User talk:OrganizationTheory

Welcome!

Hi OrganizationTheory, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like it here and decide to stay. Our intro page provides helpful information for new users—please check it out! If you have any questions, you can get help from experienced editors at the Teahouse. Happy editing! Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 05:38, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for the warm welcome, Joshua Jonathan! After having benefited so much, and for so long, from Wikipedia, I'm hoping to help contribute back however I can. OrganizationTheory (talk) 13:30, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Acharya Dr. Sthaneshwar Timalsina (April 29)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by ToadetteEdit was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs to

meet any of the eight academic-specific criteria
or cite multiple reliable, secondary sources independent of the subject, which cover the subject in some depth

Make sure your draft meets one of the criteria above before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If the subject does not meet any of the criteria, it is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

cancelling all self published works, this does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NPROF.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Acharya Dr. Sthaneshwar Timalsina and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Toadette^Edit! 07:21, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, OrganizationTheory! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Toadette^Edit! 07:21, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, OrganizationTheory. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:Acharya Dr. Sthaneshwar Timalsina, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{edit COI}} template)—don't forget to give details of reliable sources supporting your suggestions;
disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:27, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 2024

This is your only warning; if you move a page disruptively again, as you did at Draft:Sthaneshwar Timalsina, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Thanks, Please feel free to ping/mention -- User4edits (T) 05:42, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear @User4edits I'm hoping you can help me understand what this means. I had submitted the draft for publication and received a decline on April 29, 2024. That decline told me to ask the AfC Help Desk for further assistance, which is what I did here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk#20:09, 5 May 2024 review of submission by OrganizationTheory. The Editor at the help desk identified a few changes to make, and told me to change the name of the page to "Sthaneshwar Timalsina", and then said the article is "good to go" because it certainly meets the Wikipedia:Notability (academics)#Criteria. So I made the changes, changed the page name, and then moved it into the article space. Was this not the appropriate action? If not, can you please let me know how to proceed? I certainly don't want to be blocked from future edits! Thank you for your guidance. OrganizationTheory (talk) 10:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Judging by the edit summary "revert COI move to mainspace" left when this was moved back to drafts, User4edits seems to be suggesting that you may have a conflict of interest in this subject which has not been disclosed. You will note that I placed a COI query here a week or so ago (the section above, titled 'Managing a conflict of interest'), but you appear not to have responded to this. Could you do so now, please, describing (in your own words) what relationship, if any, you have with the subject of this draft. Thank you, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:53, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, thank you for clarifying! There is no COI whatsoever. I make almost all my edits in the realm of Hindu and Buddhist tantra and have edited other similar scholars' pages as well, like Mark S. G. Dyczkowski. I don't have any relationship with these scholars. I have just been hoping to increase the number of biographical pages about scholars of Śaiva tantra in particular, as it is a particular fascination on mine that isn't well-represented on Wikipedia, and this was my first attempt at moving an article into main. I apologize once again if I did something wrong in the process, it was simply because I'm new here and still learning the ropes. I'd like to remain an active editor on Wikipedia and hope this mistake doesn't get in the way of that. OrganizationTheory (talk) 11:08, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The SPI concerns that were raised in moving the article back to drafts have now been resolved in my favor and archived (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rprakashmathur/Archive). Can you please advise, @DoubleGrazing, on how I should proceed now, to get this draft moved to main as a published article? Really appreciate your help so I don't make any additional inadvertent missteps. Thank you. OrganizationTheory (talk) 13:42, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

You have stated that you have no COI in this subject, which, assuming good faith, we will accept. The SPI investigation didn't, in and of itself, prevent the article being published, but it is good to have that closed as well, of course.

You have essentially two options:

If you are confident that the article complies with all core requirements, you can move it to the main article space yourself, where New Page Patrol will at some point review it; or
If you would like an AfC reviewer to look over the draft once more, you may submit it for a review by clicking on the blue 'resubmit' button. This is the safer option of the two, naturally.

HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for your help. I went with the resubmit option to be safer and have my fingers crossed for successful acceptance! OrganizationTheory (talk) 14:59, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An SPI has been started by me for some people (including you) linked to this Draft. You can see it here, do you know them? Thanks, Please feel free to ping/mention -- User4edits (T) 16:27, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear User4edits, having read the SPI article you pasted above, I now understand what your concerns about my account are and I assure you they are entirely not the case. As that article advises, I'll be patient and wait until the investigation concludes. OrganizationTheory (talk) 10:59, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Please feel free to ping/mention -- User4edits (T) 01:20, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sthaneshwar Timalsina (August 4)

Your recent article submission has been rejected and cannot be resubmitted. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by CNMall41 was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: After numerous declines and then moved to the mainspace by SPA, I would say that potential UPE is involved (suspicion, not accusation). Outside of that, based on notability standards alone, subject would not qualify for a Wikipedia page.

CNMall41 (talk) 20:15, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear @CNMall41 can you please clarify why you believe this article does not meet the notability standards? Anyone who meets one of the eight notability standards for academics listed here is noteworthy enough for an article (Wikipedia:Notability (academics). The fifth criterion for academic notability on that article is clearly met by the article, because the subject is a named endowed chair at Stony Brook University, which is an R1 university (List of research universities in the United States; i.e., a top research-productive university in the United States). This meets the fifth notability criterion and is referenced in the draft using reliable sources. I've improved the draft based on advice from previous declines and previous editors like @DoubleGrazing who looked at this version agree that the article does meet notability criteria. I'm unsure what the stop sign means and why I'm unable to submit this article because it does meet notability criteria. Can you please explain further? OrganizationTheory (talk) 20:44, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Even if that is met, that does not mean you are able to use primary and unreliable sources to create a promotional article for someone you are likely associated with.--CNMall41 (talk) 21:01, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no association here. I had planned to write biographical articles about several scholars of Śaiva tantra because this is an underrepresented area on Wikipedia and this was my first attempt at such an article. I'm still learning the ropes here and am feeling a bit discouraged about learning all the intricacies of this site. I've put a lot of effort into this draft and don't think it is promotional, as it is very much written about academic material in a neutral tone. So what changes can I make now to advance my draft forward? OrganizationTheory (talk) 21:14, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]