This is an archive of past discussions about User:Yunshui. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.
Hi,
you proposed this article for deletion.
I have requested this page be speedily deletedunder section A7 of the Criteria for speedy deletion.
If someone is not notable, this is usually what you do. This person only had 10,000 views on a video when I searched him; I don't think that is very notable. Thank you for your assistance in new page patrol.
Thanks for letting me know. I considered a speedy, but it was such a new article I thought a PROD was a bit more... sporting, I suppose. You're right, though, a rarely viewed YouTube vid and a ton of self-created social network pages fail to grant the notability this chap wants. Yunshui (talk) 08:43, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Many thanks, I've received a biscuit, a kitten and your star in the last few days, better than the torrent of invective that sometimes happens Jimfbleak - talk to me?11:26, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks very much! There's a fair distance to go yet... I'm planning on getting it to GA level by the end of the month. CatfishJim and the soapdish14:04, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Well, if there's anything I can do to help, let me know - I have a considerable stash of reference books on the martial arts at home, which I'm happy to delve into should you need anything sourcing. Would be nice to see another martial arts article hit GA status. Yunshui (talk) 14:07, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi! My english is not very good, so i didnt understand what you ment here:"...is given the lie by the fact that you have consistently and promptly reverted yourself in each case."Can you please explain it in other words? PS:and why you undid my revision here:[1]Alex (talk) 21:11, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Each time you have reverted User:Ilikeeatingwaffles, you have then returned the article to its previous state. For example: here[2] you revert his edits, and here[3] you revert back to his version, less than a minute later. The same pattern repeats here[4] and here[5], and here[6] and here[7]. In other words, you change the article because you "do not agree with his edits" and then change it back to the version he created. That suggests to me that you are editing purely for the purpose of harassment. I undid your revision because it continued this pattern. Yunshui (talk) 21:21, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
On these pages i reverted his edits accidentally:[8], [9], [10] so i reverted my edits less than a minute later. I turned on Twinkle for 1st time so i didnt know how to use it(but now i know). Sorry for these edits.PS:When i said "I dont agree with some of your edits" i ment other pages. Alex (talk) 21:36, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Hmm, not sure if I buy that, with the labelling of my edits as vandalism rather than just rolling them back. I should assume good faith. Unfortunately the editor does not want to comply with WP:TPO and is insistent on removing comments from Talk:FC Metalist Kharkiv. My undoing of this has lead to them behaving as if they own the page, telling me to "NEVER edit pages about ukrainian football clubs!!!". Not very civil, really. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 21:45, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
That was rather inappropriate, given the shortness of the archived page. Still, in the interests of a quiet life, I have added an archive template to the talkpage, rather than just reverting you. But please, try and avoid removing content from talkpages in future. Yunshui (talk) 13:58, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm struggling with the "folklore-weaving" and "Christianization of Europe" claims, but we're getting there. I don't know my way around our images policies very well, so I'll leave that discussion to wiser minds - looks like WP:OI may apply, though: It is not acceptable for an editor to use photo manipulation to distort the facts or position illustrated by an image. Manipulated images should be prominently noted as such.Yunshui (talk) 11:52, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
That sound you can hear is me sobbing at the prospect of my entire life devolving into an endless Sisyphean litany of citetags. Yunshui (talk) 13:02, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Nooo, but you're so good at it! Also, Firefox with the Clipple extension (multiple cut/paste buffers) is pretty good... --Lexein (talk) 13:07, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Wait, um, IE6? Please say you were joking. I've resorted to Opera, because of poor performance after a while with both Chrome and Firefox (disk thrashing). --Lexein (talk) 13:55, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks very much! Being quintessentially English, I appreciate a good cup of tea. The AfD looks to be going - well, exactly the way I told Distributor108 it would, frankly. Cheers for letting me know about it. Yunshui (talk) 22:40, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
I noticed you've just started playing with this article - I've just spent about three quarters of an hour on it, got toally fewd up with it, and was literally about to send it to AfD! I sincerely hope you can fix this one up - but I suspect that the guy's going to fail on notability in any event. Forgive me for trying it at AfD - maybe you'll have managed to polish it up enough within the week to save it :o) Pesky (talk …stalk!) 07:16, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
I was considering an AfD myself, but I fear that the APN news article constitutes a valid source for many of the claims (actually, the article itself seems to be almost entirely based on this one source). Depending on who joins the discussion, I reckon this could get through an AfD alive. Still, you've got my !vote for deletion. The APN article looks horribly like a press release, and since that's the only real source with any meat to it, I don't think this is deserving of inclusion. Yunshui (talk) 07:21, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
All I can say is "I did my best!" The film might meet the criteria for an article - but I'm cynically suspecting possible COI on this article, in any event - and it's quite likely that the news stories themselves are based mostly (or even wholly) on self-published press releases :o( Pesky (talk …stalk!) 07:32, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
While I totally agree with you (nothing outside wikipedia) that it is almost blatant and obvious, I don't think G3 applies as it 'only applies to cases where the deception is so obvious as to constitute pure vandalism'. Hhh0002 (talk) 12:36, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
I'd say creation by a since-blocked VOA of an article consisting of "this road has a pot hole" about a road which doesn't exist (and couldn't exist; A-road numerics only run to four digits) is obvious enough to constitute blatant vandalism. However, I'm not fussed; if you'd rather go down the AfD route just remove the {{db-hoax}} tag and I'll support your AfD with a Delete !vote instead. Thanks for doing the notification; I had forgotten that bit. Cheers, Yunshui (talk) 12:42, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
I agree, there is no point in continuing the afd, I think that we have established that it is a hoax considering there is nothing outside wikipedia and the user is a VOA and has no incoming links and that it appears impossible for a road number of that high to exist anyway. Hhh0002 (talk) 12:46, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Shame all your good work has just been undone (for unrelated source-based reasons; the issue didn't arise from your editing)... Yunshui (talk) 14:13, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
It's funny how you stumble onto articles that need help and are in such a deplorable state. I think now I'm paying attention to the tooth fairy and mother Teresa as well as the ISS. I've re-edited, and people are taking a look at policy and so forth, also it's current status is good article, which I doubt, but then I don't know what the criteria are for GA. It looks to me as though someone has written a book criticizing her, and then come here to transform her article into his own book review. actually, I'll go check his article now. Maybe it's a vanity page. lolz. Penyulap talk23:12, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
It is odd that you state that we are not a recognized karate style, we have competed on the national stage for many years and won a number of tournaments. The style was created in South Africa, and for many years were second only to Shotokan in numbers.
This article will be a work in progress and grow with time.
Please reconsider...I added info this morning and it appears to be removed ??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karatekzn (talk • contribs) 07:39, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Karatekzn. The issue is not whether Funakoshi Karate is a recognised style, but whether it is a notable style. I've been unable to find any sources that discuss this style of karate in any detail, beyond those produced by the organisation itself. Wikipedia only includes articles on subjects with proven notability, ie. those which have been written about elsewhere already.
Now it could be that I've been looking in the wrong place - if you can supply some references for the article that show it has been commented on or written about by people outside the organisation, then that would be great and perfectly sufficient to let the article stand. Have a read of WP:RS to get an idea of the sort of sources usually required. If you need any help citing them in the article, let me know and I'll be happy to lend a hand.
As to the removal of content this morning, that was me. The description of gradings and belt rankings was not written in an encyclopedic tone (lots of references to "our style", "our students" and other phrases that made it look like advertising copy). Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and needs to be written as such. You also removed the Category:Karate (which is useful to help interested parties find the article) and the Unsourced tag (which is not intended as a criticism of the article; it's there to encourage other editors to look for reliable sources to improve it).
Good find. This guy's Wikipedia article has been created about five times now; the one you've found seems to be optimum. Yunshui (talk) 21:16, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
The aroma of wine-request copy back via email
Hi,
I noted that my article "The aroma of wine" has been deleted recently due to the duplication issue. However, I still like to have my edited copy back. Can you send my article via email
This AfD was closed after the article author blanked the article and it was deleted per WP:CSD#G7. He has now re-created the article under a different title, so I have moved it back to the original title and re-opened the AfD. I am letting you know because you took part in it. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:24, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
You participated in the Jacobson Flare AFD, which is now restarted
You recently participated in the AFD for Jacobson Flare, which resulted in a deletion review, which got it relisted. I'm contacting everyone who didn't notice and participate in the new one already. [14]DreamFocus06:12, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Oh god, it just won't die, will it? Mind you, that's partly my fault, I suppose. Thanks for letting me know, though I'll try and abstain this time - I spent far too much of my life on it last time around... Yunshui (talk) 10:20, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Already spotted it (I watch ANI, more for sport than anything else...), but thank you for the notification nevertheless. Yunshui (talk) 14:19, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
As I've tried to explain on both your talkpages, you did not click on any "speedy delete" button - there isn't one, unless you're an admin. I placed the speedy deletion tags on your article, for the reasons given. If you do not want the article to be deleted, you will need to do the following:
Provide evidence that Buysubzi is notable. Please read WP:NOTE for an explanation of what Wikipedia considers "notable", and WP:RS for a description of the sort of evidence you would need.
Edit the article so that it focuses on the notable aspects of Buysubzi, rather than merely describing the services provided. This is considered spam, and is a common reason for deletion.
However, I have already performed a few searches and have failed to turn up any thing that would enable you to satisfy 1, above. It seems likely that Buysubzi simply is not notable enough to belong in Wikipedia. Yunshui (talk) 13:12, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Headpress
Hi, apologies if I have posted in the wrong section. You requested for an article to be deleted: Headpress. Following your comments on this matter, the article now contains references, does comply with WP:GNG and WP:ORG. Searching for sources will turn up quite a number of references to Headpress in non-affiliated sources, including recent book review, movie magazine databasethe horror-moodthe generalist. Headpress is a long running independent book publisher, established in 1990 and still operating. Netherleys 15:01, 12 October 2011 (UTC) User:WorldHeadpress15:30, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Yunshi. I previously deleted this as A7, but it has been recreated with references. While you were tagging it, I was already doing some research for more sources. The article makes some claim to notability, but as I can't read Burmese, and as Google does not support the language, I personally thingk it would be best to send ot to AfD and let the community decide. The creator has made other well referenced contributions to the encyclopedia. Thoughts? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:35, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Fair enough. I've removed the speedy tag. If it's still in progress then I'll leave it for a day or two before proposing an AfD - it just looked so similar to the previously deleted version that I assumed it was a simple drive-by recreation of a deleted article. Cheers for the info. Yunshui (talk) 10:38, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
My gratitude springs eternal... I'm going to be away from my computer for the next hour or so, but I'll see if I can whip it into shape when I get back. Yunshui雲水10:49, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
I came to the same conclusion - the lack of reliable sources meant that any cleanup attempt would be futile. I've declined the submission and informed the creator. Yunshui雲水11:50, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
You're mentioned at ANI, but don't worry — I've started a section on Interface Designer, and his targeting of you means that I've mentioned you plenty of times. You may want to know that he's left attacks against you/Yunshui/me at many talk pages, including that of Euglyco. Thanks for the help, and keep up the good work. Nyttend (talk) 13:00, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
You're welcome. I was happy to continue attempting to talk with him until I discovered his canvassing at pages such as User talk:Karatekzn, which I suppose he found because you'd recently commented there. I definitely don't go to ANI very often, since I don't want to start anything unless I have solid proof, but I couldn't really think of a better solution or any reason to dispute the proof that I'd given. By the way, I just realised that I forgot to modify the comment above, which I originally left at Andy's talk and should have changed to "you/Andy/me". Ah, well :-) Nyttend (talk) 22:12, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
Good afternoon, let me add few words in response to your strange accusations and group comments about me and some of my articles.
About the company
Before you put on the deletion it would be not bad to see what you are removing, and have a look in some original sources.
I will not enumerate all, but merely point out three things only:
Rated turn over of the company's [blacklisted URL] last year was $ 1,427 000 000.00.
It owns 4 large global banks.
It operates simultaneously on 84 international markets.
Conclusion: World Marketplace hardly needs advertising in Wikipedia.
In general, people in this system involves a friendly attitude, an optimistic approach and a lot of completely free services ( for example: all money transfers are commission free to the bank or [blacklisted url free hosting, free domain name], etc. )
Interface Designer (talk) 11:55, 29 October 2011 (UTC) Interface Designer
In principle, it can be removed, if you want to do it. I do not care about that.
Just one thing I would ask you to do: please make removement as soon as possible.
It is very desirable to look at this page now. Since the terrible inscription "This article is being considered for deletion ..." can not decorate such respectable System like Wikipedia.
It's not just my opinion. If you decide to leave this article, by adding a few lines, I think, the World will be very grateful to you.
About me
I wrote a few words about myself. Something will have to be repeated. I'm not a young boy. And Wikipedia is not for money (I have enough money, thank God), and not because I need a career (I've been once working as an editor of a prominent journal, but it's long past time ago. I do not think to move back to this stage).
In fact now I have, unlike many people, free time and I can afford to publish some of my useful life ideas. I think they can bring tangible benefits to mankind in various fields: from micro to macro space, from small to large businesses, from microbiology to medicine. This is one reason why I'm in Wikipedia.
The second reason: I'm more and more attracted by all positive, constructive and, at the same time, disinterested things. In all this lies a gigantic power. At the biggining Wikipedia was also disinterested.
General opinion
I'm just 24 days in Wikipedia. In that short time I have seen here a lot of interesting ideas and met nice people.
I can not say about everyone, but about some patrols can say this: behind the mask of an instantaneous speedy removals of articles with unselfish in words, lies hidden vandalism and as always happens in such cases: someone's serious interests, visible by the naked eye.
It's not a secret that all around and even inside Wikipedia industry is making money, but to the outside observer it looks quite good and free. If a person works for free there are only two choices: he is a complete idiot, or he has enough money to afford it.
With your permission, I can put on the Wikipedia a couple of dozen different sources as well as where you can earn money in Wikipedia and on Wikipedia with whom and how. Although I think this is not interesting, because everybody knows it. I would not want to be like those comrades who misrepresented me and my first articles in the Wikipedia, but I want them to read this lastly. User User:Andyjsmith + his administrator User:Nyttend + there fried User:Yunshui
All those who destroy, remove, and does not create, support or help people - is causing harm to himself a thousand times bigger than that which they have caused to the person offended or insulted by their destructive actions. This is an energy law. And it works everywhere 100%. The more you'll destroy the worse it will be to you on all levels, that's for sure and certain. One of your friends, by whom I was attacked User:Nyttend, is engaged in Aikido and he knows all these laws.
So he did the right thing to resolve the conflict immediately. He is a very good person I think.
An interesting point: if a man or a destroyer in your case the vandal (this is the one who destroys without thinking about the consequences and doing it without any warning) - if the vandal will learn over time to reflect negative energy attacks, destroying all his life (health, life, strength, brains, and so etc.), it is completely unknown why all negative energy somehow spreads to his relatives.
A very strange fact. A sad example: physicians surgeons. Look at them and their families. 90% of unhappy people - although they do seem quite good things. My advice: until you have at least some chance to get away from vandal way - get out and start helping people, do not try to kill them!
I'm glad you alerted me to this. I hadn't meant to delete anybody's comments, I was using the AfD closing tool so that must be the culprit. As for the result, I looked at the linked articles and sources and decided that the Foundation just about passed the GNG, although it admittedly was a close one. I'll restore the deleted text straight away. Cheers, BigDom15:43, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Fair enough, these things happen. I disagree with the decision (obviously!), but it's your call. Thanks for restoring the deleted text. Yunshui雲水18:46, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Milnrow CC
For what it is worth, I would support removing that particular category (playing in the Central Lancashire League) from WP:CRIN & have said so at the cricket project talk page. As you have indicated, there is nothing of notability in the more usual sense of the word here. I trawled for ages just to get the info that does appear, mainly to prove a point regarding lack of significant mentions etc - I think that it backfired on me! - Sitush (talk) 15:11, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Dear Yunshui, I don't know if you might want to have another look at your Afd of Arthur J. Nozik as he seems to me very highly notable. If you do a quick Google and Google scholar search one seems to find loads. Best wishes, (Msrasnw (talk) 14:46, 9 November 2011 (UTC))
Your restraint is admirable; I was an imbecile for even proposing that AfD. I don't know how I missed the substantial coverage in the news archives, but I did. I've withdrawn the nomination.
Hi, i have responded to you in my talk page. There has been a grave misunderstanding. I'm informing you just so that you don't miss it on the watchlist. Personally, i think you are the epitome of a responsible administrator! Please respond on my talk page. Joyson Noel Holla at me!05:48, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
Hello, Yunshui, and thanks for contributing to Wikipedia!
I wanted to let you know that some editors are discussing at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jennifer Lim (theatre actress) whether the article Jennifer Lim (theatre actress) should be in Wikipedia. I encourage you to comment there if you think the article should be kept in the encyclopedia.
The deletion discussion doesn't mean you did something wrong. In fact, other editors may have useful suggestions on how you can continue editing and improving Jennifer Lim (theatre actress), which I encourage you to do. If you have any questions, feel free to ask at the Help Desk.
Thank you very much for the barnstar, which really touched my heart when I was in the middle of learning more about Jennifer Lim. I've continued expanding the article and am confident it will be kept. Please feel free to comment at the AfD debate. Cullen328Let's discuss it 00:18, 21 November 2011 (U
I have a bit too much COI to weigh in on the AfD debate; not only did I create the article but I also know Jenny personally, so it would look as though I had an axe to grind. It seems to be a solid keep anyway, since there's a clearly demonstrable pass of the GNG - not least thanks to your hard work! Yunshui雲水21:18, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛TalkEmail is wishing you a MerryChristmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!
Spread the Christmas cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
Concerns about apparent party-political agenda pursued by 'brandonfarris' - these activities by him have even been reported on a Crikey blog today
Yeah, it seems apparent that this user is engaging in a deliberate and weird exercise to boost this James Campbell person (as the Crikey blog today shows, even Campbell himself was very surprised to hear what was going on) - attacking anyone who was a subject of any significant Campbell article, and attacking people and entities otherwise opposed to the Liberal Party (Australia), by way of edits, new articles etc.
The fact that some of these edits and articles are sourced, does not mean that they are neutral, reliable or unbiased in nature.
Particularly his use of material often sourced from Andrew Bolt, the Sunday Herald-Sun, and other Murdoch newspapers. These papers, and especially Bolt in particular, are well known, and recognised by most Australians, as pursuing a party-political agenda.
The intent of the claim demonising Getup as being a "Labor front", and the derogatory assumption about Getup members, is pretty clear too. Obviously the aim of 'brandonfarris' is not at all to provide honest and neutral information about Getup, his aim is to try to damage Getup's public reputation. The intent within his Wood article, for example, is equally clear - it's very clear that 'brandonfarris' is seeking to damage Graeme Wood's reputation because he has donated to a political party that 'brandonfarris' doesn't like - i.e. the Greens.
And there are many other examples of this sort of behaviour by him.
I really hope that you guys can investigate the nature of the 'sources' this person is using a little further. Also seems apparent I'm not the first person who's sought to try to do something about this guy's behaviour.
I'm short of time at present, but tomorrow I should have an opportunity to go through his edits in more detail. Mainstream newspapers with a political bias are still considered reliable, so I'm not sure that his inclusions can be discounted just because the sources are owned by *steels himself to write the evil name* Rupert Murdoch. Remember, Wikipedia's interested in verifibility, not truth (at least at the moment). From the edits I've seen, I'm also not sure there's any reason to call NPOV; the language used seems fairly neutral.
Also concerned that now this "Sven Manguard" person has accused me of being a "sockpuppet" of Brandonfarris. I've sought to leave a message on the talk page of "Sven Manguard" about this overall issue, but strangely, he has deleted it when I tried to do so.
So you know, the reason I created this account was so I could talk to you guys about this issue - I figure I wouldn't have been able to if I'd continued using Wikipedia straight from the IP address, as I was before when trying to sort out this behaviour by "Brandonfarris". And yeah, as I hope you can tell, 'Brandon' and I are certainly not the same person.
So you know, I tried to raise this issue with "Sven" on his talk page again just now, only to see him "collapse" my message and repeat this claim that somehow I am a "sock puppet". Then he "collapsed" my reply to that message. Feeling a bit aggrieved by that behaviour from him, to say the least :(
Sam 3982 (talk) 16:03, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
By the way, it seems I'm now being falsely accused, by "Brandonfarris", and someone called "Steven Zhang" of being a sock puppet for this "Garth M" person.
If you do an IP analysis, it'll show very clearly that this claim is not true. Not hard to work out my IP address either, given that all my attempts to edit were under the IP address. Not hard to work out my location from that IP address either, and to see that my IP is not connected to any sort of proxy server.
Sam 3982 (talk) 22:03, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Yunshui, please note that I've blocked Brandonfarris (talk·contribs) after looking into the matters raised in the blog post and making my own assessment of their editing pattern. My rationale for this block is on his talk page if you're interested. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 09:50, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Nick, thanks for letting me know. I've looked through Brandon's edit history as promised above, and I do see your rationale. He does show a tendency to extrapolate ideas from sources which are not in the original, although by and large I don't see a problem with the sources themselves. He certainly merited a block for edit-warring.
I'm not convinced the bias expounded upon in the Crikey blog post is as pernicious as other editors seem to think (it would help if we could establish which of the warring editors actually wrote said blog entry), and I'd personally prefer to see it corrected by the addition of other, balancing sources, rather than the wholesale removal of sourced material. However, Australian politics and journalism are a long way from my own field of knowledge, so I shall leave this to other, more expert, editors to correct. If there's a review of Brandon's block at some point in the future, I'd be interested in participating. Cheers, Yunshui雲水10:12, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments. I certainly don't endorse the conduct of the editors who took it upon themselves to 'fix' this problem (presumably in response to the blog post) and I also blocked the IP account Brandan spent most of the day edit warring with. Nick-D (talk) 10:22, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
The blocked IP is also User:Sam 3982 (above); I'd suggest notifying or temporarily blocking him as well so that he doesn't get into trouble for editing through his account and being pulled up for apparent block evasion. Yunshui雲水10:27, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Regarding Sepration of Nirankari Page From Sant Nirankari Mission
Dear Sir I am Just a normal reader with Knowlege about the Nirankari and Sant Nirankari and no technical knowledge. I dont knew how to use these symbols and all so copied the Sant nirankari pages format and filled it with the proper info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bandukia (talk • contribs) 13:56, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi Bandukai,
The problem is that the Nirankari article is completely unsourced - at present, it appears to be original research, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. Would I be right in thinking that you are contending that Nirankari is a branch of Sikhism (I notice that Sikhism is not mentioned in the Sant Nirankari Mission article)? If so, I'd suggest finding reliable sources which support this assertion, and adding them to the Sant Nirankari Mission page.
I'm beginning to come around to your way of thinking. It does appear that there are two different movements in evidence here, the Nirankari and the Neo-Nirankari (Sant Nirankari Mission). Whether these two should be dealt with in separate articles is still something to consider; I suggest letting the merger proposal run its course, and then bulking up the Nirankari article with sources if it's deemed to warrant a separate article. Yunshui雲水14:16, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
This is a new branch of medicine. I was searching for this on internet. I did not get any single article which can give all the information at a place without bias.
I thought that wikipedia a gr8 place to have this article.
Please guide me about it. -Abhijeet Safai 11:31, 16 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhijeet Safai (talk • contribs)
Should we create it under plastic surgery and later create a new article if we find it worth? - Abhijeet Safai 11:34, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
But i think that medical aesthetic is not just plastic surgery, it is more than that. -Abhijeet Safai 11:35, 16 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhijeet Safai (talk • contribs)
Hi Abhijeet. I would suggest forming this article in your userspace first (probably at User:Abhijeet Safai/Medical aesthetics) to support your contention that it's a separate branch of medicine to cosmetic medicine. Personally I don't think it is, but I've been wrong before... I would suggest you don't use www.medicalaesthetics.com as a source, though; it clearly fails WP:RS, and if that's where you get the bulk of your data from the article will probably just get deleted again when it moves to mainspace. Remember also that Wikipedia is not a dictionary - whilst the term "medical aesthetics" certainly exists, it may not merit an encyclopedia article. If I can help, let me know. Cheers Yunshui雲水11:48, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Actually, scratch that. I see you've already added some more sources (I haven't checked them yet) and expanded the article a bit; I've removed the speedy deletion tag temporarily so that you can work on it. Yunshui雲水11:51, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. I will surely try to create a more sensible article. :)-Abhijeet Safai 12:03, 16 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhijeet Safai (talk • contribs)
I am in the office now. I will go home and will expand the article after next 1.5 hour. Thanks -Abhijeet Safai 12:20, 16 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhijeet Safai (talk • contribs)
Hi. In your recent article edits, you've added some links to disambiguation pages. Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.
Pff, it's easily done. I had to double-check it myself; Arabic names often look remarkably similar to Western eyes like mine. For the record, I'm sure there must be sources out there which confirm his Sunni affiliation, we just need to track them down. I'm looking, but I've yet to find anything sufficient in English. Yunshui雲水13:36, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Barnstar of Diligence
Seems to be the appropriate one to give for years end, and having watched you doing good deeds (with half an eye, in my on-wiki-time :)). Keep it up. Happy new year. Lectonar (talk) 14:48, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
09:43, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
