User talk:Vanished User 2575853/Archive 4

This is an archive of past discussions about User:Vanished User 2575853. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

Archive 1

Archive 2

Archive 3

→

DYK for 1965 Norwegian Second Division

On 8 March 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article 1965 Norwegian Second Division, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that due to Kvik losing 8–2 against Hødd in the decisive match of the 1965 Norwegian Second Division, Kvik's rivals Rosenborg were not promoted on goal difference? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/1965 Norwegian Second Division. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Glenn Arne Hansen

Hi Mentoz, it could be Bradford City (traditionally known as "City" by the locals), or it could be Bradford Park Avenue (traditionally known as "Bradford by the locals). Hansen definitely didn't play for City (my team) in the Football League, but that's not to say he wasn't contracted. My book of (almost) all City players only goes up to 1988 so before Hansen would have signed for us, but I'll do some investigations over the weekend (busy tonight) and will get back to you sometime tomorrow if that's OK? Giant Snowman 17:09, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

I think it's more likely to be City, will ask on the forums as well to see if older fans remember him. What do Norwegian fans do when a city has two clubs use the city's name as the club name i.e. Manchester / Sheffield etc.? Giant Snowman 17:33, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Just seen this on GS's talkpage. According to The Independent newspaper, he signed for Bradford on 28 March 1996 on a loan deal from Drobak/Frogn IL until the end of the season. It won't let me get the full citation information (page number, issue, etc.) even though I can access the actual archive (ie. not through Highbeam). BigDom (talk) 17:35, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, it would be fine to just put that. It would just be nice if we could put more information, but it's not really important. Cheers, BigDom (talk) 14:57, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Good find Dom! Giant Snowman 15:04, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK queue 5

Thanks for the heads up, that should be fixed now :D Harrias ^talk 13:53, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Eirik Holmen Johansen

On 18 March 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Eirik Holmen Johansen, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that after Eirik Holmen Johansen was invited for a trial with Manchester City, his brother Tobias was offered a contract with the club? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Harrias ^talk 08:02, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Tobias Holmen Johansen

On 18 March 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tobias Holmen Johansen, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that after Eirik Holmen Johansen was invited for a trial with Manchester City, his brother Tobias was offered a contract with the club? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Harrias ^talk 08:03, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

List of foreign Norwegian Premier League players

Hi! If you are interested, I've prepared here a more complete list of foreign Norwegian Premier League players. --Roby Fabulous (talk) 21:11, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll bookmark it, and you might even see me correcting it some time :) Mentoz86 (talk) 21:40, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Mats Møller Dæhli

On 20 March 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mats Møller Dæhli, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Mats Møller Dæhli won Manchester United's "Young Player of the Year" award in 2012? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mats Møller Dæhli. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikilinks

Hi, okay, but I would like to refer to WP:REPEATLINK. But you are of the oppinion that "the added value of linking a particular occurrence outweighs the consequent dilution of the value of other links" as it states? – Terje Christiansen (talk) 16:31, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Duwayne Kerr

Kerr's spell at Portmore was actually confirmed by NFT/Soccerway (I can't remember which), it has since been removed so probably not true. Giant Snowman 18:31, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

More likely to be NFT I think - it doesn't mean it's unreliable, in fact if anything it shows that they actively re-check and correct stuff. Giant Snowman 12:13, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Erik Johannessen (footballer)

On 23 March 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Erik Johannessen (footballer), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Erik Johannessen kept a clean sheet for 672 minutes in the 1974 Norwegian First Division? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Erik Johannessen (footballer). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for 1974 Norwegian First Division

On 23 March 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article 1974 Norwegian First Division, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Erik Johannessen kept a clean sheet for 672 minutes in the 1974 Norwegian First Division? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

QpQ not missing

Hi Mentoz86. My QpQ has been done long time ago. Please see this: [1] and: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/All-Night_Vigil_(Tchaikovsky). Thank you. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 01:11, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

I am sorry, I did not notice. Mentoz86 (talk) 03:43, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Thank you. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 04:56, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry again Mentoz but you had initially promoted Leslie Finer and then you reverted yourself thinking that I had not done my QpQ. I just wanted to ask you if you would still be interested in promoting the nomination. I would understand if you don't want to do it for whatever reason. Thanks again. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 16:57, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
- It was when building a set I realized that the QPQ was missing. I might build a set or two later on, but the chance that I including your hook is about 1 to 70 (given that it's 70 approved hooks atm) :) Mentoz86 (talk) 17:07, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
  - No problem. Thanks for the explanation. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 19:21, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Re: Henry Ezeh

Ya, I know that. I just was not think properly. Also about the sentences: I just got lazy and did the sentence quickly and referenced. Eventually I got so lazy that I just stopped expanding the career section and finished the rest. I plan on going back to the page later today and removing some repetitive information from the career section. Cheers. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 14:00, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Kim Deinoff

On 29 March 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kim Deinoff, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Kim Deinoff was once bitten in the arm by an opponent during a football match? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kim Deinoff. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Ruben Yttergård Jenssen

On 29 March 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ruben Yttergård Jenssen, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that when Ruben Yttergård Jenssen (pictured) was signed by Tromsø IL in 2006, the head coach claimed it was better in some respects than signing Ronaldinho? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ruben Yttergård Jenssen. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 16:02, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 March newsletter

We are halfway through round two. Pool A sees the strongest competition, with five out of eight of its competitors scoring over 100, and Pool H is lagging, with half of its competitors yet to score. WikiCup veterans lead overall; Pool A's Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) (2010's winner) leads overall, with poolmate Miyagawa (submissions) (a finalist in 2011 and 2012) not far behind. Pool F's Casliber (submissions) (a finalist in 2010, 2011 and 2012) is in third. The top two scorers in each pool, as well as the next highest 16 scorers overall, will progress to round three at the end of April.

Today has seen a number of Easter-themed did you knows from WikiCup participants, and March has seen collaboration from contestants with WikiWomen's History Month. It's great to see the WikiCup being used as a locus of collaboration; if you know of any collaborative efforts going on, or want to start anything up, please feel free to use the WikiCup talk page to help find interested editors. As well as fostering collaboration, we're also seeing the Cup encouraging the improvement of high-importance articles through the bonus point system. Highlights from the last month include GAs on physicist Niels Bohr ( Hawkeye7 (submissions)), on the European hare ( Cwmhiraeth (submissions)), on the constellation Circinus ( Keilana (submissions) and Casliber (submissions)) and on the Third Epistle of John ( Cerebellum (submissions)). All of these subjects were covered on at least 50 Wikipedias at the beginning of the year and, subsequently, each contribution was awarded at least three times as many points as normal.

Wikipedians who enjoy friendly competition may be interested in participating in April's wikification drive. While wikifying an article is typically not considered "significant work" such that it can be claimed for WikiCup points, such gnomish work is often invaluable in keeping articles in shape, and is typically very helpful for new writers who may not be familiar with formatting norms.

A quick reminder: now, submission pages will need only a link to the article and a link to the nomination page, or, in the case of good article reviews, a link to the review only. See your submissions' page for details. This will hopefully make updating submission pages a little less tedious. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) J Milburn (talk) 23:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for FL Fart

On 1 April 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article FL Fart, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that a Norwegian organization established a women's fart team? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/FL Fart. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Stub sorting

Just a matter of wording: "Stub sorting" is looking at an article which already has {{stub}} and deciding what to do with it (in the case of Intel Array Visualizer, I amended it to {{software-stub}}). What you did needed an edit summary of "Add stub tag", "label as stub", or just "stub" would be fine. Thanks for using an edit summary, but it's better to use phrases in their standard Wikipedia usage. Thanks. PamD 08:25, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your constructive feed-back. I'll remember it next time :) Mentoz86 (talk) 08:26, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

International years

Hi, I have reverted your edit at Harmeet Singh - just because a player has not played for a year does not mean his international career is over, and therefore the dash should remain. Giant Snowman 09:14, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

But when is his international career over? I can agree that Singh will most probably play for Norway again (unless the Indians can persuade him), but I regularly remove the dash from players that are removed from the "Recent call-ups" section at Norway national football team, as I've seen too many Norwegian players where the dash is still alive, even though they haven't played for Norway in five years, and noone would consider them as "national team players" anymore. When is it correct to remove the dash? If Singh gets selected for a national team squad again, it wouldn't be that big a deal to add the dash again, but I've seen too many outdated articles on Norwegian footballers, so I think it is best to remove the dash once they are removed from the national-team article (one year after they was last included in a Norway-squad). Those players that I've removed the dash from today (Mustafa Abdellaoue, Thomas Sørum, Harmeet Singh, Thomas Drage, Simen Brenne, Even Hovland and Steffen Hagen) were selected for a squad consisting of only home-based players (which would be considered a B-squad in other countries) in January last year, and were not selected for the same squad with home-based players this year, and are really far away from the "real" national team squad. Mentoz86 (talk) 09:23, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

That is pure WP:OR and against long-established consensus at FOOTY. There's Guðmundur Steinarsson - he got his 1st cap in 2002 and second in 2008. Using your logic, his int'l career would have been 'over' for a number years even though it wasn't. That's incorrect information. Obviously that's an extreme example, and you could make an argument that anyone who hasn't played/been called-up for a number of years has their dash removed - but the Singh edit is just plain wrong. Giant Snowman 09:32, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, saying that these players will be capped again, is WP:CRYSTAL isn't it? Obviously, Singh was not eligible for the January 2013 squad, as he had move abroad, but the other 6 are far away from the national team and it makes more sence that these "... played X matches for the national team in 2012" rather then "... is currently playing for the Norwegian national team, and has been capped X times since 2012", which in my eyes is the difference between having a dash or not. I have no knowledge about Steinarsson, if he was a part of any Iceland-squads between 2002 and 2008, but I would not call Steinarsson a "current" Iceland national team player in 2007, if he hadn't been a part of any Iceland-squads since 2002. The last discussion I saw on WT:FOOTY was that the international career in infobox should be closed after x number of years, I believe it was if the player had not been a part of a national squad for a whole qualification stage (two years), but I can't find that discussion. Mentoz86 (talk) 09:57, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Two years is too soon, I'd say 4 years would be a safe minimum. Either way, Singh is not eligible for having his dash removed. Giant Snowman 10:07, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Still disagree, but I'll leave it as it is. :) Mentoz86 (talk) 10:20, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Feel free to raise at FOOTY, this is the second time in as many days I've encountered editors removing dashes (though in the other example, the player in question had last played for the national team 2 months ago!). Giant Snowman 10:31, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I would, but as my wiki-time is limited, and it is not that big a deal to me, I'll put it somewhere on my "to-do list", and instead do something I told you I would do 11 months ago ([2]) :) Mentoz86 (talk) 10:37, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Mentoz86 was right here. Removing the dash would be the least misleading. Geschichte (talk) 07:25, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Espen Hægeland

On 5 April 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Espen Hægeland, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Norwegian footballer Espen Hægeland scored more than 50 goals for Lyngdal IL in 2012? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Espen Hægeland. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Template:Did you know nominations/Saint George Greek Orthodox Cathedral

The QPQ has been finished. Was that the only thing holding up this nom? -- Esemono (talk) 03:10, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for notyfing me. I've now approved the nomination. Mentoz86 (talk) 03:16, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Harmeet Singh

Re this edit - "clean up" was entirely appropriate, I added a reference which challenged unsourced material, what was wrong with that? Giant Snowman 15:22, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Egersunds IK

On 12 April 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Egersunds IK, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Norwegian football club Egersunds IK won promotion to the third tier in 2011 because IK Start was relegated from the top flight? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Egersunds IK. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:02, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Flamur Kastrati

On 15 April 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Flamur Kastrati, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that after Flamur Kastrati was injured in a match between MSV Duisburg and Energie Cottbus, both teams stopped playing football? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Flamur Kastrati. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

A Barnstar you should have received a long time ago.

		The Norwegian Barnstar of National Merit
		For your unsurpassed efforts in relation to articles covering Norwegian football, I hereby present you with The Norwegian Barnstar of National Merit. Manxruler (talk) 23:33, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
		_{this WikiAward was given to Mentoz86 by Manxruler (talk) on 23:33, 20 April 2013 (UTC)}

Thank you for your recognition. It is appreciated. Mentoz86 (talk) 09:41, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Erik Midtgarden

On 23 April 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Erik Midtgarden, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Norwegian footballer Erik Midtgarden won the Estonian Meistriliiga with Flora Tallinn in 2011? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Erik Midtgarden. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Alex Valencia

Hello! Your submission of Alex Valencia at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! —♦♦ AMBER^(ЯʘCK) 21:56, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

50 Norwegian footballers

		The 50 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
		Hi Mentoz86, I see you are on a Wikibreak after creating over 50 DYKs which seem to be mostly about Norwegian footballers. I know how enthusiastic Norwegians are for football so I suspect that you still have a few left to do. Thank you from the DYK project, me and the wiki! Victuallers (talk) 22:07, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! It might be small area of interest to be editing in, but there are still hundreds of potential DYK's out there about Norwegian football. :) Mentoz86 (talk) 01:30, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Sigh...

Here's another IP from our Norwegian "friend" (please see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/217.199.54.137), apparently has tons of anon addresses, removed B-club in Míchel Salgado's box at least. It seems a lost battle...

Happy weekend, from Portugal --AL (talk) 23:25, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, that IP would be easier to block, given that all contributions from that user in April are non-constructive, not like our other friend where every second edit were positive contributions. Keep your head up, and keep up the good work - he will get tired before you do. :) Mentoz86 (talk) 01:24, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Alex Valencia

On 29 April 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Alex Valencia, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Alex Valencia was named "player of the year" when IK Start won silver in the 2005 Norwegian Premier League? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alex Valencia. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

TfD

you may wish to comment here. Frietjes (talk) 23:16, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Precious

football teams
Thank you for quality articles on Norwegian footballers, such as Kurt Heggestad, for letting us know about a women's fart team, for tireless maintenance work around DYK, deletions and projects on article talk pages, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm amazed that you actually managed to include all my contributions to Wikipedia in one sentance :D Mentoz86 (talk) 08:14, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

I didn't, I returned to thank for your trust in the value of infoboxes ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:20, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

:D Mentoz86 (talk) 08:25, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Andreas Tegström

On 3 May 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Andreas Tegström, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Andreas Tegström and Andreas Augustsson scored the goals when Norwegian football club Sandefjord secured promotion to Tippeligaen for the first time? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Andreas Tegström. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Andreas Augustsson

On 3 May 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Andreas Augustsson, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Andreas Tegström and Andreas Augustsson scored the goals when Norwegian football club Sandefjord secured promotion to Tippeligaen for the first time? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Bård Finne

On 5 May 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bård Finne, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Bård Finne scored four goals when SK Brann won 14–0 in the 2013 Norwegian Football Cup? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bård Finne. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

2013 FA Cup Final DYK

I noticed you asked a question about the 2013 FA Cup Final DYK. I have responded to your concerns. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 10:18, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I've replied again. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 11:40, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

...and again. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 17:41, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I've suggested an alternate hook. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 20:34, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Funny thing though, with this new notification system, I notice your reply on the nomination page in my watchlist long before I notice you've sent me a message on my talkpage :P Mentoz86 (talk) 20:49, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Michu - Reply

Hi there MENTOZ, AL "here",

i've seen hundreds of external links in foreign languages here. Oddly enough, they seem to be removed quite a lot whenever i battle hard for their permanence. I give up officially.

Oddly enough X 2: why are external links not in English a "no-no" and references in ALL languages (Azeri, Finnish, Slovenian, Welsh) a "yes-yes"? I will notify your countryman Terje C. about this also (the fact that i give up).

Happy week - --AL (talk) 20:35, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I agree my friend, one should definitely not go against policy. But policies could be changed, my only "concern" (for lack of a better word) at the moment. Take care, hopefully i did not cross any line in terms of politeness in my original message, not my intention if so. --AL (talk) 20:54, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I am going to start a discussion at WP:FOOTY, please do participate. Rules can (and must!) be changed, and i'm not just talking about WP man, life in general :) --AL (talk) 22:05, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

According to one of the users that chose to participate in the discussion (see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#WP:NONENGEL), there is no consensus, it's (his words) a "preferred choice". But don't worry, i won't reinstate Michu's link. --AL (talk) 13:49, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Magnus Stamnestrø

On 6 May 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Magnus Stamnestrø, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Magnus Stamnestrø scored the goal that made his club have the worst season-opener by a defending champion in Norwegian football? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Magnus Stamnestrø. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Einar Halle

Hello! Your submission of Einar Halle at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! —♦♦ AMBER^(ЯʘCK) 15:08, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 April newsletter

We are a week into Round 3, but it is off to a flying start, with Sven Manguard (submissions) claiming for the high-importance Portal:Sports and Portal:Geography (which are the first portals ever awarded bonus points in the WikiCup) and Cwmhiraeth (submissions) claiming for a did you know of sea, the highest scoring individual did you know article ever submitted for the WikiCup. Round 2 saw very impressive scores at close; first place Casliber (submissions) and second place Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) both scored over 1000 points; a feat not seen in Round 2 since 2010. This, in part, has been made possible by the change in the bonus points rules, but is also testament to the quality of the competition this year. Pool C and Pool G were most competitive, with three quarters of participants making it to Round 3, while Pool D was the least, with only the top two scorers making it through. The lowest qualifying score was 123, significantly higher than last year's 65, 2011's 41 or even 2010's 100.

The next issue of The Signpost is due to include a brief update on the current WikiCup, comparing it to previous years' competitions. This may be of interest to current WikiCup followers, and may help bring some more new faces into the community. We would also like to note that this round includes an extra competitor to the 32 advertised, who has been added to a random pool. This extra inclusion seems to have been the fairest way to deal with a small mistake made before the beginning of this round, but should not affect the competition in a large way. If you have any questions or concerns about this, please feel free to contact one of the judges.

A rules clarification: content promoted between rounds can be claimed in the round after the break, but not the round before. The case in point is content promoted on 29/30 April, which may be claimed in this round. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 16:24, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

playerhistory etc

Hello. I've replied at the ANI thread. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:28, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Einar Halle

On 20 May 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Einar Halle, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Norwegian referee Einar Halle has admitted that some clubs have tried to bribe him ahead of matches? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Einar Halle. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

— Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:52, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Updated live matches.

You do know, I am not the only wikipedian updated live matches. Cup matches have always been done live. Skyblueshaun 19:34, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Thomas Schaaf - Bits and pieces

Hi there MENTOZ, AL "here",

i have reverted you here because: 1 - one thing is the wikilink of the competition (i.e. FA Cup, Ligue 1, etc, etc), another thing is the SEASON of the given competition (i.e. 2009-10 Coupe de France", "2006-07 Segunda División", etc), we should mention BOTH if it's the first time we write about a tournament/competition, in the following lines it's OK to mention only the season of competition; 2 - if Schaaf was fired in May 2013 after finishing a disappointing 14th in the league, it's OBVIOUS we're talking about the "2012-13 FUSSBALL-BUNDESLIGA", it makes for very poor display to say "Werder finished a disappointing 14th in the 2012-13 FUSSBALL-BUNDESLIGA", especially when/because the link of competition (FUSSBALL-BUNDESLIGA) is already mentioned earlier.

All in all: 1 - please don't revert me also; 2 - sorry for any inconvenience. --AL (talk) 22:57, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

You revert me, but still you don't want me to revert you? :P I was made aware of this article through "TJ"'s talk-page, and I was thinking "in this case, AL is wrong". The problem is the piped links qualifying, the playoff stages and finishing a disappointing fourteenth - I would call the first two EGGS. The word "qualifying" shouldn't point to 2009–10 UEFA Europa League, unless it points to the qualifying phase of that tournament. Same with the words "the playoff stages" - it shouldn't point to 2010–11 UEFA Champions League unless it point to the playoff stages of that tournament. Yes, I understand why you want to include the links to both the seasons and the tournament, but then you have to write the sentences differently. In the last sentence I edited I would recommend "Schaaf left Bremen on 15 May 2013 by mutual consent after finishing a disappointing fourteenth in the league", it looks better and it is a more precise way of wikilinking. I wont revert you - I'll give you a couple of days to fix these issues, and I recommend reading WP:LINKING#Piped links and WP:PIPING before you do it. Cheers, Mentoz86 (talk) 08:04, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks mate, i'll duly address it. Thanks for your (as always) kindness and understanding. --AL (talk) 09:34, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

EXTRA: i forgot this, for extra "illumination" maybe: if a team finishes in X position in its domestic league (or wins a domestic cup) in 2008-09, to what season of the EL or the CL will it qualify to? Pretty obvious it's 2009-10 no? I've left more or less the links how you want to, even though i totally but politely disagree with you, in the first two items, not the third, there we see eye to eye. --AL (talk) 22:50, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

More: and what if i write "qualified for THE FOLLOWING SEASON'S Champions League" (without the capitals of course)? Also, i noticed UEFA Champions League was overlinked, "took care" of that :) --AL (talk) 22:51, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Career statistics tables

Hi. Yes, the sources covers different periods; or competitions. And all the refs I include have been used to find the stats that are in the career statistics tables, so there is no unnecessary references included, I would claim. Also I wouldn't call it bombardment, since that is defined as "the placement of a large number of references in an article in hopes that this will prevent it from ever getting deleted", which is clearly not the case here.

Regarding Vidar Riseth:

He played for Luton in both 1995 and 1996 so it's 1995–1996 (Soccerbase / Altomfotball).
I would suggest that you use ref #11 as a source instead of ref #2, since #2 doesn't confirm that he played in the Euro 2000.
I don't understand why the county of his birthplace can't be included.
I don't think the bit about Vålerenga is necessary to mention. He didn't play any official games for the club – only participating in training, as far as I know. And he didn't train with them for long either, since he played for Bygdø Monolitten in fourth division in 2011 (Nettavisen)
I don't think it's a stub, since I don't think it's "an article deemed too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of a subject."And the WP:DESTUB also says that "(no article should contain both a stub template and an expand template)". But stub or not stub; both options are fine with me. Regards – Terje Christiansen (talk) 15:17, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Yes, it's probably possible to have in-line citations, and I have used that now in Riseth's article.

Don't know which source to check to verify the statistics in the table, you say? I use "Riseth's Rosenborg stats" (for example) as a title so it's easier to see what stats the source covers. Also; often the sources have errors, so you sometimes need to check different sources to find the correct stat. If you for example visit ref #4, you will see that in 1993 Riseth is listed with 9 apps for Rosenborg, and not 10 which is in the table now. But this doesn't mean that the stat in the table is wrong, because if you visit ref #5, you will see that it should be 10 games (Fotball.no usually tends to have a few errors, but not that many as National Football Teams for example – which I usually tend to not use if there are other sources available). [This is probably not a issue now]

Also I have to say that the table that was added to Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Players is not a style that impress me much; I much prefer the style that is found on Parr's or the style on Riseth's page for example (pretty much the same except the total). I think I'll retire if I need to use that style. – Terje Christiansen (talk) 15:33, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Scheduling consideration

We have merged 12 new articles into a total of 6 hooks to avoid hook congestion. With only 6 hooks would you reconsider your one per queue suggestion at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#67th_Tony_Awards_scheduling, where I am requesting the 6 hooks be scheduled across the 4 targeted queues for optimal newsiness.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:48, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Players

Hi. This statistics table you added, is that style something there has been reached a consensus on using, or is it just a option/suggestion. Regards – Terje Christiansen (talk) 21:49, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Norway squad 1989 FIFA World Youth Championship

Template:Norway squad 1989 FIFA World Youth Championship has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. C 679 07:11, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Norway squad 2002 UEFA European Under-19 Football Championship

Template:Norway squad 2002 UEFA European Under-19 Football Championship has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. C 679 07:11, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Undoing my edits.

Hello, I would just like to know why, All of my edits from your are being reverted back to what it was. Live scores happens on cup matches. It has been going on for quite a few years know so I guess it's nothing wrong. Can you stop undoing them please. Thanks Skyblueshaun 17:58, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

If you wonder why I do it, you can check your talk-page for the message I sent you one week ago. (or read the other talk-page messages you've received, like this one from Kante in June 2011)Instead of asking me to stop undoing your edits, you should start updating articles after the matches are finished. Looking at your contributions, I am curious if you intend to revisit Ahmed Hegazy's article after the match is done, or if you want someone else to clean up your mess. Mentoz86 (talk) 17:09, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I'll stop doing live score update's, I'll warn you I am not the only person doing it but from know on I'll be one less. Also on the Ahmed Hegazy page, Yes I will return to it once the match is finished. I have never left my work undone. Thanks Skyblueshaun 18:21, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Cheers, good thing. Keep up the good work! (as long as you wait till the whistle is blown) ;) Mentoz86 (talk) 17:29, 4 June 2013 (UTC)