User talk:Smetanahue

re: Sjöström articles

Hi! Thanks for your comment. I think it's important that all films for notable directors and actors are created, even if they're are now lost or forgotten. The Swedish wiki has articles for all these films too, so there could be useful information over there to help with expansion. Thanks. Lugnuts (talk) 07:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Låt den rätte...

Hi Smetanahue. Good work replacing the IMDb cite. I had been planning to do that for a long time, but never got around to locating a source for all the release dates.

Anyway, I was wondering if you particularly prefer raw references rather than citation templates. If you have no particular preference, I may change it to a citation template at some point, since most of the article now uses those. Regards, decltype (talk) 16:59, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, great. I have noticed all the work you have done on Swedish film articles. It would be great to get another one up to GA, but it's a lot of work. decltype (talk) 17:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Please join the discussion on the talkpage concerning how to describe the film. Just reverting back and forth isn't constructive.

Peter ^Isotalo 08:56, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Harmony Korine

Hey Smetanahue. Thanks for the links. I've been looking for someone who is well-versed in knowledge about Korine's films as well as proficient with Wikipedia. It seems I've found just the person. Hopefully, over time, we can construct some good articles. Endlessmug (talk) 00:54, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Nice work!

Just stopping by to thank you for your recent overhaul of Lilya 4-ever; keep it up!  Skomorokh  01:08, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I see that you have worked on quite a few articles related to Russia, are you a Russian speaker by any chance? It could perhaps be a good idea to include some notes on the Russian reception of the film in the article. But I can't read Russian so I can't do it myself. Smetanahue (talk) 05:20, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

White Ribbon

Although I undid your change I'm thinking about your objection. I didn't mean it dismissively. My thinking is that if a movie is about a sick man's last wishes, we wouldn't hesitate to say he's sick. In this case, I think it's factual (and sourced) that the society in the village is sick. But perhaps you disagree and I'm interested in your thoughts. Thanks. --Ring Cinema (talk) 18:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind, but I don't believe in having one conversation in two places so I responded to you on my talk page. I think it's easier. --Ring Cinema (talk) 23:51, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Cannes 2010

Excellent idea to try and get all the films up to a good standard. Last year, I did a lot of work on the main 2009 article, with the hope of getting it to a featured list (compare some of the Academy Award ones). Maybe the 2010 page can make it this time! Lugnuts (talk) 18:48, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

The lead section needs expanding for one. I think everything else is OK - each section is referenced laid out OK, etc. I'll cross-check with the FL guidance. Lugnuts (talk) 19:15, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Again - thanks for all the excellent work on expanding the 2010 films. Do you have any links to expand/create the production details for last years film Dogtooth? I'm more than happy to write the narrative for the article. If you can find anything of use, please add it to the talkpage of the article, and I'll incorporate it into the article. Cheers! Lugnuts (talk) 18:54, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Good idea - I'll drop a note on the Greek project's page. Really recommend the film, if it screens anywhere near where you are. Lugnuts (talk) 09:16, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

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Thank you

		WP:FILM Bronze Reel
		This is to acknowledge and thank you for your participation in tagging and assessing 200 articles in WP:FILMS' Tag & Assess Drive 2009-2010. You have helped to ensure our project has a better idea of the articles under our scope. I appreciate your efforts in further helping the project! --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 21:25, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Greek poster

I have asked the film project. You are welcomed to join the discussion here. Thank you. Mike Allen 01:49, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I have reverted back to the original poster per the conclusion of the discussion (above). Mike Allen 06:57, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

by whom?

WHo does the synopsis belong to? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.186.196.63 (talk) 22:14, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Illusionist article

Hi Smetanahue, It was good to see your edits to to The Illusionist‎. I wasn't sure what one sentence meant
"The film opened in France in 84 copies."
I wondered if this meant "84 cinemas". Do you think you could clarify. Thanks. Spanglej (talk) 23:46, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

No worries - I checked the reference you gave. Should have thought of that before. Spanglej (talk) 00:06, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

re: Pendulum

Yes, looks that way - I was wondering where that double-redirect came from! Lugnuts (talk) 17:01, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Enter the Void

Amazing work (as always) on the expansion of this! Lugnuts (talk) 08:30, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

And again - the good work just keeps on coming! Lugnuts (talk) 13:11, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

And another thank you for expanding the article on Submarino. Lugnuts (talk) 15:03, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Category:Surrealist films

As you made a comment in the discussion on Wikiproject Films, perhaps you would care to add your tuppence worth at this discussion? I would appreciate it. ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 23:31, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Poetry 2010 Korean Film

Hello there. I'm sorry I didn't reply your message from a few months ago as I didn't know I had a message. I spent a fair amount of time on the Korean cinema section last summer before the new semester started and now, winter break, I hope to continue some as well. I don't speak Korean beyond basic conversation but I will take a look at the Korean page and see if I can write up a summary. Thanks for bringing that to my attention and sorry again for the really late reply.

re: Frič

Thanks! Thought it might already exist to be honest! Lugnuts (talk) 13:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Dogtooth

Thanks again with the expansion work on this article. It's looking pretty good now. Hopefully I can find some non-English reactions to the Oscar nom! Lugnuts (talk) 13:56, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah unfortunately I don't speak Greek. I don't think I can take the Dogtooth article much further at this point unless there are new interviews made, so I'll have to focus on the other Oscar noms instead, even though they're not nearly as good movies. Smetanahue (talk) 14:12, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Me neither! I've posted a request on the Greek WP talkpage for any local coverage, and I've also found an article (in English) with reaction from Lanthimos. Lugnuts (talk) 13:39, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Jackpot! Yannismarou very kindly posted this on my talkpage. I've built these refs in, feel free to improve the layout/formatting, etc. Lugnuts (talk) 20:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Berlin

Hi Smetanahue. Film festival time is upon us once again. For this year's Berlin Festival, I saw you had a comment about a film in competition in the edit history (Tales of the Night), and I've split out the main film infomation from the existing article and populated a former redirect (here). Thanks. Lugnuts (talk) 12:24, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, agree with the poor show this time round, however The Turin Horse looks quite interesting. Lugnuts (talk) 08:25, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

re: Talk:Il caimano

Thanks for the update. You were much more successful finding things than I was last night. If no one objects in the next day or so, I'll count that as confirmation enough and help move the page if you like. By the way, some of what you found probably belongs in the article itself. Rossami (talk) 17:34, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Bergman template

Would appreciate your comments here - Template talk:Bergman --Rob Sinden (talk) 13:16, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the Bergman template and cat to the Seduction ... article. I don't know why I never thought of that. --JN466 15:54, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Film director templates

Hello Smetanahue. After all your sterling work on film director navigation boxes, I am sorry to see film dates disappearing from some of them recently. Although their removal may give a more streamlined appearance to the box, it is usually at the expense of helpfulness. Dates are actually useful as navigational aids in all sorts of circumstances. For instance, if I want to check out Fellini's films of the 1970s, at present it requires trial-and-error to identify which ones they are. Or if I am a newcomer to a Soviet filmmaker like Dovzhenko, it is useful to see at a glance in which periods of his 30-year career he was most active before following up individual films. And in some cases the date is important as an identification element, especially where an English title has been used for a foreign classic. Take the case of Abel Gance's 1917 film Mater dolorosa (as opposed to his 1932 version): I doubt whether many Gance enthusiasts would recognise it under the title The Torture of Silence, but at least with a date attached they might track it down more quickly. As far as I can see, the majority of director navigation boxes have been constructed with the dates included, and I think that greatly enhances their usefulness. Lampernist (talk) 13:09, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks for your prompt reply - and perhaps you'll permit me to come back with a couple of points! Firstly, on the comparison with other templates like Shakespeare, Scientology, World War II, these are complex subjects whose structure is built into the group divisions of the template - whereas in most film careers the dates really are the primary structuring element. If the template has a decade structure, that goes part of the way, but I still think the specific dates are better for films. Secondly, in those other templates that you mention, the article headings are arranged in alphabetical order, and that's clear enough; in the director templates, the articles are kept in their date order - but if the dates aren't there, it is confusing to see what the order is. But to return to my main issue: I take your point that navigation boxes should be devoted to navigation, but I would argue that the dates are often an important part of that navigation. If you are looking for a route to a film title that you know, then OK, the titles are enough. But I find that there are many occasions when I want to navigate by the date structure instead, or by a combination of title and date (this is the point about foreign films whose English titles are not always universally familiar even though they are Wikipedia's preferred form). So I think I would still like to champion the importance of film dates (above any other factor - and the TV listings usually bear that out!) Lampernist (talk) 14:45, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Ingmar Bergman filmography

Well done on making the effort with the table - but our "issue" still remains ;) I've left a few comments on Talk:Ingmar Bergman filmography. --Rob Sinden (talk) 14:02, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

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Korkoro

Thanks a lot for modifying the page to WP:MOSFILM standards. I would now work on changing the release section to prose form and also add French reviews in the critical reception section._morelMW^illiam 06:38, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I converted the release section to prose and also added French reviews to the reception. Could you remove the global coverage tag you placed there? _morelMW^illiam 07:57, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for The Old Lady and the Pigeons

The DYK project (nominate) 06:57, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Template:Scott Rudin

I have moved your comments. Keep in mind Rudin has now won 7 Tonys when commenting.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:54, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

List of surrealist films

In fact I agree with you but I had noted a couple of films in the old list and I wanted to see them but I didn't have the time. So when today I went to the list to find the titles it was... shorter! So, I went to the history, found the revision I wanted and reverted yours. It was because I don't want to do a research from a revision.--46.246.144.68 (talk) 16:30, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Venice

Hi Smetanahue. As you can see, I've filled in the blanks for the in competition films this year. I'll try and do the other major sections in the next week or so. Lugnuts (talk) 09:01, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Anytime. And I think you do a cracking job with the expansions too. Lugnuts (talk) 17:45, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

De brug

Nice addition of the Ivens template. Didn't know about that one. --Lexein (talk) 21:18, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Category:Surrealist artists

At some point, I would like to discuss this category with you. I went through and removed several artists who were erroneously categorized here, but there is one has been restored. If you would, can you take a look at Naohisa Inoue, and tell me what you think of his being categorized as a Surrealist artist? Being influenced by Surrealism is not the same as being a Surrealist, i.e., being associated with the movement. A few newspaper reviews are not adequate to make the connection, in my opinion. In general, all of the Surrealist categories need a thorough going-over. As I say, I'd like to hear your thoughts. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobite_TheFortyFive 16:25, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, and I agree with you. I do not believe Surrealist music article is on my watchlist, for some strange reason, but I will take a look at it. I know I have worked on it in the past, but that has been some time ago. I put Category:Surrealist comic strips up for deletion, and tried to make my point there about encyclopedic definitions v. overly-broad definitions that lack encyclopedic value. We will see how that develops. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobite_TheFortyFive 18:08, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Enter the Void

The article Enter the Void you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Enter the Void for things which need to be addressed. GRAPPLE X 08:16, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed the changes, and passed the article. Well done! GRAPPLE X 16:31, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Smetanahue (talk) 16:36, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Koestler Navbox

I'd be happy if you'd work on this. I haven't transferred it to mainspace, since I thought it might be deleted in its present state.--MacRusgail (talk) 15:02, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

It's here, but please edit in the next week or so, or it will be deleted by other people: Template:Arthur Koestler--MacRusgail (talk) 15:06, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for The Half Brother

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:02, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Template:Peter Watkins

Hi. In removing the splits in Template:Peter Watkins you've also removed the chronological sense of these films, which was useful info for readers. May I suggest you consider restoring the dates for each film in parentheses? It's what I've seen done elsewhere -- and done myself here in Template:Norman McLaren -- and I believe it's useful. With the dates gone, the template serves no purpose other than what the category does, and we have a loss of useful data, rather than a gain. regards, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:25, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, I disagree, especially for a small navbox like Watkins. Again, without some form of supplemental info -- why even duplicate the category at all? But I'll respect your wishes in this case. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:58, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

The Artist budget

I'm sorry I didn't see the budget figure in the production section. I used this conversion website to convert the currencies, just so you know I wasn't just making it up. ;) —Mike Allen 01:09, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Oh, the Los Angeles Times is a reliable blog that is accepted on film articles, for future reference. —Mike Allen 01:13, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Liststyle

Hi! You seem to know more about coding templates than I do, is there any difference between using italic liststyle and apostrophes to make each entry italic? Just wondering since you've been changing them but I can't spot any visible difference. Smetanahue (talk) 20:58, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Such as on Template:Yasunari Kawabata. Using liststyle to sets italics sets the visual rendering to italic, including the generated "·" which is not good, but it fails to markup the individual list items and would set italics on anything anyone glues in there along with the link, such as a year or co-author. It's also likely to trip many editors who don't know how to escape the force-all italics. It's really about much more than mere visual appearance. /structure matters/ ;) Alarbus (talk) 03:05, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

I edited a few that you've worked on recently. I'm doing English authors at the moment. I'll likely make a more systematic pass through the various others (if WOSlinker doesn't get them first). Alarbus (talk) 03:48, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Bande à part vs Band of Outsiders

In light of your previous participation in film titling issues, the discussion at Talk:Bande à part (film)#Requested move may be of interest.—Roman Spinner (talk) 23:55, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

The Illusionist film

you wrote “The Illusionist (2006 film), an American period film” and I dont get it how come is an american period film, what do you mean by that? with respect, Dan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marian Dan (talk • contribs) 22:13, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

About WP:RETAIN

Hi Smetanahue,

I saw your comments on the talk page for Arrietty, and believe you have completely misapplied WP:RETAIN. What WP:RETAIN says is that an article should be left as is if the version of English used is currently consistent, but it should be changed to use the first version of English used in the edit history if it is currently inconsistent. If the article is consistent, then WP:RETAIN says it should be left as is, and the first version doesn't matter. In this case, the article was pretty consistent in using the name "The Secret World of Arrietty". While I personally think that it is a stretch to apply WP:RETAIN to a proper name, if you did want to apply it then following WP:RETAIN meant the article should have been left as is due to being consistent. The whole point of WP:RETAIN is that you should not go through the whole article and change one usage to another usage when the article is currently consistent. What you did is what WP:RETAIN is intented to prevent. Calathan (talk) 02:04, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

As you say, WP:RETAIN says "An article should not be edited or renamed simply to switch from one valid use of English to another." It isn't just talking about switching from the original version, but from any version you happen to come upon. That is why the section is titled "Retaining the existing variety" (emphasis added). Whatever version of English you see in the article when you happen to come upon it, that is the version you should leave it with. The part about using the first verison is only for when you come upon an article that is inconsistent. The whole point is that it isn't worth arguing over which version of Enlgish is used, so as long as the article is currently consistent, you should leave it alone. Whether or not someone else previously switched it is immaterial. Two wrongs don't make a right. Also, keep in mind that other concerns can be a valid reason to rename an article (such as the article having national ties, or one name being more common per WP:COMMONNAME). WP:RETAIN is only saying not to switch the version of English if there isn't a good reason to do so. Calathan (talk) 13:57, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I still think you are completely missing the point of WP:RETAIN. The point of the guideline is to prevent the version of English from being changed over and over again. With WP:RETAIN, if someone else has done the wrong thing and needlessly changed the version of English used, you are still not supposed to change it back. Changing it back is just as much a violation of WP:RETAIN as changing it the first time. The main point of the guideline is not to prevent the style of English from ever changing from the first version, but instead to prevent it from needlessly being changing from the current version. It doesn't matter what version was first as long as the current version is consistent. Calathan (talk) 18:43, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

What you say about any rogue being free to change articles back and forth is not true. If someone keeps changing the version of English in an article for no good reason, then they can be asked to stop, and if they refuse then other messures can be taken (such as a RFC/U, imposing edit restrictions, or banning them if that is what it takes). Reverting the changes to an article isn't stopping it from being changed, but changing it an additional time. WP:RETAIN isn't about keeping the article in a certain state, but about stopping a certain type of behavior. Changing the article back isn't getting rid of someone else's bad behavoir, but adding your own bad behavior on top of it. Calathan (talk) 19:12, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Independent Foreign Fiction Prize

Hi no offense I removed the table because it was inconsistent with the rest of the article. If you want to convert the entire article to table format lets discuss and work on a scratch page first as it needs to show short list, long list and winner in the same table. My personal opinion is tables look nice but take considerable more work to create and thus discourage editors from doing the work required to maintain the article. In this case it's simple to just cut and paste the list into the article and add markup and its done, also easy to read without information overload, more compact. And with time sooner than later the article will become too big to fit in one page, the tables will hasten that. Green Cardamom (talk) 17:59, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, to be honest it looked like shit. Smetanahue (talk) 08:37, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Fear (Zweig novella)

Hi. I enjoyed your new little article on Fear (Zweig novella) and especially the Lezard quote. Apropos of that, I thought you might be amused to know that it was apparently Zweig who introduced Freud to Dali - had you heard that? I love that .. can you imagine? "Salvador, this is Sigmund ... you two might have a few things to discuss ..." It must have been an extraordinary moment. Not citeable but hope you like it! Cheers, DBaK (talk) 20:23, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I didn't know that. Smetanahue (talk) 14:37, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

You're most welcome :) best wishes DBaK (talk) 19:37, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

2012 Cannes Film Festival

Again, great work with the latest festival work. I'll try and make a lot more of those red links blue in the next few days. Lugnuts (talk) 13:57, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for The Great Enigma

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:06, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Infobox images

Hi. Can you show me the guideline that says that infobox posters should be from the country of origin? I'm fairly new here... not sure how to find the right guideline. And I found other foreign films that use the US poster, such as Spirited Away, A Separation and Downfall. Thanks. Film Fan (talk) 11:47, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Crulic

Unfortunately, in the process the information you are filling in is innaccurate and misleading. I am doing the edits with the agreement of the producer and director of the film (me being part of the animation team as well). It is important that info describing the production and financiers appears correct, and due to the nature of the film is very important that the team of animators is featured in the infobox, as their contribution was major. Same is true for the voice acting. I am reverting your changes. If you think stuff in the body of the article can be written better, go for it but please do not change the infobox.

I know the infobox is not as flexible as it should, which is unfortunate. The only one reasonable would be the "Hollywood cartoon" one, but it lacks the country fields. The Hollywood cartoon has the correct fields for actors (which is voice, not Starring) and fields for animators. But again, it misses important fields which makes it unsuitable.

It's very important that the animators are in the infobox, and the studios are mentioned there as I wrote them, all of them and in that order. Otherwise this could cause a lot of problems. I also think it's important that the voice actors are all mentioned. Again, this was the request of the producer/director (Anca Damian). I understand your concerns, but having the film on the homepage with incomplete information would rather hurt than help. Digitallysane

Did You Know? on April Fools' Day

No, no, no, no, no. I bet you don't understand how Did You Know? works on April Fools' Day, do you? --George Ho (talk) 18:17, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

This would help: Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know. --George Ho (talk) 18:18, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Another note: "...?" taken from Template:did you know nominations/? (film). I hope that is enough learning for now. --George Ho (talk) 00:09, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Crulic: The Path to Beyond

Thanks from the DYK team of Wikipedia! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amour_(2012_film)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amour_(2012_film) Originality of artwork's name is needed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amour — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.203.239.204 (talk) 16:09, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Category:Films based on works by Jin Yong

Hi, I really don't believe that your Category:Films based on works by Jin Yong is really that necessary, because all of the Category:Adaptations of works by Jin Yong's subcategories pretty much covered it. You really need to think about the necessity. I suggest that you should remove it from all the articles you've posted.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 23:07, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

The other subcategories include more things than just films. I think they complement each other well. Smetanahue (talk) 23:30, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Category:German novels and Category:French novels

Please read WP:SUBCAT before reverting. The policy is clear:

When making one category a subcategory of another, ensure that the members of the first really can be expected (with possibly a few exceptions) to belong to the second also.

That is the reason why Category:German novels and Category:Austrian novels are contained in Category:German-language novels. You could also check all subcategories in Category:English-language novels. Andreasm ^{just talk to me} 22:23, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

It's too arbitrary. Many countries have several big languages which can't be called "possibly a few exceptions". If we start to intertwine the different category branches for some countries, we would have to draw a line for how large a minority language (or the historical use of another language, like Latin) can be before the categories can't be intertwined. That line would be impossible to draw in a satisfactory way. Neither is there any immediate gain in your system - the obvious place to look for novels from a specific country is Category:Novels by country, not novels by language. Smetanahue (talk) 22:44, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

It's also problematic to only go by the articles currently in the categories. When we place Category:German novels in a category, it has to be a category that fits when we consider ALL German novels, and then there are far more than "a few exceptions" in other languages. Smetanahue (talk) 22:56, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

I understand your concern, but it is not the case for a Reductio ad absurdum, since we are not talking about Category:Indian novels, which would make no sense to categorize by language. On the other hand, there are only a handful of exceptions for German novels not being written in German. And yes there is a problem: overcategorization. For example, The Appointment is categorized as Category:Novels by Herta Müller, which in turn is categorized as Category:German novels by writer→Category:German novels→Category:German-language novels. If we contravene the above policy, then The Appointment would be categorized as Category:Novels by Herta Müller and Category:German-language novels. It would be necessary to multiply that action for all articles within the category Category:German novels. Andreasm ^{just talk to me} 23:48, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

I have opened a Request for comment related to Category:French novels and Category:German novels, in which your edits are mentioned. Andreasm ^{just talk to me} 19:14, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Imperium (Kracht novel)

Thanks for your help Victuallers (talk) 12:01, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Precious

books and films in many languages
Thank you for quality articles, from Claudio Dadómo to Life Embitters, such as Dancing Lessons for the Advanced in Age, Elective Affinities and Imperium (Kracht novel), for navboxes, redirects, and categories, for "extensive work on all the films entered into the 2010 Cannes Film Festival", for your presence in contributions alone, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Smetanahue (talk) 17:11, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Four years ago, you were recipient no. 1286 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Bernanos

I studied the book under Peter Hebblethwaite in the 1970s! Deb (talk) 08:15, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

That's nice. Bernanos needs more appreciation. Smetanahue (talk) 12:14, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

It was hard going for an 18-year-old, though. Deb (talk) 18:08, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

You read it in French I suppose? I think the most advanced thing I ever did in a French class was when we had to listened to some goatherds doing weird chants. Thanks for your addition to the article by the way. I've been starting a lot of articles on French literature, but they rarely go beyond the most basic info so any expansion is really appreciated. Smetanahue (talk) 19:46, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK for The Tragedy of Man (film)

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is that Lorado Taft thing with the brackets to you are doing? Does it generate that list of his commissions, or at least articles about them at the bottom of the page? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 19:46, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

It's a navigation box, it creates links between the articles. Smetanahue (talk) 19:49, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

well thanks for doing it, i am quite heavily invested in Taft. Carptrash (talk) 20:06, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

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Are you sure you know what you are doing? I'm not. These very drastic changes should have been discussed somewhere first. Were they? Prima facie, they are against policy, and the advantages seem unclear. Johnbod (talk) 20:20, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

What part of it are you referring to? I tried to use the same model as for categories for writers and musicians. Smetanahue (talk) 15:57, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Seriously? You are claiming you didn't realize that you were removing all normal non-hidden categories? I find that hard to believe. Look at the categories that Category:Ludwig van Beethoven is in, and what you have done to the artists. Johnbod (talk) 16:39, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

I don't see it as a big deal, so readd it if you want to. But ideally all the content in a category should match the parent categories. That's not the case when you add biographical categories to an eponymous category. WP:EPON isn't entirely written in stone and allows some exceptions, but Beethoven's category is clearly overcategorized. Smetanahue (talk) 16:57, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Seriously! That is completely a minority view, and strange reading of WP:EPON. Clearly the wider principle is that all categories should have parents. I find your blasé attitude astonishing. I really hope you will avoid editing categories in future. I will revert of many of your edits as I can, using rollback for convenience. By all means add back your (frankly pretty pointless) hidden categories if you want.

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Question about film schools

Hi Smetanahue, I see you have included film school for each entry of the Cinéfondation section of Cannes. Actually I only checked the edit history of the 2011 festival, so I'm not sure if you did all the following years. I have looked in the cinéfondcion page and archives, but I can't locate the information about the schools. Can you please let me know how we come to this information? Thanks. Hoverfish Talk 13:49, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

It's from the press release for the official selection. I can't find any real archive for it either, but here are the ones for 2009 and 2010. I found some earlier press releases too but they don't list the schools. So for the earlier ones, you might have to look at each film individually at festival-cannes.com, beginning with 1998. The school is named under "contacts" at the bottom of each film's page. Smetanahue (talk) 17:47, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

All right! Thank you the tips Smetanahue. Cheers.Hoverfish Talk 17:52, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

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You created [[category:critics of neoconservatism]] what about [[category:critics of neoliberalism]]

Jimmy Dore would clearly fall in that category as his quote of "We're not letting neoliberals fuck over the Democratic Party anymore" is typical of his program. There is supporting evidence that Jill Stein ("The answer to neofascism is stopping neoliberalism") and possibly Bernie Sanders "if New Orleans provides a lesson for the rest of the country, it is that we cannot afford the rule of bipartisan neoliberalism any longer"[1] falls in this category. Naomi Klein certainly does and Michelle Alexander has also criticised it "Alexander: I think it's critically important that the people who have been most harmed by mass incarceration, by mass deportation, by neoliberalism"[2]. Yanis Varoufakis was on Democracy Now! last Friday criticizing neoliberal policies that were destroying Greece after the 2008 crisis and his fight against elements of the financial industry embedded in the US and EU governing bodies ('My Battle With Europe’s Deep Establishment'). Those are just a few of the notable neoliberal critics. I'm noticing that most of these people's pages make no mention of neoliberal criticism. 97.85.173.38 (talk) 12:36, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

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