User talk:MuffledThud/Archives/December 2009

AfD nomination of Payatas Baptist Church

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Proposed deletion of Violator (band)

The article Violator (band) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Doesn't meet notability requirements.

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Ace candy listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Ace candy. Since you had some involvement with the Ace candy redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Josh Parris 22:49, 2 December 2009 (UTC) Josh Parris 22:49, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

K. Rai Sahi

Hello....thanks for leaving me a message regarding K. Rai Sahi. I've added content that I believe helps the entry to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines--would you please re-check it for me?

Regarding the style, I've significantly pared down the last paragraph, but I believe that the paragraph is still important in order to give a scope of the business holdings of the subject.

Thanks

Soundbooth (talk) 20:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, why did you have to ruin my page? Really, it was just in fun. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carleighbirch (talk • contribs) 08:20, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Inside Luxury Travel

Hi, I have given my best attempt at putting up a Wikipedia Page for a TV show I work on, "Inside Luxury Travel" I see it has been tagged for Speedy Deletion due to copyright infringement, The show starts Airing in the UK tomorrow, (Mon 7th Dec) I believe the content that has been flagged as copyright, is PR material supplied by Inside Luxury Travel which has then been posted on the websites that have been flagged up. i.e. the Synopsis of the series was written by "Inside Luxury Travel" and sent to The Travel Channel, I will check this is accurate, but to the best of my knowledge it is.

Kind Regards, James —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesfulcher (talk • contribs) 21:10, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's almost never a good idea to write about a subject with you're so closely associated. You should wait for someone who hasn't got a WP:Conflict of interest to write about it. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 09:20, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why?

Why delete Shaklonk? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fairycat (talk • contribs) 14:43, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I answered to User talk:Fairycat. Ilyushka88 Talk to me 14:51, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I understand you, these books have been very recently published and the author still relatively private, hence the lack of hits/ referances. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fairycat (talk • contribs) 15:00, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sergio Sartorelli

The curriculum if of Mr. Sartorelli his own. I have no conflict with the pubblication 'cause the curriculum is property of Karmann Ghia Club Italia (i'm the President). The aim of the publication is to let people know the whole work of Mr. Sartorelli in the car design. The curriclum is already approved by the italia version of Wikipedia. If you have any other question do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks. Bye Antonio Pellegrino —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antoniopellegrino (talk • contribs) 15:45, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and thanks for your message. I'm afraid you do have a very clear WP:Conflict of interest for that article, as you're the President of the club. I'd strongly recommend that you not edit that article any further, since it will be almost impossible for you to be objective about the subject. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 16:09, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The curriculum is a part of the story of Italian design and so I don't see any conflict in this. We are the only who can authorize the pubblication... If you disagree you do not understand that reason. So remove the article for me isn't really a matter...... Bye —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antoniopellegrino (talk • contribs) 08:35, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alliance for Democracy ( UK )

Hi

I am new to wiki and have been tasked with creating some pages by the English Democrat Party

Any help you could offer with formatting and getting things right would be greatly appreciated

Thank you

English Democrat (talk) 22:08, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and welcome. Please note that it's not a good idea for you to create or edit pages about the English Democrat Party and its associated groups, since you have a clear WP:Conflict of interest on the subject which will make it extremely difficult for you to be objective about it. But I'd be happy to help you with editing articles about any other subject. If you have any questions, please ask away. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 22:20, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dear MuffledThud

Thank you for previous guidance, I am still extremely new to wiki and your patience is most welcome. I recall you saying you would assist where you could with page creation, I have a page here that now has a live source, Alliance_for_Democracy UK, and I need to find the correct wiki help guide for making the page look like a correct wiki entry, and once that is done I beleive the page follows the rules and can be moved to a live wiki reference page. Could you assist with this? Thank you Quercus Robor (talk) 21:46, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I see you've had your user account renamed in accordance with Wikipedia username policy, which is fine. But please note that the WP:Conflict of interest remains, and I strongly recommend that you not edit the article Alliance for Democracy ( UK ) any longer. I also see that the article's now up for deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alliance for Democracy ( UK ). As noted in that discussion, the only trace of the organization online is its own website, so the group appears to be not yet notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia. Please do ask away if you'd like help with editing articles about any other subject. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 08:08, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ove

It seems there is some confusion over this man's name. He uses both O.V. Michaelsen AND Ove Michaelsen and searches under both these names result in the same person. I am a fan of his writing and feel that 'wordplay' (all the fun things you can do with language) is an important idea in these less than literate times. Please advise me on how to keep his page from being deleted.

thanks, ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by Celetus (talk • contribs) 01:14, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and thanks for the heads-up. Wordplay is indeed important, especially the intentional sort: there's far too much accidental wordplay around lately, from politicians and press people who should know better... :-) What's needed for the article Ove Michaelsen is to establish WP:Notability for the article's subject, with supporting references from WP:Reliable sources. The WP articles WP:AUTHOR and WP:MUSICBIO have more specific information on establishing notability for authors and musicians. Please let me know if you'd like any help with this. MuffledThud (talk) 08:57, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O.V. Michaelsen page

Thanks for responding Thud and for your work at Wikipedia.

In reference to Mr. Michaelsen I'd like to mention that it's a unique and small group of enthusiasts that enjoy the 'wordplay' he does and it doesn't have the sort of mass appeal of other kinds of writing. Still, I believe it would be a shame to have one less reference to this sort of intellectual fun on Wikipedia. There is a page for wordplay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_play but it is very broad in it's interpretation of the subject and O.V.'s (Ove to his friends) incredible palindromes, etc. aren't the  kind of mass market stuff that gets much attention. I think it would be a shame to lose this clever work when 'pop' culture is becoming the ONLY culture left.
If I remove the musician part (he's always been an itinerant musician and songwriter without notable success) would that help?

Thanks for your time, John Kevin Loesch ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by Celetus (talk • contribs) 20:03, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well the article is principally about his work as an author, so best to focus on that I think. MuffledThud (talk) 20:36, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mad Pigeon article

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Hi about Mad Pigeon. The Mad Pigeon films were selected at the prestigious Fespaco 2005, the biggest african cinema festival. The DVD is distributed in Europe, for instance at the FNAC (the equivalent of Virgin Megastore in France). See http://video.fnac.com/a1811539/Mad-pigeon-DVD-Zone-2?PID=3 Thank you for your attention. Pteroxx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pteroxx (talk • contribs)

O.V. Michaelsen Article: Suzy Fischer, Featuring the Dinosaurs

The Bios at "http://www.isound.com/suzy_fischer_featuring_the_dinosaurs___john_c/" 71.142.70.255 (talk) 03:44, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds promising, and I see an editor at another address has added it to the AFD discussion. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 08:45, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

weborf

It is actually 2 years old. 3 months is the date of the last release. --LtWorf (talk) 09:40, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll update the prod now. MuffledThud (talk) 09:42, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hyperic

The Hyperic article was speedyed because it was created by the Senior Director of Marketing at Hyperic, and was exceptionally spammy. Both these circumstances warrented Speedy deletion. Hyperic has now been sternly warned to distance themselves from that article and related articles. Providing they keep thier mits out of the article, there will be no reason for it to be speedy'ed again. «l| Promethean ™|l» (talk) 07:23, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough: I'll keep an eye on it too. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 08:26, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O.V. Michaelsen

Critical reviews by wordsmiths author Dr. Ross Eckler, magazine editor Ted Clarke, and members of the National Puzzlers' League:

http://www.amazon.com/Words-Play-Quips-Quirks-Oddities/product-reviews/0806997915

Also see Reference No. 1 of the Wikipedia article from The Palindromist magazine:

http://www.realchange.org/pal/authors.htm

71.142.81.11 (talk) 10:07, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks: that review quote from Word Ways looks good, so I'll post it to the AFD discussion, and let's see what the rest of the editors think. MuffledThud (talk) 10:13, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That former editor of Word Ways was Ross Eckler, author of Making the Alphabet Dance. Michaelsen contributed to that major book, and to the book The National Puzzlers' League: The First 115 Years. Another review on that Amazon.com site was by Ted Clarke, editor of Wordsworth magazine in England. For the sake of fairness, please mention the names of those reviewers. Why did you bring up the comments by an anonymous reviewer? You are not giving this a fair shake.

71.142.81.11 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:56, 16 December 2009 (UTC).[reply]

The quoted reviews were posted to the Amazon customer review page by an anonymous customer: "A Customer". Please go ahead and add more detail about the other reviewers at the AFD discussion, if you think they're significant. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 11:01, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Whoa...

Hey there, what's going on with all the A10 nominations of Walaa adel's user subpages? User-space articles, as long as they're not possibly disruptive or harmful, are usually left alone. Is there something I'm missing? Regards, JamieS93 18:09, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tagging of User:Walaa adel/Seasonal affective disorder

I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on User:Walaa adel/Seasonal affective disorder. I do not think that User:Walaa adel/Seasonal affective disorder fits any of the speedy deletion criteria because A10 is for articles, not pages in userspace. A user might copy an article to userspace to work on edits, or to draft a fork or a related article. There is very little reason to speedy delete pages in userspace that are not copvios or attack pages, other than by request of the author. I request that you consider not re-tagging User:Walaa adel/Seasonal affective disorder for speedy deletion without discussing the matter on the appropriate talk page. DES ^(talk) 18:21, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The same comment applies to User:Walaa adel/Jerry Seinfeld. DES ^(talk) 18:23, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would have to be a mass-decline, then. :) JamieS93 18:25, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I declined all the ones I found. However another admin seems to have mass-deleted them on other (unclear) grounds. As I was going to list them on WP:MFD shortly i won't complain. But do be careful with spedy deletes -- thes really should be very clear cut -- anything that doen't fit the speedy criteria should be declined, and will if I happen to be the reviewing admin. DES ^(talk) 21:29, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is a bit of a procedural gray area, since as you say A10 isn't meant to apply to userspace articles. But this editor was already asked to stop mass copy-&-pasting to their userspace, especially since in all cases they've left the categories uncommented in the copy, creating extra work for other editors (I ran across the problem when categorizing for WP:UNCAT).

The rationale offered to the admin who blocked them in October for refusing to stop was that they intended to translate them, but the editor never explained why copying a large collection of apparently unrelated articles (Jerry Seinfeld, Warfarin and Cranberry??) to their userspace was necessary for this purpose.

Note also that not a single attempt at translation has been done yet by this editor, as all their effort since at least August has been going into collecting copies. See Special:Contributions/Walaa adel for the remaining articles: I only nominated the 32 newest ones. The grounds given by the admin who speedied some of the ones I nominated was vandalism, which since they've already been asked to stop appears to be valid here.

Your decline was clearly done for best adherence to procedure, against which I obviously can't argue, but can you suggest an alternative method for discouraging mass copy & pasting articles and leaving them unchanged for months, regardless of intentions? Maybe prods would be sufficient here, but a more general solution would be useful. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 09:11, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When i looked further and saw what was going on, I realized that these pages were not serving a useful purpose and could be a problem. I intended, later that day, to do a Mass nomination at WP:MFD, but when I returned all the ones listed for speedy had been mass-deleted by another admin. This may well have been technically out-of-process, but under the circumstances I didn't (and don't) intend to object, although I generally do object to out-of-process deletions. Now that I learn there are (or may be, I haven't double checked yet) others still around, i will do such an MFD nom. I don't think this happens often enough that a special procedure is needed to deal with it -- in fact i can't recall a similar case. It seems to me that MFD is sufficient for the purpose -- Prod is, as I understand it, also not for userspace pages. DES ^(talk) 14:24, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, agreed that it's unlikely to happen often. Please ping me with a talkback when you post at WP:MFD: I'd be interested to read it and to know the outcome of the discussion. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 14:27, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am starting to create the noms even now. DES ^(talk)

See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Walaa adel page copies. DES ^(talk) 16:21, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ove Michaelsen

A lot of people are new to these pages, as I am, and I doubt they any of the supporters know one another, or are aware of how to navigate this confusing system. I've made mistakes (correcting a misspelling on the discussion page and adding in parentheses that No. 4 above (Anagrams] is a novel, were two of my blunders, unaware that it was not acceptable). It's a relief that there ARE administrators to oversee these exchanges. THANK you! The subject of the three books in the article is unfamiliar to most people, and searching under titles of other books that seem similar in subject (No. 4 above is a novel) does not do Michaelsen's books justice. A major difference between his books and others that seem similar is the extensive research and meticulous lists of previously unknown sources dating back four centuries.

If someone has used two identities here (out of not knowing the rules?), it is not helping to support this side of the debate. Here's hoping that if that has happened, it was an innocent mistake. 71.142.68.217 (talk) 21:05, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The user with the double I.D.--I don't know WHAT to say in response to that. At least his/her points were made.

What IS fortunate is that this isn't a majority vote. It seems to me that there has been a below-the-belt attitude here, and maybe supporters of the article feel taunted to lose their cool in frustration. Imagine having an honest article posted on Wikipedia to have your achievements minimized by someone with little knowledge on the subject. I hope the administrators will consider this and resolve it either way. This page has not been a friendly place, in my perspective. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.68.217 (talk) 22:33, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can find only one example of taunting, belittling and unfriendly language in the AFD:

"It would seem those proposing deletion are not familiar with the author's work and have made no serious effort to follow up on even the citations listed in the article. The criticism of O.V. Michaelsen's writings in this proposal seem to be frivolous and clearly uniformed."

Everyone who disagreed with you was entirely polite. MuffledThud (talk) 22:06, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to pull the rug from under someone is not courteous. The offense was not in your language, but trying to cherry-pick for flaws in legitimacy, many of which were shown to not exist.

Your attitude could have gone either way. I'd like to know if others are perceiving this.

71.142.82.21 (talk) 23:54, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone who contributed to WP:Articles for deletion/Ove Michaelsen, apart from one editor and his sockpuppet, thought that under the existing guidelines the subject was not eligible for inclusion. This doesn't mean the subject is non-notable outside of Wikipedia: I personally think his anagrams are pure genius, but that's entirely irrelevant - what matters is consensus around agreed guidelines and principles. If further evidence is found supporting the subject's notability per WP guidelines, then the article can always be re-created.

If you thought the evidence you posted here on my talk page was relevant, then why didn't you contribute it to the AFD discussion yourself? I thought that only one of the links you posted above was relevant (and said so immediately in my reply above), so I posted that to the AFD, and also noted there that you had additionally posted from other, unverifiable sources on my talk page. What should I have done differently? MuffledThud (talk) 08:53, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nasal Mucus Conservation

Can I suggest a few changes you might make to improve this article? 1) a decent title and 2) perhaps replace the word "booger" with something more scientific and less americo-centric. Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ironholds (talk • contribs)

It looks like mine, but it's not. I rescued it from deletion on the off chance that the original creator might improve it. He/she hasn't, so I'm flagging it for re-deletion. Thanks for the reminder, MuffledThud (talk) 21:04, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Coolies. Ta! Ironholds (talk) 21:26, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Abt the Kosal movement

Do u know anything abt Orissa?? Where r u from by the way?? What if i told u , ur state is going to be split by few separatists???

U r encouraging these separatists by letting them publish nonsense articles. plz stop doing so and let my state remain as one.plz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.85.47.12 (talk) 18:38, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have no opinion about the subject, which is fortunate since my opinion has nothing to do with it. It's against Wikipedia policy to blank out content simply because you don't like it. If you want to make a major change to an article, it's necessary to discuss it on the talk page first and get consensus for the change. And abusive edits to other editors' user pages, like this one, will get you blocked from editing. MuffledThud (talk) 21:07, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Profile of Kosal state movement and Kosal

Hi MuffledThud, Some one has tried to delete the profile of Kosal state movement and Kosal. I think he/she has deleted a lot of content of Kosal. Could you please undo the changes? (14:56, 24 December 2009 (UTC)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skarmee (talk • contribs)

I'll help if I can: what's been deleted, and roughly when do you think it was deleted? MuffledThud (talk) 20:57, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MuffledThud,

I think it was deleted by User talk:192.85.47.12. These guys should be stopped from deleting wiki profiles. News is news, whether it is good or bad and it should not be supressed by the ruling class.

I also urge you to change the name of western Orissa to Koshal region.

Thanks (Skarmee (talk) 06:31, 25 December 2009 (UTC))[reply]

I can see no vandalism to Kosal state movement since 21 Dec., although there was blanking of content on 24 Dec. at Western Orissa, to which Kosal currently redirects. I have no expertise in the geography of that part of the world, and therefore have no opinion on what the correct title of the article should be, but the user who blanked referenced content has been warned and their vandalism reverted. MuffledThud (talk) 07:37, 26 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Heartstring Symphony

Thanks for bringing the oversight to my attention. Fixed now. Jayjg ^(talk) 18:01, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. MuffledThud (talk) 19:09, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Karl Heinz Klee

Sort of scary when an article that you create gets edited before you finish adding the appropriate templates to the talk page. OTOH, at least it wasn't an AFD notice :). The German version (de:Karl Heinz Klee) has some categories in terms of awards that he won that I can't find in English Wikipedia. Naraht (talk) 18:06, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to help. :-) No, I can't find equivalent categories to those in the DE article either. I'll create some. MuffledThud (talk) 20:13, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RfD nomination of "Edwin F. Russell

Apologies

Sorry for the inconvenience, I added my edits to the edit summary page.

Further, Wikipedia has the tendency to put pages up for deletion for no apparent reason. I say this because I often see pages that meet all of Wikipedia's standards up for deletion, causing me to think this is a personal matter regarding vendettas that Wikipedia editors carry out for personal reasons unknown to the general public, as opposed to actual academic research (present company excluded). While I admire that Wikipedia's editors (present company included) are academic and scholarly in nature, I believe that they're too quick to flag and delete (again... present company included).

Lucas' page meets all Wikipedia standards, and after researching him on the internet and at the local library, I found him to be noteworthy, and his citations to be valid.

Also, if you're ever in Los Angeles, we should grab coffee! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.85.119.218 (talk) 00:31, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BIO and WP:CREATIVE are not a vendetta. Please stop removing the AFD notices from the top of Lucas Hardeman: removing them won't stop the WP:AFD process, and the removal will be noticed and reverted. Thank you. MuffledThud (talk) 09:31, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Robert C. Crease

Hallo MuffledThud, thank you for adding the defaulsort template and other categories. I was about to do this, but you preceded me.
Best wishes for the new year and decade (the "zero" years of the 21th century are coming to a close, let's hope for better ones...), Giuseppe from Italy --Gabodon (talk) 10:33, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're most welcome! And a happy new year and decade to you too. Thanks for the very interesting article. MuffledThud (talk) 10:35, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see from your userpage that you are interested in languages. I am too, my favourite languages are English (at which I am largely self-taught, but I think the outcome is good) and French (learned at school, I regret not very well though). I also wrote the section "Indicazioni per la pronuncia" in the it.wiki article "Pronuncia dell'inglese". May I know which are yours? Ciao, Giuseppe --Gabodon (talk) 10:44, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

English is my favorite language too so far, but I'll never learn all there is to know about it, as it constantly evolves and adapts to wherever it travels. I can speak reasonable Spanish, French, Norwegian and German, but my Italian, sadly, is limited to the very basic year-one sort, for getting around your beautiful country without excessively annoying anyone who lives there. I'm very interested in the indigenous languages of the Americas, especially the Yupik languages, and hope to move one day to central Alaska for long enough to properly learn Central Alaskan Yup'ik.

Your section on English pronunciation makes good use of the IPA template. Tell me, are you familar with "Ghoti"? :-) Ghoughpteighbteau currently redirects there too, ~~but I'd say it deserves its own article~~ so I've just added a section there for it. MuffledThud (talk) 11:13, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sattin

Hi Thud, I appreciate your edits on the Anthony Sattin piece. You'll see from my edit history that I've created more than 300 articles in the past 5 years, mostly stubs on topics not yet existing (theatre, literature, etc). Very few of these, if any, have been deleted since. I am well aware of Wiki's notability criteria and care enough not to litter this place with pointless trivia. As for the expansion of the stubs, the inline referencing and all the rest of it, I'm happy to leave it to the efforts of others more methodical than myself. However, I would like to add that I find your repeat addition of the notability tag unnecessary and discouraging. Even the most casual search will indicate that this is a notable travel author. But I guess these are the new rules in Wiki, so we've all got to play by them, whether we like it or not. Regards. Peripatetic (talk) 11:49, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. He seems notable to me too, but the article needs more references to establish notability per WP:AUTHOR. Don't be discouraged: the article just needs improving. Let me know if you want a hand with this. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 11:54, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Lisbon MBA

Hi,

Can you please let me know why you had to redirect the lisbon mba to the catolica university. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kirube (talk • contribs) 14:17, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

An MBA program on its own isn't notable enough for its own article, but worth including in an article about the university that hosts it. I merged your content to Catholic University of Portugal#History, and added a link. MuffledThud (talk) 14:21, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well its not a program offered by either Catolica or Nova, but both in collaboration with MIT. It has its own management team and the faculties are just borrowed from both the places. Kirube —Preceding undated comment added 14:25, 29 December 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Yes, it's linked to from the MIT article, as well as a few others. But you could always add the content to the Nova and MIT Sloan articles, if you think it's appropriate. MuffledThud (talk) 14:27, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That means we will have to put the same article in 3 pages, but having the same article in too many places will not make Wikipedia normalized. There are lots of articles that follow such techniques, for eg: MIT-Entrepreneurship and Innovation, is another article from MIT Sloan. Please feel free to drop me a message before flagging it again. I have also put the information in the talk page of the article. --Kirube (talk) 05:31, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We don't have to put the same content in 3 pages, but you can if you want to.

As for other articles that also ought to be merged, please have a read of WP:OTHERSTUFF: it's easy to find lots more articles that should be merged or deleted, and they all get cleaned up eventually, one at a time. MIT-Entrepreneurship and Innovation turns out to be just one option within MIT's MBA program, and not even a degree in itself, so it's a particularly good example of a topic not notable enough for its own article, and I've now merged it into MIT Entrepreneurship Center where it belongs.

Harvard's, London's, Wharton's, Columbia's and INSEAD's MBA programs, the most famous in the English-speaking world, don't have their own articles. Can you point out any examples at all of MBA programs with their own separate articles on Wikipedia? I can't find any. MuffledThud (talk) 09:02, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kosal state movement

Hi, I got a deletion notice for the pic in Kosal state movement page. See this page:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Balgopal_Mishra.jpg I have taken this picture from a news paper and already acknowledged it. Skarmee (talk) 19:40, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately you can't copy other people's work from newspapers without their permission: please see WP:TAGS and WP:IUP. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 21:18, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Heidi Alexander

her website perhaps--Brutu12 (talk) 23:17, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pardon? MuffledThud (talk) 23:19, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Victor Tourjansky

Thanks for your help with Victor Tourjansky ! Patchen (talk) 23:30, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anytime! I hadn't heard of him before, so thanks for the translation. MuffledThud (talk) 23:37, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]