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Bakhyt Akhmetov

I restored an earlier article causing your change to be reverted. I apologize, I placed your edit back. RCSCott91 (talk) 01:13, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Broken syntax

This edit introduced a syntax error. It appears that |nolink=on should have been changed to |link=no. The same error may have been introduced in other articles. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:08, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The edit was successful. I was testing Monkbot/task 20 code which has a specific task: convert {{lang-??}} templates to {{langx}}. Nothing more.

None of {{lang-ga}}, {{lang-sco-ulster}}, or any of the other now deleted {{lang-??}} templates knew anything about |nolink=; it was not, is not, a supported parameter. Just the other day I updated Module:Lang so that emits an error message when the template call includes parameters that are not supported. Before the update {{lang-ga}}, {{lang-sco-ulster}}, and {{langx}} silently ignored unknown parameters; {{langx}} no longer ignores unknown parameters so now, long after my test edit, you are seeing the result of that update.

If you do not want the language names linked, use the correct, supported, parameter. See Template:Langx § Parameters.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 20:35, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have no opinion on whether the language names should be linked and I had nothing to do with its template usage; indeed I had never edited it. I simply noticed that something had caused the template usage in the article to become clearly broken in its appearance. Perhaps it would have been best to remove any unrecognised parameters when making your change, so that this would not happen. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 22:00, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps it would have been best [if an editor did not add] any unrecognised parameters. Removing unknown parameters was not within bot's remit. The decision to emit error messages when unknown parameters were detected came after the bot had done its work, upped stumps, and retired to the pavilion. Since the advent of the error trapping, Category:Lang and lang-xx template errors has acquired ~1,100 articles that need fixing; a paltry number compared to the ~600,000 pages that the bot edited when converting {{lang-??}} to {{langx}}.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 22:59, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BarrelProof: In general, bots should not remove unsupported parameters prior to analysis. Parameters that are typos, for example, should generally be fixed rather than removed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:11, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Problem in user space

The deletion of Lzh template having unexpected results. See ‹See Tfd›. Dcattell (talk) Dcattell (talk) 16:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

replied there

—Trappist the monk (talk) 17:01, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Module:Lang localization

Hello, if possible, please consider moving localizable text/messages to it Module:Lang/config. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 18:15, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's on the TODO list.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:34, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Langx romanization

Hi there. I have noticed a certain error with the langx template. It seems previously "r" was sometimes used for the romanization parameter but the bot did not change this and this results in an error with the new template. See for example this version of an article. Mellk (talk) 07:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not an error in {{langx}} but is an error in how that specific {{langx}} template was written. |r= has never been a supported parameter in {{langx}} or its predecessor {{lang-??}} templates (in this case {{lang-ru}}). Likely the editor who made this edit confused {{lang-ru}} with {{lang-rus}} which, like {{lang-zh}}, supports unique single-character parameter names.

The error message is correct. You notice it now because of a recent update to Module:Lang. When unsupported parameters are used in any {{lang}} or {{langx}} template, Module:Lang emits an error message.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see, thanks for the correction. I assumed that the same parameter in lang-rus was also valid. Is there a way to easily find other pages that have the same issue in terms of unsupported parameters? Mellk (talk) 14:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This search.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect, thanks. Mellk (talk) 14:38, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have also noticed a similar error message with IPA e.g. Eugene Onegin (opera). Mellk (talk) 09:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]