User talk:Mungo Kitsch/Archive 2

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Speedy deletion of Axamenta

A tag has been placed on Axamenta requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the article or have a copy emailed to you. Terrillja _talk 06:04, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

January 2009

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed that you recently added a {{hangon}} template to an article. In order for an administrator to evaluate whether the article should be speedy deleted or not, we request that you provide reasoning, on the article's talk page, for why it should remain. Thank you. Terrillja _talk 06:10, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Sourcing

Hi Backtable, I see that you are interested in music articles, but you may not be very familiar with our sourcing guidelines. One of the core policies on Wikipedia is verifiability, and I noticed that you have provided some sources. However, sources need to be reliable and independent. Myspace is not considered a good source. For the most part, neither are blogs or websites. Sources should be independent of the topic (so anything the band puts out is not a great source to establish notability, and neither is anything their label says about them). Hopefully, you can find newspaper, magazine, or book sources to augment the Myspace. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on my talk page. Karanacs (talk) 18:06, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Axamenta

I have nominated Axamenta, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Axamenta. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Terrillja _talk 18:28, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mariusz Duda

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Mariusz Duda, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

WP:BIO, tagged since 9/07 w/o improvement. Nothing here encyclopedic independent of existing Riverside article.

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. THF (talk) 13:53, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

li value

I see you added <li value = 6> before one of the track names on Dehumanizer, I can't figure out what it is, what it does, or why you did it put the curiosity is killing me. -J04n (talk) 00:56, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Sanctus Ignis tracklist

I have added the missing track length to the best of my ability and divided the versions, but I'm at a bit of a loss at this point for how many versions there actually are. Niflheim is listed as a demo/bonus track, but I haven't actually seen a version without it. On Musicbrainz, there are 3 versions listed, one with no demo/bonus, one with only the Niflheim demo, and one with the Stringless Violin demo as well, while the Japanese version is ostensibly missing. Arrgh! Anyway, do you see any other changes which need to be made? 128.61.56.41 (talk) 16:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: List of rock epics

No problem, good to hear that you agree with my decision. Regards, –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 04:46, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Metal

Hi Backtable, I created a thread regarding a picture of Heavy metal genealogy, I created and uploaded. I'll be so grateful if you could leave a comment on the matter. Cheers!--Chanaka L (talk) 05:06, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

I'd just like to personally thank you for fixing up the Statik Majik page. I've created several pages before, but as you can imagine this one was kinda hard to do. Hey, I took a look at your user page and saw that Cathedral (band) were one of your bands so maybe you'd know a few more websites that could help expand the page??!! Also, a picture of the album cover would be good too. I'd do it myself but my knowledge with pictures on Wikipedia is not the best. Thanks again. --Sky Attacker (talk) 02:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

My edits

I just thought I'd ask politely, some of your edit summaries following edits I've made (Trail of Tears albums) seem a little sarcastic. I do apologize if edit summaries I've made seem obvious, we know YOU know Wiki isn't for random reviews but I made the effort to make it clear to the user who put the thing there; they might just be new, as it's unlikely a troll would bother finding an entire review to plop into an album article. So it's not very constructive to take the piss. If on the other hand I've misunderstood the situation and there IS a problem with any edits I've made (such as might merit a 'Geez'), I am sorry and I'll do my best to improve the quality of what I'm doing as I'm still getting the hang of Wiki, and would like to stay friendly with people who could give me any advice. Thanks, Joncheetham88 (talk) 19:17, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your response :) No problem mate, look forward to putting together some more metal-related articles in the future! Joncheetham88 (talk) 09:06, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Single infoboxes that have the song length instead of the total single length

Nemo_(song)

Another_Day_in_Paradise

Hello,_I_Love_You

The_Phantom_Agony_(song)

Sledgehammer_(song)

One_of_These_Days

City_of_Blinding_Lights

These are all singles by artists you know. Also, see this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Single

The three examples all use song length. One of them even separates single version / album version length. Now please stop reverting my edit on the Being Everyone single page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Onno 91 (talk • contribs) 20:04, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

'Weasel Words' Rule in Black Clouds & Silver Linings: Reception

Just thought I'd comment on the back-and-forth you've been having with "71.109.231.67" in regards to the line "Currently, the album has received positive reviews." In your most recent deletion of that line, you cited the weasel words rule as your motive. I was just curious as to your reasoning in saying that. As I understand it, that rule prohibits "words or phrases that seemingly support statements without attributing opinions to verifiable sources" (from the weasel words guideline article). He backed up the statement "Currently, the album has received positive reviews" with positive reviews from Allmusic and from Rich Wilson's article for Metal Hammer. Considering the reviews the album has received so far, do you disagree that the current state of Reception is 'positive?' Do you think he's generalizing too much from these early reviews? I'd like to know what you think about this. You seem knowledgeable, and I'm new to Wikipedia and still trying to figure some of this stuff out. Thanks! --Granedit (talk) 00:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

In reference to the iPhone as a musical instrument on Black Clouds & Silver Linings

Jordan Rudess uses a special app that allows him to use an iPhone as a musical instrument; for reference, consult this link : Rudess Meets Bebot --Granedit (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC).

Re: Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits

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Re: BCSL

Hey, thanks dude. You've been doing great with it as well. I've been kind of busy lately, but when I get a chance hopefully we can start expanding the article to eventually get it up to a WP:GA. black ngold29 04:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Obzen's album reception

hello there,

Regarding the obzen edit that I did yesterday, I just want to point out that I was only interested in adding some opinions from the trustworthy Metal critics like Terrorizer, Decibel & ZT magazines, since those three magazines are considered the big 3 in the Metal community.

As far as weasels go, the article already stated that the album received generally positive reviews and I was only extending on that fact. I would love to provide some sources for my claims but those lines and reviews that I provided came from "printed" magazines and not online resources. However, I have a link to the Decibel review but that link doesn't show the line that I put in the article, do you think that adding the link as a reference would make a difference ?

And about the fact that the album has been included in a lot of year's end lists I will be more than happy to provide links.

I've been involved in the Metal scene for more than 10 years, I've written for a number of Metal sites, fanzines and blogs and I've also edited a few pages here but I just recently got an account, its good to see a Metal fan like yourself here since Wikipedia has been plagued with a lot of incorrect information as far as Metal goes.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Metal munther (talk • contribs) 21:32, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

MDB's For Lies I Sire 03:51, 17 June 2009 edit.

Hey. Would you mind telling me what's your justification for throwing out my data concerning For Lies I Sire? Not that I mind, but I see no explanation. This is the edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=My_Dying_Bride&diff=296890978&oldid=295375078 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wojciech.aniszewski (talk • contribs) 10:39, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Table fixes

Thanks for fixing up the Marins filmography. You can see tables are not my strong point but I wanted to get the article written. Good job. Mjpresson (talk) 21:18, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

RE:This is a question concertning reflist text.

Greets. The number ("2" in this case) determines the number of columns in which the references are arranged. If the text of an avarage reference in that article is short (which it is in 95% cases), you can prevent the blank space that is on the right behind the references and save space in the article by arraging the references into columns. Three or four columns are used usually for articles referenced mostly by books (due to very short references) - for instance Bedřich Smetana. Cheers.-- LYKANTROP ✉ 22:21, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome :) -- LYKANTROP ✉ 10:00, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Sleaszy Rider Records

Requested moves should be filed at the individual talk page itself. Create a new section at Talk:Sleaszy Rider Records and put this at the top of it: {{subst:move|what you want the new title to be}}. —harej (talk) (cool!) 11:08, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Iwrestledabearonce

Hi Backtable. I's super new at this and not really sure if I'm doing this right... but I can for sure tell you the band members have changed. I know this because my brother is the drummer, Mikey Montgomery. If you have anymore questions for me feel free to ask!

Einalem82 (talk) 03:58, 7 August 2009 (UTC) Einalem82

Barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For your work on WikiProject Christian Metal and on many different metal bands in general and improving these articles. --Azure Shrieker (talk) 09:40, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I noticed that, months after the Christian metal wikiproject turned silent, you still do general maintenance, watch for vandalism and fix errors in band articles such as Antestor. Thank you for your work. Live long and prosper. --Azure Shrieker (talk) 09:40, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Epica

Do you think you and me could work together with the Epic page? I would like to have a part about there lryics. Though I'm not sure how best to word it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Epica124 (talk • contribs) 20:24, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Well I know that for the most part I know there lryics have to do with things such as Mayan Philosophy, fundamentalism within religion one only need to read the lryics for the song Facade Of Reality or Fools of Damnation. I'm just not really sure the best way to word it though. I don't want it sound like it's all opinion. --Epica124 (talk) 22:53, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I know that there are some interviews with Mark talking about the lryics if I find in of them I will sned them to you. --Epica124 (talk) 21:14, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

in regards to the vandalism comment about BC&SL by Dream Theater

i wasnt vandalizing the page, people have been deleting the ratings from the albums of the Dream Theater pages, and the remaining reviews were all low. Its not fair to leave out fair information, so i deleted the mojo rating. It wasnt even a review, it was a compilation of other peoples reviews. Those should be placed in a different area, probably toward the bottom. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.115.156.240 (talk) 04:23, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Joe Duplantier article/link

I had the intention that you were going to create it but it is best to link the article after you have. So please do so from now on. I have nothing against you creating it, so go ahead and create the article and remember to be bold. Good luck on keeping his article and finding the necessary sources. FireCrystal (talk) 05:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

RE: RE: in regards to the vandalism comment about BC&SL by Dream Theater

thanks for understanding, i appreciate it very much —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonicspeed500 (talk • contribs) 05:39, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Music

Was just looking over some of the bands you listen to. Nice to see another soul who has heard of Nektar, let alone listened to their music. Noticed one band missing from your list that you may like. Between the Buried and Me. Sort of death-metal Opeth meets you're-too-good-on-the-guitar-you-bastard Symphony X. Check out Ants of the Sky and Selkies the Endless Obsession if you fancy.

PS: I've got a bottle of BBQ sauce from a ribfest in my city that's from Naples Florida. It's a place called Bibb's Barbeque I believe. Do they have Bibbs BBQ restaurants there? If so I might have to pack up my life and move to Florida. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 01:27, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Epica

That was odd when I linked the page I thought it was to Epica. I fixed the link. --Epica124 (talk) 21:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Sing-Along Songs for the Damned & Delirious

Hi Backtable. Are you sure about that? My copy of the album (standard edition) says "A Tap Dancer's Dilemma" (compare the respective page of the booklet) and so does the music player on their myspace page. -- Lacrimus (talk) 20:35, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I've changed it now. -- Lacrimus (talk) 00:36, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Funeral albums

Genre Project

Ok so for about 3 years now I have been tagging nearly every genre article. Recently I have stepped things up a bit and been doing things like this [1], and this [2]. I've been going through and adding citation needed tags,I'm trying not to be to pointy though you could add the tag to every sentence in some articles.

I've also tried being really bold and just removing whole sections of OR, [3] these are normally just reverted and since I'm working alone there's not much I can do about it. Ridernyc (talk) 01:22, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Dov Shurin

Howdy, I noticed that you tagged Dov Shurin as too short an intro. I took it from sub-stub to a reasonable stub and am still hoping that someone will come along and fix the rest (discography, style and such). You are correct and I hope that the tag gets someone to fix the article in general. Thanks Joe407 (talk) 18:41, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

looks good

Your bold edit of Lair of the Minotaur looks good. I'm not a metal person but is there anything that you can scrap from that section? cheers --Guerillero (talk) 04:25, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok. After looking at it again it does look like original research. *tips hat* --Guerillero (talk) 04:45, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Mellotron Heart

Just posed a question on the Watershed talk page. Not sure that Mellotron Heart qualifies as a single, or warrants an article. Thoughts? 136.181.195.10 (talk) 17:07, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah- it was probably best mentioned on the mellotron heart talk page. I definitely agree that it's worth mentioning on the Watershed page. And maybe even an article of its own depending on coverage. But from my understanding, it was never released on its own commercially or to radio, and no video was made, so the single designation doesn't seem quite right. It was included as a promo disc with Watershed, and it was a B-Side on the Burden single. It just doesn't seem to me that it should be listed under "singles." Thanks. 136.181.195.10 (talk) 18:48, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay- I just did a little thinking about this, after the overwhelming indifference in all applicable pages. Mellotron Heart is the same song as Porcelain Heart. Basically an Opeth cover. So it really should be merged into Porcelain Heart, much like how other cover versions are mentioned in the original song's article. Of course that doesn't really solve answer the category question, but it's something.136.181.195.10 (talk) 14:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

NEW Full Armor of God Broadcast article

Past writers of this article caused its deletion by adding non-referenced content. Please view this NEW article and help it to be improved. TY Armorbearer777 (talk) 13:37, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I appreciate your comment! Please review the site again and let me know what you think. People are constantly removing anything I post there so if the new references are romove, please view the sand box on my user page. It will most likely be deleted again this time around, but we will consistantly keep trying to get it approved. TY! Armorbearer777 (talk) 23:59, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Indukti's S.U.S.A.R and Metropolis

Why did you add "citation needed" to sentence "The album is partly inspired by the famed masterpiece Metropolis by Fritz Lang." in S.U.S.A.R. article? It's obvious. Two titles from album, Freder and 11811, are the names of characters from Metropolis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cozy64 (talk • contribs) 21:43, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Metal

Hello Mungo Kitsch/Archive 2, you have received this notice because you have placed your name on the list of members of WikiProject Metal. We are currently looking to make the wikiproject more active, and in doing so, we need to have a list of active members on the wikiproject. If you wish to stay an active part of wikiproject metal, please add your username to Wikipedia:WikiProject Metal/Active Users. Conversely, if you wish to leave the wikiproject, please remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiProject Metal/Members. Thank you.

German Bishops

Please have a look at that AfD again - I've had an idea... Peridon (talk) 19:06, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Avant Progressive

You should read the Gibraltar Encyclopedia Of Progressive Rock's Guide to the Progressive Rock Genres. There is a whole section on RIO/Avant Prog. Also, Prog Archives has a RIO/Avant Prog page. Have Fun! Firstlensman (talk) 22:41, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your response! Prog Archives is only one of the sites I use. I understand that several sites and outside references (such as Rocking The Classics by Edward Macan) could be used to triangulate a proper definition. I would like to update the "Symphonic Prog" page as well as bring back the "Avant Prog" page. I've been discussing it on the talk pages and trying to solicit support before I add or change anything with the Progressive Rock pages. Firstlensman (talk) 04:39, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Eyes of the Oracle

A tag has been placed on Eyes of the Oracle requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a musical recording which does not indicate why its subject is important or significant, and where the artist's article has never existed, has been deleted or is eligible for deletion itself. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for music.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. TheWeakWilled (T * G) 18:41, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Rooms of Anguish

A tag has been placed on Rooms of Anguish requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a musical recording which does not indicate why its subject is important or significant, and where the artist's article has never existed, has been deleted or is eligible for deletion itself. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for music.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. TheWeakWilled (T * G) 18:41, 14 February 2010 (UTC) I saw you nominated them for deletion, but this is an easier way to do it, and much faster. TheWeakWilled (T * G) 18:41, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:2008 EPs

IWABO

Thanks for keeping an eye on the page, I changed the hidden comment so that now if there's any childish IP editors that want to change the genres any further it will be considered vandalism and they will be receiving warnings on their talk page, I figured that this should nail the whole thing down. • GunMetal Angel 07:32, 26 February 2010 (UTC)