User talk:Oidia

May 2007

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Japanese Spitz

While your particular photo was helpful to the page, as it was of greater quality and illustrative of the breed's appearance than other photos, please keep in mind that Wikipedia is not an image gallery for your pets and all contributions must have clear encyclopedic merit. Thank you VanTucky 23:33, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

hehe ok Oidia 03:21, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Max Martin photo

I saw your question at User talk:^demon: may I allow myself a reply? We cannot generally use studio photos unless we have specific clearance. In general, under U.S. law, the photographer holds copyright on his/her photos. If he is hired by a record company to do promo shots for the artist, he/she will license the copyright for the particular photo shoot contract. If the photo is really great, the photographer can get the credit (and, undoubtedly, more money from the recording company). Most promotional photos are not that great, but who are we to judge? It is no easier to get concert photos, which are often covered by a specific sort of copyright law (see related rights). Wikipedia prefers to wait until we have either

1. a photo taken by a Wikipedian themselves (not easy to get, but at least one celebrity photographer gives us images for nothing to support our cause); or
2. a photo released by the record company and the photographer (fewer people to talk to..., again WP has some success in this area).

I don't want to discourage you from contributing to Wikipedia, but, at the moment, we cannot accept most promo photos of stars. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any copyright questions, and keep up the good work. Physchim62 (talk) 11:39, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Cool thanks!!! Oidia 11:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I just got your note, and I thought I'd put a bit more into there. We do also have fair use images, however those are discouraged, especially when a free alternative is available. As far as any living person, fair use pretty much says no though. Hope this clears things up a bit more ^demon^{[omg plz]} 14:51, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanx Oidia 13:28, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Wars and disasters table formatting

Hi there Oidia. Since you turned the war list into a sort table, I've been trying to fix the column lists so that the sort table actually returns useful results.

The first thing I did was completely fill out the high estimates column so that users can sort the table by high estimates if they want to. That meant duplicating estimates where there is only one but I think that's a very small trade-off for the extra functionality.

The problem I have right now is that I'm trying to fix the war dates so that the sort table for that column returns results listed by date. The only apparent way to do this is to put the start and end dates into separate columns, because otherwise the sort function sorts the dates incorrectly.

So far so good, but when I actually try and do this, I end up with a very wide start ("From") column for some reason. Here's what the table looks like (I haven't posted it at the page yet). Can you help me out a bit here? I can't figure out where it's going wrong.

These figures include deaths of civilians from diseases, famine, etc. as well as deaths of soldiers in battle.

Where only one estimate is available, it appears in both the low and high estimates. This is a sortable table. Click on the column sort buttons to sort results numerically or alphabetically.

Lowest Estimate	Highest Estimate	Event	Location	From	To	Other
60,000,000	72,000,000	World War II	Asia, Europe, Africa, Pacific	1939	1945	see World War II casualties
40,000,000	40,000,000	Three Kingdoms War	China	184	280	see the next row
3,000,000	7,000,000	Yellow Turban Rebellion	China	184	205	part of Three Kingdoms War
36,000,000	36,000,000	An Shi Rebellion	China	756	763
30,000,000	60,000,000	Mongol Conquests	Asia	1207	1279
25,000,000	25,000,000	Manchu conquest of Ming Dynasty	China	1616	1644
20,000,000	50,000,000	Taiping Rebellion	China	1851	1864
20,000,000	20,000,000	Second Sino-Japanese War	China	1931	1945
15,000,000	66,000,000	World War I	Europe	1914	1918	see World War I casualties note that the larger number includes Spanish flu deaths
10,000,000	10,000,000	Warring States Era	China	BC475	BC221
5,000,000	9,000,000	Russian Civil War	Russia	1917	1921
3,800,000	13,800,000	Second Congo War	Democratic Republic of the Congo	1998	2004
3,500,000	16,000,000	Napoleonic Wars	Europe	1804	1815	see Napoleonic Wars casualties
3,000,000	8,000,000	Thirty Years' War	Germany	1618	1648
2,500,000	3,500,000	Korean War	Korean Peninsula	1950	1953
2,300,000	3,800,000	Vietnam War	South East Asia	1945	1975	see the next 5 rows
300,000	1,300,000	First Indochina War	Vietnam	1945	1954	part of Vietnam War
100,000	300,000	Vietnamese Civil War	Vietnam	1954	1960	part of Vietnam War
1,750,000	2,100,000	American phase	Vietnam	1960	1973	part of Vietnam War
170,000	170,000	Final phase	Vietnam	1973	1975	part of Vietnam War
175,000	1,150,000	Secret War	Vietnam	1962	1975	part of Vietnam War
2,000,000	4,000,000	French Wars of Religion	Europe	1562	1598
300,000	3,000,000	Bangladesh Liberation War	Bangladesh, Pakistan, India	1971
1,500,000	2,000,000	Afghan Civil War	Afghanistan	1979	present	see the next row
1,000,000	1,500,000	Soviet intervention	Afghanistan	1979	1989	part of Afghan Civil War
1,300,000	6,100,000	Chinese Civil War	China	1928	1949	see the 2 rows note that this figure excludes World War II casualties
300,000	3,100,000	Early Stages	China	1937<		part of Chinese Civil War
1,000,000	3,000,000	Late Stages	China	1945>		part of Chinese Civil War
1,000,000	1,200,000	Seven Years' War	Europe, Africa, India, North America, Philippines	1756	1763
1,000,000	1,000,000	Iran-Iraq War	Persian Gulf	1980	1988
1,000,000	1,000,000	Second Sudanese Civil War	Southern Sudan	1983	2002
1,000,000	1,000,000	Nigerian Civil War	Nigeria	1967	1970
970,000	970,000	American Civil War	the Union and Southern states of USA	1861	1865	including 350,000 from disease
900,000	1,000,000	Mozambique Civil War	Republic of Mozambique	1976	1993
800,000	800,000	Congo Civil War	Zaire	1991	1997
600,000	1,300,000	First Jewish-Roman War	Judea	66	73
580,000	580,000	Bar Kokhba’s revolt		132	135
550,000	550,000	Somali Civil War	Somalia	1988	present
500,000	1,000,000	Spanish Civil War	Spain	1936	1939
500,000	500,000	Angolan Civil War	Angola	1975	2002
500,000	500,000	Ugandan Civil War	Uganda	1979	1986
400,000	1,000,000	War of the Triple Alliance	Paraguay	1864	1870
371,000	371,000	Continuation War	Finland, Karelia, Murmansk	1941	1944
300,000	2,000,000	Mexican Revolution	Mexico	1910	1920
300,000	300,000	First Burundi Civil War	Burundi	1972
270,000	300,000	Crimean War	Crimean Peninsula, Baltic Sea	1854	1856
255,000	1,120,000	Philippine-American War	The Philippines	1898	1913
230,000	1,400,000	Ethiopian Civil War	Ethiopia	1974	1991
220,000	220,000	Liberian Civil War	Liberia	1989	2003
200,000	800,000	Warlord Era	China	1917	1928
214,000	655,000+	Iraq War	Iraq	2003	present
200,000	200,000	Sierra Leone Civil War	Sierra Leone	1991	2000
200,000	200,000	Guatemaltec Civil War	Guatemala	1960	1996
190,000	190,000	Franco-Prussian War	France, Germany	1870	1871
150,000	150,000	Lebanese Civil War	Lebanon	1975	1990
150,000	150,000	North Yemen Civil War	Yemen	1962	1970
150,000	150,000	Russo-Japanese War	Manchuria, Yellow Sea	1904	1905
148,000	1,000,000	Winter War	Eastern Finland	1939
125,000	125,000	Eritrean-Ethiopian War	Ethiopia, Eritrea	1998	2000
120,000	120,000	Bosnian War	Bosnia, Herzegovina	1992	1995
120,000	120,000	Algerian Civil War	Algeria	1991	present
100,500	100,500	Chaco War	Gran Chaco	1932	1935
100,000	1,000,000	War of the two brothers	Peru, Ecuador	1531	1532
100,000	100,000	Gulf War	Persian Gulf	1991
100,000	1,000,000	Algerian War of Independence	Algeria	1954	1962
100,000	100,000	One Thousand Days War		1899	1901
75,000	75,000	El Salvador Civil War	El Salvador	1980	1992
75,000	75,000	Second Boer War	South Africa	1898	1902
69,000	69,000	Internal conflict in Peru	Peru	1980	present
60,000	60,000	Sri Lanka/Tamil conflict	Sri Lanka	1983	present
60,000	60,000	Nicaraguan Rebellion		1972	1991
50,000	200,000	First Chechen War	Chechnya	1994	1996
41,00	100,000	Kashmiri insurgency	Kashmir	1989	present
35,000	40,000	War of the Pacific	South America	1879	1884
36,000	36,000	Finnish Civil War	Finland	1918
31,000	100,000	Second Chechen War	Chechnya, North Caucasus	1999	present
30,000	30,000	Turkey/PKK conflict	Turkey	1984	present
30,000	30,000	Sino-Vietnamese War	Vietnam	1979
23,384	23,384	Indo-Pakistani War of 1971	India, Pakistan, Bangladesh	1971
23,000	23,000	Nagorno-Karabakh War	Nagorno-Karabakh, Armenia, Azerbaijan	1988	1994
20,000	49,600	U.S. Invasion of Afghanistan	Afghanistan	2001	2002
15,000	20,000	Croatian War of Independence	Croatia	1991	1995
13,000	13,000	South Yemen Civil War	Yemen	1986
7,264	10,000	Indo-Pakistani War of 1965	Indian subcontinent	1965
7,000	24,000	War of 1812	North America, Mexican Gulf, Atlantic, Pacific	1812	1815
7,000	7,000	Kosovo War	Kosovo	1996	1999	disputed
5,000	5,000	Turkish invasion of Cyprus	Cyprus	1974
4,000	4,000	Waziristan War	Waziristan, Pakistan	2004	2006
3,700	13,700	Northern Ireland conflict	Ireland	1969	1998
3,000	3,000	Civil war in Côte d'Ivoire	Côte d'Ivoire	2002	present
2,604	7,000	Indo-Pakistani War of 1947	Kashmir	1947	1948
2,000	2,000	Football War	El Salvador, Honduras	1969
1,975	4,500+	violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict	Gaza Strip	2000	present
1,547	2,173+	Israel-Lebanon conflict	Lebanon, Israel	2006
1,724	1,724	War of Lapland	Lapland, Finland	1945
1,500	1,500	Romanian Revolution	Romania	1989
1,000	1,000	Zapatista uprising	Chiapas	1994
907	907	Falklands War	Falkland Islands, South Georgia	1982
884	6,000	Kargil War	Kashmir	1999
537	3,000	Operation Just Cause	Panama	1989

- Thanks, Gatoclass 13:53, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Bah, no wonder it wasn't working for me, I was tweaking the wrong values for the columns! I was tweaking the values after the names instead of the ones before :/

Anyhow, thanks for helping me sort that one out. I've made a couple of extra adjustments to make the "Event" column a bit narrower and the "Other" column wider - 'cos it looked kinda squeezed for space at the end there - and posted it to the article.

One final minor problem. Some wars are part of a larger war. e.g. the Vietnam War are divided into smaller events, and I've listed the "American Phase" and "Final Phase" and "Secret War" etc underneath the "Vietnam War". If a user sort the columns by death toll. Those minor events will be pushed down the list. So should we just let it go down the list? - Oidia.

Yeah, I noticed that myself some time ago when playing with the sort buttons, and while I don't think it hurts at all, I have been thinking about maybe taking some of the larger wars with multiple entries and putting them into separate tables. So you'd have the total figure for Vietnam in the big table, and then a separate table for the Vietnam war itself giving a breakdown of all the separate phases, as well as the total figure.

I think if we did it that way, it would add a lot of possibilities to the page, enabling us to give breakdowns of other wars and major events in separate tables as well, in addition to alternative listings, which I think would be quite useful. Because there are a lot of events with different aspects to them that could be covered in more detail IMO, what do you think? Gatoclass 07:49, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Cool :) I certainly think it's worth experimenting with, as long as it is isn't overdone. So if you want to put Vietnam into a separate table, that's fine by me. I'd do it myself but I have some other stuff I want to catch up on right now. Gatoclass 08:06, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Famine table

Nice work on the new table Oidia. But here's a wee tip I discovered in screwing about with tables over the last week or so - you don't need to include the "rowspan="1" statement. Rowspan and colspan statements are really only useful if you want a row or column to stretch across more than one row or column, because they all default to "1" anyhow. Cheers, Gatoclass 13:31, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

wow thanks for letting me know! :D Oidia 02:01, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Nmicon

Thanks for your concerns, as am myself i am a fan of Britney Spears, he keeps on insulting peoples info on Britneys new album, but thanks for your concern

Dom10194rules

Nmicon

I'm not laughing, im just saying that he affends people on peaoples opinions and info on certain topics and i think he should keep his buisness to himself...

Dom10194rules

Hey Oidia

Hey thanks for message. Talk to you soon.

Britney article

Hey, I've reviewed the article for GA and I'm afraid that I failed it. It needs a considerable amount of work, but hopefully you'll be glad to hear that I made plenty of notes on the talk page. Let me know if I can be of any help now or in the future with getting Britney to GA or further. All the best, The Rambling Man 18:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll do my best to improve the article on your suggestions. Oidia (talk) 23:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Question

I saw you removed the image I added to the Britney article...I left you a message in that article's talk section explaining my reasons for adding it. I would appreciate a response, and hopefully a community debate as to whether or not to leave the image in. Thank you :) Xoxixox 18:30, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

The answer is in your talk page. BTW I wasn't the one that removed it. Oidia (talk) 04:22, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Toxic

Hey! Thanks for the message. I noted in the talk page that I disagree with the editor on this one. Since our article doesn't imply she co-wrote Toxic, it seems out of place and awkward to mention that she didn't. I say we let it slide and the editor probably won't notice (or a different editor will not even care). --Circasix 13:59, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah ok. Oidia (talk) 14:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Forbes

Oidia, the Forbes quote is irrelevant to the opening of Britney Spears' article. It was half a decade ago. There is a new list every year. If you wish to add this somewhere under the subheadings below, especially about the 2002, go ahead. I hope you understand. Maddyfan 14:31, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I put it in the career achievement section just above the "kissing Madonna" paragraph. But everytime I read it, it just seems out of place. Oidia (talk) 23:50, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

List of wars

Thanks Oidia :) I guess it had to be done, a lot of people had said the page needed breaking up over the last year, so it was really just a matter of finding the time to sit down and figure out what ought to go where :)

Now that I've done it though, I think it was the right thing to do, because it makes the lists more manageable, and it's actually inspired me to do some editing of some sections I've never even bothered looking at before! Gatoclass 07:59, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

well done. Oidia (talk) 09:53, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Japanese Spitz

The addition of the history section is a big improvement. Good work! I made a couple of minor tweaks here and there, and then moved the contents of the grooming section to 'health', since the information about the dog's coat can really be classified as a health issue. I then changed the title of 'care' to 'lifestyle', to better describe this as an encyclopedia article. Before just outright promoting this, I wanted to check to see what you thought of the reorganizational changes first? But I think it's just about there. Cheers! Dr. Cash 19:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Largest cities throughout history

That's a good list you've created. But there is one problem, and I also have one suggestion.

The problem is the first source you use, Chandler and Fox 1974. That is the first pf two editions of Chandler's work, and he himseelf declared on p.v of the second (1987) edition, in a prominent notice, that "this book ...supercedes the "Three Thousand Years of Urban Grrowth" that I wrote with Gerald Fox...it is rewritten in every page with vastly improved data". In other words, the 1974 book should no longer be used as a source of city data. I suggest you delete that column.

My other suggestion concerns the "country" description of the several cities. It would help to make them more history-specific. For Egypt, or China, for example, the number or name of dynasty might be useful; for the "Iraq" cities it might we worth adding Nippur, city state, Sumer etc.

I should glad to help if needed. ```` Mon3310 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mon3310 (talk • contribs) 01:41, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, even though I created the article, I didn't insert the majority of the contents, someone else did. And feel free to change and add things. Oidia (talk) 06:39, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

All the best

Keep your good work on Britney Spears going on. But before you nominate it for FA, i would like to suggest that make it flawless. Because if there are some mistakes, then people will Oppose. Even though you might correct the oppositions, that word "oppose" usually stays on the page (as no one bothers to remove it). Therefore, i would like you to go through whatever oppositions Gwen Stefani went through. I will too scrutinize the article and let you know what's missing. It's nice to know that at last this article is in hands of a fan who follows Wikipedia rules. Keep up the good work! Enjoy your time on wikipedia. Luxurious.gaurav 10:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Oidia (talk) 13:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The lead (or the first paragraph) of britney spears opens with tivial knowledge. It contains number of copies sold (75-75 million etc.) and more statistics. There are more things to mention than sales. Refer Gwen Stefani. So re-arrangement of the lead is required. Luxurious.gaurav 17:39, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmm OK, I'll see what I can do. Oidia (talk) 04:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I think other editors will not like having the lead revamp without discussing it, so I'll post it in the talk page first and see what people thinks. Oidia (talk) 12:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Here is my Version of the lead

Britney Jean Spears (born December 2, 1981) is an American pop music singer, songwriter, dancer, actress, and author. Her debut album ...Baby one more time, released in January 1999, propelled her to stardom selling twenty million copies worldwide. It spawned the singles "...Baby one more time", which topped the Billboard Hot 100, "You drive me crazy", and "Born to make you happy". She released her sophomore studio album Oops!... I Did It Again in 2000 with similar success. Her third album Britney was released in November 2001, followed by a fourth album In The Zone in November 2003. The collection Greatest Hits: My Prerogative was released in November 2004.

Spears has sold over 83 million records worldwide according to Zomba Label Group and has sold over 75 million albums worldwide. The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) ranks her as the eighth best-selling female artist in American music history, having sold 31 million albums in the U.S.

Spears's fame in the music industry has led her to experiment with other forms of media, including film and reality television. As an actress, she is most noted for her starring role in the 2002 movie Crossroads. Spears has also made guest appearances in various other movies and television programs. Her success as a singer led her to several high-profile advertising deals and endorsements including her own perfume line.

Spears's personal life has gained much attention from the media. In particular, her marriage to back-up dancer Kevin Federline and the birth of their two children, Sean Preston and Jayden James. The couple's divorce in November 2006 was highly publicized and has been followed by a legal battle for custody of their sons.

Her fifth album entitled Blackout is scheduled to be released worldwide in November 2007.

You may make the necessary changes. Luxurious.gaurav 05:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

My pleasure. Always ready to help. I think there should be a minimum of 3 paragraphs. It may exceed to a digestable number. Luxurious.gaurav 12:08, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Just wrote in to inform about my name change ;) Indianescence 16:49, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Cool, I changed my name too. Oops!...I did it again (talk) 03:11, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

SO the article could not get FA status. It's not easy to hit gold at the first go. It takes some time. But i am sure one day it will be at FA. But, for that, whatever objections were taken in this FA nomination should be dealt with. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Indianescence (talk • contribs) 16:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Britney Spears performance at 2007 MTV Video Music Awards

According to Wikipedia Page History Statistics, you are one of the top contributors to Britney Spears. Britney Spears performance at 2007 MTV Video Music Awards probably should be merged into Britney Spears. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 08:33, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I personally think that a 3 minute performance at an Award show does not deserve its own article. And I also think that there is enough detail in the Britney Spears article about that particular performance. I think maybe merging Britney Spears performance at 2007 MTV Video Music Awards into 2007 MTV Video Music Awards is better idea. Thanks for the suggestion and I'll work on it. Oidia (talk) 08:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Chrome Division

I have made most of the improvements you suggested, and explained on the talk page why I have not done the others. If you would rather wait the week, you needn't re-review, but I thought you may want to read some of my answers. J Milburn 12:09, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I gather you work heavily on Britney Spears- if you ever send this to peer review, please feel free to drop me a line, and I'll review for you. J Milburn 12:37, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh my God!

How do you think Britney is going to react to losing custody?!? To say I am stunned by this development would be a massive understatement. I can't believe Fed-ex is gonna get custody. They'd be better off in foster care than with him. Sorry to just drop all this on your talk page, but you're the only one I can think of who is as into (read obsessed with) Britney as I am. Jeffpw 21:29, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

You got that right about Britney having to pay all that money to Federline. I have no doubt he will try to use this to extort as much money out of her as he can--I think that is the whole reason behind this custody battle in the first place. He just wanted more in the divorce settlement than he got. My biggest concern is that this will set her on a downward spiral of partying, etc, and that she will end up going down the same road as Anna Nicole Smith. By the way, do you read Britney Spears watch? They give a news roundup every day, and if something incredible happens (like the custody thing yesterday) they email you with a Breaking News Alert. Jeffpw 06:57, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Britney Spears Number one singles

Hello. As I said before, I think it is pretty useless to have yet ANOTHER 'total' section, one is enough. This is the format that has been used in all the articles that include the number-one singles section. Also, we're only considering the most important music markets, saying that "Toxic" reached No. 1 in four charts is pretty inaccurate considering that it did reach the top position in some other medium/small markets that aren't included in the section. Kraft. 07:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Number one singles

The following singles reached number one in the United World Chart, the U.S., the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, Germany and/or France. For a full singles discography, see Britney Spears discography.

Year	Single	Peak positions
		WORLD	US	UK	CAN	AUS	GER	FRA
1998	"...Baby One More Time"	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
1999	"(You Drive Me) Crazy"	1	10	5	13	12	4	2
	"Born to Make You Happy"	1	not released	1	21	not released	3	9
2000	"Oops!...I Did It Again"	1	9	1	4	1	2	4
	"Lucky"	2	23	5	5	3	1	16
2003	"Me Against the Music" (feat. Madonna)	1	35	2	2	1	5	11
2004	"Toxic"	1	9	1	1	1	4	3
	"Everytime"	1	15	1	2	1	4	2
Total Number-one hits		7	1	5	2	5	2	1

Gimme More

The video got leaked to YouTube. Here it is; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMONDcp3H1U —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffpw (talk • contribs) 11:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanx. Oidia (talk) 11:18, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Children of Bodom Britney Spears

As a Britney fan, have you heard of COB's cover of Oops? Just wondering.. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.164.220.10 (talk) 01:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I read about it in the Oops album article. But no I've never actually heard the song. Oidia (talk) 01:48, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, you can check it out right here. Its basically COB's cover synched to Britney's video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGmTYBiKGdY&mode=related&search=

OK cool. Oidia (talk) 04:09, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey, so what do you think of the cover? The fifth burning bush 08:11, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

I think it's OK, still like the original better though. Thanks again for sharing with me. Oops!...I did it again (talk) 11:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Our Britney :-)

Well that is good news! I guess having her mom and sis with her helps, after all. I heard some old hag screamed at Britney when she took Jamie to the mall in Beverly Hills, and Jamie screamed back at her to "fuck off!". That's what family's for! By the way, for all the Britney news that's fit to print (and a good deal that isn't), go to BritneySpearsWatch. Jeffpw 05:16, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Map

Yes, although the map still requires lots of work, I think it is appropriate for those articles. But I'll have to keep an eye out for opinions from other editors. Thank you for your compliments! Ian Kiu (ha...) 06:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi! I looked at the discussion at the talk page of China and found a bunch of heated debate instead... anyway, I think the map is "not" necessary well-made (the speed each map exchanges are quite slow), and the boundaries it included might not well-present each dynasties (for example, it only includes a certain era in each dynasty's history; for Yuan Dynasty, it choose the largest territory, yet for the Ming Dynasty, it choose its declining era in (1580s) when it lost many territories). I think the articles are enough to inform the readers, the animated map might not actually serve as a good illustration after all.--Sevilledade 02:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Britney Spears lead - final tweak

Britney Jean Spears (born December 2, 1981) is an American pop music singer, songwriter, dancer, actress, and author. Her debut album ...Baby One More Time, released in January 1999, propelled her to international stardom selling twenty five million copies worldwide.[ref] It spawned the singles "...Baby One More Time", which topped the Billboard Hot 100,[ref] "(You Drive Me) Crazy", and "Born to Make You Happy". She released her sophomore studio album Oops!... I Did It Again in 2000 with similar success,[ref] along with the singles "Oops!... I Did It Again", "Lucky" and "Stronger". Her third album Britney was released in November 2001, followed by the fourth album In The Zone in November 2003. The album's lead single "Toxic" won Spears her first Grammy Award.[ref] The collection Greatest Hits: My Prerogative was released in November 2004. Her fifth album Blackout is scheduled to be released worldwide in November 2007.

Spears has sold over 83 million records worldwide according to Zomba Label Group and has sold over 75 million albums worldwide according to Forbes Magazine.[ref][ref] The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) ranks her as the eighth best-selling female artist in American music history, having sold 31 million albums in the U.S.[ref] Spears's fame in the music industry has led her to experiment with other forms of media, including film and television. As an actress, she is most noted for her starring role in the 2002 movie Crossroads.[ref] Spears has also made guest appearances in various other movies and television programs. Her success as a singer led her to several high-profile advertising deals and endorsements including her own perfume line.

Spears's personal life has gained much attention from the media. In particular, her marriage to back-up dancer Kevin Federline in 2004 and the birth of their two children, Sean Preston and Jayden James. The couple's divorce in November 2006 was highly publicized and has been followed by a legal battle for custody of their sons. Spears has also been the subject of media scrutiny following a series of controversial behaviours throughout 2007.

OK, I'm gonna post this in the article's talk page and will change the actual lead in the actual article soon. Oops!...I did it again (talk) 12:23, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Your thoughts on Spears

Hi, how long have you been a Britney fan? You say that you're not a fan anymore? Me, I used to be a huge fan. But then I started to hate her somewhere in 2004. Now I kinda feel sorry for her, and what she's going through. What about you? What do you think? The fifth burning bush 10:55, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Please Note

Amazon.com is not liked on Wikipedia. It should not be used as a source as it is known to be giving "Non-professional" reviews. Anything from the site is considered bloggish (meaning a person's own made up creation being factually incorect). And if i remember, the first source of Britney Spears is from Amazon.com. Please check here. [1] Indianescence 17:03, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'll find a new source, or maybe one of the existing source actually has that info. Oops!...I did it again (talk) 02:32, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

The Legend of Sword and Fairy

You are most likely right. I agree that the Capital City in the story should be Nanjing, or at least a city around Chang Jiang, but then again, I wasn't the one who added in the second half of the plot section, I haven't edited that article since mid-May.

It's good to know others that are interested in the original game, after all, it was definitely a classic. LG-犬夜叉~ 08:47, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Britney spears and fred durst

Oidia, the fact that Britney dated Fred Durst deserves SOME mention in her article. Emphasis on SOME. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blitzkrieg BOOM (talk • contribs) 05:03, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

response

You should be commended for trying to improve the Britney Spears article. The biggest problem I saw when I commented on the FAC is that it's very hard to write a biography that will stand the test of time on a current figure, especially one that's covered so much in the tabloids and news. This is by far the biggest problem not the 2 comments that you mentioned.

One problem is once the article is FA, if it has lots of tabloid details, you are going to have a near impossible time to re-write it without opposition and fighting. People may say "the paragraph has been there a long time and everyone has agreed to it". It's not an easy problem to solve.

If you need to address every issue that I mentioned, you may add the comment to the FAC that you have discussed the matter with the user and the main concern is not the minor comments that remain unaddressed but the issue of whether the article will stand the test of time since once the article is an FA, it will be difficult to convert the article to a biographical article like those written for famous and retired singers (who don't have day to day details in their article).

Good luck! Mrs.EasterBunny 15:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Please note

When L.A.M.B was up for Good article nomination, in it's review, the person said that things in the lead should not be sourced. He asked me to shift the sources to somewhere else in the article. Luckily the article passed. But before someone objects on this point on Britney article's next FAC, you look into the matter.

It's ok if the article could not achieve FA status. You can't hit gold at the first go as i said. Even Love.Angel.Music.Baby could not be FA at once, but the second time worked! But yes, Britney is a topic which is socially very active, which affects the stabilty of the article. So i feel that this article can be undisputed FA only when Spears comes back to normal non - happening life! -- Indianescence (talk) 18:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Three Kingdoms

Unfortunately, I don't think you can, since the following paragraph states:

Though the years of civil war had certainly taken a toll in the heart-land of China, and brought a dramatic decline along the northern frontier, we have also observed the remarkable development of colonisation in the area south of the Yangzi formerly controlled by Wu. The population of China may have declined since the time of Later Han, but the loss was certainly not so great as the figures would indicate. Bielenstein has shown that the numbers of households given by Jin shu for each commandery represent a taxation list, not a true census. They may indeed be best understood as a series of quotas, indicating the assessed value and obligation of each unit, with no more than incidental relationship to the true population in each area. As to the numbers of individuals, we have seen how the records of the surrendered states of Shu-Han and Wu present far lower figures than those of the same area recorded by Later Han, and the total given by Jin shu follows the same pattern. It must be assumed that these reported the people under direct control of the administration for corvee or conscription, while the remainder of the population contrived to avoid such levies, either by keeping at a physical distance from government agencies or, very frequently, by sheltering under the protection of great families. In practice, the governments of the rival states, and the empire of Jin which succeeded them, had only limited access to the resources which they nominally controlled. The problem, moreover, was not just a question of administrative energy and competence, for the growth of economic and political power among the landed families, already established during Later Han, had accelerated in the years of turmoil, and there was now no meaningful machinery by which a government might restore the authority of the old empire.

In other words he appears to be saying there is no way of knowing how much the population really declined. Gatoclass (talk) 11:30, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

re: The animated map of China

Hello thanks for dropping by. I will revise the map to show the dynasty had control in those areas. Pojanji 08:30, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Welcome back!

For the time being then, why don't you try your hand at Baby One More Time album. Albums are very stable. The album has LOTS of info on the net. It will be easy for u to get it to FA status. You could use Love.Angel.Music.Baby as a model. All the best! go ahead. Indianescence (talk) 17:43, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Unedited version of Oops! I did it again

Just for laughs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MeHZvsFXZA&feature=related

Spears Difficulties/"struggles" title

I have noted that the word "struggles" is no appropriate in the Britney Spears article for a number of reasons. I will re-state those reasons for you:

1) The term "struggles" in this particular title is very melodramatic, and un-encyclopedic in this context.

2) "struggles" implies that Spears views these difficulties as a struggle, or a battle. She may view this that way, but we do not know this, so it's essentially opinion.

You're rationale for reverting it seems to lack reason, and appears based solely on your preference for the title and nothing more. You stated:

1) It's a very good title.

2) It's been in place for a while.

Neither of these comments rise to the level of valid reasoning. That you like the title is fine, but it's not your personal website it's wikipedia. Secondly, it may have been "in place for a while", but so what? Doe that confer some sort of legitimacy on it?

I am requesting that you refrain from further reverts, failing that, I hope that you contact me, so that, hopefully, we can reach some compromise.

Please contact me if you wish to discuss this matter

Thank you, Yakofujimato (talk • contribs) 03:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree that perhaps the most appropriate forum for this matter would be the Britney Spears discussion page. Thank you for your prompt response. I look forward to discussing this matter on the page. (Yakofujimato (talk) 18:51, 10 January 2008 (UTC))

Japanese Spitz

Hello.

Thank you for the info regarding the changes I had made. I do however feel that the introduction needs more information about other factors contained in the article like coat, temperament, health etc. Is it not meant to be a summary of the article?

I have also since gone in and tried to rework my original contribution into the article. I have also moved the Grooming information into the 'Lifestyle" section as I do not feel this is health but like exercise and training it is an ongoing factor in the "lifestyle" of your Japanese Spitz.

I have been researching the breed for 10 years and have many books and article on the breed... so please consider my contribution further in the future before you undo my contributions completely. Thank-you! User:Kimyata (talk) 06:27, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Britney Spears deletions

Hi. I'm curious why you keep deleting cited, relevant material from Britney Spears. Could you explain? Thanks. —Viriditas | Talk 04:00, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply, but I don't think WP:NOT#INFO applies, and there is consensus to keep the material in the article. Please use the talk page to make your argument. Thanks. —Viriditas | Talk 06:01, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Britney NO SOURCE

First off your letting your britney obssesion give her title of songwriter, which theres no source saying she is. I understand you want brit to seem artistic but she isnt. If you go to celine dions page(a much bigger more popular artist) youd see that the word occasional is added before songwriter to show that they just write a little and not by themselves so please dont change it to just songwriter alone, since she isnt one. The Blizzard King (talk • contribs) 03:28, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Eh. No problem.

I wasn't sure myself; Spears' just felt more phonetically right. And if I was wrong it takes a single click to change it back. It's not like I was dead set on it that way or even really interested: I was just editing it in passing. HalfShadow (talk) 03:57, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Britney Spears FAC

I'm a huge Britney fan so I really hope it gets featured. I've convinced myself that stability isn't an issue. After all... Barack Obama is an FA and its an "unstable" article and is in the news a lot. Nice to see another editor is as enthusiastic about getting this promoted as I am! Save-Me-Oprah^(talk) 20:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		For your exemplary work on Britney Spears as well as many other articles around Wikipedia. Save-Me-Oprah(talk) 10:45, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Re; Britney Spears

Hey, thanks :) I'm still trying to work out the wording on it.. it seems kinda awkward right now. Also, there are many more I have yet to add. Feel free to add your own. Save-Me-Oprah^(talk) 21:30, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Japanese Spitz

The above article has been nominated by another user for a community reassessment to see if it still meets the GA criteria. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Japanese Spitz/1 and you are invited to comment there. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:01, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey

Hi, u ever heard of Britney Spears? She's awesome :) --██████ Time Posted: 22:32, July 18, 2012 22:32, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

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