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Your user page shows you are really a well-traveled editor. Nice. I have to get more of those 'flags' into my life. My fave outside U.S. trip was to Paris this year. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:47, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

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Edits to Artificial Intelligence

I wrote a current AI book and referenced it in appropriate places. You removed the references because of COI. The main reference in AI are to Russell and Norvig's now dated book. I would imagine they or their students put most of the references in. Why is it now COI to put one's current text as the reference? profrich

2601:547:501:7C0:8B8:5C1A:B98A:B739 (talk) 15:20, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions. I've always been interested in artificial intelligence—I began programming Univacs in 1965 and had a brief connection to artificial intelligence at Georgia Tech in 1969 and worked at IBM. Since a long dry spell ensued for lack of processing power, I have few regrets——except that I'm no longer 25 and can't join the field now. So I envy you.
My decision to revert the edits made by this account was not based solely on the merits of the references. At the time the edits were made, this account had not existed long enough to attain autoconfirmed user status and the AI article is somewhat protected because of persistent vandalism. Unregistered accounts (IP addresses only) or new accounts with less that about three days existence and a dozen edits are pended until reviewed by a WP:pending changes reviewer and approved or reverted. My explantion is below.
Wikipedia appreciates work to improve the encyclopedia. There are, however certain policies that exist (many, in fact) that serve to protect a neutral point of view. One of these policies is avoidance of conflicts of interest. I considered all the contributions from this account, including the draft article Draft:Richard Neapolitan and the previously reverted edits to Artificial Intelligence. In addition, the user name, Profrich, of the account implies a close connection to Richard Neapolitan. Additional considerations:
Contemporary Artificial Intelligence, Second Edition: With an Introduction to Machine Learning
Richard E. Neapolitan, Xia Jiang
Hardback
$129.95
March 13, 2018 Forthcoming by Chapman and Hall/CRC
(the requirement here is verifiability)
  • all the refs added are from the work of one author, Richard Neapolitan
These refs may very well be useful additions to the article, but probably should be discussed on the talk page of the article. If this account Profrich is being used by more than one person, that is a violation of Wikipedia's shared account policy.
All this can easily be cleared up by improving the references to point to either the original publications (the refs must have been actually published), with page numbers, or to online excerpts. Any edits from this account are likely to be considered somewhat problematic until its usage is explained. Evidence of multiple usage is that the formatting of the references requires a level of understanding that contrasts markedly with the signature of the message above that does not conform to one of the first formatting conventions a new user picks up (four tildes cause the complete signature of the account plus a time and date stamp to be inserted}}.
If you have additional questions, please ask in a reply to this message. I will try to help, or will refer you to another volunteer editor who is more able. We value your help in building an encyclopedia and I will try to ease the way. I have no authority here. I hope the explanation above is of help. — Phil — Neonorange (talk) 18:54, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Reverts: takes all kinds

Sometimes, a revert causes tension between Wikipedia contributors, exchanges of angry words, or even edit wars. But, other times, especially when the revert summary is done with civility and constructiveness, the revert can act as a prodding to do better work. This is what your revert in the article "Negro" did. Thank you. -The Gnome (talk) 09:36, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

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Reversion Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negro

Hi, you revised my contribution. Please note that there seems to be a discrepancy between the dutch Wikipedia page and the english one. With kind regards, Houtebeen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Houtebeen (talk • contribs) 19:06, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the message, Houtebeen. Your contributions here are welcome. I will explain my reasons for the revert. The information you inserted was materially different from the previous information that was supported by a cite. The cite was a publication in the Dutch language so I was unable to check the new information you added for conformation with the previous version. Wikipedia articles are not considered [[WP:RS|reliable sources in the English Wikipedia. Therefore any discrepancy between article clear must be resolved by the sources, not by Wikiprdia articles. In addition, you gave no edit summary—if your summary had indicated that you used the same source, and that the previous version had not properly used the source, then I might not have reverted. Or I would have messaged you first to get an understanding of the source contents.
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Hello stranger, too long between "hello"s. I hope all is well. Wanted to let you know, if you don't already, that there is a new WP:WikiProject Civil Rights Movement. Editor Coffee started it just recently, and it's already accomplished quite a bit. "Join us, join us" as the film dialogue asks. Wish we could sit around, maybe at the next North American Wikipedia Conference? Randy Kryn (talk) 14:04, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Lead of Intelligence

Hello, I ask you because you're an American user and therefore your main language is English: reading from the start-"Intelligence has been..."- could you please check if this edit constitutes an improvement or not, namely, whether the pace, elegance, and clearness of the new text are better with respect to the old one, or not? I made that edit with the help of another American user but I would like to have more points of view on that.
Also, continuing to read past your preferred version of the lead section, do you think that the comma after the word intellēctus in the section "History of the term" is needed, or not?
Feel free to suggest changes of any kind...
Thank you! Drow (talk) 16:25, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Drow, for your elegant letter. I consider the edit you made to be an improvement. As for comma usage, I am a poor source of advice. I last took instruction in English grammar in 1959. My mother was a teacher of English and I grew up with an "ear" for correct usage. Nearly all my subsequent use of written English has been for oral delivery (documentaries and television news). Consequently, I use commas for pacing rather than for written clarity—I "play it by ear". (though evidently this does not help with correct spelling of English words)
I have made a few edits to Intelligence in the past. I think the article needs rewriting by sections (or even larger chunks)
  • The first section, History of the term, should not come directly after the lede. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a dictionary. Readers come here expecting to have their questions answered. The Latin and Ancient Greek antecedents of the English word are not going to be questions uppermost in the minds of English speaking readers (or any other readers).
  • The second section consist of two definitions supported by overly long quotes and a long table. A good, strong prose treatment as an introduction to the concept is needed.
  • At least a mention should be made of the association of intelligence quantification with racism and colonial exploitation.
Should you wish to work further on this article, I would be pleased to collaborate, though I have no expertise in the subject. Your kind letter does make me think that working with you would be a pleasure. — Neonorange (Phil) 05:55, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello Neonorange,
I'm *really* sorry for this late late response, but making one for your long comment above requires time and, as you know, I'm not a native nor a everyday speaker of English (although I happen to use it in my work environment) :) I recognize to have been rude, and I'm sorry for that...
Thank you for your kind words, I really appreciate them :) and thank you for your propositions :)
However... I wish otherwise, but I have to say that I do not really agree with your first proposition concerning the "History of the term" section. In fact, I believe that the etymology of the term intelligence is, in fact, part of the history of the term, and therefore should stay in the section. Morevover, I believe that in general *more* information makes for a better encyclopedia than less, and that should be another reason for having some words on the etymology of "intelligence" in the page related to Intelligence, don't you agree? :)
Regarding your second proposition, I don't really have the capacity for doing that, while I think that the history of intelligence in correlation with racism and colonial history should be mentioned in Human intelligence, instead.
If we wish to continue this discussion, however, I think that we should move to Talk:Intelligence. Drow (talk) 08:30, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

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Malcolm X mugshot

I believe mugshots are public domain. Also, it says on the website: "note - these pictures are assumed to be in the public domain, if this is not the case, please let us know by contacting us so that we can give credit or remove them from the web site as desired.". --Mozart834428196 (talk) 18:59, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

That’s not the way the Wikipedia copyright policy works. Do not expect that any file you find on the internet is public domain. The mugshots are not public domain: the rationale you entered applies only to works produced by the U.S. government, not to any other government work—that is even part of the rationale you entered. In addition, the metadata embedded in the image shows the copyright holder.
You need to be much more careful about copyright compliance here. And perhaps get more of a feel about the requirements for building the encyclopedia. The are lots of policies and rules. It’s best if you check out how experienced editors work here, and start with simple tasks. It is possible to learn a lot quickly—but learn some of the ropes before jumping in with both feet as you’ve done at Malcolm X—this is a featured article—a lot of people watch this article and try to make sure all edits are improvements. That can put a lot of pressure on new editors (I consider that after five thousand edits you’re no longer a new editor)! — Neonorange (talk) 19:44, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

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Ernest Hemingway 5000 vs 10000 words

Just concerning the edit I made that you reversed on the Ernest Hemingway article with the note of "best not to use primary sources of dubious neutrality" in terms of the 5000 words requested by Life magazine and versus the 10000 words. My source was literally linked to the page in Life magazine, how is that a bad source when they're the ones who he was writing for, I think they know what they requested, no? You mean they're lying to inflate/deflate Hemingway's reputation somehow by publicly stating the wrong number of words? Do you have a quote from the book source you preferred? — Preceding unsigned comment added by X2ca (talk • contribs) 07:46, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

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Size of lead section in Melville appears to be in violation of Wikipedia policy

The current length of the Herman Melville opening paragraphs appears to be in violation of WP:LEDE and WP:LEADLENGTH. Your edit appears to have reverted the article to be in violation of Wikipedia policy of 3-4 paragraphs here rather than the eight paragraphs which you have edited into the article. Can you repair this issue of Wikipedia policy. CodexJustin (talk) 15:33, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

The recommended length is 3-4 paragraph. The lead before the edit I reverted is indeed more than 4 paragraph, but several of the paragraphs are very short. The lead has also suffered from edits that added unnecessary details. The solution is to rewrite the lead with selected details removed and longer paragraphs. A complete rewrite, based on the article as whole, is the way to fix the problem.

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Peripheral neuropathy

Hello,

You recently reverted the edits which I made to Peripheral neuropathy. Your justification was "The lede prior to removal of material was neither to long nor redundant. The lede, by design, is meant to be a summary of the article body text". I disagree with this assessment.

  • first, the lead is too long. Generally, the recommended lead length for an article of this size is 2-3 paragraphs[1]
  • the lead is meant to be a concise summary of primary points, and written as simply as possible.[2]. The current version is not concise, uses medical jargon, and introduces non-essential ("trivia") information
  • the lead inappropriately offers medical advice, in violation of MOS[3]
  • the lead introduces non-standard abbreviation (which also is subsequently never used in the article)

The lines that I removed were either needlessly verbose, non-factual, or needlessly specific for the lead. That which was better suited for the article body was repositioned. If you find elements of these changes problematic, I would appreciate a discussion on the matter instead of reverting all of these changes. Dr G (talk) 20:11, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

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  1. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_better_articles#Introductory_material
  2. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Medicine-related_articles#Lead
  3. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Medicine-related_articles#Lead

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On your decision to delete my edit on the Ernest Hemingway page

(reply moved to location of original message) — Neonorange (Phil) 00:11, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

What is WP:MRDS?

new section for new topic What is WP:MRDS? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:1405:5ED:FD54:B826:F1A6:4444 (talk) 23:32, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

I apologize for creating a typographical error in my comment. The correct leters are MEDRS; the shortcut is, properly, WP:MEDRS, standing in for Wikipedia:MedicalReliableSources. Click on [[this link to reach the reliable source requirements for English Wikipedia for medicine related articles.
The article, pimozide is currently under Pending changes protection. This is the lowest level of protection, usually to help prevent persistent vandalism. Any article so protected can be edited by anyone, but unless the editor is using a registered account that has made at least 12 edits and has existed for at least 3 days, the changes made will not appear until reviewed. IP addresses are not registered; if the article has any type of protection, the edit will be pended until review. A few thousand Wikipedia volunteers have the task of reviewing pended edits; committing the changes for publication almost immediately after acceptance.
I am a pending changes reviewer. I thought it best to unaccept your claim for treatment of gender dysphoria with pimozide because the source does not seem to meet the requirements of WP:MEDRS.
When you restored the edit I declined, that change is also pended, and may never appear. You should take two steps to edit this article: register an acount, then make at least 12 edits over three days, and find better sources for your information. Alternatively, you may make a request for your edit to be made on the article talk page. — Neonorange (Phil) 01:16, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Michelle Howard

I'd like to know why my Cat addition to Michelle Howard's article was reversed. She's a director at IBM now, as mentioned in the article: "International Business Machines Corporation (IBM) announced that it appointed Howard to its board, effective March 1, 2019.[12]" n2xjk (talk) 19:07, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

N2xjk; I have no idea why I reverted your category addition. Somehow I got the impression you had removed the women board of director category... as you can see from my originaly edit summary, I even reread the article to make sure the category was supported by the article. I have reverted my revert. Neonorange (Phil) 19:28, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Misguided edit

personal attack in edit summary - who did I attack?

improper revision of punctuation—disregarded existence of parenthesis' unexplained deletion of citation - say again in English please. 51.7.23.40 (talk) 22:02, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello!
Thank you for posting a note to my talk page. Here we will have more space to discuss without being limited to the small space allowed for edit summaries.
improper revision of punctuation—disregarded existence of parenthesis;
The parenthetical phrase in the sentence Jima has a history of minor volcanic activity a few times per year (fumaroles and their resultant discolored patches of seawater nearby) but no evidence of an impending major eruption has been observed. using an opening and a closing parenthesis expands on fumaroles, and needs no off-setting commas; there is no list.
personal attack in edit summary the language you used in the edit summary could be considered agressive and insulting to the editor whom you reverted. Wikipedia is a collaborative project, yet editors here rarely meet face-to-face. Discussing edits and behavior should be civil—civility is a great help in ensuring a friction-free environment to build an encyclopedia.
You may not have noticed that this article is pending changes protected. This means that an editor who is unregistered or whose account has either fewer than ten edits or is less than three days old has their edit pended until it is reviewed editors with the pending changes reviewer right. I used that right to unaccept your edit. When you reverted my decision, the next pending changes editor also unaccepted your edit—and unaccepted your next revision. And then you reverted for the fourth time, this time by a third pending changes reviewer. No vandalism was involved, so you do not get a pass for violating the 3RR rule. Your best chance at a successful appeal of your 48-hour block is to read about pending changes protection, edit warring, and three edit reversion. Then explain those rules to the blocking admin an how you will avoid repeating the same error. Good luck. — Neonorange (Phil) 23:36, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

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Hi there. Please be much more careful reviewing BLP content, your acceptance of this edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_Carell&diff=900356790&oldid=900207752 that changes the subjects children to 25 was very poor indeed. Please be more careful or stop reviewing, thanks Govindaharihari (talk) 06:27, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

  • Thanks for remarking on my error. I am sure this has not been my worst edit. Evidently I saw the erroneous pending edit, but somehow assumed that it was a correction, rather than the offending edit. I always try to do my best. I will remember this exchange. Probably not in, assuming good faith, the way either you nor I might wish. The "or stop reviewing" is a phrase more appropriate for a deliberate, meanspirited action. — Neonorange (Phil) 18:04, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
    • Advanced permissions are removable if you fail to adhere to the standards, just take more care, thanks Govindaharihari (talk) 06:11, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
      • Leading your reply with a threat is not what I consider polite conduct. — Neonorange (Phil) 06:23, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
        • It is not a threat it is a reality. Please be aware, considering your objections if I see another equally poor review I will be forced to request your reviewer permissions be removed, sorry. Govindaharihari (talk) 06:26, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
          • Please go ahead an do what you feel you needed to do. Perhaps the reception you get will improve your understanding of what Wikipedia is and how it works. In fact, I insist you you report my work now, and cease your personal attacks. I have never had an unpleasant and completely useless conversation with a fellow editor on my talk page before. Please do not post on my talk page again. — Neonorange (Phil) 14:33, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Eh?

[2] Philip Trueman (talk) 04:11, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Eh? indeed. Makes no sense me either. I have removed the completely extraneous u at the sentence beginning and restored the clipped at. Thanks for catching my error so quickly and posting to my talk page. I also correctly restored my edit as intended:

The first one was the Alfa Romeo Superflow, a concept car built upon the chassis of a retired 6C 3000 CM racing car and first shown at the 1956 Turin Motor Show.

I can only plead my eyes misting over as I remember my long gone 1968 Alfa Romero Spyder (rebuilt from the body from one vehicle and the rebuilt engine from another.) — Neonorange (Phil) 04:37, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

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  • Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now. Go here to see how: 📲Try Edit Cards.
  • Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
  • Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor? We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
  • Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use.  The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.

Looking ahead

  • Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019. They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space. Talk to them about how editing can be improved.
  • Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.

Learning more

The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) and Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:25, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Meetup/Atlanta/Wiknic 2019 Sunday Aug 4

I wanted to invite you to join Wikipedia:Meetup/Atlanta/Wiknic 2019, which is being held this weekend on Sunday August 4!--Pharos (talk) 18:13, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Metro Atlanta Wiki-Picnic Sunday: Wikipedia:Meetup/Atlanta/Wiknic 2019

A friendly reminder that Wikipedia:Meetup/Atlanta/Wiknic 2019 is Sunday in Morgan Falls Park from 11am-2pm!--Pharos (talk) 17:35, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

Thanks for contributing to the Fram workshop Neonorange! :) starship.paint (talk) 02:55, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi there. I don't think we've had the pleasure of interacting before, but I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to evaluate my candidacy during my RfA. And then to further leave such a detailed comment is truly appreciated. I hope our wiki paths may cross again in the future. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:52, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

In addition to other factors, I was impressed that you were actively involved in the T&S/Fram/ARBCOM discussions while your RfA was underway. I am particularly interested in how Wikipedia operates, and compare its problems with those I saw in other organizations of which I've been a part: the news division of a major broadcast network; an underground newspaper '69—'71; a progressive political party, and technical divisions of several major corporation. Wikipedia fails, I think, to nourish leadership. COI I see here would never be allowed in most of what we consider reliable sources. I expect Wikipedia to be increasingly targeted by politically motivated manipulation. I fear your adminship is in for a rough voyage. — Neonorange (Phil) 06:24, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 35, July – August 2019

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Books & Bytes
Issue 35, July – August 2019

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  • We're building something great, but..
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  • A Wikibrarian's story
  • Bytes in brief

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Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages – October 2019

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Inside this newsletter, the Editing team talks about their work on the mobile visual editor, on the new talk pages project, and at Wikimania 2019.

Help

What talk page interactions do you remember? Is it a story about how someone helped you to learn something new? Is it a story about how someone helped you get involved in a group? Something else? Whatever your story is, we want to hear it!

Please tell us a story about how you used a talk page. Please share a link to a memorable discussion, or describe it on the talk page for this project. The team would value your examples. These examples will help everyone develop a shared understanding of what this project should support and encourage.

Talk Pages

The Talk Pages Consultation was a global consultation to define better tools for wiki communication. From February through June 2019, more than 500 volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and multiple projects, came together with members of the Foundation to create a product direction for a set of discussion tools. The Phase 2 Report of the Talk Page Consultation was published in August. It summarizes the product direction the team has started to work on, which you can read more about here: Talk Page Project project page.

The team needs and wants your help at this early stage. They are starting to develop the first idea. Please add your name to the "Getting involved" section of the project page, if you would like to hear about opportunities to participate.

Mobile visual editor

The Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the visual editor on mobile. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

Edit Cards

What happens when you click on a link. The new Edit Card is bigger and has more options for editing links.

Toolbar

The editing toolbar is changing in the mobile visual editor. The old system had two different toolbars. Now, all the buttons are together. Tell the team what you think about the new toolbar.
  • In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
    • One toolbar: All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.
    • New navigation: The buttons for moving forward and backward in the edit flow have changed.
    • Seamless switching: an improved workflow for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.
  • Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Toolbar feedback talk page.

Wikimania

The Editing Team attended Wikimania 2019 in Sweden. They led a session on the mobile visual editor and a session on the new talk pages project. They tested two new features in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in the team's report on Wikimania 2019.

Looking ahead

  • Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes. The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
  • Testing the mobile visual editor as the default: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: VisualEditor as mobile default project page.
  • Measuring the impact of Edit Cards: The Editing team hopes to share results in November. This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: Edit Cards project page.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:51, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

A survey to improve the community consultation outreach process

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The privacy policy for this survey is here. This survey is a one-off request from us related to this unique topic.

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Books & Bytes – Issue 36

The Wikipedia Library

Books & Bytes
Issue 36, September – October 2019

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