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The Bugle: Issue CXXIX, January 2017

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Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion

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Sockpuppets

I was surprised that you took this approach in respect of recent contributions to the BE article. I disagree with pretty much everything they say, but their language, editing style and approach to discussion are very different. If they are socks then I don't think it is of each other. And if they were (typical) trolls I don't think they would be engaging in the way that they are or investing time in researching/writing draft text. For now I think we have to assume good faith and help them to understand neutrality, weighting and synthesis - these aren't necessarily easy things to pick up - and they do at least appear to be trying to discuss. Wiki-Ed (talk) 12:26, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

I have strong suspicions that QPH is a sock puppet. Its a bit much that his first post was a lengthy FA critique. I took this for a second opinion before taking it to SPI and both concurred my suspicions were reasonable. WCMemail 12:49, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for this Wiki-Ed.--Quality posts here (talk) 00:17, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Two years ago ...
Falkland Islands
... you were recipient
no. 1086 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:40, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXX, February 2017

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FYI you were mentioned at ANI. I say this just for routine notification. If you're inclined to reply, the talk/usertalk page would probably be a better idea, as the ANI thread will likely be closed shortly. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 03:28, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXI, March 2017

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXII, April 2017

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXIII, May 2017

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Prince George of Hesse-Darmstadt

Hi, i appreciate that you removed my comment on Prince George of Hesse-Darmstadt because you believe that the content added was only tangentially related to the topic. I can say that i believe the information is valuable as it actually names the Anglo/Dutch Marines that captured Gibraltar in 1704; names and information otherwise very hard to find. An article that i wrote that is in three parts and printed in the Gibraltar Heritage Journal - 'The Garrison of Gibraltar I, 1704-1793, issue 14; 'The Garrison of Gibraltar II, 1794-171870, issue 16; 'The Garrison of Gibraltar III, 1871-1945, issue 17; these are articles based on Infantry Regiments that were stationed in Gibraltar since 1704. The information of the Marines is in part I. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cal325pe (talkcontribs) 17:28, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

With respect, what you believe is immaterial, the subject is Prince George of Hesse-Darmstadt and someone reading that article is looking for information on the primary topic. You wouldn't go to that article looking for material on the regiments stationed in Gibraltar. WCMemail 07:33, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Advice

Regarding this edit, no you are not "required by policy to post a warning for 3RR", in fact the relevant advice is here: "A warning is not required, but if the user appears unaware that edit warring is prohibited, they can be told about this policy by posting a uw-3rr template message on their user talk page." In this case you know full well that Asilah is aware since you've already posted such warnings on his talk page twice in the past (diff and diff.) So continuing to do so is just poking the bear, especially when they've asked you to stop posting there. I know from personal experience that this user can be frustrating to deal with, but I also know that using the article talk page isn't a total waste of time. If that fails and they refuse to engage constructively you can simply use the last resort of reporting them if they continue to edit war as they can hardly claim ignorance. Valenciano (talk) 21:09, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

A polite notification is good practice, not least as it can remind editors that they're getting onto thin ice (I've come to my senses after such warnings on a few occasions). Reports at WP:AN3 seek evidence that the editor being reported had been warned, though obviously the responding admin has discretion over whether a lack of warning prior to a report is a problem. WCM's warning here - which was very short and too the point - seems OK to me and certainly doesn't justify abuse such as [1]. It perhaps should have been posted on the article's talk page (along with a ping to ensure that the editor was notified) to reduce the sensitivities. Nick-D (talk) 22:35, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
Nick-D sure, but posting a warning 2 hours and 40 minutes after you've already posted the ***same warning*** and been asked not to post there is not going to achieve anything positive. If the talk page isn't doing the job and warnings have already been given and ignored, further repeated warnings shouldn't be the next step, including citing the personal attacks such as "psychopath", which are actionable in their own right as blatant personal attacks, 3RR or not. Valenciano (talk) 23:07, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
I missed that: two warnings were not necessary. Nick-D (talk) 23:30, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
When did I do two warnings? If I did that was a mistake on my part unless you're referring to the reply to his comment on my talk page? I have repeatedly tried to engage with this editor on talk Valenciano, as have others but I've yet to see anything constructive come out of it. It seems to me and others he is deliberately being obnoxious to drive people away. I have limited time to dedicate to editing and I'm really fed up with the constant personal abuse from this editor and his constant POV edit warring. WCMemail 13:27, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXIV, June 2017

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXV, July 2017

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RfA

Thanks for supporting my run for administrator. I am honored and grateful. ) Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:47, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Inactive user 20171

Hi. I saw your case at ANI. I confess I'm sceptical. This, this and this look like the work of a rabid Catalan nationalist, while "Inactive user" was rabidly anti-Catalan. Also, this edit on a talk page changed the signature of "Inactive user" to hide his former username, but stated the old username in the edit summary! That's not like him either. Scolaire (talk) 11:43, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm certain that I'm right, the editing of his user page was a dead give away. The editing of the Catalan pages is a crude attempt at diversion. WCMemail 07:33, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Plus as soon as the ANI incident was raised he went quiet, that's classic for this editor. WCMemail 07:36, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Actually, he continued editing for hours after you went to ANI, including editing your talk page archives. His last edit was at 21:31 (UTC) on 16 July 2017, just before the rangeblock. But if you're convinced, I'll say nothing more. Scolaire (talk) 11:23, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi, agree with Scolaire, just saw you pinged me on notice board. Had a look at this, not same editor as topic-banned inactive account. Seems like that random IP address editor has been problematic since long before the editor you suspect was topic-banned. Oh and thanks for your support. Gaditano23 (talk) 12:56, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Oh, he has been problematic, hasn't he? And here and here are "Inactive user" reverting him back in March. Even in the talk page section where he altered the username you can see how much they are not the same: Can someone please take this to ANI? This individual is either trolling or is deranged. Inactive user 20171. Scolaire (talk) 07:35, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
We could take this back to ANI but the range block has effectively stopped the disruption. I have other reasons to believe I'm correct that I'm reluctant to suggest. I will send an email to an admin familiar with this user later. WCMemail 09:54, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Photoshopped documents

Hey, since you said you could provide photoshopped documents and misleading POV used in the es-wp, I would like to see that. Please send me an email. Best regards, --Jojhnjoy (talk) 09:45, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Accidental rollback

Hi

I was idly surfing, followed some links, ended up here, and just noticed this: "I've also noticed a tendency when editing on my tablet to occasionally hit Rollback by accident."

You could consider adding:

.mw-rollback-link {display:none !important;}

to your personal css. I did that ages ago, and I've never missed it. Twinkle lets you do that kind of thing just as easily, in a friendly way, with edit summaries, so, for me, the "rollback" link is just an accident waiting to happen.

Apologies if you already knew about that solution. -- Begoon 11:45, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXVI, August 2017

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXVII, September 2017

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXVIII, October 2017

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HMS Sheffield

To echo your own sentiment, it is not appropriate to revert without leaving a civil note. Or preferably a Talk Page discussion. Valetude (talk) 13:03, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

WP:BRD - I left a perfectly civil edit summary, more than adequate to explain my reason. If you wish to contest it please initiate a talk page discussion. WCMemail 13:46, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
All I saw was 'Undid revision 806347642 by Valetude (talk) rv per WP:NPOV'. Did I miss something? Valetude (talk) 22:16, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
As I said, the proper place for any discussion on content is the article talk page. WCMemail 09:54, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXIX, November 2017

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The Bugle: Issue CXL, December 2017

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Precious three years!

Precious
Three years!

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The Bugle: Issue CXLI, January 2018

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British Empire

Hi Wee!

I have just noticed your last edit on British Empire. Although it is absolutely true that this phrase was relatively used to describe the British Empire DURING the late 19th and early 20th centuries, it was originally coined for the Spanish Empire. It could be mentioned at some point in the article (not in the introduction) only if it acknowlodges that it took said phrase following the decline of the Spanish Empire. The fact that this phrase was ALSO used to describe 1880-1920 BE does not make it worthy of including in the introduction in such way. It could mislead readers into thinking it was "the phrase of the British Empire" and discredit the original usage of the term which, after all, was first introduced by a Spaniard, Fray Francisco de Ugalde.

Regards,
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--CreiterAdam45z (talk) 14:25, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Sorry but I happen to disagree, it seems bizarre to me that you'd want to remove it. It's such a well known phrase and your reasoning seems specious to me. WCMemail 17:58, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLII, February 2018

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The Bugle: Issue CXLIII, March 2018

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The Bugle: Issue CXLIIV, April 2018

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The Bugle: Issue CXLIV, May 2018

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The Bugle: Issue CXLVI, June 2018

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British Overseas Territories Act 2002

Beware of 3RR on that page. I've warned the user for that and for PAs, but be careful you don't get caught in an edit war with them. - BilCat (talk) 22:35, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, did I miss something I only reverted twice a number of days apart. WCMemail 10:58, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
This wasn't a warning, merely a friendly note that I was watching the other user's actions. Sorry if it came across as more. - BilCat (talk) 14:57, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLVII, July 2018

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British logistics in the Falklands War

Since y\our're interested in the Falklands War, you might consider having a look at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/British logistics in the Falklands War/archive1 at FAC. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:53, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLVIII, August 2018

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The Bugle: Issue CXLIX, September 2018

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The Bugle: Issue CL, October 2018

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The Bugle: Issue CLI, November 2018

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The Bugle: Issue CLII, December 2018

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The Bugle: Issue CLIII, January 2019

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Precious anniversary

Precious
Four years!

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