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Archive 42: May 2018

A7 on Antonio Foscarini

Hi Onel5969 -- I've declined this speedy because being an ambassador to two major cities seems a clear notability claim. Being executed for treason and then rehabilitated also appears somewhat unusual. As he died in 1622, we don't need to worry about the BLP policy with regard to the lack of sourcing. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:26, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Espresso Addict - Thanks for the explanation. I don't think I did a BLP prod though, that's why I speedied. Without references, there is nothing to show that the assertions claimed in the article are accurate. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 11:53, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Xianzi, the Shrimp Eater

Hi, I'm the professor of the college student editor (bzuegel) who wrote the Xianzi, the Shrimp Eater Wikipedia article. You flagged it as needing more citations. Can you please be more specific or flag specific sentences rather than the entire article? As a specialist on the topic, I graded and vetted this article before it was uploaded to the main space, and I am satisfied with the citations in this work. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michwang108 (talk • contribs) 03:05, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Chinsō

Hi, I'm the professor of the college student editor (hgiordano) who wrote the Chinsō Wikipedia article. You flagged it as needing more citations. Can you please be more specific or flag specific sentences rather than the entire article? As a specialist on the topic, I graded and vetted this article before it was uploaded to the main space, and I am satisfied with the citations in this work. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michwang108 (talk • contribs) 03:06, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Shigajiku

Hi, I'm the professor of the college student editor (ltk8) who wrote the Shigajiku Wikipedia article. You flagged it as needing more citations. Can you please be more specific or flag specific sentences rather than the entire article? As a specialist on the topic, I graded and vetted this article before it was uploaded to the main space, and I am satisfied with the citations in this work. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michwang108 (talk • contribs) 03:08, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Michwang108 - first two things: please always sign your comments on talk pages (either article's or user's), using four tildes (like this: ~~~~); also, please provide a link to the article you have a question about. Now to your question, and I'm going to answer all three here. Virtually every assertion in each of the articles needs a citation, else it is considered original research and can be deleted at any time. For example in the Xianzi article, there is an uncited assertion at the end of the "Sources" section. Any time you see something like that, there should be a citation. All three articles are very under-cited. Additionally, when citing a book, magazine or newspaper, please use page numbers. When citing a book like Awakenings : Zen figure painting in medieval Japan, and not giving a page number, the citation is virtually worthless for researchers. Hope this helps. Btw... all 3 were fascinating articles, thanks for contributing (or guiding your students to contribute).Onel5969 TT me 04:39, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Pin Drop Studio

Hi Onel5969, I'm the creator of the Pin Drop Studio article you reviewed today. Thank you for your comments, and for your view that the subject is notable. Your are duly noted and I have made edits accordingly, which I would like to get your perspective on. I've used only the most relevant citations, and re-wrote the lead to be more factual, as you suggested. I look forward to hearing from you as to whether I should re-submit this current version for review. Kind regards.Wantaz (talk) 13:51, 2 May 2018 (UTC)Wantaz

Nicely done Wantaz - moved to mainspace. Onel5969 TT me 13:57, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Wow. That is very encouraging! Thank you, Onel5969. It's my first article and I am looking forward to creating more. Wantaz (talk) 14:00, 2 May 2018 (UTC)Wantaz

16:49:18, 2 May 2018 review of submission by MinskBel


Hello, could you please help me to edit the article so it would not violate any rules. Tnanks! MinskBel (talk) 16:49, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Request on 16:51:42, 2 May 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by MinskBel


Hello, could you please help me editing the article. Thanks a lot!

MinskBel (talk) 16:51, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

17:23:51, 2 May 2018 review of submission by MinskBel


Hello,

I just would like to add that the author worked in Soviet Union where there were a lot of restrictions. Only government could decide what to publish on English for other countries. Some materials were re-published on English (see https://www.scopus.com/authid/detail.uri?authorId=7004021962), other materials are presented as attached copies (on Russian) on https://independent.academia.edu/AlexanderAbugov. I understand that it's hard to read on Russian to prove that the name on those publications is the same as Alexander Abugov (since it's A.L.Abugov or Abugov A.L. (but by Russian letters)). Also please check https://orcid.org/0000-0003-3960-5667.

Please also check some citations on the draft where different authors cite some publications of Alexander Abugov.

I would really appreciate your help.

Thanks! MinskBel (talk) 17:23, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Purushapura

Hi, I notice you reverted it to the redirect to Peshawar. I did not see such discussion about the consensus. I would like it to be an independent article as in the case of Patna/Pataliputra ie. the old city is separated historically to the present day entity. Thanks.Sgnpkd (talk) 07:22, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Cross Country Detours

All the travellogue cartoons from Tex Avery have pages. This is the only one so why not make a page for it. It is notable for being Avery's travellogue series. Yay Dad (talk) 18:15, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Those are not legitimate notability criteria. See WP:OSE. Onel5969 TT me 18:18, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
Then why policy say Keep cause this article is just as notable as the other travellogue films. Not understand. Yay Dad (talk) 18:24, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
Because you don't understand. That's not what policy says. It says exactly the opposite. Onel5969 TT me 19:07, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
I know not understand. But what does mean? Yay Dad (talk) 14:26, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

02:48:51, 5 May 2018 review of submission by MinskBel


The submission was declined based on reason that there is almost a zero citation count on Scholar and it doesn’t meet criteria for reliable, secondary sources. Please consider the following:

1. The author worked in Soviet Union where there were a lot of restrictions. Only government could decide what to publish on English for other countries. The criteria for citing on Scholar is hardly reliable for scientists who lived in communist countries and it does not reflect the importance of scientific work.

2. Thinking about reliable, secondary sources there is an evidence that such a scientist produced significant amount of scientific publications and inventions. 2.1. Some materials were re-published on English - Scopus (please see independent source – Scopus https://www.scopus.com/authid/detail.uri?authorId=7004021962). 2.2. There is also independent source on German - Leibniz Information Centre for Science and Technology(please see https://www.tib.eu/en/search/?id=198&tx_tibsearch_search%5Bquery%5D=Abugov%2C+A.L.&tx_tibsearch_search%5Bsrt%5D=rk&tx_tibsearch_search%5Bcnt%5D=20). 2.3. There is an independent source on Polish - Institute of Advanced Manufacturing Technologies (please see http://www.ios.krakow.pl/sawios/expertus.php?KAT=%2Fhome%2Fwww%2Fsawios%2Fpar%2F&FST=data.fst&FDT=data.fdt&ekran=WIN&lnkmsk=2&cond=AND&mask=2&F_00=00&V_00=Abugov+A.L.) 2.4. The information about inventions can be found at European Patent Office (please see https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=Abugov%20Aleksandr%20L&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=%5BSU%5D#!)

3. Since not all publications and inventions were available for different citing agencies and only small amount of publications were available for other than Soviet Union countries there is a full source of publications and inventions on https://independent.academia.edu/AlexanderAbugov This source contains copies of original publications and author’s certificates for inventions on Russian which can be downloaded. Those copies reflect significant contribution to science which with Soviet Union collapse is available now for other researchers. 4. Please also take into consideration that in publications the name of author is written in Russian tradition as A.L.Abugov or Abugov A.L. There is a good amount of citations in publications on Russian which probably are not reflected on Scholar or other than Russian languages citation agencies. 5. All described above mentions prove that subject is notable and worthy.

Please consider everything said above and reconsider your decision about that submission. Any your suggestion about improvements will be taken with gratitude.

Thanks!

MinskBel (talk) 02:48, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

2nd May Review of Draft:Shamim Hanafi

The draft has been updated. The two dead links removed and replaced by two new and reliable sources.

inam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inamabidi (talk • contribs) 12:17, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Precious three years!

Precious
Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda Arendt! Onel5969 TT me 13:03, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Please don't define the notability

Four films and a popular TV series make notable. Xx236 (talk) 12:56, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

You need to read notability guidelines. No they don't. And don't post on my page again. Onel5969 TT me 13:01, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Uh...what's that about? Talk pages are explicitly to discuss and work with each other. Xx236 has been around longer than I have, and I'd be willing to almost guarantee good faith from their edits. English is also not their native language. What's with the "don't post on my page again"? Sock (tock talk) 15:18, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi Sock - long time no speak. You're right about user talk pages, as long as the discussion is civil. I've simply grown tired of incivility and lack of AGF (which to me is a form of civility), the latter of which the other editor clearly was guilty of. And so when I come across it on talk pages, I ignore it. However, on my talk page, I can ask that they don't interact here. Which is what I did. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 16:21, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Protected

I hope you don't mind I've protected this page for a few hours, for reasons that are probably evident from the page history. I'll happily undo if this is unwanted. Thanks. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:54, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Not at all Ivanvector - I had put in a RPP request for a day or so. I appreciate it. Onel5969 TT me 20:52, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Green Lantern Corps film please to keep it and at the very least keep the edits and source material

Can we PLEASE keep the page Green Lantern Corps (film) ???

It's definitely going to happen.

The page has good sources and good edits that deserve to please be preserved.

Thank you so much !!!

96.249.215.234 (talk) 11:50, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Move

Hello. First of all thank you for filling out references in the said articles (I was never able to know how to use the automatic tools). The article Aldwych bus bomb needs to be moved to Aldwych bus bombing (since it's obviously a 'bombing'). The latter currently redirects to the present name. If you're an admin, are you able to perform this move now please? --Gateshead001 (talk) 12:22, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

No worries, Gateshead001, happy to help. Not an admin, but I have put in a request for the move, so it should happen in the next day or so. Keep up the good work. Lots of good article starts. Onel5969 TT me 12:26, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for the assistance! --Gateshead001 (talk) 12:41, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
@Gateshead001: I spotted this at CAT:SD, it's now  Done. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:36, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi thanks for reviewing so many of my new articles! Mccapra (talk) 23:06, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

No worries, Mccapra - Keep up the good work! Onel5969 TT me 23:46, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Why delete my entries？

I think Chongqing No.68 Middle School is a notable middle school.It is a demonstration junior high school in the Shapingba District and the school is one of the ten most influential middle schools in Chongqing, China.It is as notable as Chongqing Railway High School and Chongqing No.7 high School.Why these schools can have entries,Chongqing No.68 Middle School can not have entrie?--被你抛弃的哀伤 (talk) 13:57, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

First of all, the claim that it is one of the ten most notable is uncited. Second, very rarely are elementary or middle schools shown to be notable, as per WP:OUTCOMES. Third, pointing to other articles is called WP:OSE, and not a valid argument. To show a non-high school is notable, you have to have quite a bit of in-depth coverage from non-local sources, which this article does not have. Sorry. Onel5969 TT me 14:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Actually the correct procedure (per policy) which we apply to non notable primary and middle schools, is to blank and redirect them to the school district article (US), or to the article about the locality (rest of the word). We add the {{R from school}} templateto the redirect page. If as in the case of this article, the creator reverts the redirect, then it should be sent to AfD. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chongqing No.68 Middle School where you are welcome to participate. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:03, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Kudpung - You're absolutely correct, should have redirected. Onel5969 TT me 15:07, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Why return redirect? I am slightly annoyed

Somebody put a redirect to the new Lake Street Dive album "Free Yourself Up". I removed the redirect tag and placed the album information in is place. Please put something on the talk page of "Free Yourself Up". You leaped without thinking. Rcollman (talk) 15:53, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Well, "slightly annoyed", first, it's polite to provide a link to the page you're talking about. Second, seriously? Not a SINGLE reference. Of course it was going to be redirected. Please read the notability criteria at WP:GNG, and specifically what to do with an album with no indication of notability at WP:NALBUMS. Onel5969 TT me 15:57, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Updated Mark Friedman

Hello, you nominated Mark Friedman for deletion because it had no references. I fixed it. Lemme know if more has to be done.

Mattyice10 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattyice10 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Mattyice10 - There are two problems. First, the article is inaccurate. He does not currently play for the Flyers. He is not on their roster, and the single source doesn't show him playing for them. I'll remove that since it isn't verified. Apparently he plays for the Lehigh Valley Phantoms, and since he hasn't played 200 games in the AHL, he doesn't meet notability requirements as per WP:NHOCKEY. Don't know if he passes WP:GNG, so I've in-reviewed to allow a different editor to evaluate it. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 21:59, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for reviewing all of those pages of mine! I was pleasantly surprised when my 46 new notifications turned out not to be someone trying to hack my account.

—Compassionate727 (T·C) 22:41, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

No worries Compassionate727... nice job, keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 00:15, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

SHINee From Now On is Notable

You recently deleted SHINee From Now On because it "wasn't notable." It IS notable. THis was their final release as 5, AND it contains unreleased tracks that feaure Jonghyun pothsumously.-K-popguardian (talk) 16:27, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Dude, you alive?-K-popguardian (talk) 00:57, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Dude... you coherent? If you are going to be irrational and rude, don't post here. Onel5969 TT me 00:59, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Dixon ES

Re: Dixon Elementary, User:Kausticgirl said there's a documentary about it. I'll investigate further. WhisperToMe (talk) 14:03, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Found some refs: https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/the-curators-of-dixon-school/Film?oid=6946139 and http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/11/15/new-film-looks-at-arts-influence-on-dixon-elementary-school-students/ - Will restore the article WhisperToMe (talk) 14:11, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Dua Lipa

I'm the creator of List of awards and nominations received by Dua Lipa page. Did it met the requirements to not get removed? Was it accepted?

Rodrigo1198 (talk) 18:30, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

The threshold for list articles is very low, but it's not a question of acceptance/rejection, but one of does it pass the notability guidelines. This does. Onel5969 TT me 23:54, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

The New Page Patroller's Barnstar

Thanks for your hard work picking up the slack of late! Cheers, — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 02:38, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

College football pages...

Every FBS and FCS teams have their own pages going back at least 5 years now. For you to single out 2018 Saint Francis Red Flash football team and 2018 Sacred Heart Pioneers football team and redirect them and not the other 280 pages is crazy. Please take your reasoning to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football before redirecting again. Bsuorangecrush (talk) 03:29, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

I did. And please understand application of guidelines, rather than WP:OSE arguments. Will revert to redirects as per WP:BRD until a consensus is reached on the talk page. Onel5969 TT me 10:46, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Hasty proposed delation of Géza Pálffy

Dear Onel5969, thank you for your message and I'd like to congratulate to you for The New Page Patroller's Barnstar but I think you're not right but we are human beings and to err is human. I think you have not pay enough attention to the fact that I am an confirmed editor and I am aware of the facts of notability guideline for academics and the rule of WP:NSCHOLAR and the article in question is highly suitable for creating a wikipedia article. Your nomination for delation was pretty husty, I think, and I understand your intention to defend the interests of Wikipedia but on the one hand the article was still in its start point, I've just started the first steps so it was an unfriendly act to offend this article but on the other hand I may have made a mistake that I've forgotten putting the template "under constrction" though this article is abouut a notable man, scientist who is respected in my country and in Central and Eastern Europe. First he has lotsa references in several other aricles becase his publications are used in lotsa articles:

You are not right, he owns several secondary sources and not only in Hngarian bt in English, too. I think if a person can be found in a contemporary biograpichal dictionary, that person can also deserve the article in wikipedia. A lexicon article has been written about Géza Pálffy in Hungary:

  • Géza Pálffy (in Hungarian). In: Béla Varga (ed-in-chief.): Veszprém megyei kortárs életrajzi lexikon (A Contemporary Biographical Dictionary of VIPs in Veszprém County). Veszprém: Veszprém Megyei Önkormányzat Közgyűlése (Self Government of Veszprém County). 2001. Retrieved 2018-05-23.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: others (link)

I understand you do not know this historian in Amarica but the scientists who research the history of Habsburg Monarchy in the world, they know his name. He is young, in his forties but he is among the respected and notable historians. I have extened the article and added to the article all the sources about it and there exist lotsa newspaper articles about it but unfortunately they were published in Hngarian and his name can also be found on the webpage of the Government of Hungary because he can have receaved a very important civil award, the Order of Merit of the Republic of Hungary from the minister of Human Capacities, Zoltán Balog on 8 May 2015. If you do not understand Hungarian but you can find his name easily in the webpage below:

I hope I have managed to prove my arguments and standpoint that the article in question should be kept on English wikipedia and now you will give up the idea to delate it and as you have written it to me, I can remove the text that looks like this: {{proposed deletion/dated...}} and you'll accept this, you agree with me and you won't change my editing and you would no longer like to delate it. Best regards.Borgatya (talk) 01:05, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Flawed AfD

I believe you made a flawed AfD nomination here [2] by representing the Order of Canada as the 2nd highest civilian decoration. That is technically true BUT the only thing higher is Order_of_Merit which you can see is restricted to 24 living recipients across the entire Commonwealth. It is quite possible none of them are even Canadian. Comparing the Order of Canada to the second highest military honor is quite misleading. Every Order of Canada recipient meets WP:ANYBIO #1. Legacypac (talk) 02:57, 24 May 2018 (UTC). I've raised the discussion here Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(people)#Order_of_Canada Legacypac (talk) 03:10, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

You have the right to that opinion. To me, if a person has won the Silver Star, that is higher than ANY civilian award. Yet, that is not considered significant by WP standards. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 03:30, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Songs of Kurogane Communication

I merged the two articles I created into one. Plus, I also fixed the weird sentences. I need your review. And lastly, I'm putting two more citations eventually. --Komitsuki (talk) 08:05, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Daneta Wollmann

In an effort to try to learn from my mistakes I see you reviewed Daneta Wollmann. So magistrate judges also qualify for WP:JUDGE criteria 1? I had read that to just mean congressionally confirmed Judges. Or was she notable for some other aspect? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:35, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

You could be right, Barkeep49, although that's not the way I read wp:judge. As per #1 of that, which reads in part, "...judges who have held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office...", and I'm not sure, and there is no direct guidance as to whether or not magistrate judges should or should not be included in that designation. If the district she served in were statewide, than it would be easy to include, but since it only covers the western portion of the state, I can see why your position has merit. Onel5969 TT me 20:07, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Witchcraft XVI: Hollywood Coven

If you want the page to be removed, ask for it, don't blank. I have added notability template according to your critics.Xx236 (talk) 06:26, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Debra Dean

Don't be discouraged by some of the spiteful comments in response to your deletion nomination. There are a lot of so-called contributors around who expect others to do all their work for them. Deb (talk) 09:46, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Deb - thanks for the encouragement. Learned a while ago that for many editors WP:AGF is mere lip service, including some who participated in that AfD. While I understand that WP:AFDNOTCLEANUP, sometimes it is the only way to get an article improved, or to resolve the issue of whether or not it should be an article or should stay a redirect. In this instance I checked to see if her novels had articles, and saw only the stub article without a single independent source. As I was not researching the notability of her books, my searches only turned up the several reviews to Madonnas, plus a single review of one of her other novels. In addition, there wasn't a single in-depth article about the author herself. In fact, despite the recent good work by Coolbeapple, there still isn't a single in-depth reference about her from an independent source. Since the editor who turned the redirect into an article was too lazy to put any effort into the article and source it properly, and I couldn't find the sources, AfD appeared to be the route to go. Actually, I had decided to close the discussion and remove my nom, until Eppstein's comment. Which made me quite done with the matter. Took both the article and the discussion off my watchlist. Incivility is one of my target points. No need for it. And while as I said before, AFDNOTCLEANUP, I actually enjoy when an AfD I began results in turning a garbage article (or in this case 2, if you include Madonnas), into decent ones. Again, thanks. Onel5969 TT me 19:57, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Too true. I feel the same about it. Taking something to AfD (or speedy deleting it) can get you a lot of flak - God knows I've had plenty of it - but sometimes it's the only way to highlight this issue and get people to actually do something about it. Deb (talk) 07:46, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Stub Query

Hi, I'm still relatively new here, but just had a quick query as to why Brisbane Street, Perth was categorized as a New South Wales geography stub when it's in WA. Thanks. MadamePhoenica (talk) 00:44, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi again. Just wanted to let you know it eventually occurred to me why it was listed as a NSW stub *face palm* lol MadamePhoenica (talk) 01:03, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
Yeah - screwed that one up. It's now corrected. Onel5969 TT me 12:55, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
Yeah the Average Australian wouldnt know much about the geography of New York for that matter, so the same is expected in reverse - at least you are able to correct... thanks for that. I remain nostalgic for the editors (from who knows where) who think Tasmania is a country... JarrahTree 13:05, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks JarrahTree - While I don't do a lot of editing on Australia articles, I do a fair bit. I simply mis-read the article and picked up on the fact it was named after the governor of NSW, rather than the more important fact that it was in Perth. Onel5969 TT me 13:15, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
Hahah - I have done worse (I dont admit to my mistakes that much) - but thank you for your help with the Australian project area - much appreciate your help JarrahTree 13:29, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Portal:Serbia reverts

Can you explain why you reverted three of my updates to the selected articles; like Portal:Serbia/Selected article/17? I see no benefit to the portal.--Auric talk 12:04, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Can you explain to me why you're asking me about stuff I didn't do? It was not I who reverted you. Onel5969 TT me 12:57, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
Woops, Sorry!--Auric talk 15:35, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Rewiew

Hi Onel5969, please rewiew this pages:

Thank you and have a nice day Patriccck 15:20, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Chellapilla Venkata Rao

This man was important in the history of the Proteaceae. Most of his work has not lasted, but people did have to argue against him to reach current consensuses. His work has not been republished, nor has it yet found its way into online repositories. I hope you will give me the time to find further references to him (probably most of which will not be capable of adding much to the story). But he was prolific and influential in his time. MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:44, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, simply does not meet either WP:GNG or WP:SCHOLAR. Onel5969 TT me 13:09, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Which is why at the talk page I have said that considering the unchallenged articles about botanists with similarly low publication rates etc that dont fit the absurd metric havent been touched - making this an undue exception. Most practising botanists have not been in institutions to qualify the academic parameter - they have been government civil servants - and the strictures simply do not apply JarrahTree 13:24, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Which is an invalid WP:OSE argument, which is why I ignored it. Onel5969 TT me 13:27, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
fair enough but it does not convince me that there arent large numbers of potential stubs about botanists, grologists, veterinary surgeons and other civil servant professionals that deserve to stand free of metrics that are confined to workplace environments that simply that do not corellate relative to publication obsessed academics JarrahTree 13:31, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
WP has guidelines. If you wish them changed, make a proposal. Onel5969 TT me 13:32, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Hahaha - in all WP:AGF - try it. Nothing personal, it is a long and complicated issue, here is not the place to explain. JarrahTree 13:42, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
It is tied into a complex argument about the origins of the pedia in the states where things like scholar make sense - specially if you are tied in with medicos, psychs, and academics - but in the global south and post colonial environments like India and Australia the base of the metric assumptions simply dont fit - but short of being in a sit down situation, lots of coffees/beers or wines at something like a wikimania - hey this is not the place. JarrahTree 13:55, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Take Me to the Kaptin

Could you please explain to me as to why the page Take Me to the Kaptin was deleted and redirected to Prism (Prism album). I believe the page was not finished and was not given a fair chance to be fixed up and add additional information. I could not see any vandalism present. The page is notable and should be visible to the public. An explanation is due. LilJohnnyWimple (talk) 13:06, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

The page was not deleted, simply redirected. Please see WP:NALBUM for pertinent notability criteria, none of which was shown in the article. If the article is a draft in progress, it should be in the draftspace, not the mainspace, until it is ready. The vandalism is due to the personal attack. Onel5969 TT me 13:08, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Ken Layne

Hi there! Looking at the edit history for journalist Ken Layne, I see that you were involved in its move from AfC to mainspace in June 2014. Last week on the article's talk page, I proposed a rewritten version that brings it up-to-date, improves the prose quality, and uses better sources more carefully. I would make the change myself, except I happen to be representing Mr. Layne as a paid consultant. Following the WP:COI guideline, I think it wiser to avoid editing directly and instead seek agreement from a volunteer to implement the changes. If you're too busy or not interested, I would certainly understand, but if you might be willing to help with this subject again, I would be most grateful. Let me know when you have the chance. Best, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 13:33, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Following up just to say, this has now been addressed. Best, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 15:17, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Clover (band)

I am checking to see why four albums I entered (Homestead Redemption, The Best Of Clover: An American Band In London, Live At The Paradiso, and Live At Winterland) were removed and redirected to the Clover (band) page. The band members Alex Call, John McFee, Sean Hopper, and Huey Lewis who appear on these albums are well known musicians and I would consider them notable (867-5309, Doobie Brothers, Huey Lewis and The News). Clover is releasing their new album Homestead Redemption pretty soon as well.Eskew (talk) 14:11, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Eskew - as I said in my edit summary, none of them show any indication of notability, and as per WP:NALBUM should be redirected to the band. If they do meet notability criteria, please add that, with appropriate citations to the articles. Please be aware that notability is not inherited, and simply because the band, or band members are notable, does not make their albums notability guaranteed. Same with an upcoming album. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 14:15, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
OK, thanks for the info.Eskew (talk) 15:03, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
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