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January 2010

You should wait for others to write an article about subjects in which you are personally involved, as you did at Vladimir Miklyukov. This applies to articles about you, your achievements, your band, your business, your publications, your website, your relatives, and any other possible conflict of interest.

Creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. If you create such an article, it might be listed on articles for deletion. Deletion is not certain, but many feel strongly that you should not start articles about yourself. This is because independent creation encourages independent validation of both significance and verifiability. All edits to articles must conform to Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, and Wikipedia:Verifiability.

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The article Vladimir Miklyukov is not about myself. My name is Alexandra and I am Vladimir's daughter and his publishing representative. I am a tech support for his websites where we keep texts of the lectures and repository of all published works. The article does satisfy criteria of Wikipedia:Notability, Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, and Wikipedia:Verifiability. Pure mathematical research is not as popular as punk rock music, nobody would bother to waist their time writing on topics they are not intersted in, that is why Russian, Ukrainian, and English wikipedias miss a great deal of core information in mathematics. There is nothing illogical or wrong in writing about notable friends and relatives, it just has to be within the above rules (no emotional expressions + all the verifiable sources).

Let's take a test: would my article pass the censorship if I did not shout out my real name on the members page? yes, it would. It would still break the rule of WP:COI, just nobody would find out. I don't believe in hiding a real name, because confidentiality rule of wikipedia compromises the seriousness of the whole encyclopedic project we are working on: wearing the mask makes cheating invisible. Confidentiality is only good for art things, wikipedia is not an art project. Threfore, I include my name here.

About the rules (WP:COI), just today I've found a lovely argument in Oran Canfield's memoir book "Long Past Stopping". In response to some school's discriminatory policy, his mother said: "There would not be any civil rights if we had just mindlessly obeyed the law" (p.112-113). And every law has exceptions, by the way.--sobaka_kachalova 03:07, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I did not mean to say that you should not write about your relatives. It was just a hint that this is delicate thing, and that you should be aware of those Wikipedia rules such as WP:COI, WP:NPOV, for example. --bender235 (talk) 03:20, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Third opinion: I just saw that there's a pending 3O for this page. What exactly is the third opinion for? SobakaKachalova is clearly a conflict of interest, and this article definitely looks like it was edited by someone who's a COI. So what's the issue? — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 15:39, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The third party has been asked to verify that

the stub tag is not relevant anymore since the article was rewritten in January and a stub tag was assigned in October or November.
all the sources are verifiable and are not the product of original research
the subject is notable

--15:52, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

My point: The article does satisfy criteria of Wikipedia:Notability, Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, and Wikipedia:Verifiability, even though it was written by a close relative and technically violates the rules of WP:COI. The stub and other "offensive" tags should be updated or removed.--sobaka_kachalova 15:52, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

It's true that the article does satisfy WP:N, but there are a great deal of issues. For example, some of your sources aren't actual sources. You write "In 1968, after graduatiation from Donetsk State University", and the source given is "Now Donetsk National University (Donetsk, Ukraine)." That's not a source, that's a footnote. You need an actual secondary reliable source to verify that. In another place you use write that "Georgy Dmitrievich Suvorov" was his doctoral adviser, and the source you give is an article on the Russian Wiki. Wiki articles aren't reliable sources, so they can't be used like this. I see both of these are done in several places in the article. Until these issues are taken care of, the tags should stay. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 18:05, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FYI conflict of interest guideline

see also: Wikipedia is not a soapbox and What may I not have on my user page?

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links fixed

I did fix the references to the best of my knowledge. Can I ask someone please to review and update the tags on Talk:Vladimir_Miklyukov. Thanx a lot.--sobaka_kachalova 00:36, 8 February 2010 (UTC) {{helpme}}--sobaka_kachalova 17:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

You should get someone else to check it for neutrality, sorry I cannot do it as I am hanging out on IRC and doing something else. Thanks! Samwb123^{T (R)-C-E} 19:05, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That appears to be a very good article, very well sourced, congratulations. However, I do not think those templates should be removed from the article talk page. Currently, there are three. 1.) The article must adhere to the policy on biographies of living persons... 2.) The article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography... 3.) An individual covered by or significantly related to this article has made non-trivial contributions to the article. Let us look at each of those three templates. 1.) Yes, the article must adhere to the policy, this cannot be changed. 2.) The article is a biography and is thus within that scope. 3.) You basically wrote the article yourself. You appear to have done a tremendous job and are to be congratulated for that, however, you did write it yourself and a person should possibly bear that in mind in case you were biased in some way. You appear to have been very factual, which is great, but we do not want the authorship to surprise someone later on. So, I think all the three templates should stay. But, they don't detract anything from the page itself -- good work, again. If there's anything else I can do, please contact me on my talk page. :) Banaticus (talk) 09:42, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thanks a lot to everyone for taking care of Vladimir_Miklyukov. The article looks very much better now.
And Happy Valentine's Day, which is this Sunday (the 14th)((-: --sobaka_kachalova 17:39, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

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Need help to delete an image

{{helpme}} Question: I need some help to delete an image VolgogradPedagogicalUniversity.png (there were 3 versions). First error was with thumbnail, second two I think I left the wrong extension converting *.jpg to *.png and therefore could not get rid of the black background. I have replaced that image with VolgogradPedagogicalUniversity.jpg, so the *.png can be deleted all 3 versions.

Thanks a lot.--sobaka_kachalova 19:05, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

You can tag the image with {{db-self}} and an admin will delete it. CTJF83 GoUSA 19:40, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I also uploaded a much smaller version of the .jpg image to confirm with low resolution standards per 3B at WP:NFCC CTJF83 GoUSA 20:26, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It looks much better. Thanx(-:--sobaka_kachalova 20:48, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

No problem, I also tagged the the png for deletion. CTJF83 GoUSA 21:21, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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