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Happy editing! Java Hurricane 13:28, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you JavaHurricane! Ubaleht (talk) 22:10, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Siberian Ingrian Finnish has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Siberian Ingrian Finnish. Thanks! InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 15:54, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comment for article Draft:Siberian Ingrian Finnish! What changes should be made to the text so that the article reads like an encyclopedia article? When I wrote the article, I adhered to strict writing criteria, all facts are confirmed by links. Maybe there are specific mistakes in the article, stylistic problems, or do you have suggestions that need to be taken into account in the article? Thank you! Ubaleht (talk) 19:23, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have addressed your concerns on my user talk page. I was not pinged/mentioned by your reply so I had no idea this existed. Next time {{ping}} people or put a {{talkback}} template on the user talk page of the other person so that they are alerted. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 06:30, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@InterstellarGamer12321 thanks for the answer! I'm sorry I didn't make a ping! Ubaleht (talk) 18:33, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Siberian Ingrian Finnish (July 7)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Tutwakhamoe was:

This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner.

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The two history sections are too detailed and should be simplified.

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Tutwakhamoe (talk) 01:56, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Siberian Ingrian Finnish has been accepted

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Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 14:25, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Siberian Ingrian Finnish

Hello! Your submission of Siberian Ingrian Finnish at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Soman (talk) 21:40, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Soman ! Thank you for your review!

About you comment!

"Hook seems to miss a verb." - What verb is missing? Please help with this.
"But mainly the article lacks outline when/how the language actually emerged" - The ancestors of the speakers of this language, when they lived in Igria (Lower Luga area), spoke several close dialects of Ingrian and Ingrian Finnish of the villages Vanakülä, Malaya Arsiya, Bolshaya Arsiya, Volkovo, Mertvitsa, Fedorovka, Variva (see article). After migration to Siberia from these dialects they developed their own mutually intelligible language in Siberia. I will add this phrase to the article with a link to the source.
"Could we have an ALT hook?" - What does ALT hook mean? Maybe alternative hook?

Ubaleht (talk) 08:15, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ubaleht. First of all, again a superinteresting piece. Apologies for the jargon, yes 'ALT hook' means alternative hook. But if you add the phrase "After migration to Siberia from these dialects they developed..." your hook should be fine. Regarding the verb, I added a proposal for rephrasing on the grammar. --Soman (talk) 13:16, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Soman !

That this language was formed in Siberia, I added a phrase to the article "Here, Siberian Ingrian Finnish as a language of communication was formed based on the Ingrian Finnish and Ingrian dialects of the villages of the lower reaches of the Luga River among migrants in the first decades of the 19th century.[8]" and proof from the source: https://iling.spb.ru/theses/1999 page 17 Quote from source: "Вторую большую общность финнов в Сибири составляли потомки ингерманландских переселенцев. Они также были лютеранами в конфессиональном отношении, но по происхождению теснее всего были связаны с финнами и ижорами из деревень в нижнем течении р. Луги. В качестве языка внутригруппового общения они, тем не менее, продолжали использовать идиом, сформировавшийся в первые десятилетия после переселения в Сибирь на базе нижнелужских ижорских и финских говоров района р. Россонь." My translation: "The second largest community of Finns in Siberia were the descendants of Ingrian settlers. They were also Lutherans in confessional terms, but by origin they were most closely related with the Finns and Izhorians from the villages in the lower reaches of the Luga River. As a language of intra-group communication, they, however, continued to use the variety (langeage/dialect, In Russian: 'идиом') that was formed in the first decades after the resettlement to Siberia on the basis of the Lower Luga Ingrian (Izhorian) and Finnish dialects of the region of the Rosona River."
Yes of course you can add ALT hook!
Taking into account your phrase "After migration to Siberia from these dialects they developed...", will this hook "...that several dozen families deported to Siberia from these dialects developed a new language and spread across two thousand kilometers (1,200 mi) from the swamps of Western Siberia to the Yenisey River in Eastern Siberia" be correct? I would be very grateful if you could correct the grammar, English is not my native language!

Ubaleht (talk) 20:12, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Siberian Ingrian Finnish

On 2 November 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Siberian Ingrian Finnish, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that several dozen families who were deported to Siberia, spread across two thousand kilometers (1,200 mi) from the swamps of Western Siberia to the rivers of Eastern Siberia, created a new language? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Siberian Ingrian Finnish. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Siberian Ingrian Finnish), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:02, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Theleekycauldron !

Maybe you know why this hook "... that several dozen families who were deported to Siberia, spread across two thousand kilometers (1,200 mi) from the swamps of Western Siberia to the rivers of Eastern Siberia, created a new language?" disappeared in DYK archive? see: Wikipedia:Recent additions It should be in the section on November 3rd. This hook was on the main page of Wikipedia and received 12 356 views. Now there are no traces of this hook in the DYK archive. Now Wikipedia readers who have found Siberian Ingrian Finnish article through hook will not be able to find it if they do not remember the exact title of the article. Therefore, this hook needs to be returned to the DYK archive.
I added links instead of "citation needed" as per your requirements in Siberian Ingrian Finnish.

Ubaleht (talk) 21:02, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there, Ubaleht! When you receive a ping on WP:ERRORS, that means the hook is live on the Main Page and something needs to be fixed as soon as possible to avoid the hook being pulled from the Main Page. Since it seems you were fairly inactive during the hook's period live, I had to pull the hook close to the end of the run, meaning it was not present in the set when it was archived. Hope this helps :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 17:51, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Theleekycauldron ! I'm a new member of Wikipedia, I didn't know I had to react so quickly. Sorry! The error was minor. Ubaleht (talk) 13:07, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Finno-Ugric peoples

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