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March 2021

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Proposed deletion of Cherukurasamu

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Panchadharakalasa moved to draftspace

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Peddarasamu moved to draftspace

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Amphitheatre

Hi Voglam. I checked the google search results for the mooted amphitheatre, and ended up removing your edit. One of the main difficulties is the definition of "amphitheatre", which in all scholarly sources refers to a doubled up semicircle of embanked seating, surrounding a central performance area; this offers maximum visibility and acoustic clarity from virtually any seat. However, your example is more like a straight section of a stadium or track (as in, for example, the straight sections of the ancient Circus Maximus). So although the local newspapers and magazine reports use the term "amphitheatre", that seems to be the default term, used incorrectly but in good faith. The structure would seem to have very little in common with a true amphitheatre; to be perfectly honest, I don't know what I'd call it. One of the reasons for avoiding the use of press reports in Wikipedia articles is that the popular press likes to give its readers definite answers, and will cherry-pick the vague opinions and guesses offered them at news releases and press conferences.

The other problem, assuming the structure was qualified for the name of "amphitheatre", would be "under what section of the article does it belong?" And unfortunately, no such section exists: the main reason for that might be that no straight-sided structures are defined as amphitheatres. Not a very scholarly reason, but who knows what the building was used for? Haploidavey (talk) 05:57, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Panchadharakalasa

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October 2021

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Concern regarding Draft:Peddarasamu

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Your draft article, Draft:Panchadharakalasa

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:45, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Peddarasamu

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March 2022

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April 2022

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Can you please do that for me. I will follow it next time by seeing your example. Thanks Voglam (talk) 20:46, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

August 2022

Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to Bharat Ratna. Your edits could be interpreted as vandalism and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use your sandbox. Thank you. - Arjayay (talk) 20:52, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Kindly please do not misjudge and be so harsh in your writing. It was just a sincere mistake. I assumed that the new state's name should go as many articles are doing the same, but I understand now. You can write in English more politely. Voglam (talk) 04:33, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They are standard warning templates, as used throughout Wikipedia, approved for use in such circumstances.
Please stop trying to force Telangana into articles for tenuous reasons. Thank you - Arjayay (talk) 08:18, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

September 2022

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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, as you did at Telugu cuisine, you may be blocked from editing. — DaxServer (t · m · c) 17:21, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sir, I have provided references and here is another one https://www.india.com/travel/articles/8-indian-chillies-you-must-know-about-3241064/ refer to Guntur Chilli

https://elthecook.com/blogs/learn-about-our-ingredients/know-your-spices-guntur-chillies

Thanks for your concern. Voglam (talk) 17:28, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia needs reliable sources. The above sources are blogs. India.com is not a reliable source. See WP:RS — DaxServer (t · m · c) 18:06, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, i will try to find more references. Thanks Voglam (talk) 18:15, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I just changed the occurrences of Andhra Pradesh to AP (Telangana) as there were mixed occurrences of Telangana and Andhra previously. Voglam (talk) 17:58, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please use edit summaries without which others do not know what your intentions are. I've corrected some links — DaxServer (t · m · c) 18:49, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Hyderabadi biryani, you may be blocked from editing. This level of detail is inappropriate for an infobox in the first instance. I strongly suggest that you ask the editors at WP:TEAHOUSE for a further opinion. Julietdeltalima (talk) 21:54, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly be polite and civilized, don't threaten. I have added with reference. Nizams did not just rule Hyderabad city, they ruled the Hyderabad State. Voglam (talk) 00:05, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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April 2024

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That info (Her mother's family is from Ippanapadu near Tapeswaram in East Godavari district, Andhra Pradesh.) that I entered was obtained from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4SeCRkGOMQ Alitho Saradaga | 4th February 2019 | Rohini (Actress) | ETV Telugu, which was a direct in person interview of her. I will not re-enter it but wanted to reply to you with this clarification. Thank you. Voglam (talk) 09:47, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Singers from Vijayawada, India has been nominated for merging

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September 2024

Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Kuladevata, you may be blocked from editing. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:27, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just asking from ignorance, can you add the reference, by making sure, team work, rather than removing it. Thanks Voglam (talk) 09:39, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Asking again from lack of knowledge, why did you not object or undo the revisions made by users who wrote the Tamil Nadu and other state sections which also do not have any reference? Voglam (talk) 09:43, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Voglam: WP:BURDEN - The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution.

You are free to remove unsourced content from the article, but don't add more unsourced content thinking that someone else will find the references for you. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 12:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

3RR advisory

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Thanks for the advise Fred. Voglam (talk) 16:26, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User has reverted in the middle of our discussion, while we have yet to reach a consensus. Please advise. Padfather (talk) 18:32, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]