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Your contributed article, Aaron F. Straight

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Speedy deletion nomination of Aaron F. Straight

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Aaron F. Straight requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Rajat Rohatgi

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Rajat Rohatgi requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. GILO A&E⇑ 00:36, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Aaron f. straight

The article Aaron f. straight has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Flat Out let's discuss it 08:46, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Aaron f. straight

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A tag has been placed on Aaron f. straight requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Flat Out let's discuss it 08:52, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

March 2015

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Aaron f. straight, a page you have created yourself. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. Flat Out let's discuss it 09:04, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not write or add to an article about yourself, as you apparently did at Aaron f. straight. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to an existing article about yourself, please propose the changes on its talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was my page deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss it with the deleting administrator. Thank you. Flat Out let's discuss it 09:05, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not remove speedy deletion notices from pages you have created yourself, as you did with Aaron f. straight. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion, which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. Flat Out let's discuss it 09:18, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Aaron F. Straight for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Aaron F. Straight is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aaron F. Straight until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Flat Out let's discuss it 10:40, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

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Teahouse invitation

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Your username

Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "Stanfordbiochem", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because *Wikipedia accounts must be for individuals only, who are personally responsible for them, and accounts whose usernames are the names of groups or organizations are not permitted.. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you.

Your username may be based on your real name, or not, as you choose (see WP:REALNAME for some considerations), but it should not be the name of any other living person, or of any group or organization. A username of the form "James at StanfordBioChem" would be acceptable, and would serve to declare your affiliation. JohnCD (talk) 10:55, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Notability and conflict of interest

You wrote "I work at Stanford Department of Biochemistry and have been asked to create a wikipedia page for all of our professors." I am afraid you, and whoever instructed you, have not understood Wikipedia: it is not an academic listing directory but a project to build an encyclopedia, and is quite selective about subjects for articles. The general inclusion criterion is called Wikipedia:Notability, and that for academics is at Wikipedia:Notability (academics). You should read those carefully, because well-intentioned attempts to create articles for non-notable people can cause embarrassment when they are deleted.

Even with an individual username, in any editing to do with Stanford Biochemistry Deprtment or its people you would have, from Wikipedia's point of view, a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, and should read that guideline and the Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide. In brief, you should not edit directly on subjects where you have a COI, but may submit drafts (click Help:Userspace draft to start one), or make suggestions on article talk pages for uninvolved users to consider. You should take care to avoid promotional language - Wikipedia requires a WP:Neutral point of view.

Note that you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use ("Paid contributions without disclosure" under section 4) to disclose your interest in any edits where you have a COI. JohnCD (talk) 10:59, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unreliable sources

Please do not reinstate information in the article lead that has been noted as unreliable. Please go to the article's talk page and discuss the issue. Media releases are not reliable as it states in the edit summary. Flat Out let's discuss it 11:00, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia and copyright

Hello Stanfordbiochem, and welcome to Wikipedia. Your addition to Aaron F. Straight has had to be removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.

You can only copy/translate a small amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double quotation marks (") and a cited source. You can read about this at Wikipedia:Non-free content in the sections on "text". See also Help:Referencing for beginners, for how to cite sources here.
Aside from limited quotation, you must put all information in your own words and structure, in proper paraphrase. Following the source's words too closely can create copyright problems, so it is not permitted here; see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. (There is a college-level introduction to paraphrase, with examples, hosted by the Online Writing Lab of Purdue.) Even when using your own words, you are still, however, asked to cite your sources to verify information and to demonstrate that the content is not original research.
Our primary policy on using copyrighted content is Wikipedia:Copyrights. You may also want to review Wikipedia:Copy-paste.
If you own the copyright to the source you want to copy or are a designated agent, you may be able to license that text so that we can publish it here. However, there are steps that must be taken to verify that license before you do. See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials.
In very rare cases (that is, for sources that are public domain or compatibly licensed), it may be possible to include greater portions of a source text. However, please seek help at the help desk before adding such content to the article. 99.9% of sources may not be added in this way, so it is necessary to seek confirmation first. If you do confirm that a source is public domain or compatibly licensed, you will still need to provide full attribution; see Wikipedia:Plagiarism for the steps you need to follow.
Also note that Wikipedia articles may not be copied or translated without attribution. If you want to copy or translate from another Wikipedia project or article, you can, but please follow the steps in Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia.

It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Flat Out let's discuss it 11:08, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Flat Out let's discuss it 11:16, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

March 2015

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Aaron F. Straight, you may be blocked from editing. Flat Out let's discuss it 11:32, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WOW. I think this is extremely unjust. I wasn't trying to vandalize anything. I was simply making edits and trying to improve the page based on your suggestions. I'm not allowed to respond to the issues brought up? Stanfordbiochem (talk) 11:35, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You are ignoring a marked copyright violation and reinstating it, you are deleted "Failed verification" tags left by other editors. When an editor raises a concern, don't just reinstate what you have already done - go to talk and discuss it. Flat Out let's discuss it 11:37, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What copyright violation? There is no copyright violation here. I thought I was pasting below the removal tags... I understand you guys are the "power that be" but you're being super unfair. I thought wikipedia was access to information and you're not allowing me to put information about people who are actually working on finding cures for diseases that affect millions. Of course all the world needs is more articles on Kim Kardashian. Stanfordbiochem (talk) 11:42, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very sorry for the difficulties you're experiencing. We all have things we don't like about Wikipedia, but its rules are designed to make its coverage as fair and accurate as possible. Let me explain:

Our notability policy is designed to be as non-judgemental as possible. It's a direct consequence of our fundamental need for all our information to be verified by reliable sources; if (and only if) a topic has been covered in some depth by reliable sources, then there is enough verifiable material to make an article out of. If the topic hasn't received much (or any) independent coverage, it's impossible to make a fair or trustworthy article. This policy makes Wikipedia a lagging indicator of notability and prevents our creating articles for many who"deserve" to be included, but it's the best way we've come up with to ensure a basic level of quality in our articles.
We have to take copyright issues seriously. Wikipedia can be copied and recopied by anyone, so republishing others' property here can be a massive problem for them. Also, Wikipedia is a donation-run non-profit which really can't afford to hire lawyers and pay fines for plagiarism. If the issue here is photos of people who work at the same institution as you, I suggest that you wait to see which biographies can survive the WP:Notability criteria and then go take pictures of the remaining researchers yourself, and follow the instructions at commons:Special:UploadWizard to release the copyright.

I appreciate your time, and apologize sincerely for the headaches we're causing. If your boss or professor assigned you to do this, you can show them the notability policy and tell them I said your deleted articles were quite nice, just not supported by enough independent coverage. FourViolas (talk) 12:22, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

File:Aaron F. Straight.jpg

I notice that File:Aaron F. Straight.jpg has been nominated for deletion on the grounds that it is © 2015 Stanford School of Medicine. Your summary on the file description page indicates that you personally took the photo; is that right? You may want to comment on the nomination page —teb728 t c 11:49, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stanfordbiochem (talk) 11:51, 8 March 2015 (UTC) teb728 I have Aaron F. Straight's permission to post the picture.[reply]

The image is from https://chemsysbio.stanford.edu/faculty-profiles/aaron-straight/ and clearly marked copyright to Stanford School of Medicine at the bottom of that page. Flat Out let's discuss it 11:54, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) I'm afraid an assertion of permission like that is not enough. The actual copyright owner (normally the person who took the photograph, but if these were official Stanford photos maybe the photographer assigned the copyright to Stanford) needs to make a formal release. How to arrange that is explained at Commons:COM:OTRS. JohnCD (talk) 11:58, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stanfordbiochem (talk) 11:59, 8 March 2015 (UTC) OK. I'm happy to remove the picture and ask the Aaron for a different picture.[reply]

You need the permission of the copyright owner, probably the photographer (and not Prof Straight). And the permission must allow reuse by anyone anywhere for anything (not just for Wikipedia). You said it was licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license. That is an acceptable license, but it doesn't sound like you have that specific license. —teb728 t c 12:02, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

teb728 OK. Evidently it was already removed. Can I make these pages for Professor Straight and the other professors at http://biochem.stanford.edu/labsSBD.html ? You are aware that most scientists go unnoticed by the larger public right? And unless a person can show their booty like Kim Kardashian they don't have access to wikipedia? I just don't understand all this haggling.

Please read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Although COI editing is not forbidden, it is strongly discouraged. Some people discourage it more strongly than others. I think that if you continue to create the articles, you will continue to have an bitey experience.

I left you a link to the Teahouse above. It tries to be especially friendly to new editors. You might try asking for help there. —teb728 t c 12:36, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I deserve recognition too but that isn't why Wikipedia exists. Aaron Straight doesn't meet the standard for entry as an academic so if the others are like him you really will be wasting your efforts. They have to meet WP:PROF, or have had lots of people write about them. Flat Out let's discuss it 12:15, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Flat Out Don't you find it a bit disturbing that someone like Kim Kardashian is given space on Wikipedia and not people working 80-90 hours a week to find the cure for cancer, HIV and many other diseases?

That's a slippery slope; if we determined what to delete by what we felt like including, we'd just argue forever about whether Justin Bieber is a great musician or not, whether his fans are really so numerous, why the people opposing us are misguided and short-sighted, and so on. WP:N cuts through all of that. It's a simple rule: If enough trustworthy, objective parties have said enough about a topic that we can collect an article's worth of verifiable facts, then we create that article. Otherwise, we don't. FourViolas (talk) 12:29, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User:FourViolas I just find this quite sad about what this says about humanity. These people have chosen not to work for a pharmaceuticals, but instead to work in a field where all their work is public domain. And you're saying their life and dedication isn't worth a page here so someone can view it? And you're equating finding a cure for a genetic disease, cancer or HIV to Justin Bieber? Anyway, delete it all.

Which genetic disease did they cure? Flat Out let's discuss it 12:49, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Flat Out they will soon enough :D Aaron's working on breast & skin Cancer, Peter's working on the HIV cure. Anyway, I know you guys don't know them personally and how much they dedicate their lives. But someday you, your families or someone you know ill be impacted by their contribution. But let's save the wiki-bandwidth for celebrities. They are obviously way more important since more people know them and they are more "notable".

As I explained above in the "March 2015" section, I sympathize with you but policy is clear. We simply aren't allowed to publish articles which can't be backed up with reliable sources. If we did, leaving aside the reliability of the info you provide, anyone else could vandalize the page with false statements and we would have no way to refute them. I wish everyone at Stanford the best, and I would be honored to help write their bios after they make their breakthrough and the NYT runs its in-depth profile. FourViolas (talk) 13:33, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FourViolas What are you saying? What part of Aaron Straight's page can't be backed up? I'm getting so many confusing messages from everyone. On one hand they're not public enough, on the other there may or may not be COI and now you're saying I need "reliable sources." So I need a link to Aaron's degree certificate from Harvard from Harvard so that it can be posted online?

File permission problem with File:Peter S. Kim.jpg

Thanks for uploading File:Peter S. Kim.jpg. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file has agreed to release it under the given license.

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Unfortunately Peter S. Kim is unable to release this photo into the public domain because the copyright holder is Bethany Versoy/V2Visuals Associates. Generally the copyright is almost always held by the photographer and almost never by the subject. Sorry —teb728 t c 07:51, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Recommending a Teahouse thread

Hi ‎Stanfordbiochem, I would like to call your attention to a thread at the Teahouse where a person in a circumstance similar to yours (in this case an employee or the Cornell Law Library wanting to propose articles for Cornell Law faculty) asked for help. The thread is at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#Article proposal and COI; you may find it helpful. —teb728 t c 22:31, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]