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Hi! I was looking through William Refshauge, and saw something I hadn't seen before which raised my level-of-interest enough to cause me to ask you a question - actually, a number of questions.

(The main reason for my interest is that, with defence.gov.au continually changing its website structure, this looks like a way to "prevent" links to defence.gov.au references going "stale".)

You have expanded

http://www.itsanhonour.gov.au/honours/honour_roll/search.cfm?aus_award_id=1110124&showInd=true

into

|url= http://www.itsanhonour.gov.au/honours/honour_roll/search.cfm?aus_award_id=1110124&showInd=true

|archiveurl= http://web.archive.org/web/20140423064138/http://www.itsanhonour.gov.au/honours/honour_roll/search.cfm?aus_award_id=1110124&showInd=true

• How did you know this page had been archived?
• How did you discover the web.archive url for the page?

Or is it more the case that you "forced" the page to be archived? In which case, how do you "force" a page to be archived?

Thanks in advance. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 06:48, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Pdfpdf, thanks for stopping by, and for your kind words.

To archive pages, I use http://archive.org/web/web.php I just go to that page and type in whatever page I'm looking to add to wikipedia, then it either tells me the dates that the page has been saved on, or else I can chose to save the url to the wayback machine. The machine generates a permanent web-archive url for users. It's a US nonprofit organization.

I try to use web archiving for all references I add to wikipedia because it helps to prevent link rot. You can read more about other options at Wikipedia:Link rot. One bit of info is that you can choose to add a parameter |deadurl=no to your citation template if you want users to go to the live version of the page, it just alters the way the citation appears. Also, you need to include the archivedate parameter if you use the archiveurl parameter.

Hope this helps! Clare. (talk) 07:00, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

It does! Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 07:09, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Precious again

images of Adelaide
Thank you for quality articles and images of Adelaide, such as Adelaide city centre, for inviting to talk rather than edit war and for thoughts on Wikipediholism, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 496th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize,

Again, unexpected, and again, a pleasure to receive. Many thanks! Pdfpdf (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Excellent work on the Spratly Islands articles. Bearian (talk) 20:57, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

That is VERY kind of you, and is appreciated. Thank you. Best wishes, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:24, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Murray riverboats

I've broken the offending Userspace article into two lists Murray-Darling steamboats and Murray-Darling steamboat people to get over the problem you alluded to. Not sure it's the best way but it's done and reasonably useful. Lots of holes in the second list which I'm hoping will be filled eventually, but I doubt I can get much more from Trove. Doug butler (talk) 00:02, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Are you planning to be there on Sunday? If so, I'll discuss it with you there/then. (If not ... ) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:35, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Couldn't make it unfortunately; family commitments interstate. Catch you later. Doug butler (talk) 06:57, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Any time, and I'm looking forward to it. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:19, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

ADF Ranks

Hey! I am just after an opinion. A graphic designer has done the various RAN/RAAF & ANC/AAFC/AAC ranks using his awesome skill and I have been given access to the originals and permission to use them on WP. I have added the flag rank hardboards to the RAN page and was wondering (in your opinion) if I should replace the sleeve lace with the SRI (soft rank insignia) versions then add the hard board's as well. I will (in the coming days) add the OR/WO ranks and the WON special insignia to complete the section. Cheers Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 08:34, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Conversation is (continued at / moved to) User talk:Nford24#Re: ADF Ranks Pdfpdf (talk) 12:13, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Adelaide city centre

No worries, although I'm not entirely sure what I'm being thanked for; I only did the same thing you reverted TDW for. Still, glad that the situation has cooled down; it's certainly nothing worth getting worked up over! Frickeg (talk) 12:48, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you're still posting on my talk page. You were re-adding blatant original research to an article, I asked you not to, and then after someone else also did you apparently decided to stop, which is great. The Drover's Wife (talk) 13:18, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

I have literally no idea what you're talking about. I have no desire to get into an argument with you though. The Drover's Wife (talk) 13:42, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Look, you're spoiling for a fight, and you're not going to find one here. The Drover's Wife (talk) 14:21, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

New topic regarding a different page

I'd hate to see what "less magnanimous" looks like if this is supposed to be you with manners. Once again, it's a matter of basic policy: you added a page that was essentially a copyvio, I nominated it for deletion. I didn't even realise you were the author under your alt-account. You're lining up an ever larger collection of threats, uncivil language and general abuse on my talk page and I'm still not going to bite. The Drover's Wife (talk) 11:47, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

I'd hate to see what "less magnanimous" looks like if this is supposed to be you with manners. - As usual, you can't follow instructions, and you make unexplained comments out of context. I have no idea what you are referring to.

Once again, it's a matter of basic policy: you added a page that was essentially a copyvio, I nominated it for deletion. I didn't even realise you were the author under your alt-account. - Ummmm. Errr. Bullshit??

You're lining up an ever larger collection of threats, uncivil language and general abuse on my talk page and I'm still not going to bite. The Drover's Wife (talk) 11:47, 7 July 2014 (UTC) - I don't care if you "bite or not"!!! But a relevant response would be an entertaining novelty!!! Pdfpdf (talk) 12:25, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Wow, the stuff you posted at AfD is literally about 500 times as inflammatory as the comment you're still upset over for some reason (which was a comment 90% of other editors would have just ignored). I've said before I generally find you productive, but, um, please calm down? Frickeg (talk) 11:50, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Responded (with respect and thanks) on your talk page. Pdfpdf (talk) 12:25, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Confused

It's absolutely a way forward, if you're okay with it! I'm a huge heritage and architecture buff, and I think getting a heritage buildings list for Adelaide (which is way overdue) and including the RAIA's registers into these kinds of articles nationally (which I'd wholeheartedly support as a way of including material we should have that would otherwise get excluded). I'd definitely try and help with it too - though I've been trying to make a start on Wikipedia's really poor coverage of Victorian heritage, I'm sure I can take a crack at SA too if it helps. My concern with the list as it was was absolutely not "I don't think this material should be covered on Wikipedia" but "I'm not sure this particular way of doing it works". The Drover's Wife (talk) 13:04, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Ummm. Great! Fantasic! (From my POV this is INFINITELY preferable to ... "negative stuff") Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:28, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

And mine! The Drover's Wife (talk) 14:23, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Jolly good, but what about reality?

Whoa! Changing the name to 'List of heritage listed buildings in Adelaide' is unwise, as many of the entries may NOT actually be heritage listed! See my comments on the Afd page. Bahudhara (talk) 16:21, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Hey! What can I say? (If I agree with you (which is exactly what I do do) ... ) Pdfpdf (talk) 16:27, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Oops, I posted here before refreshing my watchlist and seeing that it was The Drover's Wife who renamed the list. I've left a message on her talk page, pointing to my comments on tha Afd page. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 16:34, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

It's a bit late to have further discussion on the AfD page, so here seems like the best place since you're both watching it. (As for the copyright in lists: I'm no copyright lawyer, but lists can and have been deleted before on copyright grounds - it's why, for example, we don't have more detailed music charts on Wikipedia.)

The problem is that this list (pre-move) dives down a verifiability and notability rabbit hole. The SAHRMI example that Bahudhara might be notable for Wikipedia (and really, probably is), but it's not "Nationally Significant" (proper noun) on the basis of that award.

I can see the problems you're bringing up, and I see how List of heritage sites in Adelaide may well be too broad. However, I'm also not a fan of having a muddle of different types of articles - some for types of building, some for time periods, etc. (I also think, for that matter, unless you're setting a fairly high bar for inclusion, statewide or even metropolitan-area-wide articles, even at the existing levels, get incredibly unwieldy.)

What if we went "List of heritage buildings in Adelaide (timeframe)" as a series of articles? This would stop the length being unwieldy, taking the "listings" out would remove any debate over the inclusion of these articles (though still having a clearer basis for inclusion and verifiability than hte article as it stood). It would also avoid winding up with a plethora of "type of building" list articles, which I find (just around Wikipedia generally) tend to get forgotten about. This would take a similar approach to List of heritage places in Fremantle, except covering a broader geographical area.

Alternatively, if you're mostly focused on recent buildings that you don't think fit under a "heritage" framework at all, what if the article shifted to being one on buildings that have won notable architecture awards? This would seem to be possibly more in line with where Bahudhara seems to be aiming, and once again has the advantage that its inclusion criteria are a LOT clearer.

As a third option: what if we did both of those? This would allow for a better coverage of modern architecture and a better coverage of modern heritage buildings, and to better cover both of them where they overlap. The Drover's Wife (talk) 01:32, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

I just need to clarify - the inclusion criteria on the list before was very clearly defined and stated, and as clear as one on buildings that have won architectural awards would be. Moving to "list of heritage buildings" muddles the inclusion criteria, and in that sense is less viable as a general list. It works when we limit it to heritage listed buildings, but if we make it more generic, as is the intent, then what constitutes "heritage" becomes a significant issue. That said, my inclination is to start with the overly broad topic, then spin out subsets when the list becomes unwieldy. It is quite likely that we'll have to end up with a list of 20th century buildings and lists with breakdowns on building type, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to start with a generic list and then spin out groupings as required. - Bilby (talk) 02:36, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

As for the inclusion criteria on the list - not quite. The initial list had the problem that, to quote Frickeg from the AfD: "For me, the problem is the narrowness of this list. It is basically what one organisation considers important, which is fine for them, but not really for a general encyclopedia." But more problematically, Bahudhara (in his final comment on the AfD) envisaged expanding it well beyond that publication about 120 buildings, which would bring us as I said into a definitional wormhole about what "nationally significant" is. This is why I suggested doing it on the basis of significant awards as something that's a bit more manageable. It also avoids the argument about what is "heritage" (which as you note is another problem we need to avoid) by having another easily-verifiable basis for lists covering significant modern architecture. The Drover's Wife (talk) 03:32, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Narrowly defined lists are fine - the problem comes when the inclusion criteria is too broad, so that anything can fit. :) Significant awards are problematic, because heritage listing isn't an award. Heritage listing is problematic, because significant modern buildings aren't heritage listed. We'll just need to define inclusion criteria in terms that covers what we want the list to do, and I suspect we'll need more than one standard for inclusion. - Bilby (talk) 03:38, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm agreeing with you, hon. ;) The Drover's Wife (talk) 09:45, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

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Technical Mentors - Unleashed Adelaide, 11-13 July 2014

Free this weekend? Please see Wikipedia:Meetup/Adelaide/Future meetings#Technical Mentors - Unleashed (GovHack Adelaide) for details. Alex Sims (talk) 11:42, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

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Request for information

I don't make a habit of using WP:AIV etc. (except for sock puppets), so I am unfamiliar with the process. I am experiencing problems with an editor who:

• refuses to discuss things on a talk page
• wants to edit war
• has exceeded 3RR

Please advise (via pointers to the appropriate pages if you wish / prefer) how I should proceed. Thanks in advance, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:14, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

WP:ANEW would be the best place to make a report, if you use Twinkle it has a good interface for reporting, otherwise use the "click here" button at the top and fill in the blanks.

Or be lucky enough that a passing admin responds to your help request. I've fully protected the article for two days to try and force discussion. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 15:22, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! :-) Pdfpdf (talk) 12:16, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Another request for information

Where should I look to find information about closing article talk page discussions about proposals? (Thanks in advance.) Pdfpdf (talk) 12:14, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Details on the technical process can be found at WP:CLOSE. However, if you're thinking of closing the discussion at Talk:Six-star rank then I would suggest that you are too involved to be doing so. A better approach would be to make a request for closure so that a disinterested party can make the call. Yunshui ^雲_水 12:45, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

a) Thanks.

b) No, I wasn't thinking of closing any discussions, but again, thank you, and thank you for you pro-activeness.

c) I agree with your advice.

d) (FYI: My question was with regard to the closure of Talk:Six-star rank#Merger)

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:57, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Ah, right. What is it you want to know? Are you looking to challenge the close, or just curious about the process? Yunshui ^雲_水 12:59, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

More "ignorant" than "curious"! ;-)

(When I have some knowledge, I'll be in a position to form an opinion.)

Again, thank you for you pro-activeness. (Sadly, such behavior is unusual ... ) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:04, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Well, for merger discussions, WP:MERGE would be a useful place to start reading up on the process. Best of luck. Yunshui ^雲_水 13:08, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Again FYI - (should you wish such information ;-) - my interest is (apparently!) WP:CLOSE. No interest in WP:MERGE. And again, Thank you. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:17, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Camp Island

I'm sorry about requesting speedy deletion for Camp Island; I thought that it had never been encyclopedic. Jwoodward48wiki (talk) 02:36, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

No worries. The world didn't end, and the problem has been sorted out. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 02:44, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Re: Farmers Union (brand)

Hi, the lead section of this article states that "Farmers Union is a brand name" (emphasis added). And considering that it is owned by a Japanese company now, I think that "(South Australia)" is not a proper phrase for disambiguation purpose, and therefore I moved Farmers Union (South Australia) to Farmers Union (brand). If I am wrong, let me know. Thanks. --Neo-Jay (talk) 14:30, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

What errors are you referring to? Do you read what I explained in my talk page? --Neo-Jay (talk) 14:39, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

OK. That's fine. Take your time. And I corrected the order of discussion. Some confusions were caused by edit conflict.--Neo-Jay (talk) 15:05, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your reply, and sorry for the inconvenience I caused. Best regards. --Neo-Jay (talk) 12:45, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

A Dobos torte for you!

7&6=thirteen (☎) has given you a Dobos Torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it. To give a Dobos Torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:38, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Mmmmm! Looks great!! Thank you!!!! Pdfpdf (talk) 13:29, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Did you see the pointless animation on my user page? You might enjoy. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:02, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

a) Yes I did. And b) Yes I did. But not as much as I'm enjoying the anticipation of finding and eating a Dobos Torte!! Pdfpdf (talk) 13:11, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Please read WP:BLANKING

If DrKiernan wishes to remove your statement, that's his privilege. Favonian (talk) 12:51, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Not without explaining himself! Pdfpdf (talk) 12:54, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

@Pdfpdf: Read it again. He's under no obligation whatsoever to reply. If you keep at it, you'll end up blocked for harassment. Favonian (talk) 12:56, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. (Appreciated.) Pdfpdf (talk) 13:04, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Request for information

(From the page: User talk:DrKiernan)

Could I bother you to tell me where, and how, I register a complaint about inappropriate behaviour by an admin?
With thanks in advance. Pdfpdf (talk) 12:52, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

I already did [1] - 22:24, 2 August 2014 DrKiernan (Talk | contribs)

(User was thanked.) Pdfpdf (talk) 13:04, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

I have proposed a partial interaction ban at WP:AN. DrKiernan (talk) 14:05, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

That's very polite of you to notify me. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:05, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

List of owners of so-called "Australian icons"?

(Copied from User_talk:Timeshift9#Request_for_your_opinion
We often disagree, hence it would seem to me that you are a good person to find the holes in my ideas.
I have in mind that I'd like to create an article along the lines of List of owners of so-called "Australian icons"
(Yeah, it's a really bad page name - but that can be addressed ... )
It would contain things like:

• Vegemite - Kraft (Swiss)
• Fosters - xxxx (South African)
• Farmer's Union Iced Coffee - Kirin (Japanese)

and

• Coopers (SA Family owned)
• Bickfords Australia (SA Family owned)

and

• AMSCOL - defunct

etc.

What do you think?
Thanks in advance, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:48, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

I have no interest/opinion. Timeshift (talk) 11:39, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Oh.

Oh well, thanks for replying.

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:58, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Six star ranks

Hi, if you'd like to have a quick look at Talk:Six-star rank#Poll a "vote" would I think help. TIA Andrewa (talk) 02:37, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:56, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello old freind

A new version of the AOSM has been gazetted - http://www.defence.gov.au/MEDALS/Content/Australian/Since-1975/AOSM-Greater-Middle-East-Operation.asp Enjoy - Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 06:17, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 05:14, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Spratly islands edit

Sorry for including no references, I'm pretty sure i've seen them on an american website just can't remember it now, I'll add it back when i find it. Thanks for the note — Preceding unsigned comment added by Junchuann (talk • contribs) 14:34, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Howdy!

Howdy! FYI, your edits to South China Sea pages may well be facts, but with the exception of the edit you made a few minutes ago, they contain NO supporting references, and they read like they are simply your own opinion. Please be more careful - less neutral editors than me, (and possibly me too), are likely to revert edits that do not have supporting references. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:28, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for including no references, I'm pretty sure i've seen them on an american website just can't remember it now, I'll add it back when i find it. Thanks for the note — Preceding unsigned comment added by Junchuann (talk • contribs) 14:34, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 09:01, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Bars to CSC & DSC

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AusTerrapin#Bars_to_CSC_.26_DSC

Try: VC, SG, MG, DSC, DSM, CSC, CSM, NSC AusTerrapin (talk) 17:18, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

See CSC and bar image.

Phyllis Margaret Cilento Maslen - daughter of Raphael Cilento

Hi. I found a photo of a young Margo Maslen and wondered if you want to add it to the Raphael Cilento page. (her father). It is on this page ... http://angustrumble.blogspot.com.au/2009/12/aunt-anne-abroad-v.html The photo is of 3 men and one woman - Margo - on a boat. The photo above it is of one man in a turtle neck jumper rowing a boat 'Umberto'. Irmgarde (talk) 11:35, 15 October 2014 (UTC) IrmgardeIrmgarde (talk) 11:35, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Irmgarde: wondered if you want to add it to the Raphael Cilento page. - Thanks! I'm having ISP problems at the moment (Optus WIFI). Will reply soon, I hope! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:51, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

a) On this page, (http://angustrumble.blogspot.com.au/2009/12/aunt-anne-abroad-iv-further-south-and.html), is a picture (380x400px, 1520x1600px, but covered in dust specs), with the caption: All tourists went swimming in the famous Blue Grotto. “Cynthia, Me, Liz, Margot, taken by Umberto the boatman at Capri.” Me = Anne Pearson Hall (née Borthwick) - Aunt Anne, older sister of Helen, Angus Trumble's mother. Margot = Phyllis Margaret Cilento Maslen??

Note that this page also contains [2] with the caption: On the way back to England by way of the Riviera, the party went on another boat trip to see the Calanques at Cassis, not far from Marseilles. Left to right, André, Margaret Cilento [the artist; daughter of Sir Raphael and Lady Cilento, and older sister of the actress Diane Cilento], Boatman, and Nipper. (Nipper Strachan)

To me, the Margo in this photo doesn't look like the Margaret in this one. Sorry, I'm confused.

b) Unfortunately, it's not clear what the copyright(s) of these photos is/are. The various blog pages together imply they were taken circa 1950, which is less than 65 years ago. Until it is clear what the copyright status is, Wikipedia requires us to treat them as if they are still under copyright, and hence we can't use them without permission from the owner of the copyright. (Tedious, isn't it!)

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 08:34, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

19th Oct 2014 - Hello again. Yes I looks at both photos again. I would have thought the young woman with the plaits and hat was labeled as Margot Cilento. Also the text describes that photo and says this was meeting was a fleeting nod to fame. In her family are a number of red/sandy headed people. I think I remember her having a big head of upswept red hair. My mum knew her and I remember her from the 70's. I think I have seen an etching something like 'Chartres' in the home of a relative.

I'll try to contact the Blogger. He seems to be in a public position in the arts.

Women do dye their hair so hair colour can change.

I also saw a photo of Margaret Cilento here from 1954. Scroll down. [3]

Regards, Irmgarde (talk) 02:00, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Women do dye their hair so hair colour can change. - Agreed. However, looking at the facial features, she seems to look different in every picture! Even the two on [4] look different - but I guess there is 3 years between them ... I'll try to contact the Blogger. He seems to be in a public position in the arts. - Yes, he most certainly does. Good luck and best wishes, Pdfpdf (talk) 08:21, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

P.S. If you do contact him, please ask about the copyright on the photos. Pdfpdf (talk) 08:21, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

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Taiping Island

Perhaps you can explain to me what your resources about itu aba which is not only one having its own fresh water in Spratly? I have given mine from Reuters even Phillipines's report. And you have just given a published number and we still do not see anythingILVTW (talk) 16:55, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

It's 3:30am here. I will reply in more detail when the sun is above the horizon. Meantime, suggest you do a google search on "Pub.161 Sailing Directions". Pdfpdf (talk) 16:59, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Non-free images

Hi, due to the fact that you seem a lot more experienced in wikimedia than me, I would like to ask for your advice on a matter.

Is it possible for me to upload a new version of a non-free image that has been approved by admins before? The reason I want to do so is because the current photo resized by Theo's Little Bot is too low res to meaningfully see anything. The photo will be resized nonetheless just not to the extent of Theo's little bot's resize.

Heres the image. You can see that its quite hard to see the ship depicted clearly and you probably wouldn't know that the thing in front was a stealth main gun. I hope to use a larger image that is 600x400 pixels large, up from the current 387x258 pixels but still a considerable downsize from the original 1000x667 pixels. I think that the 600x400 image is the smallest image which allows everyone to clearly see the ship and its features.

What do you think? -- 21:13, 21 October 2014‎ User:Junchuann (Talk | contribs)

I think that I need a better ISP because I can't seem to access http://en.dcnsgroup.com/press/new-dcns/

Can you supply me with a URL to the original 1000x667 pixels photo?

Yes, you're correct, I can't distinguish a stealth main gun. Pdfpdf (talk) 12:26, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Australian House of Representatives

Hey there, Andreas11213 is back with another suggestion here on the picture. As usual the way he's going about it is infuriating, but I still think the fundamental design works better. I'd very much appreciate your thoughts on the matter. Frickeg (talk) 09:47, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Didn't find your responses negative at all, and thank you. I have thicker skin than that! Actually I've been in a fairly cantankerous mood on Wiki anyway (seems to be more than the usual amount of idiocy around, and Andreas is a difficult person to agree with), so I've been a little worried about my comments in various places being taken offence to. Frickeg (talk) 19:48, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

seems to be more than the usual amount of idiocy around - LOL!

a) At various times, I've made similar observations. i.e. You are by NO means "an orphan" in this respect.

b) Actually, I suspect "the usual amount of idiocy" is fairly constant. I suspect the variable is your and my perception and/or level-of-tolerance of it ...

Andreas is a difficult person to agree with - Andreas is a difficult person.

I've been a little worried about my comments in various places being taken offence to. - In my biased opinion, I see that as a good thing; I'd be more worried if (like some) you always thought you were "right".

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:40, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Generals

Rosemary wont be happy, mate. <g> Lexysexy (talk) 22:51, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

<chuckle> Well, she'll just have to join the end of the queue, won't she ... Pdfpdf (talk) 07:19, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

(Which reminds me of a joke ... ) Pdfpdf (talk) 07:19, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

I wont bite about the joke, but instead ask, "What are the criteria for inclusion in the Brigadier's list?"

Not well defined. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:58, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

For example, my late friend Brig Ian Gilmore OBE OAM, sometime Commandant Queenscliff, father of Gus, Chair of Legacy Australia (as it is now known) would seem to me to be a candidate, see http://tributes.theage.com.au/obituaries/theage-au/obituary.aspx?pid=162109843 Lexysexy (talk) 09:23, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

would seem to me to be a candidate - I agree. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:58, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

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OIF

Re this, what did I do wrong? Brycehughes (talk) 16:08, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Howdy!

Basically: a) Don't use pipes on dab pages, and b) "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

If you find that too brief and cryptic (which would be understandable), please re-read WP:MOSDAB, and ask me more specific questions - I'm happy to try to explain specifics, but a comprehensive reply to "what did I do wrong?" could go on for many paragraphs, and I'd like to get to bed before midnight.

In good faith - despite being more cryptic than good manners might prefer. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:19, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

BTW: If you think I'm being exceptionally pedantic, you are probably correct - that's not my primary intent; just a side effect. Pdfpdf (talk) 12:23, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you! And to you and yours!! Pdfpdf (talk) 10:31, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Inch definition

The summary of this edit of yours has me confused: Inch#Modern standardisation is very explicit that, other than for surveying, the inch is defined as exactly 2.54 cm in the countries that use the imperial or customary system. Is there some nuance that I'm missing? – Minh Nguyễn ^💬 11:48, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Oh, perhaps you're making a distinction between "2.54 cm" and "25.4 mm"? – Minh Nguyễn ^💬 11:49, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Interesting. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. The inch is not, and never has been, defined in terms of metric units - it is defined in terms of the yard. I shall examine the inch article, but it would be a remarkable coincidence if the inch happened to be EXACTLY 2.54 cm - I expect that some trade, not scientific, body has "decided" upon this definition with no regard to scientific accuracy. I shall get back to you. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:58, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

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WP:RFP/A

Having just patrolled a few of your new pages I'm struck by how dumb it is to be checking the contribution of someone with 3 times my experience. Please apply for Autopatrolled and save us from pointless work. Happy New Year. Bazj (talk) 12:18, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

User:Bazj: Thanks! I must admit I don't pay a lot of attention to that sort of stuff, so thanks for bringing it to my attention.

And Happy New Year to you, too - Enjoy the fireworks! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:46, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

P.S. You flatter me! (To which a) I don't object. b) I don't object.) I've only been on WP for a few months more than you have. Pdfpdf (talk) 16:07, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

(But yes, I did get your "message" thank you. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 16:07, 31 December 2014 (UTC))

No flattery. It's pleasant to come across decent articles at Special:NewPages rather than autobiographies, adverts and copyvio. Bazj (talk) 17:04, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Oddfellows

Hi Pdfpdf! How has your year of 2015 started rolling? :-) Anyway, I have just a tiny little question concerning the "Oddfellows" article: Southwark, Hatton Garden.

What I meant by changing the linking, was to follow WP:LINKSTYLE (cf. [[Riverside, California|Riverside]]). There is no need to linking to the both, whereas [[Southwark]] already serves as a more specific one. I corrected the linking one more time, but if you choose to revert it, I won't change it again. I'd suggest that we can ask a second opinion in that case, what do you think? =P Cheers! Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 17:46, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Again you confuse me. Southwark is SE1. Hatton Garden is EC1. Neither page mentions the other. They appear to be two different separate places. You appear to be saying that you think one is a subset of the other. Why? Pdfpdf (talk) 17:57, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh, now I see! Indeed, I thought that one is a subset of the other. Sorry, my mistake; you are totally right here.

Anyway, I noticed a much larger issue with the article: the sources. The article is largely depending on the very website of the organisation (which itself would not be considered independent, and therefore valid, source), which also would fall under {{dead link}} or {{fv}}. I was wondering if you liked to help me to find new sources to replace that one? =P Cheers! Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 18:53, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

I suggest you may find it useful to read all of the Talk:Oddfellows page. I think you will find that it discusses all and addresses some of your concerns. (It may even answer some of your questions ;-) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 05:01, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

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Well thank you kind sir! And the same to you!! Best wishes, Pdfpdf (talk) 05:03, 2 January 2015 (UTC)