User talk:RHM22/Archive 7

Seated Liberty image

I just had a quick first glance at Seated Liberty dollar. Haven't had time to do any editing but you might prefer this image to the existing obverse image (the one that is not worn in the illustration, that is] on page 96. Up to you.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:26, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

I would use that, but there doesn't seem to be any reverse image, and I think a mismatched pair might confuse some non-numismatists. By the way, I bought an old catalog today that came from Mehl's firm in Texas. It's dated 1930, so I can't use any of the images, but it's pretty neat to read through.-RHM22 (talk) 17:48, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

That is a good idea. i am still hoping to get to Colorado Springs, perhaps in early July, but things are still very much up in the air.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:25, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

I have one more subsection to do on Landis, then will call it a wrap until after my library visit Tuesday, and get to work on your article. As far as I know, Landis has no numismatic connection!--Wehwalt (talk) 20:39, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the copyedit of Gobrecht! It might have been a good idea to remove "propositioned". I certainly didn't mean to imply that anything fishy was going on at the Mint!-RHM22 (talk) 15:09, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I have been known to use sexual innuendo; I had a lot of fun with Pipe Dream (musical), set in part in a whorehouse, where I refer to the girls being exhausted from the members of the private club that took over the place for the night. Brian wanted me to scratch it. I wasn't going to do it. I consider humor a good part of writing, in the proper article. But unintentional humor is a killer.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:33, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

You probably already know about this, but there's some interesting stuff beginning on page 721 of this book.-RHM22 (talk) 18:03, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I think I read it at the time I did the double eagle. I am going to be in Cornish on Wednesday. My understanding is there's a number of models on display, which I will faithfully photograph. Once the dime gets through, one of these days I have to finish up Saint-Gaudens and Pratt gold pieces. Helps to have the images ready.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:09, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Looks good on Mercury. I didn't revert anything. Thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:03, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm finished with Mercury for the most part, and I added a hidden comment. The only other suggestion I have is that you merge the replacement section into "Production" and leave "Collecting" at the bottom of the article, since it seems to interrupt the flow a little bit. Other than that, it looks good! What do you think Weinman is working on in that photo? I can't quite make it out.-RHM22 (talk) 23:12, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Probably intentional on Weinman's part ... I could get an image of the monument in Baltimore on my way home, they moved it but it still stands. Let me look at the other things. Many thanks for your help.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:24, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

No problem!-RHM22 (talk) 01:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

On the Mehl catalog—is there a copyright notice?--Wehwalt (talk) 23:34, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I think so, unfortunately. There are quite a few interesting photos, but the prices are also something to see. Mehl was paying $1.05 for any Seated Liberty dollar in fine or better condition.-RHM22 (talk) 01:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Piker. I'd give a bit more than that. I will keep my eyes open for coin catalogues without copyright notices next time I check out a hobby section in a used bookshop.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:14, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

On another issue, I'm looking at the new coinage template. I would suggest moving the individual dates (1974 aluminum cent, 1804 dollar, etc.) to their own section within the template. Something similar was done on one of the political templates when I busted it by writing an article on an individual congressional race, which was new to them.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:48, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

• Mercury dime is at FAC. I have also greatly improved the image situation at Saint-Gaudens double eagle and it is to be regretted that it's already run on the main page. Thinking about doing that eagle next.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:07, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree about the templates. The images on Saint Gaudens look great! I've never seen some of them. I'll leave a support on Mercury. Draped Bust was also promoted!-RHM22 (talk) 22:00, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

I just saw! Many congrats. I'll play with the template when I get a chance. I had never seen some either, and I've got more images in reserve (there were about ten different models). Much better than the ones from google books. I see you nommed Gobrecht as well.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:31, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Yup! Hopefully the images won't be a problem with that.-RHM22 (talk) 15:19, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

I'll also review my books ... at the St. Gaudens site, they had an eight-minute film on the story of the double eagle, which was surprisingly fair (it did mention that each time ASG sent a model in, the relief was too high and it could not be struck in one shot). I felt it got in a cheap shot at Barber near the end, when it said "And Barber at last had his way" (or words to that effect), Barber had no choice but to do it himself with ASG dead, the President on the warpath, and no other suitable models available. Well, he did have one choice: he could have sent the models to Tiffany's for proper reduction using the Janvier reducing lathe that he and Morgan never learned to use, but I suspect he would have refused to send work outside the Mint.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:57, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, I don't think Barber would have sent anything outside the Mint that he thought he could do himself! Actually, I think he has a pretty underserved reputation today. The Barber series was undoubtedly hideous, but that's what was approved. Looking over the patterns, there are many nicer ones that he created that were ultimately rejected for whatever reason. His attitude toward new engravers left a lot to be desired, but we probably don't know the whole story about that. Obviously his work paled in comparison to greats like Saint Gaudens, but he did his job pretty well I think.-RHM22 (talk) 21:44, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

He did, and some of the commemorative pieces are very handsome. Still, he had a lot to put up with with the artists sometimes ... I see you are pulling Gobrecht. I'll go over it when I can, I am busy polishing Landis. Did you see the article in The Numismatist this month about the Liberty by the Seashore patterns?--Wehwalt (talk) 23:16, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I read that. Interesting stuff! I was hoping there might be something to include in the article, but it wasn't really related directly to the trade dollar.-RHM22 (talk) 00:19, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Some useful stuff in there on the quarter ... I will probably be back to coin articles tomorrow. Landis is done and the compulsion to polish it is wearing off, which means the varnish is dry and it's ready for prime time.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:14, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

I liked the article on the Columbian Exposition tickets too. I had heard of them, but I didn't know they had that variety.-RHM22 (talk) 20:43, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, me too. Not my field of interest but interesting. It didn't settle for me one point, which of those were "season tickets". As far as I could tell, those were all single-day admissions and I'm sure there were season tickets. By the way, I've started work on Indian Head eagle in my sandbox, not as interesting as the double eagle but still interesting.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:09, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

The IHE has a nice design as well. I think I'm going to expand the article on the Columbian Exposition half dollar, maybe changing it to "Columbian Exposition Commemorative Coins" so I can include the Isabella quarter. I have lots of images that would be perfect for that article.-RHM22 (talk) 22:07, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, and all that are left in the Great Recoinage is the three lesser gold pieces, the quarter, and the half. Might as well clean them up chronologically. This will probably go to FAC after Landis. I agree, that sounds like a worthy project. I never have been one for classic commemoratives; I've bought a few modern over the years, mostly from the Mint, most of which did suckily until the price rises in precious metals and now are just fine thank you very much.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:20, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

A few of the most hideous modern commemoratives (and that's saying something) have gone up in price pretty nicely, probably because nobody bought them from the Mint. I think the Jackie Robinson gold is valued somewhere in the thousands now. What do you think about the upcoming ATB hockey pucks? I must admit that I'll be buying at least a couple of them, on speculation. They're rather ugly and ridiculous, but the 2010 mintage for the uncirculated is only 27,000, so I'm expecting some serious price increases for those down the line. The bullion ones are only around 30,000, so they'll probably go some place too. Those ugly Constitution platinum bullion coins might be a good bet also, since the mintages are very low for most of them.-RHM22 (talk) 01:10, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, everyone is kicking themselves for not buying ... I am thinking of buying on the ATB front as well, after all, I've never seen one as an actual quarter outside mint sets and dealer stock.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:36, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm still hoping to find one in change. I know there are a lot of bad stories going around about the economy, but when our quarter dollar has five ounces of silver in it, the economy can't be too bad. By the way, do you know anyone that downloaded the Breen book when it was free online a couple of years ago? Like an idiot, I didn't bother saving it because I thought it would stay free. I learned my lesson from that! I have the Mint reports transferred to a series of CDs.-RHM22 (talk) 01:45, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I guess the hockey pucks would be hard on vending machines and arcade devices ... I just ordered the one Yosemite I'm allowed. No, I don't know anyone, alas I do not keep in touch with that many fellow numismatists. Well done on the CDs, I will when I get the chance using that fix you showed.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:58, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I ordered the Yosemite too. I guess that leave 26,998! I don't keep in touch with many other numismatists either, especially not internet savvy ones. Let me know if you have any trouble downloading the reports. It's a little tricky until you get the hang of it. I also found a good PDF combiner if you'd like to combine each report into one file after you download them.-RHM22 (talk) 02:02, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, that is good. I just looked at the modern commemorative listings, there are several in the thousands. Who knew?--Wehwalt (talk) 02:21, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

The best thing to do, with coins and other things, is to find something that no one wants, buy a bunch of it, and then wait until it becomes collectible.-RHM22 (talk) 02:42, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'd like the Mint reports for 1907 and 1908, which are not in that library.--Wehwalt (talk) 04:11, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

There's another page of Mint reports, scanned by the University of Michigan, that has the 1907 and 1908 reports as well as some others that aren't on the first page from Penn State. You can view it here. There is also another page on the same website that has some 1980s reports.-RHM22 (talk) 18:16, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh, nice. Thanks. Unhappily they don't say anything quotable about the Saint-Gaudens. I am trying to make the eagle article as different from the double eagle article as possible, wherever possible using different quotes from ASG, Barber, and Teddy. They didn't stint themselves, so it is doable. Lots of images out there, even a couple on commons, though the licenses need slight work and I've contacted the uploader. I've gotten interested in another article, but should be back to the eagle by tomorrow or Sunday.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:29, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Back at the eagle, which is still in userspace (I am working on the production section, and then collecting should finish it). Strongly considering having a gallery for the various Saint-Gaudens models and sources.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:30, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

It could probably benefit from one. There might be some patterns in that 1913 book to add to the article as well.-RHM22 (talk) 16:56, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

I checked, and I didn't see any. There are several different types of the double eagle, including one designed by Barber, but there aren't any patterns of the eagle in that book.-RHM22 (talk) 17:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Barber actually designed that double eagle in 1891! No one knows why it exists dated 1906. There is no way he was going to be able to trump Saint-Gaudens! The President would never approve any Barber design, period. BTW, it still needs polishing and I haven't added my images yet, but I have moved it to Indian Head eagle.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:04, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it later. Barber's design might have been considered a masterpiece were it not for Saint Gaudens!-RHM22 (talk) 17:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I think I've mentioned that I feel if the Fraser design had made it for the quarter, we'd be complaining about early political correctness and how Flanagan's model was far superior. Why, Flanagan's quarter would probably be put on a half eagle!--Wehwalt (talk) 17:11, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Speaking of Saint Gaudens, I wonder what Breen thought of his reverse of the Columbian Exposition medal featuring the naked youth?-RHM22 (talk) 21:48, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

It's on pages 572 and 573, skipping to the good stuff, the reaction to Comstock's campaign "Afraid to stand up to this fanatic, or to defend St. Gaudens from fundamentalist prudery, the Exposition people withdrew the rev, and asked Charles E. Barber to deisgn a replacement, predictably, this was notable only for banality. Understandably infuriated, St. Gaudens swore that he would go to his grave before having anything further to do with the Mint Bureau." I would say that Breen didn't like Barber. I am looking for a contemporary image of Barber to include in the article to follow up a very nice shot of Roberts I found. I mean, circa 1907 Images are a pain in the ass. I'd settle for a nice political cartoon knocking Roosevelt over "In God We Trust". Still looking. I've submitted the eagle to GA, haven't had time for DYK yet. Another Four Award candidate..--Wehwalt (talk) 22:03, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

As you have an interest, check this out.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:11, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Neat find! I wonder how the names were added. I guess each letter had to be punched in by hand without leaving a mark on the other side. My guess would be that it was done while the medals were still warm from minting.-RHM22 (talk) 22:14, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

By the way, the 1910 Mint engravers photo has Barber in it. Though it's a little later than 1907, I don't imagine he would have looked much different.-RHM22 (talk) 22:17, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Hoping for a portrait. Trying to mix it up and make this article as different from the Saint-Gaudens double eagle article as possible.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:28, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Did you see this ridiculous article?-RHM22 (talk) 22:30, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

I've seen similar. The "Irish barmaid" is a myth, and I've been trying to decide whether to mention it. I guess I have to.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:35, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Barber had his fans. Dig this. Also, in a 1906 Numismatist on Google books, there is a nice image of a young Max Mehl if you have an interest what with your catalog and all. Also, dig this.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:06, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

That newspaper article is crazy! I'd like to know who considers the Barber series to be the most beautiful ever produced by the Mint. I guess Shanana was the best musical act at Woodstock as well. I have a book from Mort Reed somewhere. I'm not sure how well known he is, because this is only the second time I've read something from him.-RHM22 (talk) 01:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

It probably wasn't, but is it possible that this (p. 762) was the book that Saint-Gaudens lent Roosevelt?-RHM22 (talk) 01:46, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Oops, nevermind. I see now it was a different book.-RHM22 (talk) 01:47, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, Burdette tells the story and I found the book online. What Burdette doesn't seem to notice is the very similar eagle which is part of the rejected reverse for the Columbian Exposition, and to be honest I didn't notice it too until I got a better quality image to look at. The man had standing eagles on the brain.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:00, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I noticed that! I guess he figured that if enough saw the eagle enough times, they would start to like it subconsciously. By the way, I found a copy of Walter Breen's book on proof coins. I'm not sure if you have that, but let me know if you want any information from it.-RHM22 (talk) 16:05, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Need a speedyletete to move a page

Hi RHM22,

Looks like I need a page deleted to move an article, probably because it has some few edits related to redirecting. It's Mohammad Amin al-Husayni. Take a look at my survey and see that the most used name in books is Haj Amin al-Husseini. In fact the current name is at the bottom of the bunch. Delete it quickly please so I can move it? Saw you are active at the moment. Thanks.

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Hi there. Your request seems reasonable, but I'm afraid that it would be inappropriate for me to move it without consensus. Topics relating to just about anything or anyone Islamic are pretty controversial these days, so consensus is vital for any type of move like this. The best course of action here would be go to the current article and suggest a page move. After that, other editors can leave their opinion and we'll decide what to do from there. If you need any assistance in suggesting a move, let me know and I'll be glad to help you with what I can. Best, -RHM22 (talk) 18:52, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Smart move. I wouldn't touch that one with a ten foot cartoon depicting Mohammed.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:51, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

You have that right! Then again, I wouldn't touch the ten foot cartoon depicting Mohammed either. I might consider touching something that was touching that, but that's as close as I'd get.-RHM22 (talk) 01:13, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

You probably couldn't upload it at Commons either.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:39, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Change name at commons

Could you change File:Screen shot 2011-06-15 at 2.56.23 PM.png at Commons to Canoe River CNR map.png? Many thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:27, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I can move images at Commons or not. Let me check.-RHM22 (talk) 01:20, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Nope, I can't move images at Commons. There is a special userright over there, so I'm sure someone who does a lot of work with images could do that.-RHM22 (talk) 01:24, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:31, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Good thing I didn't use that engravers image! Jappalang gave it a thumbs down at the Mercury dime FAC. No evidence of pre-1923 publication or government authorship. I think I've seen that image used in one of my books, put probably they wouldn't have the right credit information. Anyhow, the dime looks likely to pass, and next in the queue is Landis, so you get the sole attention of the coin world for a few weeks!--Wehwalt (talk) 11:17, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I see what he means! I didn't know that at the time, but the image is from 1910 and not necessarily published in 1910. If I knew who the photographer was, I could probably find out whether or not he died more than 70 years ago. It's unlikely that I'll find that information though, because no one I asked online even knew about the photograph.-RHM22 (talk) 13:37, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

By the way, there's no rush at all, but could you please add a few different refs in the Gobrecht dollar article? Brian said that he thought they weren't diverse enough, so it'd probably be a good idea to add a few more here and there.-RHM22 (talk) 13:53, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I'll do it over the next few days, I've temporarily shelved the coin books to begin the Nixon project, but I'll get them out again, the ones helpful to you, anyway. It is going to take months for what I already have written to clear FAC, so this seems a good time to get in some work on the Nixon major project. I've never seen anything that suggested he had any particular interest in coins. I think I remember seeing the inaugural medals on display at his museum but that's about it. He did sign the Eisenhower dollar bill but nearly screwed it up, actually, they realized just in time that if Nixon didn't sign it on the 31st, as Congress had adjourned, it would have been an inadvertent pocket veto.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:09, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Are you interested in the Nixon dollar coming out in the next few years?-RHM22 (talk) 21:30, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I will happily buy some.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:33, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Truman will be the last dollar I'm going to buy. The bucks stop there.-RHM22 (talk) 21:35, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I successfully applied for file mover status at Commons. Hey, I just realized, if I get Nixon to FA, I get another Flaming Joel award as Nixon is mentioned in Billy Joel's song "We Didn't Start the Fire". Actually, he is mentioned twice. I already have one for Khrushchev. Worth it for that. Right? Right?--Wehwalt (talk) 12:30, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I believe a couple of the coin articles were mentioned in his "Trade Dollar Hop".-RHM22 (talk) 22:16, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Those popular culture connections get you every time.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:58, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Speaking of trade dollars, don't know if you saw this.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:11, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I didn't see that. Interesting article! Edgar Adams was one of the authors of the 1913 pattern coin book.-RHM22 (talk) 00:30, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

I will with luck be at the ANA library a week from Tuesday, so if there's anything you need scanned, let me know.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:03, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

United States Dollar

Greetings, I noticed you have been quite busy with getting US currency to featured status. Well done. There is a possibility that the United States Dollar article might be the US Wikipedians Collaboration for July but I was wondering if that is an article you might be interested in editing and possibly helping to get to featured status. --Kumioko (talk) 21:10, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Sure, but I don't have much generalized information about the dollar. I imagine that the thrust of the article will be financial and economic information, and my speciality is numismatics. Still, I could write a section on the coins of the U.S. dollar if you're interested.-RHM22 (talk) 00:32, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Images

I got some images at the Nevada State Museum (heading east towards Colorado Springs). For the Seated Liberty, the reverse came out OK, but no obverse image was great. Photography conditions were poor, due to plastic that really took up glare. I actually did much better on the gold pieces than on the silver. None of the trade dollar images came out well. I did better on the 20 cent piece, will upload gradually as I have time. Hoping to do better in Colorado Springs.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:05, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Nice work with the images, and thanks for the copyedit of Gobrecht! I have a little time now, so I think I'll nominate it for FA again.-RHM22 (talk) 14:32, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Shitty work, actually, I was having camera problems too. I'm hoping they are liberal about taking photos in the money museum. I'm about 500 miles from Colorado Springs and will be there tomorrow night. I have four days there but would really prefer to be gone after Thursday so I can be at the Carter Library in Atlanta Monday (a little research on the Canal Zone, which I'm planning to do, and the Canal Treaties). I will see what the ANA library has on Gobrecht. If there are specific items you want, let me know.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:17, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

The Nevada State Museum had a small but interesting exhibit, including quite a few CC coins. Unfortunately, a lot of them were in this barred area that was just too impossible to get photographs, which is a pity, as there are CC rarities in there. They have one of the presses from the CC mint, which still operates, though they only run it two hours a month to strike medals, which I did not find attractive and so did not buy. Right across the street is a fairly large coin shop, which seems to do a good business, including having (I think overpriced, but I'm not good at US coin values) plenty of CC coins for sale. Location, location, location.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:32, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Not sure if you know about him, but William Crawfod Gorgas is a somewhat distant relative of mine. I can't think of anything specific about Gobrecht, other than general information. None of my references have very detailed information, so I had to include more minutia than I usually do just to keep the article from being too small. One thing that would be great are old auction prices from the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, so I can add a collecting section. I tried to add one earlier, but I couldn't find enough information to justify it.

General Gorgas? I did read The Path Between the Seas, also the author of one of the books I've gotten says he had some rather odd views about race. My only famous relative is Peretz Hirshbein, who was a distant relation of my maternal grandfather. He was a famous Yiddish author and playwright, but since his death in 1948, he's become obscure. One of these days I will have to take a closer interest in his article. As for Gobrecht, I'm sure there have been several articles in the Numismatist. I'll see what I can get for you. It is my plan to see what pre-1978 coin and auction catalogs they have, giggle giggle. I hope much of the material is in stacks, I'd rather browse than have to be going to the reference desk all the time.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:38, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

That's a good idea on the auction catalogs. I don't know a lot about Gorgas, other than his work with yellow fever and malaria, but I did read that he wanted white men to colonize Central and South America. I don't think that viewpoint was particularly unusual at that time, but it's certainly possible that he had other ideas as well.-RHM22 (talk) 14:58, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

That's the general area, I'll see if I can find the specifics, but he felt his anti-germ work would allow white men to colonize the tropics. No offense to your relative, of course, and it is easy to laugh at outdated ideas which Gorgas would not have had had he been educated in our time. I found some more images before I left Colorado Springs, the best finds being the 1977 ANA auction catalog and the images I uploaded on Gobrecht, I also found some MTB catalogs, if you remember them, from the mid 1970s. For example, image of both sides of the 1922 high relief Peace dollar. I did not bother with black and white images, only color, which narrowed it down considerably, as no one but a wealthy auction house was going to pay for color plates in 1977. I will upload everything eventually but it is a boring task and I'll likely only do a few at a time.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:48, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

The pictures look great so far! I wouldn't be offended to learn anything about any of my relatives. It was a different time then, and I'm sure his views were quite mainstream at the time. It could also be considered a compliment to the other races, seeing as how the white race was too fragile to survive in the harsh jungle!-RHM22 (talk) 00:59, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Library

I've found major sources of color images of US coins (several auction catalogs pre 1978) and have permission to take images in the museum as long as no one is in the room but me (so we don't get a "but he's doing it"). We are in clover. Bust, Gobrecht, Seated Liberty, even an 1895 Morgan. We will not have to worry about pre 1923 much longer, although obverse images are proving to be much easier than reverse. Working on images now, will work on textual sources starting tomorrow.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:00, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

I have uploaded an 1841 dollar obverse image to start you with. Obviously that and the "In God We Trust" reverse one could not have come from the same coin, so if you want a post-1866 one, that should not be a problem :) I would hold back on the Gobrecht, there was a 2009 book by Ivy Press. I copied much of it for you and I guess we will have to arrange email. I have utter loads of images, including patterns. Reverses are the weak spot, but I have some. They are open extended hours because of the summer seminar.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:08, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do about adding info, I guess. Might be several days, it is easy to add images but I will need to actually read some of this stuff. There is also a pamphlet by Breen.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:57, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you could email me and I'd send you the pages as attachments. I expect to be doing a lot of driving the next three days after today.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:07, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about taking so long to respond. I'll send you an e-mail right now. The images look great! The coin image situation is rapidly improving.-RHM22 (talk) 15:00, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I responded by email. I also have some "live" images, I got special permission to take images in the museum. 1804 dollar I am sure I got, the 1913 V nickels were at a bad angle and I need to see how they came out, MMVII extremely high relief double eagle. I've wrapped up there. Besides the rarities, the museum is very strong in gold coins and patterns, I need to go through those images carefully. They are not so good at dollars, though, but I got enough from pre-1978. The only scan I did that had many reverse images was the 1977 ANA auction catalog, run by Kagin's. I found some material on Eckfeldt, surprisingly little on Barber, to my disappointment, although they do have copies of some of his personal papers, including the correspondence with other countries to design their coins. I was amused by a note from Linderman to him, headed "Dear Charley:" Somehow I don't see Barber as someone you would say "Charley" too much! By the way, The Numismatist was non-copyright until sometime between 1950 and 1958, I didn't go through to find out. I did scan the front page of the June 1948 issue which has a pic of Nellie Ross giving the first two Franklin half dollars to the Franklin Institute.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:15, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Nice! It sounds like you're finding some great information there. I wonder if anyone ever addressed Saint Gaudens as "Auggie"? While there, you might try and find a portrait of Robert Scot? I think Connormah was looking for a portrait of him, but I couldn't find any leads at all.-RHM22 (talk) 22:23, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I suspect his wife called him "Mr. Saint-Gaudens", it was that kind of time. I'm done there now, two highly productive days, I think. I got to read through Julian's book on US medals, though I didn't bother to scan it; it would be expensive to purchase online. I'll send you some pages in a little bit.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:00, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Couldn't resist uploading an 1804 dollar to the Bust dollar article, and better than the Jacob Eckfeldt image. Wikipedia owes me a few million.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:13, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Urgent attention at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Gobrecht dollar/archive2

Not to be an alarmist, but I feel it would be remiss of me not to inform you directly of the findings at my image review of your current FAC. To make it short, your two lead images may still be under copyright. Don't feel bad that you didn't catch it, most people would not, and I only pick it up because I've had to deal with it a few times elsewhere on Wikipedia. Don't despair, the images could still be free use, however more investigation is needed to be sure. Sven Manguard Wha? 04:30, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I do have fresh images of this coin or rather more recent ones that are out of copyright and that I will upload. Enjoy.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:56, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks to Sven for letting me know and Wehwalt for remedying the problem before I could get to it!-RHM22 (talk) 15:01, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

A thing of beauty ...

Just look at this!--Wehwalt (talk) 02:22, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Capital! Is it a piece from your collection? I would have imaged a few of mine, but my camera is on the fritz.-RHM22 (talk) 01:00, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

In a manner of speaking, since the ANA's members own it, it is in our collection!--Wehwalt (talk) 01:03, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

That's right! Maybe I'll take it out and put it in my Dansco for a while.-RHM22 (talk) 01:21, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Well, you'll have to pay for the return postage these days.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:06, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Images

The last set is processing now. You should have images numbered from IMG 6909 through 7004, plus a bonus image I tossed in. Please double check to see you got them all.

I've uploaded a few images so far. These things take time. I hopefully will be home late tomorrow and will have a bit more time. Uploading images while driving is frowned upon in several states.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:42, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the great stuff! I've looked over the images, but I haven't had time to add any new references or material yet. I'll be on the road tomorrow, but I'll probably add the references the next day. Thanks again for the great stuff! It will prove invaluable to the article.-RHM22 (talk) 01:05, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Glad I could help.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:18, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

FYI

Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests#July 14 Dabomb87 (talk) 02:12, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

We should talk about this. I can replace most of the images which are pre-1923 (although not the reverse of the actual dollar), as I have images of patterns from the auction catalogs--Liberty at the Seashore, Amazonian, Commercial Dollar. If you think quality images of obverses (I might be able to manage one or two reverses, depending on how my amateurish photographic attempts came out) are better than the pre 1923 stuff, then I can replace, if you prefer not, then I'll just upload when I get the chance so commons has the images.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:02, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Sure, if they're better than the PD stuff (which shouldn't be too hard to achieve!), I would certainly welcome new photos of the patterns.-RHM22 (talk) 01:07, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

OK, I will get a few uploaded.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:16, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Trade dollar

I've moved in a pattern of the dollar. If you can find anything in your references that mentions the Amazonian design and its rejection as militaristic, it would be good. Also, I find here that President Chester Arthur mentioned the trade dollar and the redemption question in his annual message to Congress (at the time, the State of the Union address was simply transmitted to Congress, the Prez did not show up, nothing in the Constitution says that he has to read it out loud).--Wehwalt (talk) 09:42, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Also, to put lettering on the edges of the 1804 Type 3 dollars, according to an article by Breen I have in my box of books, the Mint resurrected (his word) a Castaing machine. The article also discusses Snowden's exploits in restriking. Incidentally, I've started work on Turban Head eagle (still a redlink, it's in my sandbox). I'm just inspired by all those images. Also in my box of books I put a copy of Historic Gold Coins of the World. I'm looking at it and smiling at the plates. Published 1971. Without copyright. It apparently wasn't sold, just distributed to coin dealers. Pre-1978 started as a loophole, and I think we've learned how to drive a truck through it.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:37, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

No longer a redlink.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:18, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Nice find on the book! I no longer have the book that I referenced from, but I did take several notes from it, and I don't think it said anything about the Amazonian being militaristic.-RHM22 (talk) 11:05, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

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The trade dollar was a United States dollar coin minted to compete with other large silver coins that were already popular in the Orient. The idea first came about in the 1860s, when the price of silver began to decline due to increased mining efforts in the western United States. The Coinage Act of 1873 made trade dollars legal tender up to five dollars. The coins were first struck in 1873, and most of the production was sent to China. Eventually, bullion producers began converting large amounts of silver into trade dollars, causing the coins to make their way into American commercial channels. This caused frustration among those who were given them in payment, as the coins were largely maligned and traded for less than one dollar each. In response to their wide distribution in American commerce, the coins were officially demonetized in 1876, but continued to circulate. Production of business strikes ended in 1878, though the mintage of proof coins continued until 1883. The trade dollar was remonetized when the Coinage Act of 1965 was signed into law. (more...)

Congrats!--Wehwalt (talk) 09:18, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!-RHM22 (talk) 11:05, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey, RHM22, it was pointed out to me that Bobby131313 has gotten irritated (at a bot, actually) and may be leaving. Some words on his talk page would be a Good Thing.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:25, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Will do! Thanks for letting me know.-RHM22 (talk) 20:27, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Numismatic literature

Hi RHM22. Would you or one of your coin-loving compatriots have access to this source? Nikkimaria (talk) 13:39, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't, but the American Numismatic Association Library in Colorado Springs probably does. Check their online catalog and if they have it, give them a call. If they give you a problem because you are not a member, let RHM22 or myself know, we are.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:53, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't have access to that either. As Wehwalt noted, the ANA Library would probably be the best bet short of eBay or something like that for finding that volume. As far as I know, you have to be a member to borrow books, though. Flashing an ANA card opens a lot of doors. For instance, I can get 5% off of Hertz Rent-a-Car, and it doesn't end there. Well, it actually does. Anyway, might I ask why you're interested in that source? I believe that publication is a list of other published books, more or less.-RHM22 (talk) 21:57, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Ah, okay. I was interested in this - would that be another publication, then? I'm trying to expand the article on the Nazi invasion of Winnipeg and am having terrible luck with non-newspaper sources (another GBooks page I saw cited a Maclean's Magazine article from the 1960s that according to my local archives librarian doesn't exist...). Nikkimaria (talk) 22:13, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Interesting! I've never heard of that before. I think this might be the article you were looking for. It was published in the mid 1990s in the journal of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association. If you need more information, you might try contacting the author, Darryl Atchison, whose e-mail address I was able to find via a Google search. You might even be able to use the photograph of the faux banknote, depending on Canadian copyright law. Let me know if that (very short) article isn't what you were looking for, and I'll try looking into it a little deeper.-RHM22 (talk) 22:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Helpful man, that. What I meant way back when is that they might be able to make a couple of copies for you, not led you or us reference material.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:36, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

No worries. Thanks to both of you - I'll take a look at the RCNA source. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:41, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

By the way, would you happen to know if those notes/ads are valuable? That would be a really neat thing to have!-RHM22 (talk) 22:43, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

The reichsmarks? They were worthless then, probably worth something now. I know a few museums have them, but I don't know what the price would be or whether any are available for purchase. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:57, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

I have a few real reichsmarks from the Nazi era, and they are almost certainly worth less than the fake ones from Winnipeg!-RHM22 (talk) 23:03, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

I have a book on the transition from Reichmark to DM, most interesting if rather technical at times. Interestingly, among the people who did not get to exchange their money was Albert Speer, when he was released in 1966, he was handed 3,000 reichmarks he had on him when he was arrested.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:48, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

I think unless you get back to Gobrecht doublequick, you're going to lose that FAC, but I am sure you have pressing real life issues. Turban Head eagle passed GA and is at PR. Standing Liberty quarter is hung up due to the lack of reverse images. There's one by Bobby, but he did not actually license it, just a PD Money template and that's dicey. Now that he's retired, that's going to make things more difficult. I will do the Platt gold pieces next, I do have PD images of both sides of them and there are no major changes in them.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:48, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Glad you are back. I was at ANA for two days (got a few nice images, like a 1944-D steel cent. I spoke with Don Kagin, whose firm did the 1977 ANA auction. He did not mind us using his images, and suggested that I email one or two of the slabbing firms to see if they would be willing. I will once everyone has a chance to get home. They had an exhibit of Gobrechts, and I will upload some shots, all obverses, alas. Standing Liberty quarter, United States Bicentennial coinage and Indian Head gold pieces are slowly making their way through the review process.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:16, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Those articles are looking good! If you had told me, I could have given you a scan of my 1944 steel cent. It's a rarity, because they accidentally struck it as a 1943.-RHM22 (talk) 22:29, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

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Well done on Gobrecht! Looking forward to seeing what you have next!--Wehwalt (talk) 09:30, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Wehwalt! I'm still busy here, but the next article I will nominate is Seated Liberty dollar as soon as I get the chance. I finished it a while ago, but I haven't yet had a chance to nominate it. I'm glad Gobrecht was passed though. Sorry for slowing down the process! I didn't expect that it would take so long to get to fixing it.-RHM22 (talk) 22:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks for the thanks! Equal thanks go to Wehwalt for keeping the FAC from collapsing like so many improperly mixed souffles while I was AWOL for a while there!-RHM22 (talk) 22:21, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

I really didn't do very much except intimidate by my august presence!--Wehwalt (talk) 22:24, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

When Wehwalt throws his weight around, everybody listens. When I throw my weight around, everybody falls down!-RHM22 (talk) 22:31, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, all is well that ends well. And a TFA too! Nice way to end the summer!--Wehwalt (talk) 23:20, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

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Reverse side of the Sacagawea dollar

The Sacagawea dollar is a United States dollar coin which has been minted every year since 2000. The Statue of Liberty was originally proposed as the design subject, but Sacagawea, the Shoshone guide of the Lewis and Clark expedition, was eventually chosen. The coin features an obverse by Glenna Goodacre and a reverse by Thomas D. Rogers. The new dollar coin was heavily marketed via a series of print, radio and television advertisements, as well as United States Mint partnerships with Wal-Mart and Cheerios. The Mint planned to issue the Sacagawea design in 22-karat gold, but this idea was quickly abandoned after the Mint's authority to strike the coins was questioned. Soon after initial production of the dollar, it was noticed that some of the coins were struck with the obverse of a State quarter and the normal reverse. The Sacagawea dollar did not prove popular with the public, and mintage dropped sharply in the second year of production. In 2009, the reverse of the Sacagawea began changing yearly, with each design in the series depicting a different Native American accomplishment. (more...)

Kennedy half dollar

Hey, RHM22, an editor requested that the compositions and weights for all three versions of the Kennedy half be put in the infobox. I have obliged, but kludged it rather, and you might want to pretty it up. Many thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:58, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Sure! I'll take a look at it.-RHM22 (talk) 20:05, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

I modified it slightly, but I don't think it's perfect. The Kennedy half dollar has the most confusing history of any U.S. coin.-RHM22 (talk) 20:16, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, thats something. Part of the problem is the relative inflexibility of infoboxes. Are you back, or "just visiting"?--Wehwalt (talk) 20:20, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

I will have more time to edit Wikipedia now. I may even try to nominate Seated in a while. I could add more fields to the infobox, but I think it would make it too unwieldy.-RHM22 (talk) 20:22, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, that is good. Yes, it is not worth it to change the infobox parameters. Let me know when you want me to take a look at Seated. My present FAC is United States Bicentennial coinage.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:26, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Morgan Dollar images

I have been working with Wehwalt a bit, and I have some improved images of the Obverse and Reverse of the Morgan Dollar. I do some photography as a hobby, and all of the coin images are those in my personal collection (thus, no problem for me to sign off on the permissions. They are File:Morgan Dollar 1880S Obverse.png and File:Morgan Dollar 1880S Reverse.png. I kind of wanted to run this by you before I went ahead and made the changes. What do you think? --BrandonBigheart (talk) 02:39, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

I went ahead and made the change. We can always revert if you prefer the older ones.--BrandonBigheart (talk) 04:12, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

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eidgenossisches schutzenfest

The obverse for the 1883 and the 1885 coins, both photos and desciption are reversed.

iTs that or I have 2 coins which have the obverse fron 1883 and the reverse from 1885.

I decided not to try to edit this my self, as I would probalby mess up the formating. badly. Actually, I would certainly mess up the formating. ANd Probalby badly mess it up.

And this is one of the best items I've read on Wikepedia.

Doc327hank (talk) 01:46, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

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The Draped Bust dollar is a United States dollar coin minted from 1795 to 1803, and again throughout the 19th century. The designer is unknown, though the distinction is usually credited to artist Gilbert Stuart. The model is also unknown, though Ann Willing Bingham has been suggested. In October 1795, newly appointed Mint Director Elias Boudinot ordered that the legal fineness of .892 (89.2%) silver be used for the dollar rather than the unauthorized fineness of .900 (90%) silver that had been used since the denomination was first minted in 1794. Due largely to a decrease in the amount silver deposited at the Philadelphia Mint, coinage of silver dollars declined throughout the end of the 18th century. In 1804, coinage of silver dollars was halted, and officially ended in 1806 by order of Secretary of State James Madison. In 1834, silver dollar production was temporarily restarted to supply a diplomatic mission to Asia with a special set of proof coins. Officials mistakenly believed that dollars had last been minted with the date 1804, prompting them to use that date rather than the date in which the coins were actually struck. A limited number of 1804 dollars were struck by the Mint in later years, and they remain rare and valuable. (more...)

UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

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	Thank you for raising our awareness for coins, treated with competence and dedication, - a small gem in additions to your crowns, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Looking forward to seeing another of your precious productions soon, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:36, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

it's now, awesome Wikipedian of 26 May 2012, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:53, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

GOCE May drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors May 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up Participation: Out of 54 people who signed up this drive, 32 copy-edited at least one article. Last drive's superstar, Lfstevens, again stood out, topping the leader board in all three categories and copy-editing over 700 articles. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Progress report: We were once again successful in our primary goal—removing the oldest three months from the backlog—while removing 1166 articles from the queue, the second-most in our history. The total backlog currently sits at around 2600 articles, down from 8323 when we started out just over two years ago. Coodinator election: The six-month term for our third tranche of Guild coordinators will be expiring at the end of June. We will be accepting nominations for the fourth tranche of coordinators, who will also serve a six-month term. Nominations will open starting on June 5. For complete information, please have a look at the election page. – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa, and Stfg To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 15:53, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their July 2012 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on July 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on July 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to eliminate the articles tagged in April, May and June 2011 from the queue and to complete all requests placed before the end of June. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits more than 4,000 words, and special awards will be given to the top 6 in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged in April–June 2011", and "Longest article". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa and Stfg. >>> Sign up now <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 19:11, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July 2012 mid-drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors July 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter Participation: Out of 37 people signed up for this drive so far, 25 have copy-edited at least one article. It's a smaller group than last drive, but we're making good progress. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, every bit helps; if you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us! Progress report: We're almost on track to meet our targets for the drive. Great work, guys. We have reduced our target group of articles—May, June, and July 2011—by about 40%, and the overall backlog has been reduced by 264 articles so far, to around 2500 articles. Copy Edit of the Month: Starting in August, your best copy-editing work of the month will be eligible for fabulous prizes! See here for details. – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest. >>> Sign up now <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 16:51, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors July 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up Participation: Out of 45 people who signed up this drive, 31 have copy-edited at least one article. Lfstevens continues to carry most of the weight, having edited 360 articles and over a quarter of a million words already. Thanks to all who have participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, will be available early in August here. Progress report: We are once again very close to achieving in our primary goal—removing the oldest three months from the backlog. Only 35 such articles remain at press time. The total backlog currently sits at under 2400 articles, down from 8323 when we started out over two years ago. We are just two articles away from completing all requests made before July 2012 (both are in progress). Copy Edit of the Month: Starting in August, you'll be able to submit your best copy-editing work for palaver, praise, and prizes. See here for details. – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 00:15, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

GOCE news and September drive invitation

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in its events: The August 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is currently in the submissions stage. Submit your best August copy edit there before the end of the month. Submissions end, and discussion and voting begin, on September 1 at 00:00 (UTC). September 2012 Backlog elimination drive is a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on September 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on September 30 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to copy edit the articles tagged longest ago and to complete all requests placed before the end of August. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits at least one article, and special awards will be given to the top six in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged longest ago", and "Longest article". This drive features a much easier signup process. We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest. >>> Sign up now <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 19:04, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

GOCE September activities

Reminders from the Guild of Copy Editors A quick reminder of our current events: The August 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is in the discussion and voting stage until midnight September 14 (UTC). The September 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is in the submissions stage until midnight September 30 (UTC), when discussion and voting begin. The September 2012 Backlog elimination drive is now underway! The event runs until midnight September 30 (UTC). The goal is to copy edit articles with the oldest tags and complete all requests placed before September. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who participates, with special awards given to the top five in the following categories: "Total articles", "Total words", "Total articles over 5,000 words", "Total articles tagged longest ago", and "Longest article". – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Message delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 04:29, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Notification of pending suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity

Following a community discussion in June 2011, consensus was reached to provisionally suspend the administrative permissions of users who have been inactive for one year (i.e. administrators who have not made any edits or logged actions in over one year). As a result of this discussion, your administrative permissions will be removed pending your return if you do not return to activity within the next month. If you wish to have these permissions reinstated should this occur, please post to the Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard and the userright will be restored per the re-sysopping process (i.e., as long as the attending bureaucrats are reasonably satisfied that your account has not been compromised and that your inactivity did not have the effect of evading scrutiny of any actions which might have led to sanctions). This removal of access is procedural only, and not intended to reflect negatively upon you in any way. We wish you the best in future endeavors, and thank you for your past administrative efforts. MadmanBot (talk) 06:44, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)

Welcome to the first edition of The Olive Branch. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in dispute resolution (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are active in DR, but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to this page.

Steven Zhang's Fellowship Slideshow

In this issue:

• Background: A brief overview of the DR ecosystem.
• Research: The most recent DR data
• Survey results: Highlights from Steven Zhang's April 2012 survey
• Activity analysis: Where DR happened, broken down by the top DR forums
• DR Noticeboard comparison: How the newest DR forum has progressed between May and August
• Discussion update: Checking up on the Wikiquette Assistance close debate
• Proposal: It's time to close the Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard. Agree or disagree?

Read the entire first edition of The Olive Branch -->

--The Olive Branch 19:24, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

GOCE mid-drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors September 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter Participation: Out of 37 people signed up for this drive so far, 19 have copy-edited at least one article, about the same as the last drive. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, every bit helps; if you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us! Progress report: We're almost on track to meet our targets for the drive. Great work, guys. We have reduced our target group of articles—August, September, and October 2011—by about 44%, and the overall backlog has been reduced by 58 articles so far, to around 2600 articles. The biggest difference between this drive and the previous one is a stronger focus on large articles, so total word counts are still comparable. Don't forget about the Copy Edit of the Month contests! Voting for the August contest has been extended through the end of the month. You don't have to make a submission to vote! August 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is in the discussion and voting stage until midnight September 30 (UTC). September 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is in the submissions stage until midnight September 30 (UTC), when discussion and voting begin. >>> Sign up now <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 22:17, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Notification of imminent suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity

Following a community discussion in June 2011, consensus was reached to provisionally suspend the administrative permissions of users who have been inactive for one year (i.e. administrators who have not made any edits or logged actions in over one year). As a result of this discussion, your administrative permissions will be removed pending your return if you do not return to activity within the next several days. If you wish to have these permissions reinstated should this occur, please post to the Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard and the userright will be restored per the re-sysopping process (i.e., as long as the attending bureaucrats are reasonably satisfied that your account has not been compromised and that your inactivity did not have the effect of evading scrutiny of any actions which might have led to sanctions). This removal of access is procedural only, and not intended to reflect negatively upon you in any way. We wish you the best in future endeavors, and thank you for your past administrative efforts. MadmanBot (talk) 18:22, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity

Following a community discussion in June 2011, consensus was reached to provisionally suspend the administrative permissions of users who have been inactive for one year (i.e. administrators who have not made any edits or logged actions in over one year). As a result of this discussion, your administrative permissions have been removed pending your return. If you wish to have these permissions reinstated, please post to the Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard and the userright will be restored per the re-sysopping process (i.e. as long as the attending bureaucrats are reasonably satisfied that your account has not been compromised and that your inactivity did not have the effect of evading scrutiny of any actions which might have led to sanctions). This removal of access is procedural only, and not intended to reflect negatively upon you in any way. We wish you the best in future endeavors, and thank you for your past administrative efforts. WJBscribe (talk) 23:00, 1 October 2012 (UTC)