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regarding numbers of losses in Wikipedia article "Battle_of_Narva_(1944)"
on the talk page of the article I have put my comment as follows (judging the talks there I was not the first who called the numbers to question):
//I tried several times to edit the section on losses. Odd numbers are taken from some authors who are expressively biased against the Soviet Union (no need to talk of Mart Laar - you can take a peep at Wikipedia on him, what concerns Ian Baxter - I couldn't locate his profile on Internet at all). Why is the view on losses so one-sided? I gave references to alternative numbers:
however, there are other quite-reverse numbers in Russian-language Wiki: Soviet losses - 4685 dead or missing with 18602 wounded or sick [1][2]
but was blamed of vandalism and banned from making entries. How can one change contents of the article without the wish of the one who has created it? If a politically prejudged person creates some article in Wiki who can override his questionable ideas?
Through his numbers the author managed to made this battle one of the bloodiest battles in the whole human history! Isn't too much, especially if we refer to the Soviet more-or-less documented numbers (in 1944 all the soviet losses were yet pretty accurately recorded).//
Could you please pay attention to this, as the article could distort the objective picture of the world history? - through the numbers in the article, the battle was included in the bloodies battles of all times - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battles_by_casualties
61st Oscars
Hi there,
I wanted to ask you if you find this piece of information added by User:Korny O'Near acceptable for inclusion for the 61st Oscars. I am wondering if it sounds too gossipy or sensationalistic for a featured list.
Bowman herself has claimed that she was made to sign a gag order the next day prohibiting her from speaking to the press about her performance for the next 13 years. She finally spoke about it publicly in a 2013 interview, in which she described the performance as looking "like a gay bar mitzvah".
Hi, can you please take care of the page Counting Stars (song)? I did edited the genre with reliable source.
If User:Y2kcrazyjoker4 undo my edits with unexplained removal of a reference, just revert it back.
Y2kcrazyjoker4 says article's description doesn't mean it is folk, it says the band's attempt at it, so he/she revert to as definitely pop rock genre as usual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.171.178.189 (talk • contribs)
Hello, Some vandalist removed all mentions of FLO RIDA song for charity BOOTY ON THE FLOOR he did with Marc Mysterio. Can this edit be reverted as it was highly publicized and well sourced.
Can you please go back to a previous version of FLO RIDA page from august 2013 and re-add these well sourced info on the song and release?
Can you figure it out for the album genre? If genre is unsourced remove it. Thanks.
And take care of the page.
January 2014
66th Oscars (1994)
Hi Tbotch,
I hope you had a great Christmas season and best wishes for the new years. I do not know if you have new classes or such, but I was wondering if you could proofread 66th Academy Awards for featured list status. I would certainly appreciate the help.
this edit is exactly what you say it is in the edit. Please stop following me and making vague threats, if you have something concrete to say, please say it here and now. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:07, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Okay I didn't notice who had opened that RM, sorry for that. But I do not know what the problem is - if someone asks you 3 or 4 times and you refuse to tell them, then? In ictu oculi (talk) 00:16, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Tbhotch, I can't edit because of semi-protection, help me check if there's an unsourced genre. According to Allmusic[1] he is a pop vocalist, which means the genre is pop.
Hi Axel, sorry I undid this, the message didn't look right for where it was applied. What was the goal there? There might be a template needed there but not that one, can we find the right one? Zad6813:39, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine - move?
You have recently returned the article name to the old name (i.e. without the word (book)) and wrote:"Tbhotch moved page The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine (book) to The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine over redirect: No other article titled like this. The page still redirecting here. Use RM instead"
It is more accurate to call it "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine (book)" . Is there any reason against it? cheers Ykantor (talk) 07:06, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
This is the first time for me to encounter an editor who reply with hieroglyphs. You are not replying but rather write a collection of unrelated words. What is your problem? why can't you express yourself? Ykantor (talk) 19:32, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Tbhotch, I can't edit because of semi-protection, help me check if there's an unsourced genre in infobox. According to Allmusic[2] he is a pop vocalist, which means the genre is pop. His fellow boyband Take That is also pop.
Are you sure Tevez's full name is "Carlos Alberto Martinez Tevez"? It would make sense for that to be the case, but I've never seen a source with that fact. Any chance you could provide one? – PeeJay20:06, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
It's an unambiguous NFCC violation: reverting its inclusion is exempted under WP:EW. Please stop forcing the image in: that isn't exempt.—Kww(talk) 22:41, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Precisely: there's no question whatsoever. None. It doesn't meet any established criteria under WP:NFCC, and all you have done is interfered with an clear-cut administrative action.—Kww(talk) 22:46, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello Tbhotch,
While I have contacted an editor about this previously, I really donot know how soon I'd get a response since editor's history shows that last contribution was in 2010, that's why I decided to bring the matter to you. An article I created about this mixtape which has significant independent coverage in reliable sources was redirected by an editor while I was blocked. In the edit summary editor states that it fails WP:NALBUMS meanwhile there were references from media newspapers which I provided along with a review. Please I'd appreciate it if you can kindly look into this, I want to know what you think. Thanks. Stanleytux (talk) 23:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
He makes Lazlow strip down to his underwear, he tells strippers that "all we need is another guy", his LifeInvader page says "any hole is a goal", he spoons with Floyd(and is heavily implied to have raped him), he flirts with other men on occasion, ect., ect. All evidence points to him being bi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stigler (talk • contribs)
Can you help with this? It should redirect to the disambig page, no? The other guy says it breaks links to fix it, but I can just fix those links that are the issue. It doesn't make any sense to me to redirect Mexico Open to 'mexican open (golf)', when there are TWO Mexican Opens. Enigmamsg17:49, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
What unsourced information did I put on the page please explain? Because the only credible sources are listed in the version I reverted the page to? So again tell me the error of my edits. Have you even taken a look at the page69.120.212.166 (talk) 02:57, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
If you can not tell me the error of my edits then do not interfere. And please report it Admin intervention is highly needed. Thank you69.120.212.166 (talk) 03:00, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Someone using the IP adress 187.163.8.36 has been doing disruptive editing on several Oscar ceremony articles. Can you please tell the user to stop it or can you report it to an administrator or official? I would appreciate the help.
Good evening Tbhotch. I'm sorry but I won't search another source. You know like me I'm right but it's like this, on Wikipedia it is preferred to say that a film is US than everywhere else. It's like The Lego Movie : we all know it's a Danish franchise and it is US-AUS created but contributors on wiki don't want to admit it with the references highlighted. For the Illustionist, the movie has been directed in Czech Republic, it is written on the majority of the sites that it is US-CZ film but as always... I'm fed up to spend so much time and after all the efforts having the contribution reverted. So I will contributed on other projects. Bye Nezdek (talk) 21:29, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
I've understood. But on Allociné/Filmstarts (link 1, link 2, link 3) it is clearly written that. It is written by professionals but the fact that it is a French & German sources are not serious sources for EN wikipedian (although in FR & DE wikipedias it must be a reliable source). Sincerely Nezdek (talk) 22:04, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
TFL stats
Hi, I saw you updated the stats page this morning. I noticed the rather annoying stats for Carry On series on screen and stage for January, when the figures were not recorded properly. This suggests 4324 viewers (although this may also have had some technical issues too) cheers - SchroCat (talk) 06:53, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
2013 Oscars
Hello Tb,
Thank you for your help monitoring the Oscar ceremony lists. I've now submitted the 85th Academy Awards for featured list promotion. Would you please (if you have spare time) proofread the list so that I can make necessary changes if needed? Thank you for your help once again.
Sorry to bother, but MasonBanks keeps adding an fact that seems to be of original research and does not have any proper source explicitly say so. The fact says this:
Why is that not a relevant fact? So what if no one else explicitly recognised it, its an easy pattern to see and its an interesting piece of trivia. I don't understand the issue? MasonBanks (talk) 22:58, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
April 2014
Sockpuppet
Hello Tbhotch, there is an user continuously changing images at the Madonna articles. I remember you saying once something about a sockpuppet user who disrupts the images and creates various accounts and has to be blocked. CAn you please take a look? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ]18:22, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Also, I could use some help at Janet Jackson, an article which went to FA at a svelte 102kb six years ago, but now has fattened up to more than twice that size. An editor who is a big fan of Britney and Janet has been insisting that lots of praise remain in the article. Binksternet (talk) 20:29, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Message from 71.21.232.141
From 1 July 2012
"Furthermore, you started doing this at 21:00, Mexican time, when results were not given at all. So please, don't act as a victim. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 18:08, 2 July 2012 (UTC)"
My Response:
This was very rude about "Don't act as a victim". So, please don't interrupt me during my newbie warm-up's
Thank you.
June 2014
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Jennifer Lopez has sold 80 million records Worldwide as of 2014 and i don't think it's right you keep changing it
Hi If You actually did your research and read the articles i posted you would know that since may of 2014 Jennifer Lopez has sold 80 million record worldwide i feel that it is not right that people keep reverting my changes when i have included up to date articles from 2014 which state that she has sold 80 million records worldwide as well as a film gross of 2 billion dollars what i want to know is why do you and others keep using articles from 2011 and not 2014 you say always cite reliable sources well i can give you 3 articles which state the same thing that Jennifer Lopez has sold 80 million records for example:1.www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-jennifer-lopez-aka-20140615-story.html#page=1 article title:Jennifer Lopez on dating, her split with Marc Anthony and First Love. 2.www.forthone.com/music/news/jennifer-lopez-reveals-album-title-racy-artwork/ article title Jennifer Lopez Reveals Album title & Racy Artwork 3.www.rantlifestyle.com/20-hottest-female-musicians-in-the-world-today/ Article Title: 20 Hottest Female Musicians in The World Today (Tnays20 (talk) 17:59, 28 June 2014 (UTC)).
Precious
featured lists
Thank you, Axel, for quality lists and articles such as List of accolades received by Up and Halo, for helping hands reviewing, fighting vandalism, updating stats, creating redirects, for images and the night spent to assemble your userboxes, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian(23 November 2010)!
Despite your notice about school time, I've added you to this list as you haven't made any edits since March. If you ever come back, remove yourself from the list. Your many contributions and help to this site shall never be forgotten. SNUGGUMS (talk·contribs)15:49, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
Interesting. Logged in or out, do you plan on editing much more in the future? If you don't, I will leave a note on WP:MISS (linked above). SNUGGUMS (talk·contribs)03:02, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Understood. You might be re-added to the "missing" list in the future due to lack of account activity, though. In any case, I recommend leaving a notice such as this thread for other editors to see. SNUGGUMS (talk·contribs)03:21, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Welcome back (at least in terms of editing non-IPishly...) I had noticed that TFASTATS wasn't being updated in your absence and left a note about it, but unfortunately no-one stepped up. Thanks for doing this, and best wishes. BencherliteTalk06:53, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
I have nominated Jack Sparrow for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.Forbidden User (talk) 18:04, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Corona de lágrimas
Hola como veo que eres de México, me imagino que hablas español, o no?, bueno el asunto es que, como yo no sé hablar muy bien el inglés no entiendo como pedir una solicitud en esa página que me haz indicado, realmente puedo traducir eso; pero sigo sin entender. Ahora por qué haz pedido que se borré Corona de lágrimas (2012 telenovela), ¿Qué pasará con la información que hay en ese artículo?. Además los títulos en español deben ir en minúsculas, y el título que tenía era incorrecto, porque existe una película y la telenovela de 1965, entiendo que no debo realizar traslados de esa forma. Pero que pasará con la telenovela de 2012?.--Damián(talk)03:35, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
@Damián80: Lo que sucede es que por cuestiones de derechos de autor (copyright) no es legalmente posible hacer "copy-pastes" a los artículos. Esto se debe a que durante el lapso de su creación hasta el momento de hacer un copiado, han existido diversos autores que han editado ese artículo. Como se establece en WP:Copyrights, ni Wikimedia ni la marca Wikipedia son los autores intelectuales de los artículos (a pesar de que frecuentemente se cite a Wikipedia como la fuente), es por ello que las páginas deben de ser movidas con su historial. En este caso, quiero suponer, que intentaste mover la página pero por razones técnicas no te fue posible. Esto se debe a que una vez que alguien edita una página ("Corona de lágrimas (2012 telenovela)"), queda registrado que fue editada y, por ende, el sistema la considera como "en uso". Así se advierte que escojas otro nombre, que uses WP:RM, o contactes a un administrador, y que por favor no copies ni pegues la página en otra parte. En éste caso la página "Corona de lágrimas (2012 telenovela)" había sido editada por alguien y por ello no pudiste moverla. Lo que se debió de haber hecho era o 1) enlistar la página en Wikipedia:Rm#Uncontroversial technical requests, debido a que querías crear una página de desambiguación, o 2), solicitar que la página "Corona de lágrimas (2012 telenovela)" fuera borrada por un administrador ({{db-move}}) explicando la razón para mover la página.
Eso era lo que trataba de hacer, pero en sí ese era el problema, es que como no domino bien el idioma, no entendí como hacer esto. Con respecto al idioma, pues según esto, los títulos deben ir en minúsculas cuando se trata de otro idioma; ya antes tuve problemas por esto, sobre todo con artículos de telenovelas, hasta que se llegó al acuerdo de dejar los títulos en minúsculas y respetar la misma norma que se usa en es.wiki. Muchos usuarios no estuvieron de acuerdo con esto, pero esa regla que te he mencionado existe. Pero gracias por la ayuda :)--Damián(talk)22:44, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Bueno hasta ahora, es mejor dejarlos así, porque El Canal de las Estrellas, Telemundo entre otras cadenas más, solo producen contenido en Español, aunque prefería no tener problemas al colocar títulos en mayúsculas, ya bastante tuve en el pasado. Además no hay referencias que digan como van los títulos en español, por ejemplo, que letra van en mayúsculas o no, generalmente muchos usan mayúsculas en todos. Como este título: "Muchacha Italiana Viene A Casarse". también podría escribirse así "Muchacha Italiana Viene a Casarse", yo prefería dejarlos en minúsculas, es mejor.--Damián(talk)23:03, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Corona_de_lágrimas_(2012_telenovela)
I think I finished fixing up the copy-paste move from Corona_de_lágrimas_(2012_telenovela). Could you take a second-glance at it and make sure everything looks right? It was a little bit of a mess because the source page also got edited after the copy-paste so it required a series of deletions and restorations. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 01:15, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
You have been warned before repeatedly about personal attacks, your last one being by an admin for calling me a "fascist" for applying WP:SONGDAB to an album. Do I need to link to it? As regards this, left on my Talk page
Firstly, in answer to the question, do you actually want an answer to the question, but it has been asked and answered before and there are two answers, one short term related to allowing WP:BRD and the second related to the Thriller (album) redirect.
Secondly, in relation to wikt:paranoiac that is a personal attack. Do you understand what WP:NPA says and that it applies to you. You have been warned before about making personal attacks. You don't agree with Sweet Talker (Richard Thompson album) and Sweet Talker (Jessie J album), fine, but what gives you the right to make personal attacks on other editors. Please do not reply on my talk page. In communication with me you are free to ping me on your own Talk page or use article Talk page. Thank you. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:11, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
And please don't use edit summaries to make further personal attacks such as "he gives a fuck about readers' comprehension. That's IIO". You have to please stop making personal attacks on other editors, with or without the "fuck". In ictu oculi (talk) 04:18, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Why I'm not surprised you alter reality to your own convenience @In ictu oculi:? I didn't call you a facist, I called your attempt to censor someone a facist act, or should I remind you you were the one who tried to apply WP:BLUDGEON to User:Born2cycle at Talk:All the Best! as if it were a rule, where you said "Born2cycle, I'm afraid starting your own section smacks a little of WP:BLUDGEON ... Please hatbox this section and/or restart at a generic place for discussion of generic issues before someone responds with a giant list of WP:OTHERSTUFF", whereas WP:BLUDGEON is an essay created by one user, and WP:OTHERSTUFF is a (weak) argument for AFD-only discussions? Because, as usual in you, you are not saying it, because in your case you see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil about yourself because you know if you admit a mistake all the bullshit you've said these 3 years of dab attempts goes to waste.
Now concerning Sweet Talker (album) and You're Dead!, with your Thriller (album) defense, Thriller redirects to MJ album due to community consensus, whereas neither Sweet Talker (album) nor You're Dead! have a consensus to be redirected to these albums nor have enough relevance to be redirected there. Believe me, all you say only make you shoot in your own foot, like in Talk:Lucero (entertainer) ("Google Books own us") just keep that in mind. And yes, you've warned me about alleged "personal attacks" against you, but I'll simply say I don't give a single fuck about your warns, my patience with you reached the limit many months ago, or should I remember you I have asked many times to use an aproppiate WP:DABSTYLE, but you decided to ignore me, continue creating bad grammar dab pages, and if I tell you something about them I was "trolling" with you?--BTW, this is trolling, get the difference.--You simply don't give to readers' comprehension, or should I remind you of Despedida?
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Thanks for the RfD at Deseos etc. I note you're not very active. Just wanted to say, in case you're not sure, I know some tools assume "D" in RfD means "Deletion" but it is actually "discussion" – so quite right to take it/them there. Si Trew (talk) 17:03, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
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