User talk:Kprideboi/Archive 1

Welcome

Hello Kprideboi, welcome to wikipedia. I hope you are here to stay and contribute. I saw your article on emperor Chi-whoo. I wish you will expand it into an even better form.

However I saw your user page. The language you used about chinese and japs seemed very obscene to me. We are here make wikipedia even better and not to bite each others. If you can write something useful, others will appreciate it themselves. There is no need to use slangs. Remember your user page is also accessible to everybody else and such language will obviously hurt them. So check it kindly.

These are some useful links.

Once again, welcome.

--Iball 20:28, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to meet you too

It was really nice to see that you have changed your page. Yes I am from India and interested in railways. If you need any help you can message me.

Have a nice day.

--Iball 10:38, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to meet you

You did edit the history of Korean such as 고구려 고조선 삼조선 I hope you will edit more stuffs in your ways.... Thanks... 제가 "애플바이"인지 뭔지땜에 무지 고생했습니다. ^^ 반가워요. 쓰다보니 우리말로쓰다 영어로쓰다 했네요 ㅋㅋ --Breathejustice 03:56, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Korea

South Korea needs more people like you. I hope you can help me destroy that horseshit China and Japan are throwing at us. Hope you can do something for us. Oyo321 01:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

그냥 인사차

요즘은 활동 안하시나요?--Hairwizard91 12:29, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

안녕하세요, 인사를 여기저기하니까 저도 인사드릴게요. Good friend100 19:53, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

대한민국 만세!

한국의 힘을 보여주자고! Oyo321 14:17, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

쪽발이 짱께 쇄끼들을 한방에~뻥!!

저 엔엘류좀 어찌 해봅시다.

Nlu라는놈 미치겠는데 어찌 못할까요? 고구려 마던팔러틱스도 지웠네요 이상한쉑이야. 비스비스라는 놈은 거기에 동조를 합니다. 이쉑기 한국놈같은데 ㅠ.ㅠ 저쉑 때려잡을수도없고.

Hanja

Your change to the page Hanja was determined to be unhelpful, and has been reverted. Please use the sandbox for any tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. Thanks. --Voidvector 23:34, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

its obvioius, he is ashamed of the hanja article becasue it meant korea copied chinese writing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.241.53 (talk) 06:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for visiting

I could understand your romanized Korean saying... hehe. 누구 위키 잘하는분이 관리자좀 됐음 좋겠는데. 저 엔엘류라는놈 요즘은 그래두 좀 조용하더만 ㅋㅋ 언제또 발광할지모릅니다. ^^ 지금 제가 편집하고있는게 있는데 좀 아는거 있으면 도와주세요.

Je state 이정기의 제나라고요...
Nangnang nation낙랑국입니다. 낙랑군과는 다른거라고 하더군요.
Gojoseon#Theories_of_Gojoseon.27s_Territory고조선강역에 대한건데 아는게 없어서 별로 못썼습니다.
그밖에도 Gija기자, Gija Joseon기자조선, Wiman위만, Wiman Joseon위만조선 등등... 나중에 한사군도 좀 공부해서 편집해야할텐데... 역부족이군요.
Baedal배달국은 헌원과 치우와의 전쟁에 대해서 좀더 넣어야할것 같은데... 좀 아시는거 있으면 부탁합니다. ^^ 너무 많은것을 요구했나요 ㅋㅋ
Baekje백제의 요서 산동반도 진출은 discussion에 올려놨어요. 님도 좀 토의좀 ㅋㅋ
Jurchen아 그리고 금나라 시조가 고려사람이라는걸 Jurchen의 토의에 달아놨는데 반박하는 사람이 별로 없고 님도 참여좀해주세요.
Samjoseon신채호샘의 조선상고사에나오는 전삼한(2333BCE-239BCE) 후삼한(239BCE-?)도 하려고하는데... 제가 아는게 없어서리...

넘 많다 ㅋㅋ
반갑습니다.--Hairwizard91 03:56, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Goguryeo rulers

Hi,

I can understand your point, and respect your motivation. However, I think that we need to be careful to distinguish posthumous titles, particularly those granted long after death, from reigning titles. I would recommend perhaps creating a "posthumous name" or "legacy" section, or at least putting this information in a subsequent paragraph.

In general, per Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Verifiability, we do strive to follow the existing scholarly consensus, which appears to be that these figures generally reigned as kings rather than emperors. At least that's how I understand it. Also, I think many would find the translation of 태왕 as "emperor" rather than "exalted king" problematic, but that can perhaps be dealt with (and already is, briefly) in the List of Korean monarchs article.

Sources:

Byeon Tae-seop (변태섭) (1999). 韓國史通論 (Hanguksa tongnon) (Outline of Korean history), 4th ed. ISBN 89-445-9101-6. ... goes into some depth on Goguryeo political structure (see esp. p. 96ff), but refers to the rulers solely as 왕.
Nahm, Andrew C. (1996). Korea: A history of the Korean people (2nd ed.). Seoul: Hollym. ISBN 1-56591-070-2. ... refers to Gwanggaeto and the others simply as "king" (p. 30).
Lee, Ki-baek (tr. E.W. Wagner and E.J. Shultz) (1984). A new history of Korea. Seoul: Ilchokak. ... while noting Gwanggaeto's achievements and use of an era name (p. 38), still refers to him as "King Kwanggaet'o"; treats the other Goguryeo rulers in the same way.

Those are just from the books that are on my desk right now, but I believe a deeper search of the literature would show the same practice. The use of king/왕 is also followed in various print and online encyclopedias. It seems clear from this that the consensus among Korean historians is that the Goguryeo rulers were kings, rather than emperors. Whether that consensus is correct, I can't say; but per WP:NOR Wikipedia seeks only to transmit the scholarship of others.

Again, I think that information about posthumous titles can be included in the article, but only as information; the name actually used in the article should follow the established scholarly practice.

I'm not Korean, but often wish I was, as it would make my life here in Korea much less surreal. Although there's nothing wrong with surreality...:-) Cheers, -- Visviva 03:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reading more carefully

You need to read other people's comments more carefully man. ABCBBCKBS was the one that said all that BS about Korea, not me. I came in trying to stop him, and now you're attacking me. What're you trying to do? Calm down, please. -- ran (talk) 01:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For the Goguryeo section, I was addressing Hairwizard91, because he inserted a sentence saying that Goguryeo never paid tribute to anyone. As for ABCBBCKBS, I don't know who he is beyond his username. -- ran (talk) 23:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nangnang nation

시간나면 nangnang nation에 대해서 토의좀해요. 지금 낙랑국에 대한 페이지가 없어지게 생겼습니다[[1]].

저도 nangnang nation에 대해서 알아보고있는데, 중국애들이 막 Lelang commandery 로 옴기자고 있잖아. Good friend100 12:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Hey! Im Korean too nice to meet you :) I have been focusing on Korean Science and tech and also Korean independence movement articles if I can find more infomation I might help you with those 3 articles you want improved. until next time :)

User:Easternknight

hi

Hi I was just browsing wikipedia and I happened to of stumbled upon your userpage. As a fellow Korean and a fellow Christian myself, I just wanted to ask you something out of curiosity, you have that whole "Korean ultranationalist" front going about yourself, and I was wondering do you take the Korean myths ie. the myth about Tangun seriously as historical fact? Yeah, if you do, that would be totally incompatible with Christianity since those are shamanist beliefs. Another thing kid, and I'm guessing you're at most a teenager just judging by your userpage, you might want to cool down with the whole "yo yo dont mess wit korea foo, all about korean supremacy foo" front, because kid you're on Wikipedia and most of the people here aren't teenagers here, plus some people might take it the wrong way. Also you might be doing all of us Koreans more harm than good with this whole "yeah it's all about Korea foo!" front. I mean it's cool and everything to be into Korean culture and history, but you might want to think at how you're going about this, just a little food for thought, believe me, it'll make more sense to you when you're in college (like me). well nice talking to you, Sung.

Qin Shi Huang

Thanks for your contribution to Qin Shi Huang.

Can you provide a reliable source for the assertion you made about the emperor's motive for the book burning?
Also, can you provide background on the term "Dongyi kind"? A link to the Dongyi article (in the form [[Dongyi]])might be sufficient.

-- Rob C (Alarob) 21:07, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

dude alarob its obvioius since this user is korean, he is claiming dongyi dominated china because dongyi includes korean, so dont trust anything he says —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.241.53 (talk) 06:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Taejo of Goryeo

I reverted your edits to Taejo of Goryeo because they broke a lot of Wikilinks and special characters. It looks like you might have tried pasting text from a regular browser window into the edit box. But I think the contents of your edit were good. If you don't mind, please go over it again, and just be sure the links and Ŏ's look right at the end. --Reuben 22:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

도와주시오!

저 더러운 청나라놈들이 우리 대고구려의 역사를 더럽히고 잇소... 제발 좀 도와주시오!!! If my Korean is hard to read, too bad. I taught myself how to read and write korean. HELP!!!! let's overwhelm those chinese bastards with evidence!!! Let's jack up their hood!!! you are milyang baksi? whats your pa? My cousin is a milyang baksi. I'm a kimhae kimsi samhyun pa. 저 오랑캐 중국놈들에게 한번 잘 싸워 보 자!!!!! Odst 18:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

reply

I dont watch 사극. I read comic books...sageuk are inaccurate and boring... except for maybe yi sun shin... which i watched... 겨우 8학년 밖게 안됐써 ( I know, the spelling's rusty) Never give up!! I'll die fighting those barbarian scum!!! Lets create a website dedicated to that purpose...Odst 04:59, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

짱깨들이랑 싸우시나여??

만약 그렇다면 저도 좀 도와주세요... 참고로 Nlu 이 놈은 저 한테만 시비거는게 아니였군요... 짱나는 짱깨시키...

제가 영어를 완벽하게 못해서 그러는데 혹시나 시간이 있으시다면 영어번역 좀 해주시면 안될까요? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Korea history (talk • contribs) 12:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

전 지금 저 오랑캐 놈들과 싸우고있어요, 고구려가 자기네 역사? 자존심도없어? Good friend100 14:10, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

근데 Keizhen 이란 놈과 Mel Etitis라는 놈이 자꾸 당나라가 만주랑 한반도를 다 먹었다고 하면서, 계속 제가 만든 수정지도를 올리면 경고를 하겠다느니 하면서 시비를 거네요... 저 좀 도와주세요...

Korea history (talk) 14:28, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

그런대요...똥은 드러워서 피하는거죠, 무서워서 피하는게 아니잖아요 :) 짱깨들그냥 무시해요. Good friend100 22:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

엔앨류랑 Assault11, 이 두놈이 드디어 최악의 행동을 했군요... 이 두놈이 고구려에 중국이름을 넣더니 토론이 필요하다며 편집을 막아버렸네요... (물론 발해까지도요...) 정말 저 놈들 어떻게 해야할까요?? 미치겠네요... 물론 토론이 필요하다면 얼마든지 중국놈들 입장을 반박할 수 있습니다. 근데 문제는 제가 영어실력이 초급이라서, 길게 반박할 수가 없고 짧은 글도 문법에 어긋날 때가 많다는 겁니다. 혹시 괜찮으시다면 반박글 좀 번역해주세요... 정말 감사하겠습니다.(이 분 뿐 아니라 다른 분이시라도요...)

Korea history (talk) 04:29, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

인사

안녕하세요, 네이버 지식 고수인이기도 하고 위키백과 초보인인 윤일하 입니다. Odst님을 아는 사이인것같아서, 그냥 같은 한국인 이니까 인사를 드리는겁니다. (제 한국말이 좀 서툴어서. 제가 미국에 너무 오래 살았나봐요). 아참 그리고 하나 부탁이 좀 있는데, 독도에 대해서 아는 정보가 더 있으시면 좀 알려주세요. 그리고 오디에스트님이 좀 말을 함부로 하는데 사실은 좋은 사람입니다.

그럼, 감사합니다.

P.S. 그리고 사극을 보신다고 하셨죠? 황진이도 당현이 보셨죠? 그럼 다른 드라마도 보시나요? 궁이나 궁S 같은거요. 아니면 풀하우스나 봄의 왈츠 같은것들.

Marci trés trés beaucoup, monsieur! Je suis un coréen qui habite dans États-Unis (americà). Younilha 18:33, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

아. 예. 고생이 많았죠. 하지만 저는 인제 새롭게 시작했습니다. Orthodoxy가 저의 새로운 유저폐이지지요. 저는 인제 국제위키백과인입니다. 저의 목적은 모든 나라의 위키백과를 통일하는 것입니다. 사실 위키백과라는 이름만 같지, 실제로, 진짜로 같은것은 아닙니다. 그래서 저의 목적은 이것을 바꾸는 일입니다. 인제부터 차근차근 하나하나씩 모근 나라의 위키백과를 통일하는것입니다. 예를 든다면, 만약에 프랑스 위키백과에 있는 독도문서가 미국 위키백과보다 더 짫으면 독도문서를 영어에서 프랑스어로 통역한후 프랑스위키백과에 독도문서를 더 좋게(그리고 길게) 하는 것입니다. 물론, 저는 모든나라의 언어를 못합니다. 한 3가지 언어밖(?)에 못합니다. 그래서 저의 다른 목적은 더 많은사람들을 국제위키백과인협회에 참여하게 하는것입니다. 님, 국제위키백과협회에 참여해주시지옵소서. 같이 한 나라들 낄(?)이만 지식을 나누지 말고 전세계와 함께 나누시지옵소서. (님이 저보다 한국말을 더 잘하니까 몇가지의 문서를 영어 위키백과에서 한국위키백과로 옮겨주시지옵소서). 그럼 국제위키백과인이 되고 싶은 생각이 있이시면 저의 디스커션폐이지에 알려주세요. 그럼, 많은 감사드립니다.Orthodoxy 23:37, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

잘 해봅시다

님...진실로 나라를 사랑한다면 육군사관학교로 합격 받으세요. 육사에서 만나 큰 뜻을 이룹시다. 님...꼭 육사를 생각 해보세요. 저도...육사를 드러가기를 최선을 다 해보겠습니다. Oyo321 03:26, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!

Hey, do you want to join WP:KO? GL HF! (Wikimachine 23:27, 18 March 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Goguyeo

I am a Chinese from the Republif of China (Taiwan) For my history book, it says that Goguyeo was a Korean kingdom seperated from the Tang Dynasty. No one can change that, I am for sure. But think about Korea and what the Korean government did recently. Claiming the Chinese inventions to theirs--such as paper, Chinese medicine, and Confucianism... What is the point? Doesnt that makes Korea as bad as China?

賓 hankpin 23:11 (Pacific) 6/13/07

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I apologize, If I hurt your feelings...I'd like some information that supports "former baekje"... Odst 23:46, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's because of people like you that Koreans are considered ambitious and greedy. Pride of Korea? Bullshit! pride? is that all it's for?? If you live for pride, then you are not a true Korean noble, rather, you are not a true Korean. I swear, if you pervert another article, I will never forgive you. Odst 00:19, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wutae

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!!

I apologize for my rude behavior yesterday. please forgive me.

Now then, we must get down to business. I would like some evidence, regarding the Biryu Baekje article, if you have any. If not, I will nominate it for deletion.

Also, Wutae will be deleted. His existence has no place in history, rather only in fiction. If you believe me to be wrong, present me with the proper evidence. Odst 00:53, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

good job!!!

		The Original Barnstar
		I think you are doing a wonderful job with the articles that you mentioned. All of this stuff fascinates me and it relieves me to see the careful way in which you word content. I wish I could be more helpful with the suitable references, but my expertise is more in the archaeology-anthropology-history of science line. You know what? I think that, even more important than whether of not the Hwandan Gogi is a fake or if this or that historical actor was real or not, it is much more important to let readers know about this stuff so that they can make the own decision. The articles that you mentioned are strictly mythology and/or disputed history, but it is still interesting and notable in wikispeak. Mythology is a highly respectable discipline -- look at the place of Greek mythology in Western thought, culture, and philosophy. Both mythology and history provide a deep deep base for our cultures and deserve equal respect and attention at Wikipedia. I pricked up my ears in the Fall of 2006 when several editors worried about the NPOV of the Hwandan Gogi article -- but I think that attitude is caused by trollish behaviour and loss of good faith -- some of the editors who started the articles were pretty disruptive or had that reputation. That article in particular looks better these days. Sin Chae-ho Seonsaengnim gets a bad rap and I can't understand why! We should look at the context of Sin Chae-ho's writings and thoughts -- he was understandably worried about the future of Korean history under the brutal Japanese imperialists and did his best under the difficult circumstances. I'm glad that it is you who is one of the main editors at Korean mythology and early history articles. I'm here to try and help in giving all-things-Korean a higher profile and I am happy to see like-minded people. 수고하이소!^^ Mumun 無文 17:42, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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great idea. Just don't come up with those stupid names that are never heard of. I mean, seriously, Is it really quite necessary to call Go Anseung's revival movement as Goguryeo-guk? That was never mentioned in any history book.

It's true, that they might have called themselves Goguryeo, but it sounds just simply pathetic to name a main article "Goguryeo country". The article should renamed to revival movements. Nevertheless, your article lacked any proper evidence. Only traditional print sources, or something based on print sources should be used as actual evidence. I did some verification of you sources on the web, and some details lacked the proper citations.

History is relentless; you must keep up with its flow. I feel like I am talking to someone younger than me, though I doubt that I am. Learn how to read hanja. It will make your prospective broader. Odst 17:43, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds great, Bodeok and the preceding revival movement should be All incorporated into the revival movements page. I am going to be freshman this september. you better start learning your basic 1000 hanja NOW, or else you won't ever have time to do so later. Odst 01:49, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

alright, go ahead with the new articles right away. I'll leave Goguryeo-guk as it is until you create the new article, just in case you need the contents of the text. Do you have access to any Korean history text? If you live somewhere where there aren't much, I can help with research, cause I live near LA. Odst 23:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

yeah, I'd do some background checks on those websites if were you. the main sources would primarily be Samgukyusa, samguksagi, baekje bon-gi,Goguryeo bon-gi, and so forth. Can you do some verification on Wutae, or seoson? because there is no mention of him in any of the traditional text I have. I can send you a copy of Samgukyusa and samguksagi, if you'd like. I have hangul translations, so it will be easy to read. those are my primary sources along with the gwanggeto stele.

It would also be great If you can focus some of your efforts on modern Korean history. I am conducting research on some modern topics these days, but I cannot contribute that much because im in JROTC training right now. I only have a few hours a day during break to contribute, or conduct any sort of research. Odst 02:01, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jin and Qing Dynasty

Hi, Kprideboi. I also Milyang Pak clan. (혹시 어느 파벌이신지... 저는 청제공파인데...)

Jin and Qing Dynasty to description below it is difficult in Korea history. Why cotton are they are because being widely recognized in China history. (번역기랑 저의 약한 영어 실력으로 써봤는데 맞는 영어인지는 모르겠습니다.)

금과 청왕조는 한국사라고 하기 힘듭니다. 왜냐면 두 왕조들은 이미 중국사로 널리 인식되어 있고, 현재 한국과는 연관성이 거의 없기 때문입니다.

그리고 제 생각에 List of monarchs of Korea에서 아직 학계에서 공식적이지 않은 역대 제왕들은 List of legendary monarchs of Korea로 옮기고 그 부분을 지우는게 어떨까 합니다만 님의 생각은 어떠신지요... --Korea history 01:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i see you are making false claims on how jin and qing are korean, if they are korean, why did qing attacks korea, and force korean king to erect a humiliating stelae to honor him..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.241.53 (talk) 06:09, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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I would suggest writing it in the correct format, as other Korean articles, such as infoboxes, Hanja translation, etc. I would do it myself, but I am only able to do certain things, due to my time constraints. Odst 23:29, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

crazy. SAT season. oooh, life can be miserable when yur Korean. Odst 00:55, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Goguryeo revival movements

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i dare you

i see you have been hiding in your hidey whole claiming chinese are crap. i dare you to actually come out with evidence to your false claims publicly.... i have proof to rebutt every single one of your arguments, you claim qing is korean, oh yeah you liar, if they were korean, why did they attack korea, make it pay tribute, force it to erect a humiliating column in its honor, and turn it into the hermit kingdom....

i dare you to reply...... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.241.53 (talk) 06:20, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

korea cant make a fly tremble as it does not have NUCLEAR BOMBS —Preceding unsigned comment added by RestoreTheEmpireSociety (talk • contribs) 23:59, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]