User talk:Shadow003

December 2012

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Flavio Briatore, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 11:16, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Flavio Briatore

I have declined your request for indefinite semi-protection: we do not protect pages pre-emptively, only in response to actual vandalism, and semi-protection would not solve the present issue, which appears to be a content dispute. There is useful advice at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Help, and I have made an entry at the relevant noticeboard, WP:BLPN#Flavio Briatore which will bring more experienced eyes to the article. Now that your changes have twice been reverted, please do not make them again, but discuss the issue on the article talk page or at the BLPN entry to try to reach WP:Consensus.

In view of your reference to lawyers and the Wikimedia Foundation, I have also made an entry on the administrators' noticeboard at WP:ANI#Legal notice, WMF involvement?. Please note our policy Wikipedia:No legal threats, though I accept that you perhaps did not intend to make one, and you have approached the Wikimedia Foundation as that policy advises.

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 13:10, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding legal notices

Hi Shadow003. I'm Dave, a volunteer here and one who is involved in our complaints systems here at Wikipedia. I understand you have contacted the foundation with a legal notice regarding our Wikipedia content of the Flavio Briatore article. Unfortunately, Wikipedia's content is driven by the Wikipedia community, not by the Foundation. However, the Wikipedia community strives to maintain accurate information on the encyclopedia. Any information should be sourced to ensure accuracy and it should be written from a neutral point of view.

If you would like some help correcting any inaccuracies, please do feel free to get in contact with us using these methods. Indeed, you can email info-en-qwikimedia.org marking it for my attention (Dave Craven) and I will help you in any way I can. Regarding the legal notice, to remove any chilling effect on the encyclopedia, please can you confirm that you understand my note and the status of the legal action. If it is ongoing, we will be required to block you from editing wikipedia for the period of the action under our no legal threats policy. This would not be a punitive block, but rather one to ensure the matter is not exacerbated on-wiki. Worm^TT(talk) 14:40, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Follow up

The previous text has been removed because it contained false and slanderous information, as it has been formally contested by Mr. Briatore’s lawyer with a letter of formal notice dated November 28, 2012 to the Wikimedia Foundation. Please contact Wikimedia Foundation for confirmation that said letter has been sent to them. The new biography we introduced in the English version of Wikipedia is in line with the biography published in the Italian version of Wikipedia. Please consider that we removed the previous biography in the Italian Wikipedia because it contained false and slanderous information (some of which was corresponding to the false and slanderous information contained in the current biography in the English Wikipedia) and we requested and obtained the semi-protection of the new biography introduced in the Italian Wikipedia. The removal of the previous text in the Italian Wikipedia was also subsequent to a letter of formal notice dated November 20, 2012 sent by Mr. Briatore’s lawyer to Wikimedia Foundation. We expect that the current biography in the English Wikipedia containing false and slanderous information is immediately replaced by the new biography introduced by us and that the new text is protected. Shadow003 ^Shadow003 17:36, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you using "we"? Wikipedia policy is an account can only be operated by a single individual. NE Ent 17:58, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The lawyers or other representatives of an individual have zero control over the contents of an article about that individual. In fact, those with WP:COI should not even edit the article. Certainly, unreferenced WP:BLP-violating text can be removed, but those with valid sources cannot and should not be removed without new WP:CONSENSUS being reached on the article talkpage. A "letter" does not over-ride sources, and such a threat will always lead to a block (✉→BWilkins←✎) 18:50, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for making legal threats or taking legal action. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia while the threats stand or the legal action is unresolved. - Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 18:38, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please keep in mind that this is not a punitive block; this is only to make sure the situation doesn't get worse, as described in this policy. We are happy to work with people to get problematic articles fixed, but we can't do it with the threat of legal action over our heads. If the Wikimedia Foundation decides that intervention is necessary (which is very rare but not unheard-of, to my knowledge), they will intervene. Until then, we have to work with what we can. If you want to discuss specific issues with the content of the article, we can discuss it on this page and try to come to an agreement. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 18:38, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]