User talk:John at Lancelotlinc

{{Request edit}} Please allow me to complete the information, then review the completed page and modify where necessary. I understand the issue of COI and will be objective as possible. I also want to complete pages for other people that I am professionally associated with and am using my own page as a learning experience.

Thank you for your pointers and help. I sincerely want to post objective material and support the intent of Wikipedia.

Speedy deletion of John S. Green

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If you would like an article about yourself (hence this quote: "I am every bit as notable as Charlie Jackson"), it should be written by a third party, per WP:COI. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drahcir (talk • contribs) 20:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Nims Associates, Inc.

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Proposed deletion of SatisFusion

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Not likely to meet WP:CORP — company disappeared in 2008 or so — now-defunct company bought by Warranty Corporation of America (WaCA), which was part of Asurion, which then merged with N.E.W. Customer Service Companies, Inc. Domain name and Peoria IL facility somehow ended up sold to SureSource, whoever that is, but SatisFusion web site is no longer up even as redirect.

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Orphaned non-free media (File:SatisFusion.jpg)

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Air France Flight 447

Hi. You created a large unsourced paragraph in which you added usourced conclusions such as:

The Captain was negligent in following this recommendation and flew directly into the storm cell, choosing to leave the cockpit for a nap just as the plane entered the hazardous area of the storm and without making proper use of the on-board weather radar

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Proposed deletion of Preponderant causal vector rate-of-change propagation

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Lancelotlinc

A tag has been placed on User:Lancelotlinc, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which articles can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

• It appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free Web hosting service. (See section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion.)

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November 2014

Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that your user subpage at User:Lancelotlinc may not be appropriate to be indexed by external search engines as presently written. Typically, this could be because it appears promotional, or contains material in development or archived that doesn't yet meet policies and guidelines. I have tagged this page as __NOINDEX__, which allows editing but minimizes the page's inclusion in search engine results.

If you believe that your userpage does not violate our guidelines, please leave a note here and we can discuss it. As an alternative, you may add {{db-userreq}} to the top of the page in question and an administrator will delete it, you can change the page so that it more clearly meets Wikipedia guidelines, or you can edit it as normal and ignore the tag completely (it will not affect editing).

However, please do not remove the tag without discussion.

Hi Lancelotlinc, you're not meant to remove speedy delete - but instead click the contest button. Your userpage still appears similar to an article IMHO (see WP:FAKEARTICLE), so instead of CSDing it again, fancy changing it? regards

Widefox; talk 19:03, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Lancelotlinc, see WP:FAKEARTICLE, WP:UPNOT / WP:USERBIO. Care to answer? Widefox; talk 23:24, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Widefox, thanks for your pointers. I would be glad to change the User page to better conform to your view of what it should look like. If you'd care to be specific about what you want me to change by calling out inappropriate sentence, I will modify or remove that sentence. Thanks Lance

Sure - stop it looking anything like an article in any way, cut out the CV (or down to 1 line). This is the guideline not my view, and not removing WP:CSD is policy, which is WP:DISRUPTION due to your WP:COI. Not only is WP not a host in user space as a substitute for the autobiography in article space that was deleted, how do you think I feel about being asked to be specific about helping you make it survive as best possible? I'm hoping my tone gives that away, but if you want my preferred version, delete it before someone else does. Widefox; talk 00:34, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Lancelotlinc

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A tag has been placed on User:Lancelotlinc, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which articles can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

• It appears to be a clear copyright infringement of http://www.linkedin.com/in/lancelotlinc. (See section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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• It appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free Web hosting service. (See section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion.)

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Widefox; talk 11:00, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

November 2014

Please do not remove speedy deletion notices from pages you have created yourself, as you did with User:Lancelotlinc. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion, which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. I did explain that you're not allowed to remove either the userpage template or the CSD - see the links Widefox; talk 11:15, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on your user page, User:Lancelotlinc, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be blatant advertising which only promotes or publicises a company, product, group or service, and which is a violation of our policies regarding acceptable use of user pages; user pages are intended for active editors of Wikipedia to communicate with one another as part of the process of creating encyclopedic content, and should not be mistaken for free webhosting resources. Please read the guidelines on spam, the guidelines on user pages, and, especially, our FAQ for Organizations.

If you can indicate why the page is not blatant advertising, contest the deletion by clicking on the button that looks like this: Click here to contest this speedy deletion which appears inside of the speedy deletion ({{db-...}}) tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy deletion candidate). Doing so will take you to your user talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also edit this page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would help make it encyclopedic. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Widefox; talk 11:24, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Your username

Welcome to Wikipedia. I saw that you edited or created John S. Green, and I noticed that your username, "Lancelotlinc", may not comply with our username policy. Please note that you may not use a username that represents the name of a company, group, organization, product, or website. Examples of usernames that are not allowed include "XYZ Company", "MyWidgetsUSA.com", and "Trammel Museum of Art". However, you are invited to use a username that contains such a name if it identifies you personally, such as "Mark at WidgetsUSA", "Jack Smith at the XY Foundation", and "WidgetFan87".

Please also note that Wikipedia does not allow accounts to be shared by multiple people, and that you may not advocate for or promote any company, group, organization, product, or website, regardless of your username. Moreover, I recommend that you read our conflict of interest guideline. If you are a single individual and are willing to contribute to Wikipedia in an unbiased manner, please create a new account or request a username change that complies with our username policy. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. http://lancelotlinc.com/ User:Lancelotlinc (and previous COI / autobiog on John S. Green ) Widefox; talk 11:25, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

November 2014

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on User:Lancelotlinc. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.
see WP:UP#NOTSUITED WP:FAKEARTICLE WP:UP#OWN WP:REMOVED Widefox; talk 11:43, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove a speedy deletion notice from a page you have created yourself, as you did at User:Lancelotlinc. Per WP:REMOVED . Stop now, or this edit warring will be reported. Note that as you cannot remove the CSD from a page you've created, I can restore it without being classed as edit warring myself, but WP:3RR does still apply to you. STOP now, or you will be blocked. Please just let an admin decide. Widefox; talk 12:01, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Widefox - Whats your beef with me ? Why do you have such an intense interest on my page ? Leave me and my page alone. I have adopted your editorial suggestions. If you have further constructive suggestions, I'm open to hearing them.

Hi Lancelotlinc, I'm glad you're talking with me now. Good. If you have a moment you may want to read the links I've put here. This is, in fact, nothing personal but just tidying up per guideline and policy - we all have latitude in editing our userpages but creating a biography of a living person in the style of an article is not one. Yes, your account has been here a while, but that still doesn't mean you own the userpage, or others can't question it being OK. You are never allowed to remove the speedy delete from anything you create, including userpages, OK. Hope that helps. Is there a reason why any of us should have an exception to those? Widefox; talk 12:32, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Widefox - I will conform to the policy. Your harassment is egregious. What's your beef with me ? What did I do that you find so intently satisfying to disrupt my activity? You made suggestions on how I should change my user page. I accepted those and made changes. What about the current page do you not like? What must I remove in order for you to get rid of the speedy deletion banner ? So users of Wikipedia are not allowed to have personal websiteS? Why does having a personal website offend you? My personal website does not sell any product or service. Its my website, I can post what I want there. I do sleep sometimes and may not take immediate action when slumbering. Lancelotlinc; talk 12:36, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Maybe it would be help to establish some common understanding...copvio content, stale drafts (especially BLPs), and a fake article are applicable for speedy deletion. Do you agree? Are editors allowed to remove the speedy delete from pages they create? Did you do that a couple days ago [1] ? and then repeat? Was it also speedied 6 years ago? [2] and that incorrectly removed? [3] Are other editors allowed to speedy someone else's userpage, or tag fake articles with noindex? The links above have help for all those. Instead of an ad hominem reply to me, my edits, while possibly coming out of the blue for a userpage that's been there a while, are all allowed, and I've tried to engage with you about the issues after the first speedy was removed. You've also created articles on yourself and companies, combined with a username that is your website. Are usernames that are websites allowed? Balancing that, you've been here a while so I would expect an admin will be reluctant to force you to change your username. You may want to reflect on WP:AUTOBIO. To answer your question, you can contest the speedy if you wish by following those instructions. Just FYI, I personally found it interesting reading what you put, but I did misinterpret it and I incorrectly marked an Amazon article with COI. I've undone my error. Sorry you feel this way, regards Widefox; talk 18:21, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

First off, the John S. Green page was a separate page not related to my user page Lancelotlinc. Back in 2002, when I joined Wikipedia with the user id of Lancelotlinc, twelve years ago, I was Vice President of Engineering of a company called SatisFusion. At that time, the Wikipedia rules were different. Our marketing director created a company page called SatisFusion, and all the C*Os were added bios that linked to that company. In 2008, Wikipedia's rules matured and some of the older articles were declared obsolete. So at one time, the pages were acceptable to Wikipedia, and as the platform matured, those items became not acceptable. Generally, I'm a fairly easy going guy. If you recommend something constructive to me, I generally will favorably consider it. So rather than spam my User page with speedy delete banners, why not be more collaborative and constructive to work with me to migrate my User page Lancelotlinc to a state that you seem to view as more acceptable. I will work with you and give favor to your recommendations. I have demonstrated this to be true several times this week. I do not create fake articles. Articles I create had valid references. All of my edits are sourced properly. Some references may lag behind a bit, but for the most part, they are good-faith edits. As for your copyright infringement allegation, you are way off base. My text was my text, written by me and posted to my Linkedin profile. Copyright-wise, I can post my text to any place I want, since I am the author. I grant myself the license to do so. Therefore, it is not a copyright violation. I have a personal website. I do not promote or sell any services or products from that website. My Wikipedia user id Lancelotlinc was in use 12 years ago before I published the website three years ago. No, I do not think this is a violation of Wikipedia policy. I think you need to take a sedative or stop smoking/drinking caffeine. Get off my case. If you keep harassing me, I will make an issue of it. Lancelotlinc:talk 18:22, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

For the copyright issue see WP:IOWN "If you submitted work to Wikipedia which you had previously published and your submission was marked as a potential infringement of copyright, then stating on the article's talk page that you are the copyright holder of the work (or acting as his or her agent), while not likely to prevent deletion, helps." (emphasis my own), WP:DCP helps what you have to do to donate copyrighted materials. So, no, I'm not "way off base", but this is somewhat academic - userpages aren't allowed to be resumes, so you can donate if you wish but you may want to think about that end result.

I was attempting to establish if you acknowledge the userpage status - guidelines and policy, but you didn't directly address the points. It's a stale draft of an autobiography, right? I've provided links for you to see what is allowed, and clearly we are not going to agree, but unfounded accusations of harassment change nothing, as I'm editing by those. thank you. Widefox; talk 20:10, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Ok, to bring this to closure and satisfactory resolution to both of us, I have removed all but the bare minimum information on my User page. I agree to conform my User page to all Wikipedia policies. I used a template from a well-known Wikipedian as the basis for the current page. If you are satisfied that the page is acceptable, please remove the speedy-delete banner. If you are not satisfied, please explicitly call out what you want changed, and I will change it. Lancelotlinc:talk 20:16, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... see discussion above. The allegations made by Wildefox are false. His harassment of my contributions are disruptive. My pages conform to Wikipedia policy for the most part, and if someone were to point-out some specific thing that needs to be updated, amended or changed, I will do so as soon as I am able. Wildefox seems to think that someone should not sleep if there is work to be done, but I do need to sleep sometime and occasionally not able to immediately make a correction. --Lancelotlinc (talk) 18:42, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

See above - WP:FAKEARTICLE, copyvio (OK now), resume, stale draft, autobiography. Sure the editor doesn't like having this userpage conform to the guideline, and they've been here a while, but that doesn't mean fixing it is harassment, - a simple case of misjudgement due to WP:COI. Widefox; talk 20:17, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Mr Green, as reviewing administrator I agree that your user page is now acceptable, and I have declined the speedy-deletion nomination. I would suggest one further change: in the opening, instead of "John S. Green is an American businessman specializing in M&A integration of technology firms. John defined... ", write "I am John S. Green, an American businessman specializing in M&A integration of technology firms. I defined... ", removing the last flavour of WP:FAKEARTICLE.

Your username, I am afraid, is a problem. It is settled policy, recently reviewed and reaffirmed, that Wikipedia accounts must be for single individuals only, and that usernames may not be the names of groups or organizations - see WP:CORPNAME and WP:ISU. Please request a change of username by going to WP:Changing username. Read to the bottom of that page, click "Simple" and follow the instructions. Your username may be related to your real name, or not, as you choose (see WP:REALNAME for some considerations, but you have already declared it on your user page). A name of the form "John at Lancelotlinc" would be quite acceptable.

In case you have not seen it already, the Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide offers useful guidance about editing in any area where you have an involvement. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:20, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

PS: I have removed the categories from your user page, which were not appropriate there - see WP:USERNOCAT. JohnCD (talk) 21:31, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks JohnCD. I put in the name change request. Lancelotlinc (talk) 22:16, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks both of you, sorry for all the fuss Lancelotlinc, regards Widefox; talk 22:28, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello. I have removed the UAA report. I appreciate that a rename has been performed. John, I'll let you into a secret, according to written policy, this name could still be considered promotional and subject to a block. But everyone knows the username policy has always been problematic. I believe the policy also allows your username to be overlooked if you're scrupulous about any COI. The appropriate venues for escalation, should anyone want to do that, are the talk pages of the relevant actors, WP:RFCN, and WP:AN/ANI. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 06:20, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

March 2015

Hello, I'm Petrb. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —the one you made with this edit to Amazon Echo— because it didn’t appear constructive to me. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Petrb (talk) 13:17, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Please justify why you think inquiry of Amazon Echo about commute traffic congestion is not relevant. (talk) 13:25, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Patricia Driscoll (business executive)

Hey, just a head's up- you may need to take this one to AfD since the whole thing is more than a little complicated to say the least. I'm expecting the PROD to be contested by someone. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:55, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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