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Mondex Corp page

Hello Toadette,

You reviewed my submission on Mondex Corp, the art restitution firm, and I'm wondering whether you can help me get to publishing the page. Here is what you noted:

"only two sources contribute to notability, and the rest does not discusses the subject in detail to pass NCORP"

A couple questions for you – do i not need two to contribute to notability? Does not the company's key role in various very notable cases qualify it for notability?

If you can help me further, I would greatly appreciate it.


Rechts EditorRechts (talk) 23:25, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

@EditorRechts, Good evening. I took a quick review of the draft. Yes, I declined it five months ago as not meeting notability guidelines (company specific to be precise). The guideline states that the article should have multiple reliable sources. AFAIK, at the time of reviewing, I only saw 2 potential sources, while the rest are simply mentions. Because I expected the article to be nominated for deletion had it been accepted, I declined it. Note that the company notability guidelines are stricter than the general notability guidelines. It is recommended to have at least three sources.
I am willing to help, but due to other work, I couldn't at the moment. ToadetteEdit (talk) 19:34, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you so much for getting back. Okay, let me ask:
  1. I have referred to multiple reliable third party sources – why are you saying there are only two?
  2. what is the difference between a source and a mention?
  3. As to notability – I am involving myself in the field of restitution and they are one of the two or three most significant firms or organisations active in this contested field. Do I need three sources to state such?
EditorRechts (talk) 19:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
In the draft Draft:Mondex Corporation, I initially saw that there were two: Mondex to return valuable Dutch paintings to Holocaust survivor’s descendants and "Mondex Corporation et Mélina Wolman accompagnent les héritiers de David Cender, dans le processus historique de restitution de l'œuvre de Marc Chagall intitulée Le Père, spoliée pendant la Seconde Guerre mondiale par les Nazis - LE MONDE DU DROIT : le magazine des professions juridiques". These sources are reliable and independent and discuss the subject in detail. A difference between a source and a mention is that the sources reference the subject once or twice without anything significant. As for your third question, you can cite these, given that these sources are valid enough to establish notability. ToadetteEdit (talk) 16:35, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you so much.
If I understand you correctly, you are saying there are only two articles from reliable third party sources that mention Mondex' specific work in detail, and you cite the two (The Globe and Mail article, Le Monde Du Droit Article). There are other sources included in the draft article that are reliable and independent press publications that explicitly mention Mondex' work and describe it as critical to the case. Here are two examples (there are more but I only include the two to get straight to the point):
  1. Ben-David, Daniel. "The miraculous story of the Chagall that was lost and found and lost again". www.thejc.com. Retrieved 2024-02-02.
  2. Abrams, Amah-Rose (2016-06-13). "Nahmad Denies His Modigliani is Nazi Loot". Artnet News. Retrieved 2024-02-02.
On point three – notability: publications like ArtNet, the leading publication on art world news, states in multiple articles that Mondex' work is critical to one of the largest restitution cases currently underway. Another element is the crucial changes to the restitution law in the Netherlands: the handling and outcome of the Kandinsky case, which was Mondex' case, was central to the change in a national law. This would not have happened without Mondex. That is why I stated, in the opening paragraph:
"its practices have led to changes in restitution law and practices in various countries."
I also backed up that claim with the Monde Du Droit article.
I feel I am getting closer – if you are able to help in any way, please let me know. EditorRechts (talk) 18:48, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Ndimyvette (14:47, 24 September 2024)

hi, I would like to know if wikipedia accepts sources from all copyrights reserved. I saw in other people who wrote their information on wikipedia all copyrights reserved. --Ndimyvette (talk) 14:47, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

@Ndimyvette, welcome to Wikipedia. Wikipedia accepts copyrighted sources as references, but close phrasing is not allowed per the copyright policy. ToadetteEdit (talk) 15:07, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

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Don't understand reliable sources

Hi Toadette,

Please could we discuss the reliable sources I need for my article?

Perhaps if I explain the history, you would understand my issues.

Thanks! AMumFriend. AMumFriend (talk) 12:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

@AMumFriend, which article are you referring to? ToadetteEdit (talk) 16:27, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources
I don't get how the ones I used aren't reliable:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gas_Emergency_Service_(UK)#cite_note-1
Thanks AMumFriend (talk) 18:58, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
@AMumFriend, all the sources don't mention the subject or only have brief mentions. I suggest finding sources that are reliable and independent to fulfill the general notability guidelines. ToadetteEdit (talk) 08:50, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Regraab on Ida Van Smith (01:25, 30 September 2024)

I simply added a more exact fact about Ida's teaching career as I worked with her for several years. --Regraab (talk) 01:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@Regraab, I recommend declaring a conflict of interest on your user page. ToadetteEdit (talk) 09:07, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

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How to improve Draft:Olaf Deutschmann

Hello

You reviewed my Draft:Olaf Deutschmann. Could you guide me on how to improve it. I have discussed it with members on the Live Help channel, and they suggested it was best to contact you directly. Thank you for your time !

@Trialpedian

~~~~ Trialpedian (talk) 16:13, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Trialpedian! You can improve by searching for sources that are reliable, and independent (the subject should not be the author of a cited reference). I hope that helps! ToadetteEdit (talk) 18:56, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
The previous rejections of the draft were for a similar reason. Before submitting this draft I tried to include all quality references, and after some discussions with other members, I believed the current references were acceptable. All are from official websites of reputed organisations. Is there any specific references which are not up to the mark ? I could try to find alternatives or maybe remove that portion from the article. Thanks ! Trialpedian (talk) 14:51, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
I do not know , but if you think that the draft is up to par, you can resubmit it again. ToadetteEdit (talk) 08:40, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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how do i enter snadbox --Aaaaahsoscaryd (talk) 00:19, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Already asked and answered at Wikipedia:Help_desk#how_do_i_enter_sandbox. -- Hoary (talk) 00:28, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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Hi, I submitted a new page with new information. I would like to know when is it going to be visible on google? Why it is not visible on google? How long is it going to take to be visible on google? Thank you for replying me. I am looking forward for your feedback and thoughts, Stay safe and healthy, Sandra --Ndimyvette (talk) 17:06, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

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Combien de temps fait-il à wikipédia pour me laisser publier mon article en ligne --Thimaelprefnah (talk) 19:07, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

@Thimaelprefnah, welcome! You can simply use the Article wizard to publish a draft, where you can write the article. Once you are done, click the submit button; it takes up to 8 weeks at a minimum. Alternatively, I suspect your mother tongue is French, so the French Wikipedia is a better choice to start your article at. ToadetteEdit (talk) 06:49, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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Mondex Corp

Dear Toadette,

I understand you are busy – I am tryung to restart out conversation. From last review, the issue was notability. I had shown you more than three pieces in the article that attested to the company's notability. Can I ask whether this will allow you to move it forward to the next phase of review?

Thank you in advance for your consideration,

E Rechts EditorRechts (talk) 15:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

@EditorRechts, sorry for the late response. I've been busy elsewhere. You can click the blue button to submit the draft for review. If you find it is enough for the topic to be notable, do so. ToadetteEdit (talk) 10:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

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Can I inquire which sources you found to provide notability here? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:47, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

@AirshipJungleman29, given the abundance of reliable sources, it can be assumed that the topic can be reliable. ToadetteEdit (talk) 03:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
That doesn't answer the question... ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:19, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
[1][2][3] are some of the sources that relate to the term and are highly reputable sources. If you think the article is not quite notable, an AfD may be reasonable. ToadetteEdit (talk) 10:09, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

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