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Deletion

Primarily the reasons are that Wikipedia is not a dictionary. ++Arx Fortis (talk) 13:09, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Footlocker (luggage)

I have nominated Footlocker (luggage), an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Footlocker (luggage). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. — xDanielx ^T/_C\^R 09:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kingdom melodies

Hi. I highly appreciate your contribusions to the articles. But I do think that there will be agreement that those two articles should be merged. I think that the article about Kingdom songs should be shown more interest and maybe go through a few changes. Do you have more info about the history of the songs and which ones being the oldest, for example? Summer Song (talk) 22:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lost in the Desert

I'd like to know where to buy a copy of the DVD _Lost in the Desert_? jonathon (talk) 22:43, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for the URL.jonathon (talk) 18:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Costello

Thanks for adding a reference for the last line of the article. Without that it looks like speculation - I agree its probably true but it needed sourcing. Looks good now, though I have moved the sentence a little higher and formatted the ref to match the others in the article. Euryalus (talk) 23:44, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hair and build

Hello, hair and build may change over a very short period of time and do not contribute to the reader's overall understanding of the subject. However, if you feel that these facts are important enough to warrant inclusion, re-add the info. Kindest regards, AlphaEta 02:23, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notability of David Alexander Smith

The article David Alexander Smith has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article, which appeared to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the notability of the subject may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for musicians, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 13:30, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of published^[1] secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent,^[2] and independent of the subject.^[3]

If the depth of coverage is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be needed to prove notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability.^[4]
Primary sources may be used to support content in an article, but they do not contribute toward proving the notability of a subject.

You article contained nothing of the sort above. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 13:43, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References to above

^ What constitutes a "published work" is deliberately broad.
^ Sources that are pure derivatives of an original source can be used as references, but do not contribute toward establishing the notability of a subject. "Intellectual independence" requires not only that the content of sources be non-identical, but also that the entirety of content in a published work not be derived from (or based in) another work (partial derivations are acceptable). For example, a speech by a politician about a particular person contributes toward establishing the notability of that person, but multiple reproductions of the transcript of that speech by different news outlets do not. A biography written about a person contributes toward establishing his or her notability, but a summary of that biography lacking an original intellectual contribution does not.
^ Autobiography and self-promotion are not the routes to having an encyclopaedia article. The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself have actually considered the subject notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works that focus upon it. Thus, entries in biographical dictionaries that accept self-nominations (such as the Marquis Who's Who) do not prove notability.
^ Non-triviality is a measure of the depth of content of a published work, and how far removed that content is from a simple directory entry or a mention in passing that does not discuss the subject in detail. A credible 200-page independent biography of a person that covers that person's life in detail is non-trivial, whereas a birth certificate or a 1-line listing on an election ballot form is not. Database sources such as Notable Names Database, Internet Movie Database and Internet Adult Film Database are not considered credible since they are, like wikis, mass-edited with little oversight. Additionally, these databases have low, wide-sweeping generic standards of inclusion.

The sources you listed did not discuss the subject's notability; they only listed his works. This in itself is not an assertion of notability. There are plenty of lesser-known authors who've written lots of stuff, have lots of fans, but cannot have an article because the notability criteria has not been met. This isn't my own viewpoint; I am merely enforcing community consensus. I heartily welcome you to bring back the article with better references. Cheers and happy editing. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 14:08, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Again, the references must substantiate the subject's notability. Statements that reflect the extent of the impact of the subject on any notable element of society, notable awards won, and so forth.

Again, you are free to recreate the article with better references. You can also submit a deletion review request. Since consensus builds Wikipedia, meeting the criteria will virtually guarantee article permanence, in spite of any one editor's perceived prejudices for or against. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 14:54, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Crittendens outburst

Should be as far as WP:MOS is concerned much less spaced out and prominent in the article - and really should be in blockquote - ie smaller text etc - cheers - Satu Suro 01:46, 24 October 2008 (UTC) sincerest apologies - i seem to have buggered the format trying for small - i dunno but your use of blockquote didnt look right, and my use of small is even worse - hope we get it in the end. Satu Suro 01:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

History section begs for more detail otherwise the controversy section overshadows the importance of all the factors that developed RN over the decades Satu Suro 01:58, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of GeoCities.ws

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Over two weeks later, the article still does not indicate notability, so I have tagged it for speedy deletion again. This does not mean that the site will never be notable enough for a Wikipedia article, only that at this point in time, the notability criteria for websites do not seem to be met. --bonadea contributions talk 12:47, 28 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Trevor Chappell article

Just in case you don't know, discussion of Trevor's WP article is currently going on during his program - that's why there's so much activity. Probably not much you can do about it at present - but keep on eye out for any potentially serious problems if you like. Cheers, Afterwriting (talk) 17:29, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I understand that you may disagree with my input on the Trevor Chappell page and that's fine. However, when removing something because you believe it is a trivial statement - I would appreciate that you not use a pointless, trivial and redundant question back in your description. I quote, with the particular area bolded, "(Removed trivial statement (so what? - someone is sick quite often and someone else fills in for them)". I'm new to this, and learning as I go. I believe their would have been a more polite and appropriate way to deal with this correction. Thanks, Rowlex.

Proposed deletion of Graphire Music Press

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Unreferenced BLPs

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Not notable. I found only one source for borderline notability, and that's not enough. There's no valid merge target.

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The floor-plan in roomette cars

roomette: "... a diagram rather than a description..." Would you draw a floor plan on paper, then upload a photo ? Someone else could make an .svg.

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It seems that someone using the same IP address as you has received warnings regarding their editing behaviour.

This could happen because they are someone using the same router or computer as you. However, I can assure you these warnings are not applied to your registered account but to the IP address.

See WP:BLOCKIP for more details. If you are affected by any IP block it would often only be temporary.

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AussieWikiDan (talk) 18:03, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo. Thanks for your reply.

I don't understand it. No-one shares my computer - not sure what a router is; if it's in my computer, then no-one shares that either. I'm not quite sure what an IP address is - does sharing it effectively mean sharing the same computer? - or could it be something broader where several different people share an IP address - different people in the same district, for instance, or using the same Internet provider?

If there is someone else doing things that can possibly be attributed to me, that is something I find rather concerning. M.J.E. (talk) 07:06, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, WP:BLOCKIP is a good page to understand more about the process. Sometimes an IP address can be shared amongst larger groups than just a household. Wikipedia does limited blocks on IP addresses because it may affect innocent parties.

Hope that helps. You can also ask at the Wikipedia:Teahouse if you have any more questions.

Cheers, AussieWikiDan (talk) 09:28, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Australian Contemporary Music Ensemble moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Australian Contemporary Music Ensemble, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. John B123 (talk) 19:09, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo.

It is true I created and wrote this article; but I was doing it at the request of a friend who wanted this article put up and gave me the information to base it on.

I don't know why he asked me to do it instead of doing it himself, because he knows far more about the topic than I do. Perhaps, because he has connections with people who were associated with A.C.M.E. (Australian Contemporary Music Ensemble, a once-prominent chamber group performing recent music), he thought it would avoid conflict of interest for me to do it instead of him - I have no connection myself with the subject of the article.

Anyway, I told him the article had been removed and put into draft form because of insufficient sources, and that he had to provide more information and sources; but it is up to him to supply those, and he hasn't done so yet. If he is too slow on this and it has to be deleted altogether, so be it.M.J.E. (talk) 13:03, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Yes, I know. I actually started the article on behalf of someone else who wanted an article on the topic, and earlier I reminded them time was ticking by for this, and they needed to come up with references - but they didn't. I don't know enough about the topic to work on it myself without their input.

M.J.E. (talk) 02:45, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bravo

Hiya, MJE.

Just dropped by to say thank you for:

your ongoing, good, well-intended and well-worded editing
your consistent use of edit summaries
your readiness to collaborate with other editors, on their, your or articles' talk pages
your never having deleted any discussions from your own talk page

These are fine attributes; would that all editors followed suit :)

I guess you had thought of creating your own User page?

Plus that would give you a blue user name, & prejudiced editors like me assume blue suggests greater trustworthiness.

It's always pleasant to see what editors stand for :)

Cheers, Trafford09 (talk) 09:38, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this is a bit of a surprise; thank you for your kind words. I didn't know there was anyone who reviewed editors' work to assess its quality.

I never created a user page for myself because, to be honest, I don't know what I would put on it. I'm not sure I have much to say on the site beyond the edits I do, which are just any time I think I can add something to either an article or its discussion page which I think might improve the article.

I'm curious to know how having a user page might make me look more trustworthy to some editors. I would have thought one would judge someone's work on its own merits, not on what they choose to say about themselves.M.J.E. (talk) 10:56, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I usually only check a list of a user's contributions if I suspect poor editing, but I'm not sure what drew me to yours. I have no oversight rights or anything special, but I do like to correct spelling, grammar, fight vandalism and give tips on occasions.

So, why do some users create their own user page ... vanity, pride, to focus their efforts ... I don't know. But I've often felt the editing world is enhanced by attempts at user pages. One gains a sense of what an editor stands for, somehow.

My user page is poor cf many but, if I might be so bold, here's a reasonable selection of user pages, which you might (or indeed not!) care to browse if interested.

Anyway, just a passing thought. Happy editing. Trafford09 (talk) 16:25, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh - I forgot to address some of your points, so here goes. Having a user page arguably means that an editor goes the extra mile. Vandals, for instance may well eschew user pages. Hence the leaning towards trustworthiness for editors with user pages.

Absolutely, I agree one would judge someone's work on its own merits, not on what they choose to say about themselves. It's just first impressions.

Obviously, having a user page is a personal choice, and AFAIK not even a guideline.

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If there's a problem, it's with "disinterested" as an adjective, not with "disinterest" as a noun. Entry https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disinterested has a usage note, while https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disinterest has no usage note... AnonMoos (talk) 23:32, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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[note2-1] What constitutes a "published work" is deliberately broad.

[note3-2] Sources that are pure derivatives of an original source can be used as references, but do not contribute toward establishing the notability of a subject. "Intellectual independence" requires not only that the content of sources be non-identical, but also that the entirety of content in a published work not be derived from (or based in) another work (partial derivations are acceptable). For example, a speech by a politician about a particular person contributes toward establishing the notability of that person, but multiple reproductions of the transcript of that speech by different news outlets do not. A biography written about a person contributes toward establishing his or her notability, but a summary of that biography lacking an original intellectual contribution does not.

[note4-3] Autobiography and self-promotion are not the routes to having an encyclopaedia article. The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself have actually considered the subject notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works that focus upon it. Thus, entries in biographical dictionaries that accept self-nominations (such as the Marquis Who's Who) do not prove notability.

[note5-4] Non-triviality is a measure of the depth of content of a published work, and how far removed that content is from a simple directory entry or a mention in passing that does not discuss the subject in detail. A credible 200-page independent biography of a person that covers that person's life in detail is non-trivial, whereas a birth certificate or a 1-line listing on an election ballot form is not. Database sources such as Notable Names Database, Internet Movie Database and Internet Adult Film Database are not considered credible since they are, like wikis, mass-edited with little oversight. Additionally, these databases have low, wide-sweeping generic standards of inclusion.

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