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August 2024
[edit]Your this edit has been reverted. Please gain WP:CONSENSUS on the article talk page before removing well sourced content. BlackOrchidd (talk) 06:57, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- @BlackOrchidd You have two hours to self-revert all your edits made in violation of 1RR, as communicated on your Talk, or I'll take it to AE. — kashmīrī TALK 06:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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- @Primefac : The Reddit account is anonymous and unconnected to a real identity, so OUTING doesn't apply. — kashmīrī TALK 10:21, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- ArbCom, the Oversight Team, and the general community consensus have long agreed that linking to any undisclosed profile on another site is considered outing. There are certainly those who disagree along your lines of thinking (i.e. "it's two anonymous profiles, who cares") but at the moment they are in the minority, and would need an RFC to overturn this long-standing consensus. Primefac (talk) 12:29, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- "Profiles on other sites" is in the literal text of the OUTING policy. This isn't some interpretation the OS team has made interpreting policy, but rather a straight forward application what the community decided policy says. In many discussions I tend to take a more wholistic view than many other oversighters - including in evaluating your conduct during the COI arbcom case - but I don't see any wiggle room in that edit. Barkeep49 (talk) 14:56, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Barkeep49 Thanks for chiming in. It matters a lot to me when fellow editors notice what's happening to my account.
- These words you quoted were only added recently without a discussion. Earlier discussions on both the scope of personally identifiable information and the balance between COI and OUTING went both ways, and we for example had this consensus for years, too.
- Anyhow, this is still a grey area, marred by many discussions, with policy wording changing on a regular basis. While I might have been more careful, I'll be emailing the ArbCom separately as advised by the template. Cheers, — kashmīrī TALK 19:07, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- "Profiles on other sites" is in the literal text of the OUTING policy. This isn't some interpretation the OS team has made interpreting policy, but rather a straight forward application what the community decided policy says. In many discussions I tend to take a more wholistic view than many other oversighters - including in evaluating your conduct during the COI arbcom case - but I don't see any wiggle room in that edit. Barkeep49 (talk) 14:56, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- ArbCom, the Oversight Team, and the general community consensus have long agreed that linking to any undisclosed profile on another site is considered outing. There are certainly those who disagree along your lines of thinking (i.e. "it's two anonymous profiles, who cares") but at the moment they are in the minority, and would need an RFC to overturn this long-standing consensus. Primefac (talk) 12:29, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
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—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:28, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- @HJ Mitchell: Is it possible to get a little more explanation on what happened here, or is the Committee's recommendation that we go crawl around on Wikipediocracy in search of morsels? jp×g🗯️ 04:35, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- JPxG, is there something unclear about the last sentence in the template? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 05:16, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- @JPxG: It should be clear based on the content of this section ("August 2024") why Kashmiri has been blocked. Sdrqaz (talk) 05:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- I understand that the ArbComm has more context, and I cannot see the REVDEL'd edits but the literal policy of WP:OUTING, as I read it, is good intentioned but doesn't match my understanding of how the present internet works, particularly the vector surface for privacy. Before proceeding, what would be the best way for the community to re-review its understanding of WP:OUTING? Guidelines like Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing are incompatible with "anti-doxing" measures if User contributes are available in the various mirrors and permanent ubiquity. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 17:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @HJ Mitchell I was looking to update @Kashmiri on what I believe is poor editing/vandalism/NPOV of an article he last edited on 9 July 2024 the article has since been edited 70ish times by a single user over the course of 3 days without any discussion or consensus in the talk page.
- Although I see he's been perma-banned though I can't figure out the reason why from here, would you be able to assist me? Galdrack (talk) 18:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Galdrack I'm afraid not. The block is in the name of the Arbitration Committee, which does not comment on blocks like these which are rare but sometimes necessary. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:25, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- @HJ Mitchell thanks for that, is there anywhere we can check or see? Wiki is quite hard to follow the rulings to be honest and when I can't figure out what lead to one ban for a user it honestly makes it difficult to edit earnestly. Galdrack (talk) 18:27, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Galdrack I'm really sorry but no. ArbCom has a responsibility to handle matters not suitable for public discussion and this is one of those. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:13, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- @HJ Mitchell thanks for that, is there anywhere we can check or see? Wiki is quite hard to follow the rulings to be honest and when I can't figure out what lead to one ban for a user it honestly makes it difficult to edit earnestly. Galdrack (talk) 18:27, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Galdrack I'm afraid not. The block is in the name of the Arbitration Committee, which does not comment on blocks like these which are rare but sometimes necessary. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:25, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
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