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Your edits to Myxomatosis

Welcome and thanks for your recent contributions to the myxamotosis article. However, you shouldn't just revert the contributions of other editorsto your preferred verison. Nor should you make edits without reading the article. You have done this in your latest edits, and as a result you have duplicated large amounts of information.

There are a few Wikipedia policies you should familiarise yourself with. The most important are WP:BRD and WP:3RR. In short form, when you make an edit and someone removes it, don't just reinstate it. Instead, start a discussion on the article talk page. If you reinstate the material more than three times, you will be blocked from editing.

As far as your actual edits, they are good, but this is a global English encyclopaedia, not a US encylopaedia. See WP:GLOBAL. The US isn't exceptional and doesn't deserve special mention just for being the US. As a general rule of thumb, if the article couldn't handle material of the same level of detail for all 120 odd nations on the planet, don't add it for the US. IOW, this article clearly wouldn't be readable if we had hundreds of words on the disease in Canada, Mexico, Slovakia, Fiji etc. So unless there is something highly notable about the US, please don't create a US specific section. We have sections on Australia in this article because it is commonly and notably held up as a globally relevant example of succesful biological control. The treatment and spread of the disease in US domestic/feral rabbits isn't particularly differrent from anywhere else on the planet and so isn't obviously notable. That the disease is native to the US is notable and has been retained in the appropriate parts of the article.

Thanks for yourcontributions, keep up the good work, but please familiarise yourself with the rules of Wikipedia to avoid irritating other contributors andpotentially being nlocked from editingMark Marathon (talk) 23:44, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mark,

Sorry if I am a bit clumsy with editing, this is the first time I have tried it. I was in the middle of clarifying some points, and got called away for an hour. I see now that I should not do editing on the live site, but on a word document on by computer so that I can insert the finished product all at once.

I am a veterinarian that works with rabbits. My patients are currently dying from this disease. I was trying to add a section on North America because no one here knows about the disease. It has gotten so much more press in Australia and England! I am certainly not trying to remove content, just add to it. But in reorganizing it I have incurred your wrath I see.

Why can I not add a section on North America? There already exists sections on Australia, New Zealand, England, France, and Ireland. Are we not worthy? I did not put it under the "population control' heading because the disease here is endemic.

Please respond. I do want to add a section on North America, but don't want to be blocked by you.

Thank you,

Rabbit Vet (talk) 00:17, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Wrath" is a litle melodramatic. Mildy irked perhaps.And I'm not blocking anyone, I'm just an editor like yourself. I'm just trying to provide some advice so you don't get blocked. We need more knowledgable editors, and being given an offical slap on the wrist bythe admins or getting into arguments and unknowingly breaking the rules tends to drive people away.

As far as having a US specific section, as I said above, Wikipedia already has a heavy US bias, and the general rule of thumb is that if an article can't handle similar knformation for 120 other nations, then you shouldn't add it for one country. As already noted above,Australia is inherently different and notable on this subject, which is why it has its own section, and indeed its own national article on rabbits. I personally don't see how the disease in the US is particularly different from the disease in Canada or Fiji or any of 100 other nations. It seems like any US specific material is applicable to every nation where the disease exists. That means it would need to be replicated across separate sections for every nation.

The article already has a section on treatment,and if you have references that suggest that treatment in the US is particularly different and notable,you could drop material in there.

Please note that this is all my opinion. I don't have any more status at Wikipedia than you do. The only diference is that I have been around long enough to learn the rules. If you really think that the disease in the US is sufficently different and notable to deserve its own section in the article, then please make your case on the article's talk page. If you like I will start that section for you. Wikipedia works by consenus, and if you can convince most editors that you are correct, then the material will be added. You might even convince me.

IOW, just becaue I don't think a US section is warranted doesn't mean I'm correct. But we do have rules for how to resolve these disagreemennts, and the first step is always to lay out your case on the talk page. I know this can be annoying and time consuming when you have a real job, but we have millions of editors and the place would be utter chaos without doing that.

PS, if you add a colon before you past messages on talk pages, it indents. If add one more colon than the last editor, it makes the conversation easier to follow

Once again, thanks for your contributions.Mark Marathon (talk) 02:35, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mark, thanks for teaching me Wikipedia conventions.

The section I wanted to add wss on North America, i.e. Mexico, Canada, and the United States. This area has a unique strain of myxomatosis caused by the Californian myxoma virus; this is different from the South American strains introduced to Europe and Australia. It is the most pathogenic strain of all, causing acute death with few prior symptoms in European rabbits. There is no treatment, and none of these countries have the vaccine. I will start a thread on the talk page about this. Looking at that page I see that it is rated "C" in quality. I am happy to fix this problem. Thanks, Rabbit Vet (talk) 08:45, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Then please, take it to the article talk page so we can get consensus. there is no point you and I discussing it and then finding that another edit has other objections. Mark Marathon (talk) 09:19, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This may help a little: Wikipedia:Expert editors. We have many many rules, but learning by doing is the way. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:14, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Improving articles

Improving articles, so that rating may be changed from C-class to B-class, or B-class to Good Article, is an admirable goal. I have made thousands of edits to this end in my own field (nutrition), including a few raised to GA. A small point here - good practice is to improve the article, but leave the decision to change the rating to someone else. Otherwise, you are just grading your own work. For B to GA this is a requirement: editors improve articles, and then submit those to the GA review process, which means that a reviewing editor will recommend changes (often scores of changes) before deciding on GA or not. If possible, avoid citing your own work (difficult for experts in their area of expertise), as you may have a conscious or unconscious bias toward one theory over another. Do not add content without references, meaning to come back later with the references, as other editors will not know your intent. Instead, do the work-in-progress in your Sandbox, then copy it into the article. David notMD (talk) 11:36, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks David that is very helpful! Rabbit Vet (talk) 09:43, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Asking other editors to refrain from editing an article is contrary to Wikipedia principles. Basically, no one "owns" an article or pulls rank based on their (self-claimed) expertise. The problem this raises is that generalists are prioritizing adhering to Wikipedia rules while the specialists want to add information they know to be true. So, no original research, no inserting true statements without providing citations, no asking other editors to lay off while you fix stuff. Ech edit has to be a defendable improvement to the article. Disputes belong in Talk, but not no-trespassing signs. David notMD (talk) 02:28, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, Mark Marathon, who was reverting some of your edits, has been indefinitely blocked for disruptive editing. David notMD (talk) 00:12, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi David, thanks for letting me know! That should make everything much easier. :-) Rabbit Vet (talk) 02:11, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

While we don't have a "keep of my article", we do have a "just so you know, I'm currently working hard on this article", see Template:Under construction. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:25, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Duly noted. I changed my wording accordingly. Thanks! Rabbit Vet (talk) 17:41, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Your GA nomination of Myxomatosis

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Hello Chiswick Chap! Thanks so much for taking a look at this article. It previously had a poor rating (C), and I have been working hard to bring it up to snuff. I am new to Wikipedia editing, and appreciate all your input. Best, Rabbit Vet (talk) 22:06, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. The place to respond is on the article's GAN page (Talk:Myxomatosis/GA1) and of course in the article itself. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:56, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Preview

Hi there, looks like you have been quite busy improving articles! Just wanted to give you a friendly reminder that the "preview" button is extremely useful for avoiding formatting errors (I just fixed a few at Myxomatosis) - no big deal, it's just a good habit to get into. Cheers, and thanks for all your contributions! Jessicapierce (talk) 17:37, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also, if there's anything I can help with, pesky formatting issues or anything else, feel free to drop me a line. :) Jessicapierce (talk) 17:38, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Jessica! I am new to Wikipedia and not a computer person, so some of the formatting confuses me. Thanks for fixing my goofs! Best, Rabbit Vet (talk)

Your GA nomination of Myxomatosis

The article Myxomatosis you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Myxomatosis for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:02, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for taking the time to walk me through this process! I have learned a lot, and the page is much improved as a result. You are awesome! :-) Rabbit Vet (talk)

That's very kind of you. I suspect that the article ought to go through further development and Wikipedia review (say at FAC) before you go for the full peer-review at WikiJournal of Science, however. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:29, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't have thought to submit to the WikiJournal of Science but received an email inviting me to do so. Perhaps they want to start a veterinary section. Thanks! Rabbit Vet (talk)

OK, well why not then. I'm on the board but won't be involved other than perhaps minor copy-editing. I see the article's at FAC also, certainly a good thing. It's a considerably pickier process than GAN, involving multiple editors to ensure a polished result. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:05, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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	Great job bringing Myxomatosis up to GA! It's great when subject-matter experts learn how to contribute :) Enwebb (talk) 02:15, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Enwebb! I appreciate the nod. I made every mistake in the book while learning how to do it, but got there in the end. Now I'm off to edit other pages! :-) Rabbit Vet (talk)

Oh, believe me, you did not. Well done and good luck! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:29, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Image discussion

Hi, is there any reason for deleting these comments or was there a mistake? Graham Beards (talk) 16:06, 31 March 2020 (UTC) [1][reply]

Beat me to it. I'm going with mistake, I've reinserted. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oops! Sorry did not realize I did that. Mistake for sure. Thanks for catching that. :-)Rabbit Vet (talk) 19:50, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (October 27)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:

Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at Myxomatosis instead.

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KylieTastic (talk) 22:33, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi KylieTastic,

I know that there is a general article on myxomatosis, because I wrote it! But that article is mostly about the South American virus, which is quite distinct from the North American virus.

If you'd like I can go back to the first article and edit it to only include information about the South American strain.

The reason I wrote a second page is that due to differences it was very hard to write generalizations of about the disease and be correct.

Thanks! Rabbit Vet (talk) 00:36, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I notice that the tool failed to update the article anyway as you moved it at the exact same time - never had that happen before! It would not be correct to change Myxomatosis to just be about south America as most readers would expect an overview on the subject under that name, and it also about our Europe and Australia. If California Myxomatosis is a separate sub subject then that should be what the lead starts with and make it clear it is a sub article and not just replicate Myxomatosis just rewritten for those only interested in North America. General information about it should be at Myxomatosis, then normally you would have a small sub section on that about the North American sub variant with a link to an article about the North American specifics. Also note that you have just taken the content of Myxomatosis without attribution - see Wikipedia:Attribution and Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. KylieTastic (talk) 09:59, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]