User talk:Th78blue

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I am kind of obsessed with the en dash (–). I find the following key to be a useful guide regarding proper use of the various dashes, hyphens, and minus signs. Each object aesthetically appears to look similar, but serves a different function:

The hyphen (-), is used to join multiple words that function together as a single concept, also referred to as a compound word.

The en dash (–) or "N dash", is named after the fact that it is approximately as wide as the capitalized letter "N", and is used to represent the words “to” or “through” when specifying a range.

The em dash (—) or "M dash", is named after the fact that it is approximately as wide as the capitalized letter "M, is the longest and most versatile dash. It is used to act as a more emphatic comma, semicolon, or colon.

The minus sign (−) or "negative sign", is the symbol used to show a negative value. This is not the same—though very close in appearance to—the en dash (–). Seen side-by-side: en dash first followed by the minus sign (– −), the minus sign is slightly higher than the en dash.

Source: https://www.wix.com/wordsmatter/blog/2020/07/hyphen-vs-dashes/

More on the en dash (–) and minus sign (−)...because they are so similar...

To indicate a range of numbers, such as inclusive values, dates, or pages, use the en dash (–) Example: 2015–2017

Instead use a minus sign in instances such as the following example Example: 12 − 3 = 9

Use a minus sign to indicate negative numbers. Example: −79

Use an en dash (–) instead of a hyphen in a compound modifier when:

One element of the modifier is an open compound. Examples Windows 10–compatible products dialog box–type options

Two or more of the elements are made up of hyphenated compounds (a rare occurrence).

Don’t use an en dash to indicate an empty cell in a table.

Don’t use spaces on either side of an en dash.

Exception Surround an en dash with spaces when it's used as a minus sign in an equation or in a time stamp appearing in UI. Examples 12 – 3 = 9 2:15 PM 12/1/16 ‒ 4:45 PM 4/1/16.

In text, don’t use an en dash in a range of times. Use to instead: 10:00 AM to 2:00 PM. In a schedule or listing, use an en dash with no spaces around it: 10:00 AM–2:00 PM.

Exception In a date range that includes two times and two dates, add spaces around the en dash. Examples 2:15 AM‒4:45 PM 4/1/16 (time range on a single day) 2:15 PM 12/1/17 ‒ 4:45 PM 4/1/18 (range includes both time and date)

Source: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/style-guide/punctuation/dashes-hyphens/enes

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September 2022

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:20, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Th78blue (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

To Whom It May Concern, let the record show that I do not have multiple accounts. I would not even begin to have the time for one thing. I generally make dozens to hundreds of edits per day, nearly 95–99% of which are on basic and tedious changes including fixing hyphens, en dashes, and em dashes where one has been mistakenly misused in place of another, and working "Notable people" lists on various towns and cities. I also work on fixing date formatting where birth and death date formats are often poorly laid out on lesser known biographical articles and the like. Occasionally, I may wander over to more sensitive subjects as a matter of personal interest, but I do try to always at least remain civil, and do my best to help other editors that I think are doing solid work and that demonstrate they are here "...helping to build the encyclopedia." I also enjoy being a part of the TypoTeam, correcting for basic typos, I would not have the time to even start or manage another account! While I have noted some other editors work—you come to learn of other editors work after making nearly 40,000 edits after all—including the alleged sock/meat puppet Pulpfiction621, and I have sent them WikiLove such as cookies, strawberries and the like, as well as many other editors I am sure, any "puppetry" ends there. Lastly, as a user in good standing, I have never abused my permissions including Rollback, New page reviewer, or Pending changes reviewer, and I fully hope to continue to demonstrate my "un-sockness" to the community at large. Please unblock me, you will not regret it. ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 16:49, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

My findings concur with those of User:GeneralNotability, I'm afraid. Drmies (talk) 02:37, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Th78blue (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

As has been previously documented, I have an eye condition called retinitis pigmentosa, and so I organize things on my page for ease of viewing since it is my talk page after all. As for any other editor/s, I cannot speak for them. Regarding the "overwhelming overlap", I did some digging myself to see what kind of overlap in question might exist, and I find that between Pulpfiction162 and myself, there was around ~400 edits of overlap I believe. Wow, that sure seems like a lot I suppose, but factor in that I have made 39,464 edits to date and you are looking at less than ~1%. Is that a lot? I really do not know at that point, but seems like not a lot to me. Certainly not "overwhelming"? In addition, I also add dozens if not hundreds of images to wikimedia. This is a project that has helped me to manage stress and given me purpose in life. I like updating breakfast cereal images and adding new ones where not present, and I even spend my own money on new cereals that I may only take images of for a single bowl specifically for this purpose, probably pretty wasteful, but some have such high sugar content that I cannot risk it either for the blood sugar adverse surges. I have three boxes of new cereals lined up at present and are ready to go with the images and the edit updates immediately pending an unblock. I only edit for myself and have read the full guide to appealing blocks, I think when taken on the whole, my edits are unquestionably a net positive for this fine project, and singularly unconnected to any other account. I believe these and other reasons to be sufficient, and to be good reasons, for a deeper look and a final appeal to please unblock me so I can get back to my favorite past time after a long and stressful day. Sometimes this encyclopedia induces some stress of its own! As many of you more experienced editors may agree, but as you will likely also agree, it has always been worth it to me, and I value your time invested in reading my appeal application and in considering what I have contributed and fully plan to continue to contribute if ultimately unblocked. Thank you very much. ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 04:09, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Procedural decline only. This unblock request has been open for more than two weeks but has not proven sufficient for any reviewing administrator to take action. You are welcome to request a new block review if you substantially reword your request. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
the block is no longer necessary because you
1. understand what you have been blocked for,
2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
3. will make useful contributions instead.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 22:35, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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@Drmies:, what do you think? (Sorry for disturbing.) This unblock request has been up for nearly two months, and do you still agree with GeneralNotability on this sock block? It's been days and months since this happened, but I hope you brain functions well and rewind to the time when this user was blocked. ;) Sarrail (talk) 01:37, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sarrail, I hope you understand what I meant when I wrote what I wrote. There is only one way out, and that's by acknowledging that we found what we found. I don't understand this stuff about cereal boxes, it's a waste of my time, and if Th78blue wants to accomplish anything I think they know what they should do. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 01:41, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry about the time-wasting, I hope you get it back. Cheers, Sarrail (talk) 01:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is it automatically guessed that the user with more edits is the sock master (if in fact, this is a sock at all seems doubtful)? Are those the only factors involved? More edits, must be the sock master, fewer edits, the puppet? Also, would you mind explaining what you mean by this? "and if Th78blue wants to accomplish anything I think they know what they should do". Please and thank you. Riverbend21 (talk) 09:58, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes no. There are some users that have been blocked, only to go unnoticed. See WP:GOODHAND accounts. Sarrail (talk) 18:15, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering about the evidence in this case as well. Between the two editors, they've made about 50,000 edits...I don't see how they would have time to sock. I trust our Checkusers but often sockmasters are given a definite time block, not indefinite while the sockpuppets are indefinitely blocked. Does that depend on whether or not they are truthful? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:20, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That also goes along with me. Different pronouns, this account with nearly 40,000 edits...IMO, uncertainty lingers. I've known Th78blue for quite a time while reverting vandalism. I just don't understand how they were blocked. However, per Drmies' comment, we just need to leave it the way it is unless someone changes their mind. Sarrail (talk) 12:19, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Since others are weighing in here, I might as well add my piece. I have no clue what degree the technical evidence was conclusive, so I can't reasonably speak at that. Logistically, if these two accounts are the same person, that would be somewhat difficult to pull off. I found there was at least one day (28 March 2022) where both were editing at the exact same time doing two different activities ([1][2]). That certainly does not rule out meatpuppetry (nor does it entirely rule out sockpuppetry either), but I'm not seeing the purpose if it was that. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 21:56, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If a decision to unblock is being considered, it may also be prudent to note this at User talk:Pulpfiction621 (if they are indeed separate people), else PF is probably just sitting there thinking the issue has been totally forgotten. jp×g 15:03, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Pulpfiction621alerted. Riverbend21 (talk) 11:13, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Zach Weissmueller" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Zach Weissmueller and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 14#Zach Weissmueller until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:15, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Schmo moved to draftspace

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October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive

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Your draft article, Draft:Hakenkreuz

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In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

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Alex Gladstein moved to draftspace

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Speedy deletion nomination of Jeremy Kauffman

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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello Th78blue,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello Th78blue,

Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

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Your draft article, Draft:The Schmo

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Nomination of Goldback for deletion

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