User talk:MarnetteD/archive67
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Wut happen
What happens to your sandbox? Starkiryu64 (talk) 05:23, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Starkiryu64. This is my talk page rather than a sandbox. All I did was archive it as it was getting kinda long. It is something that some editors (though not all) do from time to time. There are several reasons for doing so. The main one for me is so that I don't have to scroll past a lot of old threads to get to the most recent ones. My fingers (like the rest of me) are getting older and they get achy when I have to use the scroll function on my mouse too muchย :-) I hope you are well and please enjoy the rest of your week! MarnetteD|Talk 05:31, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks for notifying me about it. Starkiryu64 (talk) 05:42, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
As promised
A beer on me! | ||
For your kind assistance in fixing up my archive display Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 16:33, 26 February 2021 (UTC) |
Thanks...
...for that!. I knew the page existed, but didn't off the top of my head know where to find it. Take care, happy days, LindsayHello 07:50, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- You are welcome LindsayH. There are so many policy and guideline pages around here and new ones are being created all the timeย :-) I hope you have a pleasant week. MarnetteD|Talk 20:57, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
March flowers
Today: Carmen for TFA (on my request), with Bizet's music "expressing the emotions and suffering of his characters" as Brian worded it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:42, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Gerda Arendt. A special and beautiful post for several reasons. Carmen was the second opera I saw live back in 1975. Isabel Leonard has been eagerly anticipating singing the role. Sadly her planned performance with the Houston Opera last year was cancelled due to the pandemic. Thanks again. MarnetteD|Talk 17:14, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for sharing. My second opera was Gianni Schicchi, also a Brian articleย ;) - perhaps that could be the next one for TFA. He set great standards, - we can't show them enough. - Just saw Carmen as the last live opera before the lockdown, wonderful Barrie Kosky production, and Paula Murrihy exceptional. glimpse video. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:43, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Well I'm a whole day behind on my thanks Gerta. Looks like a fascinating production of Carmen. I may have left this link for you to enjoy before but it is always worth another look. Both of these make me wish I was located in Europe so I could hop on a train and be in the audience for these remarkable performances. Toi toi toi. MarnetteD|Talk 16:40, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- No, this one seems new - and rather not to be forgotten! Thank you! - As it happens, I just nominated Template:Did you know nominations/Elsa Dreisig another young singer, article translated by LouisAlain, I go over it - and then discover that I heard her in the Rameau, Simon Rattle conducting. - No live performances though, you can stay put. Carmen was last year, just before everything closed. I heard her in the livestream of Manon just now, but my bell again didn't ring when I saw the name. Nice reflections on YouTube (bottom of her article), on the Violet Snow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:52, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Just got back from watching a few of Elsa's performances Gerda. What a treat. Best wishes to her as her career continues. From what I can tell that Cenerentola was the last opera that Isabel got to perform in before things shut down. I had tickets for her concert with the Romeros at the Lensic Theater next month but the expected cancellation announcement arrived yesterdayย :-( Good luck on the DYK. MarnetteD|Talk 20:31, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- I expect no problems with the DYK, - excellent sources for a change. On IWD next week, I'll have a singer in each set. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:40, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- today (IWD): MMMM with a reference to Carmen again --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:46, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Very nice. As ever thanks for sharing GA. MarnetteD|Talk 23:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Today, two men, another who died, Dmitri Bashkirov, and one started by a friend, Benjamin Appl, and I heard only good things about his singing: those discoveries are the joys here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Very nice. As ever thanks for sharing GA. MarnetteD|Talk 23:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Just got back from watching a few of Elsa's performances Gerda. What a treat. Best wishes to her as her career continues. From what I can tell that Cenerentola was the last opera that Isabel got to perform in before things shut down. I had tickets for her concert with the Romeros at the Lensic Theater next month but the expected cancellation announcement arrived yesterdayย :-( Good luck on the DYK. MarnetteD|Talk 20:31, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- No, this one seems new - and rather not to be forgotten! Thank you! - As it happens, I just nominated Template:Did you know nominations/Elsa Dreisig another young singer, article translated by LouisAlain, I go over it - and then discover that I heard her in the Rameau, Simon Rattle conducting. - No live performances though, you can stay put. Carmen was last year, just before everything closed. I heard her in the livestream of Manon just now, but my bell again didn't ring when I saw the name. Nice reflections on YouTube (bottom of her article), on the Violet Snow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:52, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Well I'm a whole day behind on my thanks Gerta. Looks like a fascinating production of Carmen. I may have left this link for you to enjoy before but it is always worth another look. Both of these make me wish I was located in Europe so I could hop on a train and be in the audience for these remarkable performances. Toi toi toi. MarnetteD|Talk 16:40, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
... and today Bach's cantata composed for today, - perhaps listen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:50, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks so much Gerta. I'm listening to and enjoying it as I type. I sure am glad the internet is around so I can find performances of the music you recommend right away rather than having to find it on disk or tape at the storeย :-) Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 16:51, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- ... and the first performance was on a Palm Sunday which is today, and Yoninah's obituary with the beginning of Passover today - putting some little ego-battles in perspective --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:09, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- Beautiful and timely Gerta. A nice tribute to Yoninah. Stretching back over a decade now I am deeply affected by the passing of these editors who I never met yet am humbled, honored and proud to have worked with them. Have a nice week. MarnetteD|Talk 22:17, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Yes, anyone โ even you โ could have added that title. I noted the problem. You removed the template note, and you declined to fix it. Maybe next time you'll choose a different course. I've fixed it; something you could have done too. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen (โ) 00:55, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- You did not "note the problem" that was on that page 7&6=thirteen. You asked for a bare url to be formatted and that was not a bare url. The reference was in a cite template. I hope you are aware of the difference. If you want something like that fixed and you don't want to do it yourself please try using the correct template. Wikipedia:WikiProject Citation cleanup has instructions and a list of the templates that you will want to use in the future. Maybe next time you will choose a different course and use one of those. MarnetteD|Talk 02:19, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- It wasn't an insult, for God's sake. I was not throwing stones, and you should not either. Fixing the problem is a preferred course for me; and if not for you, than so be it. I apologize, and will desist from further interaction with you. 7&6=thirteen (โ) 04:35, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- It certainly reads like one 7&6=thirteen. As I replied in the same manner that your post presented I must not have throw any stones either. First, if fixing the problem truly was your preferred course then you would have added the title yourself. Next, I try and help to fix problems all the time with varying degrees of success. Claiming that working on them "is not the course for me" is another stone that you probably think you didn't throw. The statement is out of line if you take the time to examine my nearly 16 years of editing. Next, the problem on that page was that you used a template that had nothing to do with the problem that was there. I now understand that you were not aware of that. Hopefully this will help you to learn the difference and use the correct template to help other editors in the future. I have had good interactions with you in the past and would be happy for any more to occur in the future. But, if future interaction is to be avoided I certainly understand and will abide by your wishes except in any situation where it is required by policy. MarnetteD|Talk 05:24, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- Your edit summary said I could have fixed it; that was mutually true. That I replied in kind was not a WP:Personal attack, no more than was your edit summary. When I put up a bare url template, it usually merely prompts someone to cure it using "Filled in 1 bare reference(s) with reFill". That didn't happen; and you removed the template. Anyway, no insult was intended.
- I used the 'wrong template' as you say.
- I've been here over thirteen years, and except for someone deliberately and tenaciously being nonhelpful at ARS, which I characterized as repeated disruptive trollish behavior (and it is IMO), have never had a a problem. I now understand that they get to come in and make accusations about canvassing or commenting at the ARS listing of a particular article as to reasons why it should not be improved (they do get to do that at the AFD discussions for sure), as much as they want, and I should not say anything. 'Let trolls be trolls' and don't say anything. ANI has spoken: "ARS is not a walled garden."
- These disrupters do not subscribe to the purpose of ARS. Since the behavior speaks for itself, and I've been warned, in the future I will let it go without comment or interaction.
- Saying that the article at an AFD should be preserved because of its content or because it meets various standards is not a "personal insult." But any of my participation at AFD will be subject to scrutiny. This line of conversation reinforces that concern.
Your bringing up the ANI was connecting unrelated dots. That you invoked alleged violations and possible further sanctions is chilling on further conversation. You get to do that too. I thought it was an unwarranted low blow, but I will take it into account.Apparently I am now wearing a scarlet letter and a target, and should watch what I say all the time, as my motives are now in question. That is your view, and I am saddened by that. I'll keep it in mind.- Thus endeth the lesson for me.
- Happy editing. 10:53, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- It certainly reads like one 7&6=thirteen. As I replied in the same manner that your post presented I must not have throw any stones either. First, if fixing the problem truly was your preferred course then you would have added the title yourself. Next, I try and help to fix problems all the time with varying degrees of success. Claiming that working on them "is not the course for me" is another stone that you probably think you didn't throw. The statement is out of line if you take the time to examine my nearly 16 years of editing. Next, the problem on that page was that you used a template that had nothing to do with the problem that was there. I now understand that you were not aware of that. Hopefully this will help you to learn the difference and use the correct template to help other editors in the future. I have had good interactions with you in the past and would be happy for any more to occur in the future. But, if future interaction is to be avoided I certainly understand and will abide by your wishes except in any situation where it is required by policy. MarnetteD|Talk 05:24, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- It wasn't an insult, for God's sake. I was not throwing stones, and you should not either. Fixing the problem is a preferred course for me; and if not for you, than so be it. I apologize, and will desist from further interaction with you. 7&6=thirteen (โ) 04:35, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- I am sorry to read about your problems in other areas 7&6=thirteen. I need to point out that I have not mentioned ANI at all in this thread. I am not aware of all that you have been through. Hang in there if you can. I know you are a good editor and have the best interests of the project at heart. Most important is for you to take care of yourself both here and in real life. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 20:32, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
I again apologize. I misunderstood what you said. I guess when you are in a foxhole you expect incoming fire. 7&6=thirteen (โ) 21:09, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- You are right about that! Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 22:40, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- And there is nothing to do.
- I was cutting down on my editing anyway. I should cut down on it more. It is addictive and in the end nobody cares anyway. But that is the Wikipedia way. Real life intrudes โ needs more of my attention, not less.
- I've wasted enough of your time. Be careful out there. 7&6=thirteen (โ) 23:11, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
This month's articles for cleanup
This month the articles for cleanup have a bunch that have a reason of changing long comma-ed lists to bulleted. I started out doing them (I can do it semi-mechanically by pasting into a text editor and doing a replace and make them multi-column) but as I do more of them I wonder if it is really an improvement. Have you seen these? Do you have an opinion on changing them? RJFJR (talk) 01:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi RJFJR. Can you give me an example or two? I've been going through your recent edits but you so much (excellent) work that I'm having trouble finding something to see to where I can answer your question. Ahead of that, and to get more input than just mine, you should think about asking at a village pump. I'm not sure which one would be best but the WP:VPIL or the WP:VPM would be a place to start. Cheers to ya. MarnetteD|Talk 02:24, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- Here are two histories (where I made the changes in steps) Phuthiatsana hist, Ranau_(federal_constituency) hist and here are a couple of talk pages where I started a discussion Talk:2018 Voyager Media Awards, Talk:Mikhail Shubin (mathematician), Talk:Anacamptodes fragilaria. RJFJR (talk) 22:28, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks RJFJR. The bulleted lists are a definite improvement. As to the column situation that can be tricky and opinions will differ between editors. For me a list of less then ten items only needs one column. After that I'm okay with two columns but I would hold off using three or four columns until you get lists that are 50 items and over. For my eye the more columns that get used the more the info gets a bit too smooshed together and, thus, harder to read. Now this is all just my opinion and the VP's I mentioned above would be a good place to get answers if you have more questions. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 23:57, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- Here are two histories (where I made the changes in steps) Phuthiatsana hist, Ranau_(federal_constituency) hist and here are a couple of talk pages where I started a discussion Talk:2018 Voyager Media Awards, Talk:Mikhail Shubin (mathematician), Talk:Anacamptodes fragilaria. RJFJR (talk) 22:28, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Template talk:Infobox personโ
I have just made my point here. There is absolutely no consensus there for your changes, and even if there was, you would need a RFC to change literally thousands of articles, including numerous FAs. GiantSnowman 17:40, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- The documentation is quite clear as is current WP:CONSENSUS. If you have to read the same name over and over again at the top of the article then that is the way it goes. BTW restoring fields that no longer show in the infobox indicated that you aren't paying attention to what you are doing. MarnetteD|Talk 17:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- I did nothing more (or less) than revert your edits which used misleading edit summaries. GiantSnowman 22:48, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- The summaries were not misleading and you clearly restored fields that had been deactivated. As you don't seem to comprehend this I ask that you not post here again. MarnetteD|Talk 23:41, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
- I did nothing more (or less) than revert your edits which used misleading edit summaries. GiantSnowman 22:48, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Greetings
Enjoy a pint on Saint Patrick's Day. Michael!
Looking forward to Super Saturday.
Keep safe.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:32, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- He could use it under 3' of snow!! ----Dr.Margi โ 17:58, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks to you both GG-J and DM. Somehow I was smart enough to lay in some Guinness and Redbreast (whiskey) before the snow hit. I will be enjoying them later tonight. Slรกinte. MarnetteD|Talk 18:14, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Bare URL inside MI issue
First of all, Thank you for all the tireless contribution of cleaning bare URLs.
Since the day you suggested not using a bare URL tag inside MI, I had taken utmost care of not doing so. But the gadget Twinkle has a bug that automatically groups the tag into MI sometimes. I had reported the bug on Twinkle's talk page here. Please bear till the bug gets resolved.
Thank You once again! -Ninney (talk) 02:30, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Ninney. I appreciate your efforts in this. I know it creates more work for you to make sure the tag is outside the MI. It is more work for me if it is inside so it just a trade off who has to do the extra clicking with the mouseย :-) Thanks for reporting it at twinkle - there has been a discussion or two about this before but no changes were made. Those were a year or two ago so things might be different this time - we can always hope. Thanks again and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 02:40, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
I really need help with editing
Hi I see that you have edited the List of fugitives from justice who disappeared. Do you think that you could help me add some entries to missing person's lists? I have my hands completely full with editing and could really use some help, and would be very thankful to get any help. Davidgoodheart (talk) 22:33, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Davidgoodheart. I'm afraid I know nothing about the subject. I was just formatting bare urls. My apologies for not being of help. Thank you a ton for your editing on that list and for everything else you do here at the 'pedia. I hope you have a nice week! MarnetteD|Talk 02:44, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Problems with relink?
Are you having any problems running reflinks? I get an oddly colorful memory when I try to run it. RJFJR (talk) 03:31, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi RJFJR. Yep reflinks is down - since Saturday. I posted about it here Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Can anyone find out what is going on?. Since it is being maintained in parts unknown there is no way to find out what is going on or when it might be fixed. I'm trying it a couple times a day to see if it is working. Add to that the fact that refill2 went down several hours ago and we are 95% sunk. I've been using citer on articles with just a few bare urls but that is labor intensive since it only fixes one ref at a time. Fingers crossed that things return to normal soon. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 04:04, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you,ย MarnetteD, for your help fixing bare URLs when I have been busy with non-Wikipedia tasks.
In reference to the most recent article I tagged for bare URLs, Crimea, I was glancing for information when I came across [2] and [3] display tags that weren't superscript; mouseovering the refs confirmed these as bare URLs. I didn't notice the [1] display tag until after you had removed the template; curiously, when I mouseovered this one, it displayed as a bare URL, but I can't find any evidence of this in the article's revision history. In retrospect, I had multiple display tabs open, and likely meant the PDF bare URL [49] presently in ยง Ukrainian Republic (de jure since 1991, de facto 1991โ2014) (the TOC section was highlighted in my browser); I will fix this one myself. You caught the bare URL in ยง Russian Federation (de facto since 2014), which I had missed.
Thank you for making things right. โย Christopher, Sheridan, OR (talk) 11:02, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for the yummy cookie Christopher, Sheridan, OR. Both refill2 and reflinks are down so in an article that big it is hard to find the bare urls no matter how many times I comb through the reference section. Your edit summary helped me track them down. Cheers and enjoy the rest of your week. MarnetteD|Talk 14:51, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Bare URLs
My apologies for leaving so many of these tags. For some bizarre reason neither Refill or Reflinks is working for me right now. Reflinks has been down for a few days, and refill stopped working yesterday. Onel5969 TT me 14:49, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- No worries Onel5969. reflinks has been down since Friday and refill2 went down a couple days later. Sadly, there seems to be no way to find out what is going on as they aren't being maintained by anyone at wikipediaย :-( I'm soldiering on using citer but, since it only fixes one at a time, it is a labor intensive task and I'm getting a titch burned out. Hopefully they will get fixed soon and then we can zap the backlog. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 14:57, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969 this thread User talk:Zhaofeng Li/reFill#Help help help... has some interesting news. I don't know if the fact that refill2 is working on other wikis is promising or not but hope springs eternalย :-) MarnetteD|Talk 15:10, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yay. Refill is now up, so I can do a bit more. But Reflinks is still down . Onel5969 TT me 15:58, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969 this thread User talk:Zhaofeng Li/reFill#Help help help... has some interesting news. I don't know if the fact that refill2 is working on other wikis is promising or not but hope springs eternalย :-) MarnetteD|Talk 15:10, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
City pop
Did you know about a genre called City pop, M? It was a long time talking to you. Starkiryu64 (talk) 11:50, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Starkiryu64. It is nice to hear from you againย :-) I am not familiar with this genre though, as I read the article, I may have heard examples of it without being aware that they were specifically from this genre. I will search out some of the songs later today - being able to find music like this on the internet is a marvelous thing. Best wishes to you. MarnetteD|Talk 16:46, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
And it was made in Japan!!! Starkiryu64 (talk) 17:09, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
So how is city pop? Starkiryu64 (talk) 03:09, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Starkiryu64 it has been a busier day here than I had planned on. They are on my list of things to enjoy so please hang with me. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 03:44, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi again Starkiryu64. I am enjoying working my way through the music of several of the artists listed here List of city pop artists. I particularly like Toshiki Kadomatsu especially "Love Junky" This compilation let me get several songs at one go. The music took me right back to the 1980's and brought back some nice memories. Thank you for making me aware of this genre. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 16:57, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
You're welcome, Mย :-) Starkiryu64 (talk) 17:10, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
You should try a song named "56709", and Ai Oboete Imasu ka or Do you Remember Love. It's great. Starkiryu64 (talk) 18:02, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- I will. Thanks S. MarnetteD|Talk 19:36, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
you're welcome. Starkiryu64 (talk) 01:27, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
So, how it goes? Starkiryu64 (talk) 06:14, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- I like both songs S. For Ai Oboete Imasu ka do you prefer this version or this live performance? Thanks again. MarnetteD|Talk 15:43, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Both of these song are not the original version. I'll give you the original version. Starkiryu64 (talk) 15:52, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much S. That is wonderful! MarnetteD|Talk 15:58, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
you're welcome. I like of you to see. Starkiryu64 (talk) 16:48, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
So, how do you feel about city pop, M? To me, it was giving me a good vibe and a reminder about that summer is coming, I wish that I had a Walkman to hear the music around me. Starkiryu64 (talk) 00:30, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- I really like it S and I am grateful that you made me aware of it. Your description of the vibe it gave you is also wonderful and better than anything I could write. Thank you so very much. MarnetteD|Talk 02:36, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
You're welcome, M. Starkiryu64 (talk) 03:56, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Send this genre to everybody, M. The World is counting on you. Starkiryu64 (talk) 23:58, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello? Starkiryu64 (talk) 04:14, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- I have let some friends know who I think would be interested S. Cheers MarnetteD|Talk 04:49, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
You too. Starkiryu64 (talk) 05:22, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
So, How it turn out? Starkiryu64 (talk) 14:53, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'll let you know when I hear back from them S. MarnetteD|Talk 16:46, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Alright. Starkiryu64 (talk) 18:27, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
And now? Starkiryu64 (talk) 22:59, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Please be patient S. It may be a few days. They have busy lives and may not get back to me right away. MarnetteD|Talk 23:04, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hiya S. I wanted to let you know that two of my friends liked the genre and wanted me to pass on their thanks. One other friend wasn't as excited by the music but she isn't a fan of the 1980s in general. My thanks again for sharing this and I hope you have a nice Friday and a wonderful weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 01:34, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
You too, M and Happy Easter. Now I'm on Spring Break!! Starkiryu64 (talk) 03:29, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Yippee S. Have fun a stay safeย :-) MarnetteD|Talk 04:09, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Happy First Edit Day!
- Thank you CAPTAIN RAJU. Gosh this weirdest of years seems to have flown by. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 01:37, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Articles are having Bare URL's
First of all, Thank you for the good contribution of cleaning bare URLs.
Recently, I had marked a few articles with bare URL tags. Kindly recheck the below 6 articles.
- List of U.S. states and territories by incarceration and correctional supervision rate Please check reference no. 4 to 9
- United Nations Please check reference no. 215 to 218 & many more.
- List of specialized agencies of the United Nations Please check reference no. 7, 17, 19
- Member states of the United Nations Please check reference no. 65
- Secretary-General of the United Nations Please check reference no. 13, 15 & many more.
- List of G20 summits Please check reference no. 78, 79, 80, 81
Thank You once again! -Ninney (talk) 20:15, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Ninney. I am not sure what you are asking. The references you list are in cite templates. If you feel they are incorrect or need changing then that is a task you will have to take on yourself. All I am doing is using the tools available to move bare urls into cite templates. BTW two of the three tools that do that work are down and the third one can only do one reference at a time. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 22:55, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- They are NOT IN cite templates & hence I marked them with the tag which you removed saying rmv as there are no bare urls. If you want I will mark them again with Tag. Thank You! -Ninney (talk) 23:02, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ninney here is one of the ones that you list <ref>[http://www.theutenberg.se/pdf/the_holy_see_the_order_of_malta_and_international_law.pdf The Holy See, the Order of Malta and International Law], Bo J. Theutenberg, {{ISBN|91-974235-6-4}}</ref>. This one (and the others) meet the criteria at WP:CITE and fall under the classification of "manually formatted." They have the info needed to search in a web archive should they go dead. There are times when they will even have have more info then they will if formatted by refill or reflinks. If you want them in a cite template you will have to do that yourself. MarnetteD|Talk 23:08, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Okay! Thank You -Ninney (talk) 23:11, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi again Ninney. Just so you know what I am referring to see examples of refs in brackets given at Wikipedia:Citing sources#Links and ID numbers and Wikipedia:Citing sources#Linking to Google Books pages. In other words not everything has to be in a cite template to be properly used as references. Enjoy your weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 23:16, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Agreeย Thank you very much!- Ninney (talk) 23:22, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi again Ninney. Just so you know what I am referring to see examples of refs in brackets given at Wikipedia:Citing sources#Links and ID numbers and Wikipedia:Citing sources#Linking to Google Books pages. In other words not everything has to be in a cite template to be properly used as references. Enjoy your weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 23:16, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Okay! Thank You -Ninney (talk) 23:11, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ninney here is one of the ones that you list <ref>[http://www.theutenberg.se/pdf/the_holy_see_the_order_of_malta_and_international_law.pdf The Holy See, the Order of Malta and International Law], Bo J. Theutenberg, {{ISBN|91-974235-6-4}}</ref>. This one (and the others) meet the criteria at WP:CITE and fall under the classification of "manually formatted." They have the info needed to search in a web archive should they go dead. There are times when they will even have have more info then they will if formatted by refill or reflinks. If you want them in a cite template you will have to do that yourself. MarnetteD|Talk 23:08, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- They are NOT IN cite templates & hence I marked them with the tag which you removed saying rmv as there are no bare urls. If you want I will mark them again with Tag. Thank You! -Ninney (talk) 23:02, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Reflink
Just wondering if you saw the response at VPT that refill is down only on the English WP. RJFJR (talk) 03:42, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yep RJFJR. I think there is another country or two that it is working as well. That just makes the whole thing more frustrating. I am trying to think where we might make more people aware of the problem. Maybe a mention in the Signpost would get editors involved than the talk page thread or the VPT. They certainly need to explore fixing the current tools or making new ones if they want to prevent linkrot. Cheers and enjoy your week. MarnetteD|Talk 03:48, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
So, when that city pop happened, how about the film Blade Runner? Starkiryu64 (talk) 01:50, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- One of the all time great sci fi films Starkiryu64. I actually saw one of the original screenings mentioned here Blade Runner#Release in 1982. Lots of wonderful memories of some of the theaters I saw it at over the years. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 02:11, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
You too. Cheers. Let's talk about it tomorrow, 'Kay? Starkiryu64 (talk) 02:14, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- See ya then. MarnetteD|Talk 02:15, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
So, do you think about the music? Starkiryu64 (talk) 15:14, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Hey, M? Starkiryu64 (talk) 18:28, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Please be patient S. I'm not ignoring you. Vangelis music is excellent and really adds to the power of the film. Other soundtracks that are enhanced by his work include Chariots of Fire and The Bounty (1984 film). His song "L'Enfant", form the album Opera sauvage is used in The Year of Living Dangerously (film) and I particularly like that section of the film. MarnetteD|Talk 19:05, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
I'm sorry. It's pretty good that Vangelis make the end title and the blues. Starkiryu64 (talk) 19:50, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Absolutely Sย :-) MarnetteD|Talk 20:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
refill working again
refill just started working again. A little good news for the new month. Reflink still doesn't work for me. RJFJR (talk) 18:19, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- I see now that the fact it was working was posted at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). RJFJR (talk) 18:43, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks RJFJR. It started yesterday thankfully. Reflinks was gone for a year or more and then we got it back for what - four or five weeks? Since it makes formatting PDFs so much easier (as well as tagging many dead links) I would love to have it going again but I'm not holding out much hope. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 19:06, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Easter
Did you know about Easter? And how you know about it? Starkiryu64 (talk) 04:07, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Yes I know about it Starkiryu64. My parents were Lutheran and we attended church from when my sister and I were very young. I don't celebrate it the same way now but I do honor the spirit of renewal that is a part of the season. MarnetteD|Talk 05:13, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
Well, in my tradition (for myself), every Saturday nights, I tune in on ABC to watch The Ten Commandments. Starkiryu64 (talk) 17:33, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- A nice tradition to have S. Thanks for sharing. MarnetteD|Talk 19:46, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
wild garlic |
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- Happy Easter/Renewal! You may be interested in the TFA on Easter Sunday that played a role in my life! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:32, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- The garlic is lovely. Many thanks. MarnetteD|Talk 18:46, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! - On this day in 1742, He was despised was performed for the first time, and when I wrote it in 2012, I didn't only think of Jesus. Andreas Scholl sang that for us, - you are invited to a Baroque stroll. - The check out Olena Tokar and her charmes, by four women who composed! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:33, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for all of these links GA. The pic is beautiful. I note that one of Olena's signature roles is Rusalka. I've always though my beloved Santa Fe Opera was a perfect place for that opera. They finally schedule it and, just my luck, the pandemic cancels the entire season. Oh well the links you leave help make up for what I missed. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 21:45, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
- more memories on the Main page today, Psalm 115 thinking of Yoninah, Christa Ludwig and Milva, - voices that made the Earth a better place. Sad that the psalm hook didn't appear on Earth Day as planned, but better pictured and late than going unnoticedย ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:07, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for all of these links GA. The pic is beautiful. I note that one of Olena's signature roles is Rusalka. I've always though my beloved Santa Fe Opera was a perfect place for that opera. They finally schedule it and, just my luck, the pandemic cancels the entire season. Oh well the links you leave help make up for what I missed. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 21:45, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! - On this day in 1742, He was despised was performed for the first time, and when I wrote it in 2012, I didn't only think of Jesus. Andreas Scholl sang that for us, - you are invited to a Baroque stroll. - The check out Olena Tokar and her charmes, by four women who composed! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:33, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
- The garlic is lovely. Many thanks. MarnetteD|Talk 18:46, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Nate Morris article
Hello, MarnetteD, I'm a representative of Nate Morris, working to collaborate with the community to improve the encyclopedia's entry. I am looking for volunteers willing to help by weighing-in and implementing changes to the article, so I can stay hands-off and respectful of the rules in place for my COI. I stumbled upon your name as a recent editor to the page in September. As such, I wondered if you'd be interested to take a look at my open request at Talk:Nate Morris. Thanks for any consideration. All the best, MS rep 4 NMorris (talk) 11:03, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
Section blanking?
I have no idea. Please explain. --Oblio4 (talk) 03:42, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- As one example you removed a huge chunk of the article and the only edit summary you gave was "ce" MarnetteD|Talk 04:14, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- Please click that that ce ย โ and several others like it. --Oblio4 (talk) 05:57, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- That tells me virtually nothing. When you remove large chucks of an article it would be a good idea to explain in the edit summary why that has occurred. CE does not really cover it. MarnetteD|Talk 07:07, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Honouring the helpers
Victuallers (talk) 11:48, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you Victuallers. The hard creative work was done by Willthacheerleader18. I was happy to help with formatting the bare urls. I was fortunate enough to visit Scotland but it was many (many) years ago. I was glad to get to enjoy it again vicariously through the Men In Kilts series on Starz. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 17:11, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- I must look at that. I moved to Scotland 3 years ago to enjoy the countryside and to join fellow brexit resistors! Important to mention the people who "just" do some tidying. They add the quality to our creations. best Victuallers (talk) 17:19, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Of the many fond memories of my time there Victuallers I'll share one. I backpacked along the east shore of Loch Ness and stayed two nights at a cute little hotel in Foyers. I arrived on the day of a fishing derby and the pub was full of the locals. They bought the Yank who was on holiday several pints all of them deliciousย :-) Thanks again and cheers! MarnetteD|Talk 17:30, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- I must look at that. I moved to Scotland 3 years ago to enjoy the countryside and to join fellow brexit resistors! Important to mention the people who "just" do some tidying. They add the quality to our creations. best Victuallers (talk) 17:19, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Washington Post access
On White people you asked about my access to Washington Post - I just clicked on the link. I've got no subscription, but the intro page says that without subscription you can read a limited number of articles per month. I accepted their cookies, and since I visit them only every few weeks, I suppose that my access to the article was included in that limited number. Hope this helps. --Rsk6400 (talk) 12:18, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info [[User:|Rsk6400]] I did not read that so I will see if I can get there and format the ref. Regards. MarnetteD|Talk 20:04, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- oof messed up the ping Rsk6400 so maybe I'll do this one right. MarnetteD|Talk 20:05, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- Ah I see you've already taken care of things Good work and many thanks. MarnetteD|Talk 20:12, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
Point in revert-warring? ๐๐ค๐ฏ๐บ๐ช๐ค๐๐๐ท๐ฎ๐ฅ๐๐บ๐ด๐๐๐ฐ (๐๐ฎ๐ญ๐ ) 07:39, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- Removing trolling and WP:DENY. BTW reverting vandalism is not edit warring and I was simply following points 1, 2 and 3 at Wikipedia:Revert, block, ignore, Point in asking such a question? MarnetteD|Talk 08:23, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- "A variation of this method, BRI (block, revert, ignore), should be employed against edit-warring vandals." Not sure how much denying there is in immortalising trolls in a big chunk of the page history. ๐๐ค๐ฏ๐บ๐ช๐ค๐๐๐ท๐ฎ๐ฅ๐๐บ๐ด๐๐๐ฐ (๐๐ฎ๐ญ๐ ) 08:32, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- I have no idea what you are on about. Revert means revert and that is what I did. BTW the order is 1)Revert 2)Block and 3)Ignore, Furthermore it states "Revert the vandalism on the page, so it appears in its pre-vandalised state" and there is no wording regarding any limitation of the number of times that the reverting should occur. I followed the instructions for number two and three as well. I have done this for over sixteen years and will continue to do so in the future. MarnetteD|Talk 08:42, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- I have just quoted you the part of the page you are referring to, and it clearly states when this order may not be optimal. There might not be any limitation of the number of times that the reverting should occur, but the condition of "edit-warring vandals" already applies in such situations. ๐๐ค๐ฏ๐บ๐ช๐ค๐๐๐ท๐ฎ๐ฅ๐๐บ๐ด๐๐๐ฐ (๐๐ฎ๐ญ๐ ) 08:48, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- Since you clearly do not have a clue I will have to ask you to stop wasting my time and do not post here again. MarnetteD|Talk 08:51, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- Nice job on the WP:AGF BTW. MarnetteD|Talk 08:51, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- Since you clearly do not have a clue I will have to ask you to stop wasting my time and do not post here again. MarnetteD|Talk 08:51, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- I have just quoted you the part of the page you are referring to, and it clearly states when this order may not be optimal. There might not be any limitation of the number of times that the reverting should occur, but the condition of "edit-warring vandals" already applies in such situations. ๐๐ค๐ฏ๐บ๐ช๐ค๐๐๐ท๐ฎ๐ฅ๐๐บ๐ด๐๐๐ฐ (๐๐ฎ๐ญ๐ ) 08:48, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- I have no idea what you are on about. Revert means revert and that is what I did. BTW the order is 1)Revert 2)Block and 3)Ignore, Furthermore it states "Revert the vandalism on the page, so it appears in its pre-vandalised state" and there is no wording regarding any limitation of the number of times that the reverting should occur. I followed the instructions for number two and three as well. I have done this for over sixteen years and will continue to do so in the future. MarnetteD|Talk 08:42, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- "A variation of this method, BRI (block, revert, ignore), should be employed against edit-warring vandals." Not sure how much denying there is in immortalising trolls in a big chunk of the page history. ๐๐ค๐ฏ๐บ๐ช๐ค๐๐๐ท๐ฎ๐ฅ๐๐บ๐ด๐๐๐ฐ (๐๐ฎ๐ญ๐ ) 08:32, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Nate Speed
Is 174.18.45.201 Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Nate Speed? aeschyIus (talk) 03:48, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Most likely AeschyIus. I do know that whoever it is has been at this for several weeks. I've left several of the recent IPs at my AIV report. Thanks for your help. MarnetteD|Talk 03:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
non existent field?
I don't understand why you made this change. notable_works is a field in the infobox template. The change deprecated the refs. Bangabandhu (talk) 12:59, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Bangabandhu. That article showed up in the Category:Pages using infobox person with unknown parameters under the letter N which means either the "nationality" field or the "notable works" one was causing the problem. Removal got the page out of the cat. I am trying something else to see if a different fix will work. And after a lot of tinkering I tracked down that the problem was with the "name" field. I am learning the ins and outs of dealing with these fields as I go so I appreciate you bringing this page to my attention. Cheers and enjoy your weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 15:48, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
- If you find a page in such a cat, edit section 0 (assuming that's where the infobox is) and without making any changes, preview it. You'll get red error messages like Warning: Page using Template:Infobox person with unknown parameter "name ย ย ย ย ย " (this message is shown only in preview).so it's a parameter with the word
name
in it. This is not a param that is actually named|name=
, I can tell this because of the long gap between the wordname
and the following double quote. That gap contains non-breaking spaces, which the MediaWiki parser is assuming are part of the param name. The fix is to delete all spaces between the wordname
and the equals sign, then if you want to space it out again, use plain spaces. --Redrose64 ๐น (talk) 19:32, 23 April 2021 (UTC)- Thanks Redrose64. This will be a big help. MarnetteD|Talk 20:03, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
- If you find a page in such a cat, edit section 0 (assuming that's where the infobox is) and without making any changes, preview it. You'll get red error messages like