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Feedback request: Music Good Article nomination

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Welcome to the drive!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome Voorts! I'm glad that you are joining the November 2024 drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.

Fix a random page lacking sources

Cielquiparle (talk) 13:25, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2024 November newsletter

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The 2024 WikiCup has come to an end, with the final round being a very tight race. Our new champion is AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who scored 2,283 points mainly through 3 high-multiplier FAs and 3 GAs on military history topics. By a 1% margin, Airship beat out last year's champion, Delaware BeanieFan11 (submissions), who scored second with 2,264 points, mainly from an impressive 58 GAs about athletes. In third place, Generalissima (submissions) scored 1,528 points, primarily from two FAs on U.S. Librarians of Congress and 20 GAs about various historical topics. Our other finalists are: Sammi Brie (submissions) with 879 points, Canada Hey man im josh (submissions) with 533 points, BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 432 points, Arconning (submissions) with 244 points, and Christmas Island AryKun (submissions) with 15 points. Congratulations to our finalists and all who participated!

The final round was very productive, and contestants had 7 FAs, 9 FLs, 94 GAs, 73 FAC reviews, and 79 GAN reviews and peer reviews. Altogether, Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors all through the contest. Well done everyone!

All those who reached the final will receive awards and the following special awards will be made, based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, these prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round, or in the event of a tie, to the overall leader in this field.

Next year's competition will begin on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors, and we hope to see you all in the 2025 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement!

If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – November 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2024).

Administrator changes

readded
removed

CheckUser changes

removed Maxim

Oversighter changes

removed Maxim

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • Mass deletions done with the Nuke tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. T366068

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

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Feedback request: Social sciences and society Good Article nomination

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The Signpost: 6 November 2024

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Successful RFA

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As you might have figured, your RFA was successful. Welcome to the team, and please feel free to reach out to me or another admin if you have any questions. Primefac (talk) 21:08, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

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Congratulations on your successful RfA! May the kitten support you in future mop-related endeavours, I'm sure you'll do amazing! :)

MolecularPilot 05:36, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"He who does not keep peace shall lose his hand."

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The axe of responsibility
Shiny new tools might be used to mete out justice, mercy or a dose of reality. Let us commit to not losing our cool when using them. Our only armor is the entire community's trust. We wear it for each other, each new contributor, and each new generation to come. May you ever be the community's champion.
BusterD (talk) 13:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RFA

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Thank you for your successful RfA! Kolano123 (talk) 13:38, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I thanked you because I know that being an admin can be hard and I don't bite new admins. Kolano123 (talk) 13:42, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"I kind of alternate between conducting and playing... but I don't use a baton" - Joshua Bell

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The new admin baton
Congratulations on passing RFA! Peaceray passed the fabled baton to me and, and having given it a twirl or two (or three, actually I've taken my time a bit), I am passing it on to you! Once you are done appreciating its magnificence, do pass it to the next admin. Happy mopping!

Yours, FOARP (talk) 11:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations!

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Congratulations on the successful RfA my friend. It was an honour to nominate you, and I look forward to seeing all the good that you'll continue to do. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:08, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for nominating me and advising me throughout the process. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations. I know vandalism isn't the highest level of admin work but your answer is what made my vote simple. I hope your work is light and your decisions are easy. Good luck.
RCSCott91 (talk) 09:27, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


  • Your new garb! Hope this fits and congratulations. When you get bored of scrabbling down the back of the sofa for the right blockmessage, have a look at my monobook - some kind soul put a nifty script there. ϢereSpielChequers 21:44, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My congratulations as well. Cheers - Tim O'Doherty (talk) 21:58, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats! HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm here to add to the pile! Well done, voorts, and good luck with the rest of your time here as an administrator. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well done, and welcome to the mop corps! Please feel free to write to me if I can help in any way - as I often say to candidates, the learning curve remained steep for a long time. Vanamonde93 (talk) 00:45, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats! Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 11:06, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you all (and those who posted below)! voorts (talk/contributions) 17:37, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats! May Wikipedia grow even better with your presence! owuh (talk | she/her) 17:40, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About your merger proposals

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Hey there, I am currently working on updating and clearing up the chaos backlog at WP:PM, and I have noticed eight proposals by you about song articles that could be merged into their parent album articles. Since it has been two months, it does not look like the WikiProjects pinged are going to engage with the discussions (or any editor of these articles apparently for that matter). As you are the sole support as nominator, and the creator of the articles opposes, I think the merge discussions should be closed as "No consensus" ; however I did not want to mass close all your nominations before asking you if you thought something else should be done. Oh, and since I am there, congrats for the successful RFA! Choucas Bleu (T·C) 21:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the congrats. Do whatever with the proposed merges. The keep rationale is not based on the notability guideline and none of the sources provide SIGCOV. It's annoying that one obstinate editor can filibuster a very clear-cut case for merge, but here we are. voorts (talk/contributions) 15:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

November 22 + 26: Free Culture Friday and Wikicurious photo event!

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November 22: Free Culture Friday

You are invited to Foundation and Friends' Free Culture Friday at Prime Produce on Friday, November 22. This event will feature a reception with Wikimedia Foundation staff in the afternoon, followed by a more informal salon and game night, utilizing Prime Produce's vast collection of board games. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!

  • Friday, November 22, 2024
    1:30 pm – 7:00 pm
    Prime Produce, 424 W 54th St
November 26: Wikicurious: Capturing the Moment
Jefferson Market Library

You are also invited to Wikicurious: Capturing the Moment, the third event of the beginner-focused Wikicurious series, at Jefferson Market Library on Tuesday, November 26, in collaboration with WikiPortraits and AfroCROWD. All are welcome to attend, especially those interested in photography or contributing to Wikimedia Commons. We will explore the art of capturing the moment through photography and learn the basics of Wikimedia Commons, and (weather-permitting) we are also planning a photo walk, so bring your camera (or use your smartphone)!

  • Tuesday, November 26, 2024
    3:00 pm – 8:00 pm
    Jefferson Market Library, 425 6th Ave
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Thank you for participating in the October 2024 GAN backlog drive

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The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
Your noteworthy contribution (10 points total) helped reduce the backlog by more than 250 articles! Here's a token of our appreciation. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 16:32, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA nominator and reviewer indeffed

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And TPA was revoked, and UTRS appeal declined. Tamara (given name) is heading for a second quickfail. The article has been unstable. I don't like that this article should fail twice. It's just a weird and unfortunate scenario. Could something be done about that? Unnominate at least? Substitute submitter? Talk:Technical geography/GA1 was undergoing a review. Do you have any thoughts on what should happen with that review? Regards, —Alalch E. 20:48, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Alalch, I would raise this at WT:GAN to see if another reviewer wants to take on the latter and if there's consensus to remove the nom for Tamara. Best, voorts (talk/contributions) 21:36, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Admin's Barnstar
Thank you for dedicating your time to reviewing the sources and offering valuable insights in this content dispute. Hogo-2020 (talk) 10:56, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My pleasure. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TFA

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story · music · places

Thank you for Costello's, introduced: "Costello's was a watering hole for journalists, writers, and cartoonists on the east side of Midtown Manhattan. Ernest Hemingway reportedly broke a cane over John O'Hara's head on a bet; the bar's owner responded by displaying the broken cane over the bar. I wish I could have dropped in for a whiskey there."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seconding this praise for capturing a beautiful piece of NYC history! ViridianPenguin 🐧 ( 💬 ) 14:04, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats on the TFA! Nice to see another NYC topic as today's featured article. (Also congrats on your recent RFA! Nice to see another NYC admin.) – Epicgenius (talk) 14:17, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you all! It's sad that these kinds of gin joints have all but disappeared from New York City, replaced by post-modern-looking fast casual eateries and anodyne unlimited brunch spots. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: Politics, government, and law request for comment

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Feedback request: Politics, government, and law request for comment

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Question about ANI closure

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Voorts, the A/E discussion you linked-[1] did not mention Simonms once. The AN/ANI thread (I moved to ANI on my volition after realizing that it may not have been the best platform) was specifically about Simoms conduct on my t/p and the article t/p, where he was repeatedly and objectively fabricating Wikipedia policy, in addition to straw manning my arguments. It was only after GhostofDanGurney responded and derailed the conversation to A/E, did I feel compelled to point to his own record at A/E, and Ghost made false claims against me stating that I forced Simonms to go the article t/p. I felt that Ghost's post there was a clear case of tag teaming as evidenced by here-[2].

In any case, since there is objective and repeated fabricating of Wikipedia policy from Simonm (which I'd say is pretty severe), do I have no recourse? Am I supposed to just tolerate someone making stuff upon the fly and expecting me to abide by it? I'm genuinely curious. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 17:40, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a content dispute, not a conduct issue. You disagree with Ghost and Simon's readings of policy. That's fine; editors are allowed to disagree. Editors are not allowed, however, to file conduct claims at AN/I, AE, etc. when they have such a disagreement. Generally, you should remain civil, AGF, and attempt to resolve your disputes. I think the best path forward here would be seeking a neutral mediator. @GhostOfDanGurney and @Simonm223: would you be open to dispute resolution at WP:DRN? voorts (talk/contributions) 17:46, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mean I came into this issue as a neutral editor but, yeah, sure, I suppose we might as well try. Simonm223 (talk) 17:53, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm willing to participate in any DR. However, I'm genuinely bewildered that someone is allowed to repeatedly and confidently make claims on how to approach WP:PUBLICFIGURE without any evidence or content on the related page backing their statements, and face zero repercussions. Not only that, but then demanding that other editors abide by non-existent claims on Wikipedia policy pages and insulting them when they ask for evidence. Like I genuinely cannot believe this is real life.
Voorts, I'm sincerely asking that you look at the ANI report, and only focus on what was said before GhostofDanGurney came in.Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 18:01, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm genuinely bewildered that someone is allowed to repeatedly and confidently make claims on how to approach WP:PUBLICFIGURE without any evidence or content on the related page backing their statements, and face zero repercussions. Simon and Ghost have explained their reading of PUBLICFIGURE. You might disagree with it, but that doesn't mean they didn't give a reason. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:04, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:PUBLICFIGURE makes zero mention of whether or not a person can become a public figure through criminal activity which has or hasn't secured a conviction, as Simonm was repeatedly stating it does. It just states that a public figure will have numerous reliable sources reporting on/documenting them. Calling that a reading or interpretation is a enormous stretch, I'd say. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 18:16, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Southasianhistorian8: I'm not here to relitigate this dispute with you and I'm not going to take any administrative action here. Either take this to dispute resolution or step away from this article. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:18, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll take this to DRN. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 18:19, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: Politics, government, and law request for comment

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2024 New Way Cargo Airlines Ilyushin Il-76 shootdown (3rd nomination)

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Hello, Voorts,

A closer can't come up with an original ATD that hasn't been mentioned in the AFD discussion and I don't see that a Redirect had been suggested. I might have missed a comment but all I saw when I reviewed it were Deletes and Keeps. I learned about this the hard way when my closure was brought to Wikipedia:Deletion review which is generally not a pleasant experience for an AFD closer. If there isn't a consensus, it's better to relist a discussion rather than come up with your own resolution. Liz Read! Talk! 05:21, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll relist it. I thought there was a rough consensus to delete, but redirecting was plausible as an ATD. I thought that kind of close was within closer discretion, but good to know that it's not. voorts (talk/contributions) 05:42, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for being so receptive to criticism. Having had some unpleasant past experiences at Deletion review (where I was discussed, not the AFD closure), I'm trying to get admins and NAC closers from making questionable closures that might be challenged there. And, it took a while, but I eventually learned that some discussions just have no consensus, no matter how many times they are relisted. Ironically, these are sometimes the closures that are contested but you have to come to some decision as an AFD closer and you can't please everyone. Liz Read! Talk! 04:10, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 18 November 2024

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