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Happy editing! DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:31, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Josh Carter (Phantogram) (March 7)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.

The comment the reviewer left was:

A single source, cited only once, is nowhere near enough to establish notability or to support the article contents.

Also, that one cite is not inline, therefore failing the minimum inline citations requirement.

Please add more independent, reliable, secondary sources providing significant coverage of the subject; and ensure that all material statements are backed up by a reference to such a source.

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Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:33, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Pyangy! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:33, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Josh Carter (Phantogram) (June 3)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Praxidicae were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Not independently notable outside of Phantogram

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Josh Carter (Phantogram) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Josh Carter (Phantogram), click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

PRAXIDICAE💕 14:08, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

November 2022

Hello Pyangy. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Pyangy. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Pyangy|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 21:19, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, I do not have financial stake in promoting a topic/this individual. I am adding this page on their behalf but not receiving payment whatsoever. I work for a company that represents the artist in other endeavors but it's not an exchange for payment, just part of our management of this artist to have a functioning wiki page for them. Not sure why that would be an issue. If for some reason there is still an issue then I will stop editing as we don't want to go down that road. Pyangy (talk) 22:42, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:PAID is broad in its application; as an employee of a company that represents an artist, you are considered a paid editor when it comes to that artist. If you prefer to stop editing entirely, that's fine. If you ever decide to return, please make the declarations required. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 22:48, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ww don't have "wiki pages"; we have articles. As an administrator, I can say you indeed meet the definition of a paid editor, and as such the Terms of Use require you to formally disclose that if you wish to participate here. You are free to abandon participating here if you don't wish to disclose, but I'm not sure why that's a problem, as you've already said you are a manager. 331dot (talk) 22:54, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the misnomer. It's not necessarily an issue that one needs to adhere to the Terms of Use- of course that makes sense. It is simply that I do not have the final say on my end and will need to pause until I consult with my team. As this is not the article I was referencing in my Teahouse post (which I believe 199.208.172.35 replied to and mentioned after the original reply), it would be more responsible for me to communicate that to them regarding the actual article. Appreciate the help!

And feel free to update both articles on your end! Pyangy (talk) 23:19, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And of course, once I have communicated with my team, we will come back to finish editing each article. It's not as if this is a legal issue on our side. Making sure information on any person of interest is available to the public without influence is important to us. Thanks! Pyangy (talk) 23:28, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, this is a legal issue for you. When you created this account, you entered into a legally binding obligation to comply with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of use, which includes a mandatory paid editing disclosure, as described at WP:PAID. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:33, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to declaring PAID on your User page, you are prohibited from directly editing the affected articles. Instead, you are limited to proposing changes on the Talk page, for a not-connected editor to act upon or not. David notMD (talk) 04:06, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify a bit, creating a draft article is OK, in fact the process described at Wikipedia:Articles for creation is the only venue Wikipedia has for editors with a conflict of interest. Once your draft is approved and published in article space, however, you cannot edit it anymore (except for minor corrections to spelling, grammar, dates, etc.) and you must instead propose any substantive change on the talk page. ~Anachronist (talk) 05:45, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Josh Carter (Phantogram)

Hello, Pyangy. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Josh Carter".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗plicit 14:56, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]