User talk:Tongcdo

Speedy deletion of User:Tongcdo/sandbox

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The page User:Tongcdo/sandbox has been deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. As the page met any of these strictly-defined criteria, it was deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been deleted are:

It seemed to be unambiguous advertising which only promoted a company, product, group, service, person, or point of view and would need to have been fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
It appeared to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free Web hosting service. (See section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion.)

Please do not recreate the material without addressing these concerns, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you think this page should not have been deleted for this reason, or you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Spencer^T•C 02:28, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Tongcdo. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{request edit}} template);
disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Spencer^T•C 02:29, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tongcdo, what is your relationship with Saphyte by Loyica? Spencer^T•C 19:36, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Spencer, I am an employee of Saphyte and was tasked to set up the company's page for Wikipedia. As it is considered the first homegrown CRM in the UAE, the company believes that this feat is noteworthy. Multiple news companies have also taken notice of this. Tongcdo (talk) 10:51, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the above information about those editing with a conflict of interest, such as yourself. Please follow those instructions to disclose this paid editing disclosure on your userpage. Next, please review Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Specifically review this section, and provide some sources below that meet those criteria. Best, Spencer^T•C 05:12, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Tongcdo/sandbox

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A tag has been placed on User:Tongcdo/sandbox, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Kleuske (talk) 14:04, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Really want our page to be published, in accordance to guidelines.

Hi is there a way for us to get someone from Wikipedia to create an article for our company? Tongcdo (talk) 13:55, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Who is "us"? Wikipedia accounts are single-person-only. You can certainly try WP:Requested articles, but the chances of the cration happaning are pretty close to zero. Generally, the chances are higher when you start by collecting the sources for WP:NCORP and ask for review at the Teahouse. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First, you need to declare your interest with regard to the company - this is part of the terms of use of this website if you are editing for pay (for example as part of your job). See WP:PAID and WP:COI for more on this. Once you have made the declaration, it is permitted for you to work on a draft article (the page should have 'Draft:' in front of its title, so it does not go into mainspace, like this: Draft:ExampleArticleTitle). You can then work on the draft, ensuring that you keep the prose neutral and you support the content with reference to independent, reliable secondary sources (not the company website or social media profiles, not press releases, etc) - see WP:NCORP for more on this, and also WP:FIRST for general guidance about writing an article. Finally, once you think it's ready, you can submit it to WP:AfC for an uninvolved experienced editor to review. Best GirthSummit _(blether) 14:15, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will try not to belabour the points already mentioned. However, since you said that you were tasked with creating an article for your employer, I should emphasize that it was wrong for your superior(s) to have asked you to do this, at all. They probably believed that the company is entitled to have a Wikipedia article just because it exists. This is not correct.

Wikipedia is selective about the topics it includes, and calls this concept "notability". A topic is notable by Wikipedia's definition if it has gained sufficiently significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time. We consider evidence taken from reliable and independent sources to gauge this attention. In the case of companies and organizations, WP:NCORP is the minimum standard it must meet to be worthy of inclusion. Basically, we have no interest in what a company wants to say about itself. We need to see that the company has already received significant coverage from multiple third party sources - who have no vested interest in the company - to be considered worthy of inclusion.

Primary sources like the company's own website can be used to provide basic facts and figures, but in itself cannot prove notability. Self-published sources like press releases, social media and other company-authored materials are invalid sources as they lack the required independence. They are also often written with a promotional intent, which isn't permitted here. We've often heard the argument of "it's not promotion, it's information" but if the motive is self-serving, our response is that yes, it is promotion.

I'm sorry that this was not a more positive message, and I'm sorry that you were put in a very difficult position. Help:Your first article will help you understand the article creation process, and Wikipedia:Articles for creation is the best way to start a draft article for uninvolved editors to review and provide feedback. Also please provide the required paid editing declaration on your user page. Good luck. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 05:56, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]