Jump to content

User talk:Sun Creator/Archive 25

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Archive 20←Archive 23Archive 24Archive 25Archive 26

The Signpost: 28 October 2018

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:10, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

/Billboard (magazine) listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect /Billboard (magazine). Since you had some involvement with the /Billboard (magazine) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:07, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

ArbCom 2018 election voter message

Hello, Sun Creator. Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 3 December. All users who registered an account before Sunday, 28 October 2018, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Thursday, 1 November 2018 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2018 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 1 December 2018

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:48, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 December 2018

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:36, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:50, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Zorua and Zoroark listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Zorua and Zoroark. Since you had some involvement with the Zorua and Zoroark redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:59, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 January 2019

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:50, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 February 2019

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:16, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Turtle categories

Template:Turtle categories has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:19, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Platysternidae

Template:Platysternidae has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:41, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 March 2019

News, reports and features from the English Wikipedia's weekly journal about Wikipedia and Wikimedia

/Billboard 200 listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect /Billboard 200. Since you had some involvement with the /Billboard 200 redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:55, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

/Billboard Hot 100 listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect /Billboard Hot 100. Since you had some involvement with the /Billboard Hot 100 redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:02, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Your access to AWB may be temporarily removed

Hello Sun Creator! This message is to inform you that due to editing inactivity, your access to AutoWikiBrowser may be temporarily removed. If you do not resume editing within the next week, your username will be removed from the CheckPage. This is purely for routine maintenance and is not indicative of wrongdoing on your part. You may regain access at any time by simply requesting it at WP:PERM/AWB. Thank you! — MusikBot II talk 17:16, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 April 2019

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:37, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:Turtles

Portal:Turtles, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Turtles and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Turtles during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:54, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 May 2019

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:12, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

The June 2019 Signpost is out!

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:53, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 July 2019

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:18, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 August 2019

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:42, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

"Smallest tortoise" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Smallest tortoise. Since you had some involvement with the Smallest tortoise redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Steel1943 (talk) 22:08, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 September 2019

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Class/importance rating for turtle redirects

90% of redirects tagged for WikiProject Turtles don't have importance ratings. And 10% of redirects having importance ratings is actually quite high; very few redirects under any other project have been assigned an importance rating. I had been removing importance ratings to make things consistent with the majority of turtle redirects. Are you planning to assign importance ratings to the redirects that lack them?

Specifying "class=redirect" is unnecessary. WikiProject banner templates can detect whether a page is a redirect, and will classify it as such automatically (although this wasn't always the case). If a redirect is ever turned into an article, it will show up in the assessment table as unassessed, as long as class/importance haven't been specified. If both assessment parameters have been specified, it is much more difficult to detect when a redirect has been turned into an article. At least if the class parameter isn't specified, it is still easy to detect redirects turning into articles, and there is no longer any point to explicitly adding class=redirect rather than relying on automatic detection of redirect status. Plantdrew (talk) 22:52, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for showing interest. Ideally they would all be assessed for importance. They are other WikProjects that make use of importance, WP:SRI LANKA being one. Around 2012 all WP:TURTLE articles got assessed, so it seems few won't have an assessment now, although many will be of NA importance because at that time, if I recall correctly, an older assessment system couldn't handle importance for redirect. Of the redirects marked NA, most of them, about 1300 or so, would be Low importance. I'm unsure when if I'll get around to marking them anytime soon.
How is it possible to detect, if importance is not provided, when a redirect has been turned into an article? Do you have an example? It would be useful if that could be determined. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 10:18, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
A redirect turned into an article will show up in the assessment table as "unassessed-class", providing that it wasn't explicitly specified as redirect-class. I don't have an example at the moment.Plantdrew (talk) 17:46, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Okay, can understand how that happens. It would be a useful to identify redirects turned into an article. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 17:59, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Asian giant softshell turtle (disambiguation)

Asian giant softshell turtle (disambiguation), a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Asian giant softshell turtle (disambiguation) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Asian giant softshell turtle (disambiguation) during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Elmidae (talk · contribs) 23:08, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Galapagos Green Sea Turtle

Hi Sun,

I commented on your message on the talk page for the above page. I am of the view the two pages should be merged, though I have not done a merge proposal at present. I am wondering whether this should be done. I will in the least leave a message on the talk page for the Green sea turtle and ping sme of the recent editors to start a discussion. There is no evidence that this taxon should be recognised and hence all information on it can be subsumed into the main article on the species. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 20:13, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

My talk page comment of 2011! Merge would be good, even a redirect would be fine with me, although because of out-of-date references it's not easy to explain to others. In 2011, the IUCN redlist listed the subspecies. Thankfully that Redlist link is now dead, although searching on Redlist you can drill down and get taken to this page showing the subspecies. Another issue is Fritz checklist(2007) found here, it states page 167 "Traditionally, two subspecies are distinguished, Chelonia mydas mydas (Linnaeus, 1758), occurring in the Atlantic Ocean and in the Mediterranean, and Ch. m. agassizii (Bocourt, 1868), distributed in the Pacific and Indian Oceans." Has the Fritz checklist been updated since by any chance? Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 20:46, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
The Catalogue of Life record appears to be based on The Reptile Database as of 2015. Currently, The Reptile Database recognizes no subspecies and lists Chelonia mydas agassizii as a synonym of C. mydas (based on several references, including the Fritz checklist). Fritz just appears to be noting that subspecies have been recognized, not recommending that they be recognized.Plantdrew (talk) 21:24, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Uwe Fritz and Peter Havas do periodic brief updates, such as this one in Zootaxa here however they do not go into the depth of their previous (2007) checklist which predated the roughly bi-annual production these days of the IUCN Checklist. However, I agree, they were just noting that this arrangement had been previously proposed but in their synonymy (which for Chelonia mydas is extensive) they clearly have agassizii as a junior synonym. In recent years there have been a number of reviews of the sea turtles, including much molecular work to compliment previous studies. Nobody has proposed the resurrection of agassizzi based on any new work. The IUCN Checklist is following the works they cited as the basis of their decisions. For the most part with turtles the Reptile Database follows the IUCN Checklist only differing on a few points where they disagree, this is largely in the area where the IUCN for the sake of not having an argument offer 2 or 3 alternatives of equal standing, something I also disagree with in a checklist. But the sea turtles are not relevant to this. CoL when it comes to turtles largely follows the Reptile Database, in fact they literally import it, but they do tend to lag a little at times because of this.
Thank you for your kind words @Plantdrew: I will get to work on this. I believe in consensus as one of the foundations of Wikimedia. @Sun Creator: if @Dger: wishes to have input I welcome this. Or anyone else for that matter. I will make sure the process of merging is clear as both pages are large. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 21:56, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Cheloniology

I'm not a fan of that article (frankly I think it's superfluous), but I doubt PRODding it is a good approach. That's meant for uncontroversial deletions; you can probably depend on the author (Shui Yuena) to contest it. If they don't, it will be because they don't log in very regularly - in which case it's a little disingenuous to have a PROD go through, and they will likely have it WP:REFUNDed anyway. - Bottom line, I'd suggest taking this straight to AfD, because it's going to have to go there anyway; saves one turn around the mulberry bush. Cheers --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 13:06, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Taxonomy/Pelomedusoides

At Template:Taxonomy/Pelomedusoides, you put "superfamilia", but the source calls it a "hyperfamily". "Superfamily" caused a problem at Template:Taxonomy/Euraxemydoidea, because there was then a superfamily above a superfamily. I've put "clade" for now, because the automated taxobox system currently doesn't recognize "hyperfamilia". If there's support at the relevant WikiProject, this rank could be added to the supported list. Peter coxhead (talk) 19:04, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

@Peter coxhead: Yes, I was aware of this problem. I'm happy with using clade for now. Do you have access to the source in English? I've read the Portuguese version and thought maybe it is a translation issue as Fossilworks calls Pelomedusoides a superfamily. Anyway, it's not a displayed taxon so it won't effect any existing articles. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 19:55, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
No, I only got the information from the abstract, as far as I remember. However, if you search Google Scholar for "hyperfamily Pelomedusoides" there are over 50 hits, so it seems to be a quite well established rank for this taxon. Accordingly, I've added it to the automated taxobox system and restored the taxonomy template. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:25, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
Forgot to add that Fossilworks is inconsistent. It says that Podocnemidoidea is a subtaxon of Pelomedusoides but then also ranks Podocnemidoidea as a superfamily. So "hyperfamily" is better, as well as being supported by the 50+ sources shown up by Google Scholar. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:33, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Turtle terms

A tag has been placed on Category:Turtle terms requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 13:08, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 October 2019

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:12, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Mistake in an AWB fix

In this edit, you mistakenly changed "2009 human rights conference" to "2009-human rights conference". Fiamh (talk, contribs) 18:27, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

@Fiamh:. Thanks. Sun Creator(talk) 18:31, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Discotheque

Are you sure that changing "discotheque" to "discothèque", like you did in this edit, is a good idea? To the best of my knowledge, in English the "è" is not customary. Debresser (talk) 23:38, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Good point @Debresser:, in this case 'discothèque' is used already in the same paragraph. I've reverted my edit anyway. Sun Creator(talk) 10:41, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. And thank for pointing that previous usage out to me. Changed that one as well. Debresser (talk) 18:44, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Hongkong to Hong Kong

Hi – historically, the spelling "Hongkong" was often used, and is still often seen (e.g. Hongkong Land‎, Hongkong Post, Hongkong and Shanghai Hotels, Hongkong Electric Company. This is not a typo, it was the proper name of the event according to the cited source. Thanks, Citobun (talk) 02:00, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

@Citobun: Based on article name Hong Kong Flower Show. Is that wrong? Sun Creator(talk) 02:07, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Hmm never mind. The SCMP source wrote "Hongkong", but I did some research and found the official name in 1987 was indeed "Hong Kong Flower Show". I reverted myself. Thanks, Citobun (talk) 03:31, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Lists of turtles by location

A tag has been placed on Category:Lists of turtles by location requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 15:06, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Hyphens

Auto-ed puts hyphens ("re-named") where Americans don't. I wouldn't change them because the next auto-ed will put them back. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 17:03, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

@Keith-264: Wikipedia:AutoEd adds them? Like in 55th (West Lancashire) Infantry Division. Will it add hyphens to "reassigned" also? Sun Creator(talk) 17:14, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
@Keith-264: I enabled AutoEd on a skin without any other scripts then went to 55th (West Lancashire) Infantry Division and using AutoEd is gives no changes. Maybe you have enabled some other script? Sun Creator(talk) 17:39, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
I don't think it hyphenates all words prefixed with "re" but I'm used to seeing it. I'll try to find an example. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 18:02, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
I really like the way that your editing picks up minutiae that I overlook. Even when I copy the article into word I miss things. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 21:23, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

lang templates

Edits like this one and this one produce broken template error messages (the language code is required). In the Bottlenose skate article, Du Buit is probably an author's name in an author-date sort of reference. It would seem that your awb script needs a bit of work before you resume making edits like this.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:03, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Will go back and check for lang template. Sun Creator(talk) 16:08, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Isaac Kitrosser

Why the orphan tag on Isaac Kitrosser, which has some 40 links? Thanks.Emperostheoros2 (talk) 15:35, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

I replied on your talk page. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 22:01, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

A survey to improve the community consultation outreach process

Hello!

The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking to improve the community consultation outreach process for Foundation policies, and we are interested in why you didn't participate in a recent consultation that followed a community discussion you’ve been part of.

Please fill out this short survey to help us improve our community consultation process for the future. It should only take about three minutes.

The privacy policy for this survey is here. This survey is a one-off request from us related to this unique topic.

Thank you for your participation, Kbrown (WMF) 10:45, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Universidad

Indefinite article before a vowel is normally "an" in ordinary English. So I wondered why you removed the n at Universidad Empresarial de Costa Rica and at Pit Pony? Your examples exhibition, expert, extra and external in the list above are all wrong – those words take "an" just as expected. Would you kindly make sure you have editor consensus before making any more changes of this kind? You may also need to revisit some pages to undo other mistaken changes. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:03, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
It's all about the sound, see A and an, or https://www.grammar.com/a-vs-an-when-to-use/ or https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-STYLEMANUAL-2008/html/GPO-STYLEMANUAL-2008-7.htm While normally it's words stating with a vowel, words beginning with a vowel but without the sound don't apply, so it is 'a unicorn' ('uni' like 'You') and 'a university' Sun Creator(talk) 22:30, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

ArbCom 2019 election voter message

Hello! Voting in the 2019 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 on Monday, 2 December 2019. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2019 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:10, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Help re Kelly Blue

Sun Creator, can you help. I tried to add extra rating reference - it was munged so I deleted, and added again - it was a mess, so I bailed out. Could not fix!!!Muso805 (talk) 13:42, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

@Muso805:  Done See Special:Diff/928915638 and Kelly Blue. Sun Creator(talk) 13:53, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Please stop your bot from repeating this mistake

here. Thanks! Johnbod (talk) 02:27, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

@Johnbod: Ah, a different type of Song. Done with Special:Diff/929169451. Sun Creator(talk) 02:45, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

AWB code suggestion

Based on this edit, I think you may have a minor bug in your AWB code. I agree that 'a en suite' is wrong, but I'd expect the correction to be either 'an en suite bathroom' (a fully anglicized version) or 'a bathroom ensuite' (leaving the modifier in French). Judging from your edit history, I think you're probably intending the former. Hope this is helpful. (Also, are you…some kind of Urutora Shirīzu editor who must recharge for seven years in order to combat typos faster than any normal Science Patrol member could?) —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ 02:51, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

@JamesLucas:, thanks for the comments! Unfortunately, I manually (in AWB) changed the suggested 'an en suite' as '\an än\' sounds so awkward. As you correctly point out my edit was faulty. According to merriam-webster.com only [en suite] is English, so in an English sentence a French word would seem inappropriate, using French also doesn't resolve the requirement for an indefinite article. So with reluctance it's amended to 'an en suite', although feel free to amend if you feel otherwise. Regarding the recharge, somehow it seems like fun at present to both correct AWB's typo rules and make a dent on the 500K+ known typos on an industrial scale. Sun Creator(talk) 15:23, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
I agree that the standard English spelling and order you opted for is the reasonable default choice, but I wouldn't fault someone for using the French loanword version since there's widespread acceptance of similar deployments such as 'soup du jour or 'pie à la mode'. Thanks for the fix.
The volume of your edits awes me. I have dozens of text files each listing 10000 articles that are missing commas in certain specific contexts, and I hope to make it through one file every three years. I'll probably never achieve that rate, so I'll have to live vicariously through your xTools graphs! Cheers —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ 18:48, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
@JamesLucas:@NoAmCom: It is normally effective to:
  1. Write a specific regex for the task that can be used in the 'Find and replace' option in AWB.
  2. Use either a) a database dump with database selection or b) Some category selection process to find relevant articles.
  3. Use pre-parse mode to remove articles that don't apply. With multiple parses if applicable, with multiple AWB sessions if required (can run in the background).
What remains is then a highly targeted list of articles to manually check with AWB.
Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 21:07, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
Previously you did over 10 articles a minute. Not sure what is different now. Sun Creator(talk) 23:00, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
Thank you! I do follow the basic workflow you outlined. I think there are four major factors that have contributed to the decrease in my edit-rate since the period you cited:
  • natural grouping of like content due to alphabetical order – Certain segments of my project are dominated by edits that are easy to confirm. You cited edits from a stretch largely comprising articles on astronomical bodies punctuated at regular intervals by articles on military units of the Civil War era. Manual adjustments were needed seldomly and those instances were relatively easy to spot because they departed from the established rhythm of insertions and deletions. Generally, homogenized segments of the alphabetized list progress faster than highly varied segments.[a]
  • striving to allow fewer errors – My project started with virtually no BLPs, and when I suddenly fell into a lot of them, the quality suffered until I wrote code that addressed the new micro-contexts around the comma misuse I was encountering. The new code allows me to make more helpful edits, but it tends to require an extra second of review.
  • one runaway expression – I've had an expression among my find-and-replace terms that searches for a hyphen-minus with a space on either side of it and replaces it with an en dash. It gets a lot of hits, and while the vast majority are valid, many require additional manual editing to make things as they should be. I turned off that expression yesterday and found that the process flowed much more smoothly, so maybe I'll leave it off for the foreseeable future (or until I decide to write a more sophisticated version of it).
  • more careful review leading to more content read – Things grab my attention as I review my edits. Sometimes I end up reading a bit out of interest. More often I end up gawking at malformed formatting or certain crimes against English. This may lead to 10 seconds of head-shaking or 10 minutes of manual editing. This is an inefficiency I accept as part of my priorities as an editor, but it does occasionally balloon as I work my way through certain segments of my list.[b]
With that said, there are a few potential improvements to my workflow that I've wished I could implement, so I'll pose them to you:
  1. Is there a way to get my edit summary to automatically reflect the specific change being made if it isn't a typo correction? You may see that a lot of my edits on BLPs are removing places-of-birth from DOB parentheticals rather than adding more punctuation. I manually paste that edit summary over my default summary each and every time.
  2. Is there an easy way to ensure that my expressions ignore file names? I could write a new version of the expressions designed to weed out any such hits, but I'm not a pro at such coding and I'd probably end up increasing processing time more than necessary.
  3. Is there a way to get AWB to stop removing a single space at the end of a paragraph? Those edits drastically increase the amount of scrolling required during edit reviews, and I don't even fully agree that such spaces are something worthy of deliberate removal because a space at the end of a paragraph makes it easier to re-sequence sentences by dragging and dropping.
Thanks for being willing to share your wisdom! —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ 17:41, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

@JamesLucas:@NoAmCom:

For 1. a regex is required, the idea is to make it robust so you save time later. The following can get you started. 

Find:
(\(\s?[Bb](?:\.|orn).?\s?(\d\d?(?:st|nd|rd|th)?(\sof)?)?\s(?:[Aa](pril|ugust)|[Dd]ecember|[Ff]ebruary|[Jj](anuary|u(ne|ly))|[Mm]a(rch|y)|[Oo]ctober|[Nn]ovember|[Ss]eptember)\,?\s?(\d?\d?(?:st|nd|rd|th)?)?\,?\s(\d{4}|'\d\d))\,?\.?[^\)\(\d\<\{]{0,50}\)

Replace:
$1)

I've setup a test data page which can be used for testing.

For 2. This is about boundaries. Boundaries is a hard part of scoping a regex rule and writing Regex. By 'file names' do you mean folder names like "\myfolder\file" (Windows) and "/dev/file" (Unix), if so, you can check the character preceding the first character, either for what you don't want, a slash '/' or '\'; slashes are metacharacters, so '\\' and '\/' is required, so regex starts \b(?<!\\|\/) or you can check what you do want perhaps a space/tab/newline \b(?<=\s) If instead you mean filename.exe which is the same format as domains. Use (?![^\s\.]*\.\w) at the end. So lets say you have a replace marzo (Spanish for the month of March) with march. \b([Mm])arzo\b that would become \b(?<!\\|\/)([Mm])arzo\b(?![^\s\.]*\.\w) and then it avoids altering 'c:\folder\marzo' '/dev/marzo' and 'marzo.exe'

For 3. If I recall correctly, the space at the end of a paragraph is part of general fixes, so you could un-tick the general fixes option. Sun Creator(talk) 20:20, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks again. Responses in order:
  1. Does this address edit summaries? I have a script that does the edit, but I have to replace the edit summary manually. Sorry if I'm missing something.
  2. I'm mostly thinking of files used to add pictures to articles. If I encounter [[File:Pine-tree 2007.JPG|thumb|right|300px|A pine tree near [[Boise]], Idaho is one of the tallest in the world.]], I want to add a comma after 'Idaho' (and my current script does that just fine).[c] But if I encounter [[File:Boise, Idaho pine tree.png|thumb|right|300px|One of the tallest pine trees in the world]], I want to skip that so as not to break a link. I don't know all the forms the code can take (I'm pretty sure [[Image: is deprecated but still prevalent), but after reviewing your suggestion, I'm thinking that if simply focus on the file suffix, I could probably solve 99% of the cases. Basically I'd be trying to exclude the script from altering anything between [[ and \.(jpe*g|JPE*G|png|PNG|gif|GIF|svg|SVG). I haven't used boundaries before, so that should be a good learning experience for me. Thanks for pointing me that way!
  3. I think most of the general fixes are valid and worth implementing. I'd be hesitant to turn them all off just to avoid the end-of-paragraph space removal. I was wondering if I could turn off just that one operation. (Alternatively, I guess I could request that the operation in question be removed from the general fixes, but I don't know how much traction I'd get with the community.)
Cheers —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ 16:01, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

@JamesLucas: I see you are not currently using normal 'Find and replace' Here is how I use it. In AWB, Options tab

tick the "Find and replace" checkbox, then select the Normal settings button.

For a new row, add in the "Find" column paste the Regex above, in "Replace with" put "$1)" without quotes, the replace part is what shows in the edit summary. Tick the checkboxes CaseSensitive, Regex and Enabled, then make sure the "Add replacements to edit summary" is ticked then click the OK button to save. Sun Creator(talk) 16:57, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

I am using the normal settings for find-and-replace, but I don't add replacements to the edit summaries because they're not particularly informative about the reasoning behind the changes and because the replacements are automatically separated by commas, they're downright confusing. An edit summary like this would be typical: /* top */[[MOS:COMMA|comma usage]], replaced: (born June 29, 1969 in [[New York City]]) → (born June 29, 1969), replaced: y 18, 2005 t → y 18, 2005, t, Nevada]] → Nevada]], (2). Now, I certainly could write my expressions differently to make the replacements more constrained, but what I really want my edit summaries to contain is the reason for the replacement—a link to MOS:COMMA, a link to MOS:BLPLEAD, or whatever helps other editors understand why a particular edit is a valid one. —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ 17:27, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Notes

  1. ^ Some homogenized streaks, however, lead me to edit in shorter sessions due to my dislike of them. For example, despite their being easy to review, I hate the streaks of Mediterranean men's names because they're awash with one-sentence bios of football players.
  2. ^ I read more frequently when editing articles not about specific asteroids or football players.
  3. ^ Disclaimer: I have not the slightest clue if there if there are any pine trees, tall or otherwise, near Boise.

Avoiding filenames

@JamesLucas: To avoid replacement in filename add the following code to the end of any existing regex. Text in alt= is replaced but not the actual filename. 'File' and 'image' are case insensitive(so I just learnt) and image= is commonly used in infoboxes i.e | image = filename.123 

(?<!([\|\[]|\<\s*[Gg]allery[^\<]*)\s*([Ff][Ii][Ll][Ee]|[Ii][Mm][Aa][Gg][Ee]\d?)\s*(:|=)[^\|\]\}]+)

So if you had an Idaho regex "\bIdaho\b" it would become 

\bIdaho\b(?<!([\|\[]|\<\s*[Gg]allery[^\<]*)\s*([Ff][Ii][Ll][Ee]|[Ii][Mm][Aa][Gg][Ee]\d?)\s*(:|=)[^\|\]\}]+)

Let me know if that doesn't work as desired anywhere. I've not used regex with filenames before. Sun Creator(talk) 21:36, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Leontxo Garcia: Spanish version updated

Hi, Sun Creator! Just to tell you the Spanish version of this article was updated today, just in case you would like to update the English one as well. Thank you very much in advance, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.86.53.152 (talk) 21:56, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

For later.

Precious anniversary

Precious
Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:42, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Thank you! and best wishes for the new year. Sun Creator(talk) 14:13, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Denmark (excluding Greenland) isn't in North America

Hi! I can't seem to find a way to remove "Denmark" from the North America section on the List of sovereign states and dependent territories by continent article (I know that Greenland is in North America, but Denmark itself is not). Can you help, please? 2605:E000:121D:8BF5:5CCA:E710:CEBC:5378 (talk) 22:38, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Stem-turle clades

Hi Sun Creator, since you seem to be the most active member of wikiproject turtles, I thought I would ask you to review my newly created articles Mesochelydia and Perichelydia, these are less inclusive subgroupings of Tesudinatata created by Joyce in 2017 toward Crown-Group testudines, I was wondering if you had any suggestions or feedback. Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:29, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

@Hemiauchenia:, Firstly, thanks for doing this. Wikiproject Turtles WP:TURTLES tends to deal with living turtles and those recently(Holocene) extinct. You may want to check out Palaeontology WP:PAL for stem-turtle clades. I suggest you find/add the doi link to the "Bulletin of the Peabody Museum of Natural History 58(1):65-113" as ease of access to a source tends to help others. Sun Creator(talk) 17:34, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!

please help translate this message into your local language via meta
The 2019 Cure Award
In 2019 you were one of the top ~300 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a thematic organization whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs.

Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 18:35, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Totals in Template: Covid-19

Hello, I used google spreadsheet to calculate the totals in the template, and since the total in the template was larger than the total of source we use, so I updated as the total. So, are we supposed to source the totals, too? I believe that the totals should represent Wikipedia's total except when the official source's number is larger. So, can you tell me how do you think? Luke Kern Choi 5 (talk) 12:50, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

@Luke Kern Choi 5: The totals change hundreds of times a day, making users constantly attempt to update. Yes, it should be sourced like everything else, hence message to use the source. Adding with a spreadsheet is WP:SYNTH. Sun Creator(talk)
I think there aren't any things like this, but I believe it would be better for Wikipedia to have a template, etc. for calculating the sum. Are there any already? Or can it be made? Sorry if I'm bothering you... I'll follow https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 for now~ But I still think that if possible, the totals should be calculated separately, since we are not copying a single source. I hope there should be discussion about this. Sorry for so many words! Thanks, Luke Kern Choi 5 (talk) 13:01, 8 March 2020 (UTC) Also, the source would update its total every time they add their numbers, and we don't just copy a single source(and the cited total wouldn't reflect our numbers), so that's why I am saying so much about this.Luke Kern Choi 5 (talk) 13:03, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
@Luke Kern Choi 5: I've not seen a page with a sum on the table but according to comments on the talk it is technically possible. It would be a good solution. My aim here is to reduce edit conflicts on this highly edited template and an auto sum would do that. Sun Creator(talk) 19:31, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks.Luke Kern Choi 5 (talk) 00:44, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
@Luke Kern Choi 5: List of South American countries by population uses code to sum total. That method might work, however, it makes template complex and likely edit unfriendly. Sun Creator(talk) 01:45, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

wuhan outbreak germany no data

hi sun creator,

i think it is unreasonable of you to change the entry for germany to no data multiple times without giving a source.

Please reconsider your actions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_outbreak_data — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scisne (talk • contribs) 12:22, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

@Scisne: The source in given on the left. Johns Hopkins CSSE https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 Sun Creator(talk) 12:25, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

I have seen that source, but the source says 0 deaths which is what changed to no data. But im seeing that the entire template has now been updated to say no data in many places. Maybe that is the new style, I'm not sure where this is coming from

--Scisne (talk) 12:27, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

@Scisne: Check again. The source says "No data". Sun Creator(talk) 12:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for giving the explanation, but i think you might be getting it wrong here. No data pops up if you click on the country on the left panel it says no data on panel below 0 deaths. I am not sure if that means there is no data on death counts. I think it just means there is no data on the locations of the deaths.
--Scisne (talk) 12:32, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
I see your point, it could be either way. Sun Creator(talk) 12:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

WOMC?

The source link appears to be dead? Are you sure its active? M nurhaikal (talk) 08:48, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Yes, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries is more up to date. Check 'new cases', column. Sun Creator(talk) 08:50, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Collapse notes

Can you collapse notes for the template(COVID)? The chart gets unnecessarily large on computer, which looks a bit overwhelming. Thanks, Luke Kern Choi 5 (talk) 11:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware the table is presently a fixed length. Is that not the case? @Luke Kern Choi 5: Sun Creator(talk) 11:41, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Well, on my computer, its length increases by 2 or maybe 3 times the width when note is shown. After some point, this happened. Maybe the note doesn't need to be collapsed, but I believe the width should remain same when the note is shown or hidden! Can you do that? Thanks, Luke Kern Choi 5 (talk) 11:45, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
I went to change it back, and it was already done. Sun Creator(talk) 11:49, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Luke Kern Choi 5 (talk) 12:06, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Category:Chelonia has been nominated for renaming

Category:Chelonia has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:51, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sun_Creator/Archive_25&oldid=1114548159"