User talk:Piersgregoryrobinson

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Ticket: 2018071510003628

May 2018

Hello, I'm Philip Cross. I noticed that you recently removed content from Piers Robinson without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Philip Cross (talk) 19:22, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Piers Robinson, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Shellwood (talk) 19:46, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because the username, Piersgregoryrobinson, matches the name of a well-known, living person.

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If you think that you were blocked in error, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below this notice, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:47, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unblocking request

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Piersgregoryrobinson (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I believe I have been unfairly blocked after I tried to remove defamatory material from a page set up to attack me. Can this block be ended

Decline reason:

(1) You have not followed the instructions to confirm your identity. (See above or below.) We cannot assume that anyone who comes along and claims to be a particular person is that person without proof, for the simple reason that we get people creating Wikipedia accounts and lying about who they are all the time. (2) In what way was the content you removed "defamatory"? I do not see any way of seeing everything you removed as defamatory, but if somehow it all was defamatory without being so evident that a neutral third party can see it, then you will have to specify how is was defamatory. (If by "defamatory material" you mean "material which you personally don't like and would prefer not to have publicly visible" then the answer is that you don't own the article, and Wikipedia articles about people do not necessarily present their subjects in the way they would wish to be presented.) (3) The claim that the article was "set up to attack [you]" is absurd. Certainly part of what it reports is coverage of you which is critical of you, but that is far from being the same thing. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:52, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks! \\\Septrillion:- ~~‭~~10^Eleventeen 16:10, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively you can make a tweet from your Twitter account that confirms this is your Wikipedia account. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:18, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Further looking at the edits, the info you removed is not defamatory in any way, especially the last sentence about working for the sputnik news agency, it is nearly all quotes that have been said by the subject of the article (possibly you if you are the Piers Robinson of the article but I doubt it given what was removed). Lavalizard101 (talk) 16:22, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You must be joking, right? So "(who reputedly wears an “I ♥ Bashar” bracelet)" and other guilt by association should stay in the article? (Thankfully, it is now out) Huldra (talk) 19:56, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I emailed Piers Robinson at the email address given on his Uni page, and he replied that this account was indeed him, So, can someone unblock him, ASAP! Huldra (talk) 19:56, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ahem, User:NeilN...Huldra (talk) 20:08, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Huldra: Ahem yourself. "Emailing Huldra" isn't one of the options. Another admin can unblock if they think that's enough. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:14, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Huldra: Someone who has created an account here saying "you can take it from me that this is the person he claims to be, because he has emailed me and said so" is no more a reliable proof of identity than someone who has created an account here saying "you can take it from me that I am who I claim to be, because I say so". The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:56, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JamesBWatson: You have misunderstood. I emailed Robinson at his official Uni email address, the @sheffield.ac.uk account (which is given in the link on the Piers Robinson page.) It was this Robinson who said that this was his account. I asked him to use the same email account to contact info-en@wikimedia.org (I doubt if anything to do with wp is high on his list of priorities, though.) Huldra (talk) 20:10, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Huldra: I don't know what you think I misunderstood. I understood you to say that we should unblock because you told us that he had emailed you saying that the account was his, without any evidence other than your say-so. I still don't see any other way of reading your message above, timed at 19:56, 6 July 2018, but if I did misunderstand, and it actually meant something else, then perhaps you can clarify what it did mean. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 20:19, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JamesBWatson: As I said, I got emails from his official Uni account. I can ask Robinsons permission to forward these emails to you, if you you want to. Will that do? Huldra (talk) 20:28, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's easy enough to forge forwarded emails. This is not directed towards you Huldra but I'm not going to be put in a position where some editor says, "you accepted Huldra vouching for the identity of x editor, why won't you accept me vouching for y?" Editors wishing to prove their identity can go through a community-approved process or approach an editor who the community has formally vetted (admins, arbcom members, etc.). --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:37, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I was writing an answer to you, Huldra, when NeilN posted that message. What NeilN said is absolutely correct. Accepting the unsubstantiated word of an administrator that he or she has accepted the unsubstantiated word of another editor (which is what you have suggested) is no better than directly accepting the word of that other editor, and if anything worse. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 21:00, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Huldra, NeilN, JamesBWatson, and Septrillion: Identity verified via OTRS ticket and user unblocked as a result. Welcome to Wikipedia Professor Robinson! --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 21:45, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Welcome to Wikipedia, Piersgregoryrobinson! Thank you for your contributions. I am TheSandDoctor and I have been editing Wikipedia for some time, so if you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{help me}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Also, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name using four tildes (~~~~); that will automatically produce your username and the date. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! TheSandDoctor ^Talk 21:46, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome, Piersgregoryrobinson, hope you appreciate cookies...after first being immediately Hanged, drawn and quartered when you arrived here.

Well, as I have said to others before: as Tyrion put it: "if you want justice, you come to the wrong place". That is both for Game of Thrones ...and Wikipedia....

The Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/BLP issues on British politics articles is still open, though, please add your thoughts on Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/BLP issues on British politics articles/Workshop (or on Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/BLP issues on British politics articles/Workshop, if the clerks allow it), cheers, Huldra (talk) 23:23, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also, if you have any objections to anything presently in the Piers Robinson article (- or you think that anything is missing); I suggest you voice your concerns on the Talk:Piers Robinson page. (It is not strictly forbidden for you to edit the Piers Robinson article directly, but voicing your concerns on the talk page instead would be much better received by the WP community...), (take a look at: Wikipedia:Conflict of interest), cheers, Huldra (talk) 20:50, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not blocked

Just for your information, you are not blocked from editing Talk pages (and have not been blocked since 2018). Feel welcome to engage in discussions. — kashmīrī ^TALK 11:55, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Kashmiri,

I keep repeatedly trying to reply to your question and it does not load/publish.

I have been saying 'Dear Kashmiri, My comments in the OffGuardian article and follow up Geopolitics interview were primarily about the dangers of COVID-19 being exploited, as you describe. I do not promote any particular theory, conspiracy or otherwise, regarding the origins of COVID-19. If I did support/promote a particular theory I would have written and said very clearly that 'x is the most likely explanation for y etc', sincerely Piers

What we are not

Please read wp:talk and wp:not. Article talk pages are not general forums for discussion of the topic.Slatersteven (talk) 17:03, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]