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before the question. Again, welcome! Yworo (talk) 17:11, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
February 2013
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My account is representing only myself, it is not the account for a group or an organisation, neither for a website. All items that were added are corresponding to third party sources (newspaper article and TV broadcasts) Yatrides (talk) 15:09, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
Accept reason:
OK, now that we know it's really you and not someone acting on your behalf. But still, do tread carefully here. — Daniel Case (talk) 11:46, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
- I will notify the blocking administrator. m.o.p 06:30, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Yatrides Biography
[edit]Full copy that was pasted into User talk:CaroleHenson
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Dear Carole, thank you for the efforts you have made to understand my work. Elements I added some more accurately. George Yatrides. The text you have edited can satisfy the preeminent private collections. But there are also smaller Collectors whose heritage is made with my work and for this reason I will submit a few details that seem necessary and I ask you to consider. The article with these details which are in bold : Georges Yatridès (born 1931) is an artist of Greek heritageof Franco-American nationality.[1][2] His work is held in various North American private collections, and has been featured in retrospectives and art school events. Eight periods characterise his paintings: "Fauvist" (1945-1948); "Abstract" (1948-1951); "Pre-graphic" (1952-1955/1956-1962); "Fundamental Graphics" 1 and 2 (1963-71/1973-78); "His own school - Apodictic" 1972-1983; "Apodictic Synthesis Period" 1949-2009": "First Synthesis" (1945-1988); "Latter Synthesis" 1945-2011). Yatrides periods spread over 65 years Early years and personal life[edit]Georges Yatridès was born in 1931 in France. His parents were Greek. During the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire, they moved to France in 1917. His father was of Greek heritage, born in the United States, and studied in France. His paternal grandfather was a Christian Orthodox Deacon who worked as a pastor in Rock Springs, Wyoming. His great-grandfather was a Christian Orthodox Archimandrite.[3][nb 1] Over the course of his lifetime, he has lived in France and the United States.[3] Arthur Conte, who was French Minister of Culture and Communication, was later Director General of state-run French TV and then historian of the Fifth French Republic during the presidencies of Charles de Gaulle and Georges Pompidou. He wrote Yatrides biography "Yatrides, Master of Time""[6] [7] [8] [9]. Career[edit]In 1954 he exhibited paintings produced from 1945 to 1949 in Vichy. In 1956, his work was shown in Paris at Madame Chastenet de Gery's Gallerie des Voyelles.[10][11] A representative of the International Galleries of Chicago contracted to purchase Yatridès's works which were sold to private collections in Canada and the United States.[10] Numerous works (watercolors stretched on frame) were sold through the Chicago firm and in auctions rooms.[12] AskART two reports record sales of oil paintings. From 1957 to 1965, he held solo exhibitions in the United States,[11][13][14] Canada, Latin America, Switzerland, Great Britain and Greece, where his works were acquired by private collections and a museum.[15] One solo exhibit was at the Contemporary French Masters in Chicago in 1959.[13] Yatridès has been described by writer Vanessa Fize as a great contemporary painter, driven by his passion for light and science. Marc Chagall and Henri Matisse are believed by some to have been an influence on his art. His work had elements of graphic art in the 1960s. The following decade he studied in Grenoble at the Commissariat à l'énergie atomique et aux énergies alternatives (CEA) to research light and color. As his career progressed he explored use of different media and materials.[16] Yatridès made the large compositions that would characterize his art in the 1970s.[17] In 1981, he exhibited paintings inspired by the Bible in three crypts in the Sacré-Cœur in Paris.[18] Events from the 1950s include: * Drawings and Watercolors of the French School 1910-1960. 1958 Chicago USA[19]
On 12 December 1983, Yatrides work achieved a French sales record in Paris (Adjudication 800.000 French Francs (120.000 Euros) under the hammer of the auctioneer Pierre Cornette de Saint-Cyr[24][25][26][27], he donated the proceeds to Poland[28][29]where he took part in allocating the benefit. The subsequent dispatch of more than 500 tons of medical supplies, toys and fruit for children suffering from muscular dystrophy, was organised by the Lyon’s club[1], the Rotary Club[2] and Jacques Dechavanne and, through the link with art, it was accepted into communist Poland, even though the merchandise came originally from the United States[30].
Comparison to Kubrick[edit]Art critics have suggested there are similarities between the monolith in Stanley Kubrick's 1968 film 2001: A Space Odyssey and a recurring monolith motif in the artwork of Yatridès. Arthur Conte suggests that Yatridès' Adolescent and child canvas painted in 1963 has a slab similar to that of Kubrick.[32] Sacha Bourmeyster, a semiology specialist, states that the Yatridès slab communicates supernatural life in a manner similar to that in 2001.[33] Similarities between Yatridès' art and Kubrick's monolith have also been noted on CyberArchi, an on-line French architecture magazine.[34] Works[edit]Selected works of Yatridès are:
Gallery[edit]
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Response
[edit]Hello Yatrides, It was my pleasure to work on your article. It's very interesting. One thing that you may want to think about is that there are links to your website that give the readers a great deal of information about you. The good news is that interested folks are going to want to read in more detail and are likely to click on those links.
You may want to check out Talk:David Harding (finance) for use of {{edit COI|a}} that you can post on Talk:Georges Yatridès to request edits, which looks like this:
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
You don't need to paste in the entire article, just want you want to add.
Here are some comments about what you'd like to add:
- 1. Eight periods characterise his paintings: "Fauvist" (1945-1948); "Abstract" (1948-1951); "Pre-graphic" (1952-1955/1956-1962); "Fundamental Graphics" 1 and 2 (1963-71/1973-78); "His own school - Apodictic" 1972-1983; "Apodictic Synthesis Period" 1949-2009": "First Synthesis" (1945-1988); "Latter Synthesis" 1945-2011). Yatrides periods spread over 65 years
- There are a couple of problems, the biggest of which is that there is not a citation for this information, which would need to be 1) a published secondary source, 2) that could be verified.
- 2. Arthur Conte, who was French Minister of Culture and Communication, was later Director General of state-run French TV and then historian of the Fifth French Republic during the presidencies of Charles de Gaulle and Georges Pompidou. He wrote Yatrides biography "Yatrides, Master of Time""[35][36][37][38]
- Two things: That information isn't needed in the body of the article, but it could be added as a note after the information about Conte. I have found two sources that I can verify - and reworded it a bit based upon the source information. See [nb 2] in the Georges Yatridès#Comparison to Kubrick section and/or the 2nd note in Georges Yatridès#Notes. Done with modifications
- 3. In the "Events from the 1980s.." section: * Drawings and Watercolors of the French School 1910-1960. 1958 Chicago USA[39]
- This seems to be a duplicate of Georges Yatridès#Career, 2nd paragraph, last sentence (based upon the text and the citation information): One solo exhibit was at the Contemporary French Masters in Chicago in 1959.[13]
- 4. On 12 December 1983, Yatrides work achieved a French sales record in Paris (Adjudication 800.000 French Francs (120.000 Euros) under the hammer of the auctioneer Pierre Cornette de Saint-Cyr[40][41][42][43], he donated the proceeds to Poland[44][45]where he took part in allocating the benefit. The subsequent dispatch of more than 500 tons of medical supplies, toys and fruit for children suffering from muscular dystrophy, was organised by the Lyon’s club[3], the Rotary Club[4] and Jacques Dechavanne and, through the link with art, it was accepted into communist Poland, even though the merchandise came originally from the United States[46].
- The biggest problem is I cannot verify this information, except from your site, youtube and non-reliable sources. There's some WP:Peacock / non-encyclopedic language. Do you have internet links to any published sources (journal or magazine articles, etc.)? I can work with a french article, I just need to be able to see it. Then I could work on making the content more encyclopedic in nature.
- 5. Update the works materials.
- It's against guidelines to change information taken from a source, based upon original research, and without having another published source. So, it seemed better to remove the materials than have incorrect information. Done with modifications
- If you can find reliable secondary sources that I can verify, then I can provide the updates, but I cannot change information from the current cited source.
- 6. Add images.
- Done, put in order by year of work.--CaroleHenson (talk) 22:06, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
- P.S. Someone may come back and reduce the number of images in the gallery for a couple of reasons (no citations, more than needed to give a sense of the artist's work, or another reason). I just wanted to give you that "heads up" in case that happens and also to warn about attention that may come from adding more works.--CaroleHenson (talk) 22:23, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Talkback
[edit]Message added 19:05, 29 June 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
CaroleHenson (talk) 19:05, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Legal threat
[edit]Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
- It's not clear what you mean by I will act in any legal normality -- could you clarify? NE Ent 01:23, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
- Yatrides, we have a policy named No legal threats that forbids simultaneous editing Wikipedia and making legal threats against Wikipedia authors. The reason for this is that the project is run by volunteers. Some of them may afford lawyers, most of them do not. It is very difficult to do unpaid editorial work and be prepared to call your attorney over each edit. As you might imagine allowing simultaneous editing and legal proceeding would help corporations and rich people to bully their lies and half-trues through editorial process that is of course in nobody's interests. Because of this every entry that can be interpreted as a legal threat is usually met with a strong contempt by wiki authors. This edit looks like a legal threat, please do not do it again.
- I am sure you just wanted to encourage fixing inaccuracies in your article and did not want to harm anybody. Most of the editors working on the article want the same. I am sure the inaccuracies you have mentioned will be addressed soon (although Wikipedia is run by unpaid volunteers and they sometimes work slower than everybody want). If there is a really damaging error in the article please drop me (or any administrator) a note and we would blank the corresponding place immediately per policy named biographies of living people. Thanks for your help with the article and sorry for the community been slower than expected in response to your suggestions Alex Bakharev (talk) 02:18, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Please contact us
[edit]Hi Georges, if you could contact the Wikimedia Foundation via e-mail (info-en-q@wikimedia.org) one of the editors who looks after this aspect of the site will be able to work with you and if there are errors or discrepancies in content you have observed, they should be able to assist in correcting them. Kind regards, Nick (talk) 19:00, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Yatrides strong references
[edit]Attention: Alex Bakhare
Hello,
I hope that this message is completely read and that is confirmed to me.
Your comprehensive statement made on September 13, I was able now to stay the action that I had undertaken to defend my work as well as scientific pictorial. I appreciate your answer, in a situation where they were obscured and /or distorted information about my work. I ask politely, based on the quality of the references I provide, ceases unjustified manipulation.
With my 82 years of experience, I request that my biography of June 06, 2013, 2:30 p.m. before occultation can be brought back online by my assistants next week, biography completed of scanned formal irrefutable references (see below). This biography will appear on en.Wikipedia.org and fr.Wikipedia.org, with your assistance particularly to France where my Wikipedia biography was deleted by the moderator Wikipedia Carol Henson who was confronted with facts scattered by others moderators predecessors. She is the only one who has made the effort to respond clearly, however with insufficient elements of the subject.
My conciliatory spirit manifested itself in two years in the face of negative Wikipedia moderators who were not deepening. For the avoidance of procrastination, often strong sources of third punctuate my long career secondary references are now scanned text and visual images in "Authentic Yatrides." This site belongs to Gilbert Arnaud who has his own business and manages large IT companies Grenoble Rhône-Alpes largest university and industrial Centre of France, Centre of Atomic Research CEA-CENG (AEC: French Atomic Energy Commission)where I realized my own personal researches about new properties of light dissociated of non common time, all Claims Patents agreed. Gilbert Arnaud research on the size of my work serves as a reference to its customers.
What should I wear more prejudice: I am 82 years old, my time is valuable. In addition, I can not leave this life leaving behind over three hundred small Collectors whose heritage is made up of elements of my paintings, collectors disconcerted by the behavior moderators Wikipedia incredulous to the size of my career. Similarly, the preeminent private collections that have my works deserve consideration. Some of them appear in the register of the Chamber of Commerce Franco-British among them, the Honourable Lady Marriott (Maryot) Hay, Joachim Murat, Lord Glentanar, John Foster Dulles, The Honorable Mrs. Lotti Adams, Basil (Bazle) Butler British Petroleum, Tristan Jones Garrel Member British Parliament. Etc.
I refused any compromise, proposals oriented banking groups media campaigns, including films of the best filmmakers of my friends whose producers investors were not suitable for my work. All the facts stated are scanned in "Authentic Yatrides" [5] and concerning "Press articles, documents etc." their references below are detailed chronologically in [6].:
- 1954
- First exhibition Vichy France [7]
- 1956
- 2nd Paris exhibition [8]
- 1956
- Early career with Johnson Director of International Galleries and an exclusive contract. Johnson buys him more than 300 paintings from 1956 to 1972 he sells all. [9]
- 1957-1963
- Rectangles monoliths appear in Yatrides work; His research for a standard rectangle that can be reproduced by one of its elements. Geometric development and mathematical modelling in 2012, theorem resulting in protected INPI (French National Institute for intellectual property) which establishes the primacy of the specific rectangle that fits as being standard of standards[10].
- 1959
- "French Contemporary Masters" Chicago Ill. USA[11]
- Solo exhibition Chicago, International Galleries Chicago[12]
- Exhibition "Drawings and Watercolors 1900-1959" World School event[13]
- 1960
- "Watercolors 1910-1960" World School event[14]
- 1961
- Contrat exclusivité 1961-1972 G. Yatridès – S.-E. Johnson[15]
- 1963
- Gallery Juarez - Palm Beach solo exhibition[16]
- 1965
- Solo exhibition Columbus, City of historic monuments including the Capitol 1861, important city of Ohio with Cleveland and Cincinnati[17]
- 1968
- The standard rectangular monolith appears in "2001 Space Odyssey" by Stanley Kubrick[18]
- 1971
- His personal research at CEA (AEC: French Atomic Energy Commission) have accomplished in 1973 on new properties of "light dissociated time". Numerous patents claims granted all emphasize the dimension. Some elements are extrapolated into his paintings where he can draw what he did not yet able to express scientifically or can not be in fact[19].
- 1974
- Correlative Patents Washington DC Patent Office corresponding CEA culminated researches[20]
- 1975
- Magazine "Parler" summer 1975."Yatridès predecessor": Christian Gali editor-in-Chief[21]
- 1976
- His biography appears from his 45th year in the "Benezit" dictionary (1976) Gründ edition; While milestones/events below were yet to come[22].
- 1978
- "Journal de Lyon", Claude Bandieri-Yatrides[23]
- 1979
- "First Retrospective 1945-1978" La Condamine Meylan, France[24]
- "World Sephardi World Federation" proposal[25]
- "Management and Investments S.A". Switzerland Geneva SA, financial group, proposal[26]
- 1980
- Solo exhibition - "Galerie Jean Minet" Place Beauvau, Paris[27]
- Directory of "Art Internationnal" 1980-1981[28]
- 1981
- "XIth Salon Montmorency" Guest of Honor[29]
- Solo exhibition Switzerland - the Cnesseth proposal.[30]
- Preeminent private Collections[31]
- Three Crypts of the Sacred Heart (Sacré Cœur Montmartre Paris)[32] are available to work on its presentation...
- 1981
- Biography checked by inspection of the French Tax Administration, this because of the significant sums that his paintings Collectors dealt between themselves (for a drawing € 22,800 and € 2 million for oil) and the fact interbank possible opportunities thanks to his French-American dual citizenship. Agents of the Administration found that he had sold at modest prices and seen nothing. This analysis lasted eight years (1977-1985): His work is grown out with a biography recognized by a severe Administration whose duties do not include any media indulgence[33].
- 1982
- Salon Comparaisons 1982" Paris, France Two paintings GY selected[34]
- Alexandre Bourmeyster Professor University Semiologist: "Discursive study of Yatrides work"[35]
- 1983
- Arthur Conte Historian, President of the Union of Western Europe, Minister, President director general French TV Channels : "Yatrides stunning graphics the art of the great masters" in his book "1er Janvier 1983"[36]
- Christie's London 22.03.83 - Sale record £ 45.864[37]
- Lion's Club organization exceptional sale of painting for dystrophic children of Poland.[38]
- Jacques Charpentier "Prélude pour l’Ailleurs" based Yatrides "The new Scrolls" painting"[39]
- Press Items: sale record 800,000 Francs (120.000 €)[40]
- "XIIIth Salon Montmorency" Guest of Honor[41]
- "Annual Art Sales index"[42]
- 1984
- Testimony of gratitude Polish Consul for his help to children of Poland, with 40 trailers of using drugs and 5 fruit and toys, thanks to the sale of the Meridian Hotel Paris ( 800.000frs)[43] .
- Leading article of "France Presse" information worldwide consequential to the result of the sale for the Poland[44]
- "Arts Magazine" No. 702 1984 : "Salon Comparaisons"[45]
- "Demeures et Chateaux" Magazine ISSN oct 27, 1984[46]
- Second Poland travel[47]
- Metallograms, 2nd exhibition at Condamine Meylan, France[48]
- "Mayer Directory International" - sale record $ 63,400[49]
- "Jeune Chambre économique de Grenoble" - Tribute to Yatridès for his decisive help[50]
- "Aubusson tapestries" proposal[51].
- 1985
- "Tzag" Exhibition in Zurich and Wil, Switzerland[52]
- Master Francis Faure & Bernard Rey Contracting Sale painting Yatrides[53]
- Auction - Drawing: World sales record: 150,000 Francs[54]
- "Germann" Yatrides paintings important auctions - Zurich (Switzerland)[55]
- "La Gazette de l ' Hôtel Drouot" occulted voluntarily them significant sales of the works of GeorgeYatridès results[56]
- 1986
- "Chamber Commerce Franco British" 1985-86 World sales records[57]
- "Whos Who Internationnal Art" Patrick Barrer Director –letter published in tribute of GY[58]
- "Metropolitan Washington Airports" Dulles International Airport proposal[59]
- 1987
- Jean Delannoy great French film maker[60]
- Marcel Carné prominent French film maker[61]
- "Synchrotron"-site of the AEC Atomic Energy Commission project[62]
- 1988
- Who's Who in International Art 1987-1988 exceptionally devoted 16 pages to the work of Yatrides.[63]
- "XXXIIIth Salon of the Gâtinais", Montargis – France, Grand Prix[64]
- 1989
- "Commander of the "Order of the star of Europe", "Great price of Prestige European" and "Knight of the Order of Malta"[65]
- Arcole auctions Georges Yatridès - "Humanitarian Action"[66]
- "XVIIIth Salon Montmorency" Guest of honor[67]
- "Chamber Commerce Franco British" 1985-86 Yatrides world sales records[68]
- "Who's Who in International Art dictionary" standpoint of the market regarding GY work[69]
- Article in the "Dauphiné Libéré" on sales records and its major position[70]
- 1991
- "Biennial France-Canada 1987-1989-1991" - "Yatrides grand master Guest of honor"[71]
- "The Bureau of the Chamber of Discipline in Lyon- President Jean-Claude Loiseau[72]
- 1992
- Arthur Conte Minister of Information , CEO of Channels TV original French , President of the Assembly of the Western European Union (1961-1963) wrote my biography " Yatrides Master of Time" (268 pages) ISBN n° 2-9507049-0-5[73]
- 1993:
- "Grand Master Guest of Honor" and "Main Master Guest" International Biennials France-Canada and Canada-France 1987-1993[74]
- 1994
- Alexander Bourmeyster University Professor, Semiologist reputed Russian origin makes a discursive study of his work in his book "Yatrides and his century anti Picasso" 1994 (272 pages) ISBN n° 2-9507049-1-3[75]
- "Professional biography" by the French State[76]
- 1996
- Creation of an organization "Yatrides and his century" which the Bureau is composed of senior officials, who had controlled his civil and professional life, become friends.[77]
- 1997
- James Crowley physicist and Yatrides work[78]
- 1999
- "Who'sWho in International Art dictionary"[79]
- 2001
- "Cahiers du Cinéma" "2001 a space odyssey" Stanley Kubrick[80]
- "Yatrides, the Slab, the Bible and the Sphere": Alexandre Bourmeyster[81]
- 2008
- The Dictionary of Painters Edition Alzieu with 5 pages telegraphic style extremely brief history, the most significant events that have marked punctuated my life. 5 pages is 8 times more than Johan Barthold Jongking, Lattrop Duth Province 1819 died Grenoble France in 1891, a precursor of Impressionism - Pierre Bonnard 1867-1947 Frederic Eugene, André Lhote 1885-1962.[82]
- 2011
- Letter to Mr Serge Tubiana Director of the "Cinémathèque Française"[83]
- 2012
- Geometric Development and mathematical modelling, leading to the INPI protected by establishing the rule of specific rectangle he created theorem : it turns out that it is the initial geometric standard, which sets the standard of the standards.[84]
- 2013
- Creation of the trophy for the winners of the Network of Entrepreneurs Rhône-Alpes France[85]
- 2013 Compendium references to the "Authentic Yatrides" Arnaud Gilbert site videos are integral broadcasts of TV News France-Poland-Russia, official and Academic Reports which are not You Tube nor Facebook or Tweeter, nor any other kind of publicity.
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These references determine an unavoidable biography that I require, consisting of the deleted page 6 June 2013 - 14: 30, completed by the scanned information to be posted on en.wikipedia.org and fr.wikipedia.org, with your assistance particularly to Wikipedia France biography completely erased June 3, 2013 and restored only in part by the Wikipedia moderator Carol Henson directed in spite of herself by moderators predecessors.
Regards,
Georges Yatrides
20 September 2013
--Yatrides (talk) 21:41, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Second legal threat
[edit]Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Yworo (talk) 19:49, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia while the threats stand or the legal action is unresolved.
--Orange Mike | Talk 02:37, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Yatrides biography
[edit]I never practice threat. I only expressed my displeasure.
Admit that 37 months of discussions about what I experienced professionally is heavy to carry, and it is not to me a friendly behavior. I realized that the friendly tone that I used did not bring me anything. This is how my dialogue has evolved mentioning bluntly hundreds of references, including 5 dictionaries including Who's Who in International Art with 16 pages dedicated to my work, all speak highly of my work.
I do not ask as much: enough is the Dictionary of Painters, Sculptors and Engravers Alzieu Edition establishes four pages very concise on my work, the events it has determined, that is enough.
I think it is right and proper to ask you to consider the contents of this dictionary and calmly require its use. At the beginning of my relationship with Wikipedia I was 79 old, I am now over 82 years, it is fair to remember that time left to me to live is short, so clearly I finally wish to be heard and understood. This is said without threat or intimidation. Thus I request not to be blocked.
Sincerely,
--Yatrides (talk) 16:56, 4 October 2013 (UTC) (In French if my english language is unsufficient):
Je ne pratique jamais de menace. J’exprime seulement mon mécontentement. Avouez que 37 mois de discussions concernant ce que j’ai vécu professionnellement est lourd à porter et cela ne représente pas à mes yeux un comportement amical. J’ai réalisé que le ton cordial que j’utilisais ne m’apportait rien, bien au contraire. C’est ainsi que mon dialogue a évolué en mentionnant brutalement des centaines de références, notamment aux 5 dictionnaires dont le Who’s Who in International Art avec 16 pages qui sont dédiées à mon œuvre, tous disent beaucoup de bien de mon travail. Je n’en réclame pas autant : est suffisant le Dictionnaire des Peintres, Sculpteurs et Graveurs Edition Alzieu qui édite 4 pages très concises sur mon œuvre, les événements qu’elle a déterminés; cela me suffit.
Je pense que c’est juste et correct de vous demander calmement d’en considérer le contenu de ce dictionnaire et de requérir qu’il soit utilisé. Au début de mes relations avec Wikipedia j'avais 79 ans, j'ai aujourd'hui plus de 82 ans; il est juste de rappeler que le temps qui me reste à vivre m’est compté, pour cette raison, clairement je souhaite enfin être entendu et compris. Ceci est dit sans menace, ni intimidation . C'est ainsi que je requiers n'être pas bloqué.
Cordialement,
Georges Yatridès. --Yatrides (talk) 16:56, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Yatrides (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I never practice threat. I only expressed my displeasure. Yatrides (talk) 16:56, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Not an unblock request; and implying the intent to take legal action, which you certainly did, is not allowed on Wikipedia. Nor is self-promotion. --jpgordon::==( o ) 17:51, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
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Yatrides.
- You have an ego the size of the solar system and the conflict of interest from that makes you an unsuitable editor with respect to your own article. You do not seem to be able to approach or discuss it in a reasonable way, but rather are always making long insistent posts on the talk page as if you are somehow entitled to dictate the content of your own article. You aren't. That's not collegial discussion, it's bullying. I for one say you should stay blocked.
- (Vous avez un ego de la taille du système solaire et le conflit d'intérêts que vous un éditeur inadapté à l'égard de votre propre article fait. Vous ne semblez pas être en mesure d'approcher ou de discuter d'une manière raisonnable, mais faites toujours de longs messages insistants sur la page de discussion comme si vous êtes en quelque sorte le droit de dicter le contenu de votre article. Vous n'êtes pas. Ce n'est pas la discussion collégiale, c'est l'intimidation. Pour ma part je dis que vous devriez rester bloqué.) Yworo (talk) 17:10, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
Likely an imposter
[edit]I do not think that this editor is actually Yatrides. A genuine artist would not behave in such a shameful fashion. A genuine artist would not brag about the greatness of his work. A genuine artist would not be proud of the cost of his works. A genuine artist would allow his works to speak for themselves instead of demanding that others praise them. A genuine artist would take the trouble to have his comminuiques translated into intelligible text instead of gibberish. See [86].
(Je ne pense pas que cet éditeur est effectivement Yatrides. Un véritable artiste ne se comporteraient pas de manière honteuse. Un véritable artiste ne serait pas vanter la grandeur de son œuvre. Un véritable artiste ne serait pas fier du coût de ses œuvres. Un véritable artiste permettrait à ses œuvres de parler pour eux-mêmes au lieu d'exiger que d'autres les louanges. Un véritable artiste prendrait la peine d'avoir son comminuiques traduit en texte intelligible au lieu de charabia. Voir [87].
EEng (talk) 13:53, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Unblocked request
[edit]Yatrides (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
J'ai été bloqué car après plus de 3 ans de discussion avec des modérateurs, je me suis plains que ma page soit encore une fois remaniée. Certainement j'ai eu tort de manifester une impatience menaçante et je le regrettes. Rendant compte que personne n'est convaincu, et finalement ne correspond pas au codes de Wikipedia, ma volonté est de ne plus le faire à nouveau - I was blocked because after more than three years of discussion with the moderators, I was sorry that my page is again altered. Certainly I was wrong to show a threatening forward and I regret it. Realizing that no one is convinced, and finally does not match the codes of Wikipedia, my intention is not to do it again Yatrides (talk) 16:31, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I am not comfortable with unblocking you at this time. It seems that you become extremely agitated at any change to the article about you. I don't think you understand that Wikipedia is a neutral encyclopedia, not a platform for you to put out the image you wish to present to the world. If a newspaper was writing an article about you, would you expect them to just sit back and let you write it, or would you expect them to do their job properly? The same applies here. I don't think you should be unblocked unless you agree to stay away fromt the article about you since you do not seem to be able to overcome the conflict of interest issues there. As that seems to be your only purpose on Wikipedia I see little hope of this account being unblocked without a clear, specific commitment to curb these problems. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:26, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
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YATRIDES
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Request reason:
I agree to no longer work on my biography in order not to create conflict. Thank you for your adviceYatrides (talk) 17:40, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Since in nearly a week you have not responded to my request for clarification, I am declining this unblock request to take it out of the queue, and prevent administrators wasting time coming here to assess the request, only to see it is not ready to be closed. Feel free to post another unblock request if and when you are ready to answer my question. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:42, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
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I agree to no longer work on my biography in order not to create conflict. Thank you for your advice --Yatrides (talk) 17:40, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
- If unblocked, what do you intend to do on Wikipedia? Max Semenik (talk) 19:40, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
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Thank you for answering me so quickly. If I am unblocked, I would suggest, for example, a press element not yet listed and let the moderators decide the objectivity of my proposal, without trying to convince with long arguments.
--Yatrides (talk) 13:51, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
- On the basis of what you have said in your latest unblock request, I would be prepared to unblock you, if it weren't for the fact that your comment about "a press element not yet listed and let the moderators decide the objectivity of my proposal" is very unclear, and casts doubt on what you said in the unblock request. Can you clarify what you mean by that? Unfortunately, it is by no means clear to me that it doesn't mean that you intend to continue to try to impose your preferred version on the article about you, albeit by different means from those you used before. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:29, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
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Attention: James B. Watson
I would not try to impose either a different version. Only moderators will have the decision.
Without intervening nor affecting the texts edited in Wikipedia (which I 've never done, I had only talk/develop arguments conform to publications concerning my work). From now on I would let check out what is described in various books concerning my work, what is already cited by Wikipedia, which chronologically Benezit Dictionary of Painters and sculptors (Librairie Gründ , 1976) in my 45 years – the Who'sWho In International Art (16 pages text and reproductions of my works, Lausanne Switzerland, 1987) in my 56 years – the Dictionary of painters and sculptors which traces my career (Deshairs - Wantellet, Alzieu Editions , 2008) to my 77years and other biographical works – including that of Arthur Conte President of the Assembly of the Western Europe ( 1961) are also available to the public through the official International Library of the City of Grenoble, a major university town and advanced scientific research, notably CEA Atomic Energy Commission which also I realized personal research . I talked far awkwardly, not knowing the rules of Wikipedia. Since 2012, I decided to act without the advices of the Organization that bears my name (Yatrides and his century); its Office consists of Senior Officials today benevolent. So, my sole clumsiness with Wikipedia, which I deeply regret, caused reactions that have not complied with the last years of my life that deserve regards.
To confirm my word I repeat that I would not "try to impose" either a different version or anything else on the article about me. Only moderators will have the decision.
--Yatrides (talk) 17:18, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
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- ^ "Trybuna Robotnicza" July 28-29, 1984
- ^ "Est Republicain" December 14 1983
- ^ 1983: Yatrides and Poland French TV, Channel 2 broadcast, on 12 December evening. Gwyneth Vidler-Dulles, sister-in-law of John Foster Dulles US Secretary of State, bought the painting entitled "The New Scrolls" (Les nouveaux Rouleaux) for 800,000 French Francs. This sum was donated to Poland and represented 500 tons of medicines, clothes, toys and fruits, amounting to 40 truckloads.
- ^ Journal Officiel de la République Française. 18 January 1996.
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(help) - ^ Conte, Arthur (1992). Yatrides, Maitre du temps. Espace et Lumières. p. 170. ISBN 2-9507049-0-5.
- ^ Bourmeyster, Sacha (1994). Georges Yatrides et son siècle, l'anti picasso. Editions Espace et Lumières. p. 230. ISBN 2-9507049-1-3.
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- ^ Le Parisien Saturday 22-Sunday 23 May 1993
- ^ Le Progrès, Lyon 1er December 1983
- ^ Le Républicain Lorrain, Numero Special "L’été du Livre" 1st to 3 June 1993 in Moselle (France) and 04 to 06 June 1993 at Metz (France), article title: "We are living nostalgic times - Yatrides master of time" Signed: Gérard Oestreicher
- ^ Dauphiné Libéré 26 November 1992, title of the article "Yatrides ant-Picasso"
- ^ Remarkable exhibition of contemporary 18 French Masters including Braque, Goerg, Leger, Picasso, Villon, Yatrides Art Lettres et Spectacles magazine 1-7 April 1959
- ^ "Lion's Club" N°331 November 1983
- ^ France soir Magazine10 december 1983 N° 12.230
- ^ "Les affiches de Grenoble et du Dauphine". "Une oeuvre pour le noel polonais" article de Rose Mary Boe
- ^ Agence France Press, Informations Mondiale, titre: Pologne-Aide- FRA00002 4 0132/AFP-FS92, signé GR/GC AFP AP 130204 DEC 83 "Un tableau de Georges Yatrides vendu 800.000 Frs, cette somme représente 500 tonnes de produits divers, (médicaments, vêtements etc...) acheminés en Pologne pour le Noël des enfants".
- ^ "Trybuna Robotnicza" July 28-29, 1984
- ^ "Est Republicain" December 14 1983
- ^ 1983: Yatrides and Poland French TV, Channel 2 broadcast, on 12 December evening. Gwyneth Vidler-Dulles, sister-in-law of John Foster Dulles US Secretary of State, bought the painting entitled "The New Scrolls" (Les nouveaux Rouleaux) for 800,000 French Francs. This sum was donated to Poland and represented 500 tons of medicines, clothes, toys and fruits, amounting to 40 truckloads.
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