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Hiya. I noticed that you added {{duplicated citations}} to Treaty of Trianon. You may be interested in User:Polygnotus/DuplicateReferences which can do that for you, and specifies which of the refs have been duplicated to make cleanup easier. Polygnotus (talk) 18:04, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

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Maxton Rollerskate edits

Hi Snowman304, I reverted your edits to this page. I was curious as to why you made the changes you did.Kumboloi (talk) 20:53, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@Kumboloi: I did notice that, and I didn't understand why you reverted them. My edits were to clean up the citations—removing unused parameters and adding archives to make them easier to check in case links change/rot. If you peruse my contributions, you'll see thousands of similar changes. Snowman304|talk 21:27, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

That's what I suspected. It just seemed a little unusual to convert so many working references to archived items, and leave some. When I scanned through the changes, it also appeared that some author attributions were lost (although they may have just been moved). I also noticed some odd looking artifacts left, like "last=< !--Not stated-->", instead of "author=< !--Not stated-->". It looked like a script error. Thanks Snowman304.Kumboloi (talk) 22:06, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

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Re: This edit.

We/I have had a couple editors before say the information (ie: the facility ID number) was unsourced, hence the source. I understand that's a coding issue, but it's done to keep a vocal minority happy. I'll leave that up to you and Sammi. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 01:45, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

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CS1 error on Lala Mustafa Pasha's Caucasian campaign

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archive-url links

Hi. Your bot archived links on Helen Levitt. I don't see the advantage of the redundancy, when the web pages are fresh or obviously made to stay, like the MoMA pages. The reference just looks awful and unnecessarily technical. There is a link that works fine, the redundant archive-url is just irritating and disturbing. I certainly see the purpose, but the bot produces -beside the already described redundancies- also the illusion of good maintenance. I found several links (in this lemma) the bot added an archive-url to that were already dead or just a search box (instead of a find). Would you be at least able to make the archive-urls invisible as long as the original urls are live? This would be a good compromise, I think. (The wording "rescued" is pretentious anyway, if the link was visited the day before) MenkinAlRire 13:56, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi there!

It's not my bot, so I don't have control over its "pretentious" verbiage.

Link rot happens all the time. There's even a whole page about it (WP:LINKROT). The archive-url is a feature, not a bug. You want people to be able to look at the references in 5, 10, 15 years from now, even if MoMA moves the pages or the New York Times puts the article behind a paywall. That's why, for example, the cited journal articles have DOIs.

Is it a perfect system? Of course not. There are a few tweaks I'll have to make to what it output, e.g., the 404 errors it archived. But it's a lot better than leaving link rot to chance. Snowman304|talk 14:19, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

My point was, if there wasn't a way to design it more discreet. It makes no sense to show an archive-url as long as the original link works. As a reader I really don't want to see a technicality, it's unnerving to read and try to understand why there has to be two or even three or four links for one reference, especially when they are unchecked.

It seems to me, that technical principles, the bureaucratic aspect rules over the actual experience to read and work with WP. The design is everything else but elegant. This is certainly true for all the formulas urls are archived with, they usually result in redundancies that make no sense and hurt the eye (and the brain). It's not a bug, but it looks like one, and in the cases I meant it isn't a feature either. I would expect the NYT and the MoMA as well would announce such a move beforehand. But I expect too, that it's (more) complicated, and the vast WP has to use all bots it can get. MenkinAlRire 16:00, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Well, that's all well beyond my pay grade (as a volunteer). Go take it up on Help talk:Citation Style 1 or something. Snowman304|talk 16:21, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I wanted to add something in that sense./ MenkinAlRire 16:58, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

The wrong use of PHOBILE

I just want to let you be aware, the PHOBILE is never a reliable source to use when adding info on the phonology. It is primarily only based on second-hand interpretations of sources, and does not provide enough detailed information either. Fdom5997 (talk) 18:01, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Gotcha! Thanks for letting me know. Snowman304|talk 21:13, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

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Draft : House of Hasib

Hi, The Tree will be formatted as required but can your mark the point where more citations are needed. Just (Citation Needed) beside the points and I will do the rest. Fuzayl1 (talk) 13:06, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

AfC declines

Hi there, thanks so much for volunteering to help out with the AfC backlog! I've resubmitted and accepted a draft you declined, Truncated Triangular Pyramid Number. We're not looking for perfection, just whether something is totally unsuitable or not and whether it would survive a deletion discussion. When you're looking at a draft of something that looks notable but has unreferenced bits, you can simply accept it (add maintenance tags if you like), or remove the unclearly sourced content if it's particularly problematic. Declining drafts that are mostly fine confuses and frustrates newbies, and once the articles are in mainspace they're more likely to get help from other more experienced editors, so the aim here is to move to mainspace unless they're not notable or a total disaster. -- asilvering (talk) 16:03, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Whoops, I aimed my standards a little too high. I definitely wasn't looking at it through the eyes of a newbie. Thanks for letting me know! Snowman304|talk 23:54, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

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MyIP19216811 (talk) 21:48, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello! So he was head of the ISI's Afghan bureau. That's the only cited fact in this stub. What did he do during that time? The CIA and the Saudis got involved, but what did he (and/or the ISI) do?

Why is his book notable? Anybody can write a book. Is it about what he did? Is it a retrospective on the war? Has anyone written a review on it in an academic journal or other reviewed source? Snowman304|talk 00:19, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

The Yousaf is was verified by three separate credible sources as the ISI lead person in one of the most significant organizations involved in a conflict whose consequences are ongoing. His two books are cited in other Wikipedia articles. I realize that the article I created was rather short but at the risk of whataboutism I have seen articles with fewer citations for less notable people.

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  • Draft:Lee Brovitz (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This article is supported by credible references and should be approved. These articles are all reputable and support the fame of this artist.

Bitghost (Official) (talk) 04:10, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

There are exactly zero citations in the "Career" section. There are only two in "Early life". Also, most of the discography is unsourced. The hyperlinked bits of the references mostly seem to be quotes and not the titles of the webpage or article.

In short, this article is not ready for prime time and should stay in draftspace. The citations are currently not enough. The lead section is better sourced than the body, and that's a problem. Snowman304|talk 04:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Yeshayahu Folman

Hello @Snowman304, You have declined my draft and that is following me removing all asked. Please point me to what isnt sourced...? Also, why decline and not ask for changes? I mean, he is worthy and it seems unfair. Thank you, Shahar Navon new (talk) 08:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

@Shahar Navon new It's because basic things like his birthday (as one example) don't have citations. Another editor declined the article in June and there are still citation issues. I agree that he probably should have an article. But this version isn't ready yet. Snowman304|talk 12:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much! can you tell me what should be removed? since Yeshayahu was born in 1934, i cant think of a source for that... I searched many articles and i didnt see sources for DOB so if you can point me to what should be removed, I will do it and resubmit. Thank you! Shahar Navon new (talk) 15:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Have you been able to find an obituary? Do any of the sources mention an age? If we don't have an exact date or even year, there's Template:Birth based on age as of date. So if you can find something that says he died at 88 in 2022, you could do {{Birth based on age at death|88|2022}} and get 1933 or 1934. You could then use Template:Death date and given age with that same source.

Again, this is only one fact in the article that still needs citation. Snowman304|talk 19:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

@Snowman304 Hello, yes I have the death certificate but its a PDF file, also I dont think it's should be on the net, can I maybe send it to you to see?

As for his death, there are sources such as https://kenes-media.com/%d7%94%d7%90%d7%99%d7%a9-%d7%a9%d7%a9%d7%99%d7%a0%d7%94-%d7%90%d7%aa-%d7%94%d7%9e%d7%93%d7%93-%d7%9c%d7%97%d7%9c%d7%95%d7%a7%d7%aa-%d7%9e%d7%a2%d7%a0%d7%a7%d7%99-%d7%9e%d7%97%d7%a7%d7%a8/ saying "Professor Isaiah Pullman died in the first week of this month and is 88 years old." is that enough? Shahar Navon new (talk) 11:45, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Draft: Roy William Harris

Hello @snowman304, you rejected my draft on Will Harris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Roy_William_Harris a few days ago (on the basis of an empty section and it being light on references). I do not disagree with your assessment and your feedback is accurate. I have been frustrated by the paywalls and lack of good research material. Will Harris was really big news 25 years ago in the energy industry. He is notable for a $200 million fraud on Chase Bank (back when this was one of the biggest financial crimes ever committed) and was also the first RICO-type legal case against a corporation. In RICO cases, they take away all of your financial resources upfront. He basically ended up with a public defender/pro bono lawyer and was found guilty to all sorts of things that would probably not be today. I would hope that more resources will be available in the future with ExCo privileges. It would be really helpful to get a few other editors involved in review as there are things that I am limited in knowing about Will Harris from the outside looking in. Any thoughts or help would be greatly appreciated. The best sources that I have are on old Bloomberg article and the text of a couple of his appeals to his sentencing. Apparently, a lawyer worked on his case (pro-bono again) for like a decade. Refineryguycanada (talk) 15:12, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Anthropophage page

Undoing your revert. The page is the literal source that Anthropophagi is being cited. I simply made a more usable and precise citation that links to the archived (public domain) digital copy. See source below my citation. RCSCott91 (talk) 19:22, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I was a little hasty in my reversion, and I'm sure that was annoying. The Internet Archive's search functions are still a bit wonky (likely due to the hacks and such), and I missed it when reading. One thing that will help in the future is, when citing an encyclopedia, using Template:Cite encyclopedia. That way you can include both the entry (under |title=) and the encyclopedia (under |encyclopedia=). Snowman304|talk 19:48, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I don't blame you, there is a ton of vandalism and bad edits, with limited time; friendly fire happens. Yes, I'm so happy the archive is finally back up, stupid people doing stupid things.

Thank you for that info. I wasn't even thinking of cyclopaedia like that when it is literally one of the first modern encyclopedias. RCSCott91 (talk) 00:37, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

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