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AfC notification: Draft:John Lewis Opera has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:John Lewis Opera. Thanks! AntientNestor (talk) 18:38, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:John Lewis Opera has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:John Lewis Opera. Thanks! AntientNestor (talk) 15:59, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:John Lewis Opera

(Copied from User talk:AntientNestor): I'm sorry, but I need specific help. Otherwise I shall just give up on the John Lewis article.Terry123jenkins (talk) 16:49, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Terry123jenkins:You do need help with this. My suggestion would be to save all your text in a file away from Wikipedia, then savagely prune to salient features only the draft posted here. At a manageable size it will be easier to get the piece passed. (Any reviewer can do this—in fact it may helpful at that stage if it is another reviewer.) At that point start to reinstate your saved text, bit by bit. The small additions will be assessed (and possibly corrected if necessary) by a much wider pool of editors.

--AntientNestor (talk) 17:20, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I can see no point in cutting the text and reinstating it later. If it is acceptable later, then it should be acceptable at the outset.

You have still not given me any precise information on what you consider the problems to be. If you are not willing to tell me exactly what these are, this conversation will just continue with no resolution. I have found with all the academic articles I have written that an editor will make any changes that are necessary, and then seek the author's consent. Why is this not possible here? Terry123jenkins (talk) 18:20, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are looking to get a reviewer to accept the article. I have made some suggestions. You don't have to take any notice of these in any way.--AntientNestor (talk) 20:55, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: John Lewis Opera (March 15)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Deb was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Do you have a personal connection with this topic? If so, you must declare it in accordance with Wikipedia:Conflicts of interest.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:John Lewis Opera and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Deb (talk) 08:38, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Terry123jenkins! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Deb (talk) 08:38, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:John Lewis Opera has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:John Lewis Opera. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 16:57, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: John Lewis Opera (September 21)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

The first source is closely associated with the organisation, and therefore not independent. The second is probably good, but alone not enough to establish notability. The last two, judging by the context, are most likely just passing mentions. For notability per WP:GNG, we need to see significant coverage in multiple* independent and reliable secondary sources.

'Multiple' in this case means that we need as a bare minimum one additional solid source, and preferably two or more.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:John Lewis Opera and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:13, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to make the following points about the references included in my submission. The first reference contains factual information about the early opera performances. It is an in-depth description that is not available elsewhere. The second reference is completely independent, secondary and reliable.

The last two, which I assume you have not seen, are hardly passing mentions. They are reviews of the annual performance in the U.K.'s only magazine devoted to opera. They are around the same size as reviews of professional performances (around 500 words), and were chosen as they show the change of venue and final performances. 87.112.120.122 (talk) 09:05, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 12:07, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody has commented on the alterations to the submission that I made in September 3023. I still await a verdict before I make further revisions. Terry123jenkins (talk) 10:41, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]