User talk:Rjwilmsi/Archives/2010/April

Have a cookie

For unintentionally triggering my (successful) GA nomination of Selective glucocorticoid receptor agonist by bringing the article to my watchlist with this edit, I award you this cookie. Thanks! ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 20:21, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

A question

Hi Rjwilmsi, please excuse the interruption :-)

Could I just ask you what plug-in or setting you are using with AWB to achieve edits such as this?

Kind Regards -- Marek.69 ^talk 23:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

A personal custom module. In the fullness of time I would hope to release it as an AWB plugin for others to use. Rjwilmsi 07:44, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. If you do release it please let me know as I would be interested in giving it a go :-)

Kind Regards -- Marek.69 ^talk 08:12, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Help request

Hi there! I see you're proficient with AWB edits :) I'd be indebted to you, if you could you see the War on Terror article. It could use some cleanup. Thanks in advance! --JokerXtreme (talk) 12:12, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks:) So, I guess I can remove that tag now? "Its references would be clearer with a different or consistent style of citation, footnoting or external linking." --JokerXtreme (talk) 12:58, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

A question regarding a tool I am working on

Good day to you. I hope all is well where you are. I am working on making a little tool to hopefully make it easier for inexperienced editors to create biographical articles. Right now I am concentrating on military people because that is what I am most familiar with but if it works out I will expand it. I was wondering if you had any comments or suggestions about this. I understand of course that this is not a perfect solution and not without its own problems but I am trying to make it as easy as possible (given the sytem limitations in place and my own limited knowledge of wikicode). Here is a link to what I have made so far Military biography creator. I am trying to figure out a way to allow the user to input data in the front end before the article is created. For example this first screen would essentially ask for the name of the article then the next would ask a series of questions like When were they born, where where they born, etc so that when they get to the article it will have some basic info already. Again, please let me know what you think positive or negative. --Kumioko (talk) 15:19, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Deletion nomination of Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Sandbox

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RjwilmsiBot formatting citations

Hi; I've noticed that RjwilmsiBot changes "date" fields in citations to "year". However, User:SmackBot changes "year" fields in citations to "date". I see potential for conflict so I'm cross-posting this to both bot's owners. - JRBrown (talk) 01:51, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Endashes?

Why is this bot changing hyphens to endashes when signifying a range of numbers? What's wrong with plain old hyphens? Squidfryerchef (talk) 14:06, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

The rules are explained at WP:DASH. Rjwilmsi 14:26, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Which says "The following section's wording or inclusion in this policy or guideline is disputed or under discussion." Squidfryerchef (talk) 14:47, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Help to add a rule needed

I was wondering if you could help me to add a "skip if no DABlink was moved on the top" rule by using a custom module or something. I want to do a bot run using this rule. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 08:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

It turns that moving DAB links on the top is missing from genfixes manual. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:10, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to update it then! Rjwilmsi 12:40, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

My last comment was adressing manily to me. I 'll do it as soon as I am at home. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

// custom module to move DABlinks to the top of the article, skip if none moved
string ArticleText2 = MetaDataSorter.MoveDablinks(ArticleText);
Skip = (ArticleText2.Equals(ArticleText));
Summary = "DABlinks to top";
return ArticleText2;

RjwilmsiBot 3

Task approved. Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 21:04, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

List of homing endonuclease cutting sites

Your edition on this article produces an error:

Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a <references/> tag.

The problem came when you moved the section "References" from the bottom of the article to above the section "External links", because this section (External links) has a reference too.

So, I reverted your edition to solve this problem. —Flakinho (talk) 18:20, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok, great! Thank you too. Flakinho (talk) 19:23, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Strange edit

Hi, just spotted this edit which seems to be incorrect. In the first two changes I would have expected month & year parameters to be set rather than the date parameter for a month/year combination. The third change is just wrong with two date parameters entered, one of which is not a date. Keith D (talk) 22:14, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, third item was just incorrect, which I've now corrected. For the first two the date didn't show because of a second empty |date=, which I've also corrected though as you say they would strictlymonth& ye be split as |month= and |year=. I might add such month & year splitting logic to AWB in future, though the displayed result is the same. Rjwilmsi 07:22, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Please comment

Please comment here. MisterE2123Five3 (talk) 07:10, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

BBC location

Hi I noticed your edit of the link to BBC news (in the article Project_Prevention) included a location (london), just curious as I use BBC as a reference a lot whether that is the offical location to place for the bbc? or does it come down to region it was produced in? or whether it is needed at all (seeing as BBC news is one of the biggest worldwide news agencys Edw400 (talk) 12:07, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Another user complained about |location= for the BBC, so I don't set it any more, but I think it is London on the basis that that's the HQ of the BBC. Certainly for international stories I think it is useful since it explains that it may be the UK perspective on the story; for local news it may not be of so much use. Rjwilmsi 12:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Central Intelligence Agency Office of Inspector General

thanks Decora (talk) 13:50, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Bot

Bot making pages inconsistent. I've noticed numerous edits on my Watchlist by this bot recently (is it new?). Firstly I don't like the fact it adds locations. It is fairly harmless if the changes are unilateral, but it also seems fairly pointless. Would it really be worth adding location=Washington to a reference about the Washington Post. This would echo the trend of not putting publisher=Washington Post Company for a reference that has work=Washington Post and is something I have been advised of in featured content candidacies. My bigger gripe are edits like this. The bot has (apparently randomly) changed a few references to cite news. This makes them unconsistent as now for information sourced from the same place, by the same author there are now to styles.

Murray, Scott (12 November 2008). "Why the League Cup still has its place in English football". The Guardian. London: Guardian Media Group. Retrieved 1 September 2009.

Murray, Scott (26 June 2009). "The Joy of Six: Extinct football competitions". The Guardian. London: Guardian Media Group. Retrieved 29 August 2009.

Can you explain why this comes about, and hopefully prevent it from happening in future. Thanks, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 11:12, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

So I think you've asked about:

1. locations, then work vs publisher
2. cite news

So to answer:

1. |location= is added when the location is not in the publication's name per the {{cite news}} documentation. This means that no location is set for the Washington Post, but it's set for The Guardian and others.
2. The bot's logic is to change {{cite web}} to {{cite news}} for citations that it updates (which are all news citations), since {{cite news}} is the most appropriate template. Your comment raises a point that I hadn't considered, so I'll update the bot so that if it changes any {{cite web}}s it will change all of them for the news sources it supports. Thanks Rjwilmsi 17:44, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your clear explanation and swift reply and I appreciate you taking my second comment further. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 17:58, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Locations

The Guardian's official registered head office is in Manchester, not London. Where are you getting these locations from ? Racklever (talk) 20:46, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

London's listed in the infobox on The Guardian. Rjwilmsi 20:58, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

I, too, see no point in edits like this. The location is unnecessary, it adds nothing helpful to the encyclopedia and is particularly useless if the publisher is wiki-linked; and why did it pick just 3 of the citations from an article with nearly 100? The bot also added the incorrect author and that's worse than having no author at all. Anyway, I've reverted that edit so perhaps when the bot is fixed it can have another go. Astronaut (talk) 23:08, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for notifying me of the author error. I've fixed the problem and will review previous edits to see if any other articles were affected. All |location= setting is per the {{cite news}} documentation; if you disagree with the documentation the template's talk page is the right place to discuss it. Rjwilmsi 09:16, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Per the {{cite news}} documentation, the location parameter "Should be included if the city of publication is not part of the name of the newspaper". That makes sense to me; there are lots of Times and Daily Heralds out there. On the other hand, this is an optional parameter, which permits discretion; thus, for example, while USAToday doesn't include a city name, it's not actually published in a city in the way that the vast majority of newspapers are, so including the location does not - in my opinion - add any significant value. The same is true with the Wall Street Journal. (In other words, I disagree with Astronaut, but still think some judgment is best here.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 14:57, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

John Broughton: I'm not setting a location for USA today. You seem to be telling me to do what I'm currently doing. Rjwilmsi 17:16, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Apologies for any misunderstanding. I was simply trying to mention another example of where the parameter is optional. I'm glad that you and I don't disagree on this. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 17:09, 29 April 2010 (UTC)