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Deletion discussion about Nike Indoor Nationals

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Split time ranking

I reverted your split time ranking in the article Femke Bol, because the information was not in the source that was referenced for that paragraph. If you could provide a reliable source for the ranking, I think it would be interesting to add. – Editør (talk) 14:37, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Eric Gilbertson (climber)

The article Eric Gilbertson (climber) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Page feels WP:TOOSOON. Sources are almost exclusively from single source (ExplorersWeb).The AAJ article is by him. Gilbertson has made some achievements but not yet sufficient (and/or significant coverage) to meet WP:SPORTSPERSON, WP:GNG.

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Nomination of Eric Gilbertson (climber) for deletion

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Conflict of interest reminder

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Thanks! DJ Cane _(he/him) (Talk) 15:27, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

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Hello @DJ Cane, COI declaration has been added. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 14:55, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Eric Gilbertson Country Highpoints: Order Climbed

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October 2024

Hello, I'm Graywalls. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Eric Gilbertson (climber), but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. https://www.countryhighpoints.com/ is the article subject's own website. Per WP:RS, someone's own website should be used very, very sparingly. Graywalls (talk) 18:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello KnowledgeIsPower9281. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being employed (or being compensated in any way) by a person, group, company or organization to promote their interests. Paid advocacy on Wikipedia must be disclosed even if you have not specifically been asked to edit Wikipedia. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

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Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:KnowledgeIsPower9281. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=KnowledgeIsPower9281|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. The nature of various articles you have created gives an impression that you're creating those articles on behalf of others for compensation. If so, the name of the company/person paying you, and the name of the client must be disclosed. This must be done for each and every article for which you are being compensated for. Graywalls (talk) 18:36, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Graywalls, as stated in my COI disclosure, I am not being financially compensated for my edits, directly or indirectly. I have done these edits in my free time and as a hobby. My reasoning for doing so is to improve Wikipedia's accuracy in the topics I have edited (highpointing and athletics). While I have talked with Gilbertson about highpointing, neither he, nor anyone else, is paying me to edit Wikipedia on their behalf. I am doing these edits entirely on my own accord and wanting to do so. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 21:20, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. The reason for this message was not for the climber. It is because I've noticed you created articles on corporate sponsored events only using sources controlled by the host. Graywalls (talk) 22:16, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Graywalls, just to clarify, what I said before also applies to any article I have created/edited on a track meet or track league like Grand Slam Track, Athlos, HOKA Festival of Miles, Nike Indoor/Outdoor Nationals, and Brooks PR Invitational. I created/edited these articles because Wikipedia was missing information on them and they are important in the world of high school or pro running. Once again, other than my unpaid COI with Eric, my editing is entirely independent and done on my own volition, not sponsored or paid by any organizations. A lot of these events only had self-sources, which, in retrospect, I realize violates WP policy. Thank you for your understanding and removing the articles which violate WP policy. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 22:29, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Uzbekistan, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. It's been generally agreed that "countryhightpoints.com" by Eric Gilbertson (climber) which whom you've acknowledge COI is not a reliable source. Please stop introducing this source as reference. Graywalls (talk) 19:30, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

How about Peakbagger as a source without the blog? KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 19:32, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

It seems quite obvious the intention is to introduce any contents with Eric Gilbertson linked information into articles. The Peakbagger source you added included. Since it's still a user generated source, I'm not too keen on it. There are many sources, like WP:NYPOST and WP:MEDIUM used in many articles. Those sources are generally unacceptable. Being found in many articles is not an indication it's good. Since Peakbagger is a self published source based on user provided info, I'm opposed to it. I linked to the prior WP:RSN discussion on that somewhere. Graywalls (talk) 19:39, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

@Graywalls, please remember WP:Assume good faith. I am not trying to be disruptive; my intention is to improve Wikipedia's accuracy as Khazret Sultan is not the highest point in Uzbekistan. Though I removed Eric's blog as a source, you are entitled to your opinion of Peakbagger and/or Peakery not being reliable sources. Even though I have a COI with him my intention is to improve the accuracy of the encyclopedia, so please do not accuse me of changing the Uzbekistan article to simply promote his work. It just so happens that he is the one who determined Alpomish as being higher than Khazret Sultan. Rather than keep outdated information on there, the best option would be to find an independent secondary source mentioning Alpomish, which may not exist if you consider peakbagger as unreliable in this instance. It would be best to get a consensus from other editors though on Alpomish vs. Khazret Sultan, not just you and I. Thank you. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 19:58, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Good faith is assumed, but please see WP:GFISNOT. Every or essentially all insertions of Countryhighpoint.com appear to be from you and the repeated insertions of his blog/website have led multiple people to question intentions in relation to Eric Gilbertson and it seems like the peakbagger you've been inserting generally contain data attributed to Eric Gilbertson. You did declare conflict-of-interest. I am not really sure what the conflict-of-interest is, but are you willing to elaborate more on the nature of the relationship?

Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_362#Is_Peakbagger.com_a_reliable_source? Peakbagger is a controversial source. No consensus on its usability. Graywalls (talk) 20:32, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

That's not true as Gilbertson's website has been used as references before I even started editing Wikipedia. I created articles on country highpoints he determined because they were in peakbagger and did not have coverage on the encyclopedia. I had previously thought peakbagger to be a sufficient source for WP as many articles use it as a reference.

I'm not sure what you don't understand as other editors seem fine with my declaration. If you specifically need clarification, I am not Gilbertson, there are no financial incentives, and there is no family connection. As a highpointer myself I have simply talked with him about highpointing and that includes his surveys.

As I have said to you before, my intentions of creating country highpoint articles or adding info on his surveys were not to promote Gilbertson's work. They were to improve the accuracy of Wikipedia. With that said, I created the WP article on Gilbertson because I thought his achievements warranted a WP article. This conversation is going in circles and I will no longer insert his website as a source, but still believe that reliable, independent secondary sources on his work are sufficient for WP. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 20:55, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

If WP policy considers peakbagger and his blog to be unreliable sources, I will of course listen.

However, do not spin my conflict of interest into something it is not. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 21:09, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

The issue here is that your edits appear to be promotional. You are continually editing around the subject of Gilbertson and spamming links to his blog. The fact that you are doing so without being paid by Gilbertson is neither here or there, it is still unacceptable.

You are continually encountering resistance in relation to these edits from other users. Some of the edits are being reverted, and articles you have created are being nominated for deletion. Your promotional activity is thus taking up a large amount of volunteer time simply to undo what you are doing.

You have also clearly recruited Gilbertson to set up an account as a WP:MEATPUPPET to push the same agenda.

For info, most editors engaged in promotional editing claim, as you have done above, that their intentions were not to promote [x]. They were to improve the accuracy of Wikipedia. Even people working for PR companies or editing about themselves say just the same thing. Axad12 (talk) 17:05, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, while we have talked and while he created an account to illustrate his point of view, I have agreed to no longer edit in this matter, so I don't understand why it is an issue other than the time it takes to revert the edits. Please suggest a solution so that this conversation does not go in circles and we can all stop pointing fingers. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 17:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Possible suggestion: you revert the edits? Axad12 (talk) 18:39, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Fair. At this point it seems most of the work has been done as most edits have been reverted and most (if not all) of the articles will be deleted. The only thing I will say is that his findings can be included in Wikipedia if they have significant secondary coverage, but given that I have a COI I will from now on refrain from doing that directly and go to other editors first. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 03:17, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

To clarify a comment I said above (22:29, 15 October 2024 (UTC)), my editing is entirely independent and done on my own volition, including with my unpaid COI with Eric. Of course, my talking with Eric has an influence on my opinion (thus a conflict of interest), but my editing is still done independently and I am the one deciding the edits I do. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 21:25, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Athlos moved to draftspace

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2024 Navy crash

I wanted to let you know that I reverted your edits to Mount Rainier regarding the recent Navy plane crash. While the media is reporting this as being "near Mount Rainier," it appears it is more in the remote mountains between Rimrock Lake and Bumping Lake. This content is probably better suited for a different mountain page (though I don't think the specific mountian has been released yet) and/or Okanogan–Wenatchee National Forest. DJ Cane _(he/him) (Talk) 18:36, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello @DJ Cane! I was just was looking through some sources. This source, USA Today, showed the search plane going around an area just to the east of Rainier NP in Yakima County, so it seems relatively close to Rainier. Won't change anything until you respond. Roughly over William Douglas Wilderness. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 00:36, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

I think the William Douglas Wilderness is accurate based on the search plane routes displayed on USA Today and other sources. I 100% think this is notable enough to include in some article (and that the text you had in Mount Rainier was appropriate other than being too far away), but until we hear what specific location this crash happened at it's hard to say where it should go. I think the best course of action is to hold the paragraph in your sandbox for future use. Thank you for understanding and for your response. I hope you're not feeling too beat down after the last few days. DJ Cane _(he/him) (Talk) 00:48, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. Thank you!

Not at all! It's good experience that sharpens me as a Wikipedia editor. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 00:55, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Leklata

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I would have re-directed if I could find a reliably published, reliable source attributing Leklata to Ghana or Togo, but I am only finding bloggy personal websites and other user generated aggregator websites and when it can't be reliably established that Leklata is a name attributed to Ghana in reliably published sources, it isn't appropriate to redirect and it should be deleted.

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Highest points of Africa

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A barnstar for you!

		The Anti-Flame Barnstar
		For your level headed attitude during the discussions related to highpointing recently, including getting involved in cleaning up articles that weren't discussed. DJ Cane (he/him) (Talk) 16:38, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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