User talk:Realist2/Archive 35

Re: Colors

I used the colors of the Wikipedia categorys, for example, Studio Album is blue ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_(album) ), greatest hits is green ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Their_Greatest_Hits_(1971%E2%80%931975) ) etc... also if they are more dark than colors of the List of Best Sellers. Where i can find the list of color codes for to post the colors more dark?Simone Jackson (talk) 15:21, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of colors will help you. — R ² 13:27, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you :-) Simone Jackson (talk) 15:53, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thought

You've probably already thought about it, but once your done with HIStory, you could nominate it and it's singles for WP:GT. You could use the HIStory sculpture as the free image. Pyrrhus16 14:43, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I will do. I'm a little unsure of the topics scope though. Will Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory in the Mix ans it's own singles be inside the scope of the topic? If so, what about the Ghosts film? I'm almost certain the remix album is within the scope. — R ² 14:54, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I think BOTDF, it's singles and Ghosts could also be included in the HIStory topic. If articles are allowed in more than one topic, then I could see a Michael Jackson videography GT, with all the stand-alone films/music videos; Ghosts, Thriller, Captain EO and Moonwalker. Pyrrhus16 15:26, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's also a possibility. — R ² 17:03, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unrealiable source?

Realist, La Repubblica is one of the most important newspaper in Italy and MenStyle is the most important site of fashion in Italy. They are absolutely realiable sources.Simone Jackson (talk) 13:41, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, my bad about the newspaper, that's fine. But a fashion site is not qualified to document sales of albums. — R ² 12:04, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, now sobstitute with a link of another important Newspaper that claims 32 million copies worldwide for Dangerous.Simone Jackson (talk) 14:27, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Revert

Thanks for the talkpage revert! CarpetCrawler^{message me} 19:05, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. — R ² 19:44, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Sweeps invitation

Hello, I hope you are doing well. I am sending you this message since you are a member of the GA WikiProject. I would like to invite you to consider helping with the GA sweeps process. Sweeps helps to ensure that the oldest GAs still meet the criteria, and improve the quality of GAs overall. Unfortunately, last month only two articles were reviewed. This is definitely a low point after our peak at the beginning of the process when 163 articles were reviewed in September 2007. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. All exempt and previously reviewed articles have already been removed from the list. Instead of reviewing by topic, you can consider picking and choosing whichever articles interest you.

We are always looking for new members to assist with the remaining articles, so if you are interested or know of anybody that can assist, please visit the GA sweeps page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. If only 14 editors achieve this feat starting now, we would be done with Sweeps! Of course, having more people reviewing less articles would be better for all involved, so please consider asking others to help out. Feel free to stop by and only review a few articles, something's better than nothing! Take a look at the list, and see what articles interest you. Let's work to complete Sweeps so that efforts can be fully focused on the backlog at GAN. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 08:40, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

4 minutes

The article 4 Minutes has a section where critics have compared the music video with MJ's "Thriller". Can the MJ wikiproject be used in the talk page then? --Legolas ^(talk2me) 12:29, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, no need for that, it's don't noteworthy to Michael Jackson's life. — R ² 13:04, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In which case, while I'm here (Hi, btw!) would the MJ wikiproject tag belong on the "Torture (The Jacksons song)" page? I would think so, especially because of the wax dummy controversy. CarpetCrawler^{message me} 15:58, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Currently Jackson 5/Jackson's related material falls outside the scope of WP:MJJ, odd I know...— R ² 16:24, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like...

We have got fans! And I got a boyfriend!!! I can only say We Belong Together. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:46, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's quite hard for me to understand a word he is saying, is this Dance-pop by any chance? — R ² 13:05, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Both Legolas and I are pretty sure that this is Dance-pop. A lot of hints are being dropped by the user that is accidentally revealing themselves. However, we have assumed good faith. Hersfold recommended we file a SPI. I personally don't know how to do that, so I haven't even touched that. I assume Legolas will file one when he feels the time is right. CarpetCrawler^{message me} 06:37, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Probably so. I really wish there was a better way of stopping sock puppetry. One of the reasons I gave up monitoring the Lady Gaga articles. These days I just stick to her main biography. — R ² 10:30, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Great report

Here. Well done! Rodhull andemu 22:27, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers. :D — R ² 12:41, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Any Help?

Hi there. How have you been? Haven't spoken to you in a while.

I've seen your work and have been impressed, and I was wondering, if you're not too busy, if you could give me a little hand with an article. Right now, my main issue is writing about the music/song structure/composition etc. I have all the information (fixyourmix, LATimes and The Times). I'll get back to you with a sort of rough draft, if possible, and if you can help at all, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Orane (talk) 06:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm good thanks. Sure, I can help any time after May 21. Real life issues at the moment. After that I'll happily chip in. I'll add it to my to do list as a priority. — R ² 12:41, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That is on hold, for now. Thank you for reminding me though. I'm sick from the flu (regular flu! lol) and I can't even think straight. Never been sick before, and now I'm bed-ridden for a week and a half (the worst part is that I'm unable to go to the gym <sigh>). I'll let you know when it's on. Thanks. Orane (talk) 03:00, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Vitiligo

Hey Realist, unfortunately May and June are insanely busy for me and I'm unlikely to find time here until at least July. Would that be okay for you? Regards, --—Cyclonenim | Chat 18:49, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

July is cool, I'm free all summer, except late August when I go to see Michael Jackson in concert :) — R ² 19:01, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks dude

..for reviewing "Miles Away". It passed its GA review. Yeahh. You are a really good help Realist. Thanks again. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 12:07, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem :D — R ² 12:19, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, did you hear Gaga and Rihanna's duet single "Silly Boy". Its a killer tune seriously!! Also Madonna's new song "Revolver" has leaked! She's going bak to the dance floor again! --Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That article has been nominated for deletion. It's only a demo and was not performed by either artist. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 06:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ya obviously it will be nominated. Same for Silly Boy. I was talking about the tunes. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:12, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edits to Thriller 25

Hello Your reversion created a non-standard infobox type for this album. Please do not change this. If you need to respond, please do so on my talk. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:56, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Double albums in List of Best selling albums

Why it's not needed to signal the double albums in the list? Simone Jackson (talk) 20:37, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why is there a need? We don't signal any other form of album. — R ² 19:15, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Because the double album has got a major price that penalise its sales. For this reason the RIAA counts the double albums for double. Simone Jackson (talk) 15:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

US criteria for certification have nothing to do with worldwide sales. You can't compare the two. We are not here to say HIStory "only" sold 20 million because it was expensive but a Britney Spears album sold loads of copies because it was half price. It's irrelevant, that's not what the list is for. — R ² 13:11, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Digtal Spy

Please explain to me why Digital Spy reviews are not professional. Showtime2009 (talk) 02:04, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poker Face talk

Can you come there? One user is continuously adding OR while replacing a verifiable link of Daily Star which is a RS. That user may be correct but we simply donot have a link to support it. This resulted in the article being unstable hence a GA reassessment has been initiated. Can you please take a look? --Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:52, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll pop on over there later today. — R ² 07:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please take a look. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 12:37, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shameless thankspam

FlyingToaster Barnstar

Hello Realist2! Thank you so much for your support in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of 126/32/5. I am truly humbled by the trust you placed in me, and will endeavor to live up to that trust. Flying Toaster

Source for "They Don't Care About Us"

I came a cross a web site that gives References about Michael Jackson shooting several scenes in Salvador,Brazil. If you watched the video already than you will see that most of the scenes were shot in Pelourinho, a District in Salvador,brazil. here's the link to the web site Olodum Is Bahia BigBossBlues (talk) 08:24, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if this article meets the requirements of WP:RS. I will post the link on the reliable sources notice board and see what some of the experts in referencing think. Thanks for your patience in this matter, I'll let you know their opinion asap. — R ² 00:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I found what could be a Source website. here it is Michael Jackson Action. BigBossBlues (talk) 01:00 am, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Realist2 I found proof that Michael Jackson was filming in downtown Salvador and Rio de Janeiro. here's the link Michael Jackson They Don't Care About Us amateur version on set ULTRA RARE. this was the amateur version of They Don't Care About Us video.BigBossBlues (talk) 10:42 am, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Replied on your page. — R ² 14:53, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've got

..tickets for this!!!!! Yeahhhh. August 3, here I come!!! --Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:41, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, snap! That's the date I'm going. You might notice me, I've bought myself a "Beat It" jacket for the occasion. :) Pyrrhus16 09:50, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OMG, yay, but my concert aint till August 26. — R ² 12:24, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OMG OMG!! Really !!! You all are going ?? I got this jacket specially for this!! Maybe you can see me too! By the way I also got tickets for the second leg of this. Didn't wanna miss it this time. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:30, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

PS. If you get time go through this. Its amazing and has so much info that you will indeed go Ga Ga. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:13, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ive got some--Mjlouisdbz14 (talk) 10:32, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kitty!

The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) has given you a kitten! Kittens promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Kittens must be fed three times a day and will be your faithful companion forever! Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a kitten, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

Spread the goodness of kittens by adding {{subst:Kitten}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message!

If this kitten doesn't make your heart melt, then you sir, are inhuman! The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 21:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is indeed cute :D — R ² 02:00, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ryantheappleguy

I actually blocked this vandal, and edit conflicted with you when giving them a block notice. After those edits to Lady Gaga, I didn't think they were here to be constructive. Do you object to my block? Acalamari 02:25, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No not at all, with out a doubt a vandal only account, if not a sock puppet. If he apologizes and promises not to do it again we could give him another chance. — R ² 02:33, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was about to respond to this last night but wasn't able to. Thank you for your response: I would have no objection to having them unblocked if they were to apologize, but there doesn't appear to any reqeuest for unblock. In addition, it seems that the Lady Gaga article has just been semi-protected which is good. Thanks. Acalamari 15:58, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Peer review/Billie Jean/archive2

I've opened another peer review and invited the opposers from Billie Jean's FAC to comment. I was able to find a gif file for the moonwalk. Anyway, feel free to invite any additional reviewers. :) Pyrrhus16 15:01, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome, will do. :) — R ² 15:04, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ThankSpam

My RfA

Thank you for participating in my "RecFA", which passed with a final tally of 153/39/22. There were issues raised regarding my adminship that I intend to cogitate upon, but I am grateful for the very many supportive comments I received and for the efforts of certain editors (Ceoil, Noroton and Lar especially) in responding to some issues. I wish to note how humbled I was when I read Buster7's support comment, although a fair majority gave me great pleasure. I would also note those whose opposes or neutral were based in process concerns and who otherwise commented kindly in regard to my record.
I recognise that the process itself was unusual, and the format was generally considered questionable - and I accept that I was mistaken in my perception of how it would be received - but I am particularly grateful for those whose opposes and neutrals were based in perceptions of how I was not performing to the standards expected of an administrator. As much as the support I received, those comments are hopefully going to allow me to be a better contributor to the project. Thank you. Very much. LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:31, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

~~~~~

Lily allen

Are you one of the people that does Lily Allen's wiki page. If you are I have something interesting in which you put under the title Social Persona. Lily like her father is a Fulham FC fan. Here is the website page which gives you the information. http://www.showbizspy.com/article/185709/lily-allen-hates-british-football. Thanks. 80.195.21.194 (talk) 22:11, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't actually edit the page other than revert vandalism/unsourced info. Thanks for the link, I'm just not sure it's notable enough to be included in the biography. — R ² 09:09, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

madonna (entertainer) clean up

I have cleaned up Madonna and also updated the recent Mercy James adoption fiasco. But I believe the Personal life title is a little to against BLP don't you think so? can you think of something else? The DAvid Banda adoption has been changed to Adoption from Malawi. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:01, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Jackson videography

Do you think that other videos Michael Jackson has appeared in, such as "We Are the World" in 1985 and "Whatzupwitu" with Eddie Murphy in 1993 should be included? I somehow feel the page is missing something by not mentioning these at all... Ss 112 11:29, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me

I thought I'd note that Madonna isn't the first celebrity that user attacked. Robert Wagner got similar treatment on Talk:Natalie Wood re: Wood's death. This is winding down to requesting a ban I think. Wildhartlivie (talk) 11:41, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Be Not Always..."

Hi there! Just dropping by to say, "hi"! What's up? I am very close to nomination NJR for a FAN... very very close. Honestly all I need to do is see if the quoteboxes are fixed up, and what Closedmouth will say to the question I asked him. How about you? CarpetCrawler^{message me} 23:03, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm good, link me up when you send it over to FAC. — R ² 10:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Paparazzi video

OMG check the Paparazzi video!! Its an epic! --Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:31, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Epic indeed :) — R ² 10:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here we go

tries to take a deep breath... ... here we go. CarpetCrawler^{message me} 03:30, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I have it watchlisted :D — R ² 09:06, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can't believe I actually thought it would be a great idea. No wonder people don't nominate articles for FAN anymore. Nothing makes you more interested in wanting to fully work on your article than snark comments like "Good thing Tony hasn't reviewed this yet...", and "For example, take a look at how the article strives desperately to achieve narrative flow in the Production section" *eye roll*. Because really, I was DESPERATELY trying to achieve narrative flow, I was up all night doing that. I'd withdraw now but I'd rather hear if anyone has any more comments before I do. CarpetCrawler^{message me} 20:12, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pink Floyd

Michael Jackson's Thriller sold not over 100 million copies. Pink Floyds' Dark Side of The Moon on the other hand sold at least over 45 million copies. The source is reliable. So there's no reason to make war edits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.198.67.201 (talk) 12:25, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not edit warring, the source simply does not comply with WP:RS, that's the end of the issue. — R ² 10:09, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject

Hey Real. Do you know how can I start a Wikiproject on Madonna? I was thinking if you could just give me some guidance. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:38, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When I set up the Janet Jackson project I just copied all the pages from the Michael Jackson project. I made identical copies of everything just changing Michael to Janet. It's quite easy but time consuming. I don't believe we should start a project for Madonna unless there is enough interest from editors. I will join if it's set up obviously. — R ² 08:44, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Tracklisting

will try my best. was about to paste disc 1 but accidentally deleted it :(...so it should b done by friday. MaJic (talk) 16:01, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, no rush. :D — R ² 16:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ok. like the sig? MaJic (talk) 17:10, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice. :) — R ² 17:12, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

		All Around Amazing Barnstar
		For all of the help, kindness, and support I have received throughout our work together on No Jacket Required, I award you this barnstar. Though unfortunately the FAN will most likely not go through, it was, is, and will always be a privilege to have worked with you on the article. Without your guidance and support, I doubt the article would have looked anywhere near as good as it does now, let alone even have a chance to be a featured article. With your help and guidance, I was able to turn an article from a GA to a very close FAC, which is something that is no easy task for an article about an album. Although the article won't pass its FAN, I want to thank you for your help and support, and hope that in the future, we can fix the concerns that were left to us by the users at the FAN page, and give it another go. Thanks again. You friend, CarpetCrawler^{message me} 19:46, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, this might just be the best barnstar I have ever had :D. We will get that article featured eventually, don't give up. — R ² 20:04, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Scream

Will take a closer look. Although at a random look the music video images seemed failing WP:NFCC#8. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:56, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Invincible

did u hear about this? a fan bought a re-issued copy of the album and it had a modified intro to Unbreakable. interesting. MaJic (talk) 08:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Never heard that before. — R ² 12:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ill try to send you an link when u get on aim. MaJic (talk) 21:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment

Re: merging of by-year number-one songs/albums lists: Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates#Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Hot 100 number-one singles of 2007 (Canada) (2nd nomination). Thanks, see U around! - eo (talk) 09:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. — R ² 12:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Dangerous (Michael Jackson song)

On June 9, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dangerous (Michael Jackson song), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Mifter (talk) 09:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. — R ² 12:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gaga LEAD

Did you have a chance to take a look at the LEAD for the Lady Gaga article? Share your opinions. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 10:44, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Commented and watchlisted. — R ² 14:09, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Phil Collins

I agree, the article looks really bad. And I agree that it's not even GA standard now. That is the problem when the cosensus changes about what is a FA and what isn't. Every now and then I've added some sourced things, and I'm pretty sure his early and personal life is sourced well, it's just his career that needs some touching up. Of course, that is the hardest part of ANY musician article... I'll see what I can do, but I can make no guarantees. It's a pretty big article. The Genesis article was thankfully taken to a FAR a few years after it became a featured article, so the active contributors to the original FAC were able to work on it. I don't even think those people are even around anymore. It's a shame, too, because the article looks really nice in certain spots, and it has potential. CarpetCrawler^{message me} 16:51, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Im out

hi dear. Im hospitalised for the last few days due to an accident. I just logged in through my brother's laptop to ask a favour. Please can you watchlist the Gaga articles untill Wednesday? I'll be discharged by then. I guess you know the amount of crappy additions that goes in these articles (bio + songs + album + tour). Just for these few days only. Please. :( --Legolas ^(talk2me) 00:41, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll watchlist them until your back properly. I hope you get well soon. ;( — R ² 00:43, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Hope I'll be back soon. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 01:10, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tell Me

CAN YOU FEEL IT?!? MaJic (talk) 09:09, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's quite a collection. — R ² 12:07, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lady GaGa Discography

http://acharts.us/song/37372 and acharts is a reliable source so please stop reverting. NinjaChucks (talk) 12:39, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That wasn't the source being used in the article though. — R ² 12:40, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're also in violation of wikipedia's 3RR rule. NinjaChucks (talk) 12:41, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm being WP:BOLD, Wikipedia would crumble into a mess if we didn't revert unsourced content. That said, the Billboard link should update itself soon, so I'll leave it. — R ² 12:44, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes and so is everyone else, anyway the links will update soon like you said so are we in agreement of leaving the peaks at the new peak and just leaving them? NinjaChucks (talk) 12:46, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. — R ² 12:47, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Phil Spector

I'm going to reverse your edit again. What you are doing is vandalism and it is not appreciated here at Wikipedia. It IS a likely life sentence - actuarially, it is highly unlikely that he will live to be 88. I acknowledge that you are angry that your previous revert was reverted - and with links. Now you feel hurt. Wikipedia does not need your sorts of edits. I see from your background that you are interested in music - and I have no problem with that - I mean, I wouldn't dare try to change an edit to something that has to do with music - why? - because I don't know that much about it (although I used to play trombone). While you may be familiar with music, you obviously are not familiar with the details of the Phil Spector case or you would not have made your original revert - I mean, it's well known that he is only eligible for parole at age 88 (and that it is a effectively a life sentence unless he beats the actuarial tables). I mean, all you had to do was Google the point in question - but you didn't do that - you decided to make an edit about something you are not familiar with, and then was pedantic about it not being sourced - I really didn't think twice about this since it is so well known. But by your reasoning, we should delete Spector's middle name at the top of the entry - why? - because it is not sourced. In fact, a lot of the article is not sourced. But I you like the guy and so became peevish about the sentence that got put in - that's what it looks like - if that is the case, you are not serving Wikipedia very. I see you have made tens of thousands of edits - I can only assume that you are one of these busybodies who likes to spend hours and hours and hours zooming around Wikipedia, from page to page to page, reverting edits that you don't like or don't understand. I don't do that - I make very few edits - I won't make an edit on a topic that I do not understand the underlying subject matter. Wikipedia would be better served if everybody followed this etiquette. I am willing to allow your edit if you can show how he has a actuarial likelihood of living to his parole date.

Please read WP:CRYSTAL, it's that plain and simple. I do not care for Phil Spector, only our WP:BLP policy. — R ² 15:31, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's also an impermissible synthesis of sources, and I have advised the IP editor of this. Rodhull andemu 15:37, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Why am I always perceived to be "defending" the "unpopular" people :(. — R ² 15:39, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello (:

may i have your aim screenname or other form of communication? I'd like to discuss with you .. it won't take very long, I think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Impracticable (talk • contribs) 01:41, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can email me via Wikipedia email, here. — R ² 02:01, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Jackson This Is It

Jonathan Moffett confirmed via facebook he is in rehearsals doing the This Is It shows with Michael. Please DO NOT revert my edits back. Facebook cannot be "cited" here due to privacy restrictions. Refer to Jonathan Moffett's facebook profile for more information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.30.123.108 (talk) 02:35, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unless there is notable third party coverage it cannot go in the article. If the mainstream press are not discussing it then it lacks notability and can't go in the article. — R ² 02:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

From j. moffett himself on facebook:

Jonathan Phillip Moffett APPRECIATING CONTRIBUTING TO THE "M. J." EXPERIENCE COMING TO THE WORLD SOON!!! IT'S MY " 30TH " ANNIVERSARY OF BEING WITH MICHAEL JACKSON, THE JACKSONS, AND THE JACKSON FAMILY. I AM VERY PROUD OF THE ASSOCIATION WITH AND IN " MY FAMILY " ON THE WEST COAST! I CHERISH THE TIMES AND MOMENTS WE HAVE SHARED, AND SHARED WITH THE WORLD. " GET READY WORLD, . . .WE'RE COMING"!!!!! PREPARE YOURSELVES FOR THE "THRILLER"_April 24 at 12:27am · Comment · LikeUnlike · Show Feedback (14)Hide Feedback (14)

you can add him here: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=560150632&ref=ts —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.30.123.108 (talk) 03:16, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kylie Minogue

I agree with you - it's in need of an overhaul, and I think it's fallen victim to a lot of recentism. I've noticed that all the quotes have been italicized recently, and that's not right. I'll have a look at it. It has a "too long" tag on it, and I think that's probably a fair call too. I hope you don't mind if I come back to you for second opinions if I start to attack it. I know Kylie's probably not your thing, like you said you watch it for vandalism, but it's always helpful to have someone impartial to give an opinion. Thanks for drawing my attention to it. Rossrs (talk) 08:52, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]