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Kaybeesquared (talk) 15:54, 18 February 2018 (UTC) starting a talk page

Hi this is my Talk page.--Kaybeesquared (talk) 11:26, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

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Kaybeesquared, good luck, and have fun. Stinglehammer (talk) 22:22, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Many thanks for coming to our International Women's Day editathon today, Karen. Another fab article in Lavinia Malcolm. Terrific work! Stinglehammer (talk) 19:00, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanx for ur patience and cupcakes 🍩 Kaybeesquared (talk) 15:43, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Editor's Barnstar
Nice article on Emily Blathwayt !! Victuallers (talk) 15:16, 2 April 2018 (UTC)


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Some baklava for you!

Some baklava for you. Stinglehammer (talk) 16:08, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Women in Red Barnstar
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Having reviewed this advice, the image will be better if it remained as is to see the heraldry detail of the certificate. So I will add the template {{non-free no reduce}} to the image page.

Kaybeesquared (talk) 12:53, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Why use the image?

Its inclusion in the article adds significantly to the article because the photo and its historical significance are the object of discussion in the article. Kaybeesquared (talk) 23:03, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Today's activity!

Kaybeesquared (talk) 18:10, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

adding links to join notable suffragettes and suffragists to each other and added supporter Keir Hardie to the list of British suffragettes; tidied up page for Edith New - picture in Hawick may be interest for the Scottish suffrage timeline

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Kaybeesquared (talk) 21:20, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Link: [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by EMcAndrew (talk • contribs) 17:08, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Kaybeesquared (talk) 20:14, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Today's activity - added some links on Emmeline Pankhurst's page to named suffragettes; added Elsa Gye and Jessie Kenney to the list page (list of suffragettes by nationality). Checking entries on DC Chalmers and MP Grant next.

Speedy deletion nomination of File:NIK 0052-300x201.jpg

Deleted notice

Kaybeesquared (talk) 16:58, 10 March 2019 (UTC) Having some difficulties with a University official blogpost which declares CC by SA 3.0 and includes images of Prof. Alison J. Tierney; tried re-uploading the picture, with more detail, tried adding 'official licence' text, and now added authorised 'permission' in my capacity as a Director of the University.

This may not work. I am not be doing any of this properly, I feel at next wiki-thon will need training but also probably the University will have to consider how best to allow others to share materials onto Wiki Commons that are desired to be shared under such open licenses; give simple instructions for staff - or others to share onto Wiki (or just me?).

Advice welcome


23:08, 14 March 2019 (UTC) Kaybeesquared (talk) 23:55, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Today's activity

Added material from Diane Atkinson book to the pages of Janie Allan (and linked her to Teresa Billington-Grieg and Arabella Scott) and added material to Laura Ainsworth and added links there as well. Added back-links and categories to Alison J. Tierney and deleted orphan notice as a result. Gathered some material for other pages not yet drafted, updated user page with link to WiR blog.

Recent activity

Added citations and links to


Sarah Jane Baines Hertha Ayrton Helen Archdale Maud Allan Mary Sophia Allen Kaybeesquared (talk) 20:20, 19 March 2019 (UTC)


Kaybeesquared (talk) 23:34, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Created new DRAFT ARTICLE on Grace Alderman


Kaybeesquared (talk) 21:34, 23 March 2019 (UTC)


Today's Activity Sat 23/03

Added substantial detail and two quotes to Minnie Baldock and links and back links to

Elsie Howie Vera Holme Augustine Birrell - MP where above hid in Hall organ overnight, Baldock rented house opposite to prep.

and Mary Clarke 

5 new WiR identified for action - perhaps - need to check names etc.

Emily Cobb

Louise Eates

Jane Sbarborough


Sara Jessie Stephenson


Minnie Turner

Also confusion in Diane Atkinson re Minnie Baldock location after 2012 (Southampton or Liverpool?)


Today's activity Friday 29th March

Improved content and links to

Beatrice Sanders

Arabella Scott

"Frances Gordon"

Ethel Moorhead

Julia Scurr and John Scurr

And added citations from Diane Atkinson


Today's activity Thursday 11th April

Added four incidents to Evelyn Sharp and content to Henry Nevinson with citations from Diane Atkinson. Also moved a para on Sharp which was under wrong heading

Today's activity Thursday 2nd May

Added details and citation to Zelie Emerson Ethel Smyth

The Inch

Good to meet yesterday. Thought you might be interested in The Inch, Edinburgh, renamed with Ewan's help. Papamac (talk) 06:29, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanx yes good to meet you! You have made a great page..very interested in the Postbox story - had heard it but not realised was at the Inch. We used to live at Ellen’s Glen. Best wishes. Kaybeesquared (talk) 15:17, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Today's updates

Acted on comments. Added redlinks for some of the above. Added detail and cited Atkinson for Thewlis, Grace Harben (husband's page), Maggie Travers Symons, and Daisy Solomon (mother's page), and posed a question re the Tallemache sisters.


Today Cecily Saunders

Decided to improve the article and add comments to the talk page. Some is from my own experience as an employee for 3 years and so may be excluded by future edits. Found some useful references and image of St Christopher's to use to reinforce the areas that were not explained clearly. More work to be done on expounding her Christian view, and also confirm her award from the Pope.


Today Ida Wylie and Rachel Barrett

Added I.A.R. Wylie to list of British suffragettes (although born in Australia), active in UK with 'The Suffragette' editor Rachel Barrett. Links, citations from Atkinson and dates corrected

Today Rose Lamartine Yates

Discovered her husband is redlink but information about his support for the movement is in her page.

Kaybeesquared (talk) 21:16, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

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speedy deletion accepted

Forgot the basic check before starting a new page in sandbox - won't do that again! Kaybeesquared (talk) 20:57, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

supporter of women's suffrage and needlework

Added to Ernest Thesiger article today

Kaybeesquared (talk)

adding to three Marys from 'Threads of Life

Kaybeesquared (talk) 21:44, 24 June 2019 (UTC) details and more descriptors of the needlework added. Mary Linwood Mary Delany Mary Knowles All involved in the court of Queen Charlotte.

adding to various pages on the volunteers in the Spanish Civil War

see contributions

and adding to Esther Nisenthal Krinitz from 'Threads of Life

more work needed on this page for inline citations and as in notice at top of page - to remove copyright risk (from its previous editors) and to bring in other references of a notable survivor

Kaybeesquared (talk) 14:32, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Isaac Singer

Editing material on this page, from Threads of Life. Surprised to find detailed family without citations, and some discrepancies on his birthplace and other information, needing improvement. Kaybeesquared (talk) 22:26, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Hannah Mitchell

Updated details and citations on Hannah Mitchell role as suffragette. See her talk page for question on verifying dates as JP. Kaybeesquared (talk) 22:36, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

various suffragettes

adding content and Atkinson citations, where possible remember to put notes on talk page if citations disagree. also reviewing watchlist, some stylistic lessons there. Good to see revert activity coming in for 'wilful' changes (women to men, silly names etc) see contributions Kaybeesquared (talk) 22:30, 21 July 2019 (UTC)


Violet Aitken

created a page for Violet Aitken but found images were copyright Museum of London.

Suffragette Fellowship

Pleased to find this in the Museum of London webpage and linked reference to the key members.<ref> https://collections.museumoflondon.org.uk/online/agent/3592.html/ref> This is still a redlink in Wikipedia as the organisation which kept the documents from the women who fought for the vote.

Also created page for William Ball (subject of Torture in an English Prison) after some mis-edits. And pleased to see the Katherine "Kitty" Marshall page been improved.

Kaybeesquared (talk) 22:48, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Kaybeesquared (talk) 22:48, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about George Drever

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Hello and thank you for your advice, I am still learning!

Can the article page just be removed from these categories rather than deleted altogether? If it is seen as too incomplete can it be moved 'back' into a DRAFT ARTICLE status instead.

The notability of Scottish working class volunteers in the Spanish Civil War such as George Drever is referenced elsewhere and others can find more supporting materials, or I can when back in action (but not this coming 7 days however, due to other commitments).

Help and advice is much appreciated.

Other editors who have advised me can help steer?

WikiProject iconWomen in Red: 2019
WikiProject iconThis page is of interest to WikiProject Women in Red.Women in RedWikipedia:WikiProject Women in RedTemplate:WikiProject Women in RedWomen in Red articles

Kaybeesquared (talk) 14:23, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi. First, you're doing very good work on the project, so please keep it up. Second, I formatted your comments on the AfD, take a look to see how comments at AfD should be. Third, {{Re|Onel5969}} I assume that you are attempting to "ping" me. That's incorrect formatting. Again, at the AfD I formatted it correctly so that you could see how to do it. Fourth, don't let this AfD discourage you. I'll discuss the AfD at that talk page.Onel5969 TT me 15:35, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
So it closed as keep. Good work on improving the article.Onel5969 TT me 18:25, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

George Drever added two citations

See updated version of the page Kaybeesquared (talk) 14:47, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Kaybeesquared (talk) 18:18, 11 August 2019 (UTC) Found some more sources on George Drever, also reference that he was 'too important to lose' and Special Branch confirming the impact of his actions/beliefs on his future career in military and civil life. This adds to the 'notability' case. Added material to the subject page for Blacklisting.

Kitty Marshall

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Being semi-retired from Wikipedia, I had a wonderful surprise to see that the beautiful Kitty Marshall now has an article. I was always planning to get around to it, but never did. So please accept this barnstar as a sign of my appreciation for producing the article and not just making a stub. PS. Thanks for the updates to Rachell Barrett too, some great additional work. FruitMonkey (talk) 13:06, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

The Kenneys

Hi Kaybeesquared, I just finished a short article on Nell Kenney. I noticed that on many of the articles on the various Kenney sisters it is stated that there were 12 siblings. I cannot find a reference to that specific number. Do you have a reference to that fact? Thanks. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 15:22, 3 September 2019 (UTC)


@WomanArtistUpdates:

Hi WomanArtistUpdates

The trusty Diane Atkinson ISBN 9781408844045 references that there were 11 children; so I have added citation and info about her mother's death to Nell Kenney and will edit key points into the others. Atkinson refers in her citations to the Annie Kenney 'Memories of a Militant" p9 as source for comment about their father's nursing care. Hope that is helpful

Kaybeesquared (talk) 19:14, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Kaybeesquared! I saw the Atkinson reference to eleven children, but I was reluctant to starting changing all those pages in case there were actually twelve. (Did you notice that Nellie didn't even make the index of Atkinson's massive book?) Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:35, 8 September 2019 (UTC)


Yes I noticed nothing about Nellie in Atkinson - and lo and behold, Sorry after being so sure, I have looked again at the list of Kenney Papers and it states at the start 12 siblings but does not name them all - we could write to UoEA or Atkinson to confirm this I guess. Would you like to do that or should I follow up in due course https://portal.uea.ac.uk/documents/6207125/6460911/Kenney%252BPapers.pdf/90e1a9d5-fde9-4b49-a995-87d24addf96f

Will add note to talk page of each Kenney in wikipedia meantime Kaybeesquared (talk)

I leave it to your expertise to confirm the number of siblings. Kaybeesquared. Thanks!WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:37, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
@WomanArtistUpdates:

University of East Anglia archivist has answered - and referred to Source: The Kenney Family of Springhead by Geoffrey Woodhead.

The confusion may be with Clara the youngest dying as a baby. I will edit into appropriate wiki-pages over the next few days!

The Kenneys are:

1. Reginald 1873-1954

2. Mary 1874-1954

3. Sarah Ellen 1876- 1953

4. Alice Emily 1878-1927

5. Annie 1879-1953

6. Caroline 1880-1952

7. Rowland 1882-1961

8. Jane 1884-1961

9. Jessie 1887-1985

10. Herbert 1889-1973

11. Harold Hinchcliffe 1890-19--? (may have died in his teens)

12. Clara 1891-1891 (5 months)

Kaybeesquared (talk) 08:46, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Kaybeesquared maybe phrase it as "...twelve children, eleven surviving past infancy..." and then cite Atkinson and Woodhead. What do you think?WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:55, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
BTW, the coding you are using to ping me doesn't :) Try a lowercase u in the squiggly brackets. Best, WAU
WomenArtistUpdates

thanks - great idea! good working with you on such an amazing family. BTW, Hope this syntax works. Kaybeesquared (talk) 21:02, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Kaybeesquared, Successful ping :)! It is an amazing family. I made a Kenney Family template for the bottom of their pages. I only included the sisters with pages. It includes all the iterations of their names plus birth and death year. I transferred the full list of twelve children to the template's talk page. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:46, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Jenny Kenney

Started article for Jenny (Jane) Kenney, but should probably have called in Jane (Jenny)? Not much reference material but could add more about the rest care for Cat and Mouse act? picture of the house Tower Cressy in a blog so probably not open source. And needs more citation on the Montessori teaching methods, perhaps?

Kaybeesquared (talk) 22:10, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Activity: tidied up pages with Kenney family re siblings and links to Eagle House template, and also put list of siblings provided by University of East Anglia and Woodhead reference into the relevant talk pages.

Kaybeesquared (talk) 21:56, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Now that is interesting! I kept discovering new Kenneys and I never realised there were four. I'm looking forward to reading it as I believe she was ill.... from the photo and Eagle house family adopted her and the other Kenneys. Hope to see you soon. Victuallers (talk) 20:36, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Emmeline Pankhurst

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Kaybeesquared (talk) 20:55, 4 October 2019 (UTC) thank you for this advice, I was adding reverse links to the new page on Hunger Strike Medal thank you for reversing the change!

Hunger Strike Medal and Holloway Brooch

Hi Kaybeesquared! It looks like you and Jack1956 are working on Hunger Strike Medal and Holloway Brooch histories. I have looked around for a list of recipients of the Holloway Brooch as well as how many were made by Toye & Co. If either of you could direct me to that information I would appreciate it. It has been suggested to me that the information might be available on UK ProQuest, maybe even the subject of a dissertation. I do not have access, but if you do and can help I would appreciate it. I am just taking a chance by leaving you this note and pinging Jack1956. Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:59, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

I'm off to the Pankhurst Centre tomorrow so I will see if anyone knows there. The other person is Elizabeth Crawford who has an OBE for knowing about this stuff. She is on Twitter and has a good web site. She has been very helpful to Women in Red. Victuallers (talk) 20:44, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Victuallers! WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 20:48, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

I asked about this at the centre. They had a list of suffragettes but I think this is the one created years later which is well known. They had no idea about a list of hunger strikers or forcefed women. However! I fid discover this which is supplenental to the story about "Evaline Hilda Burkitt, first suffragette to be force fed, created by artist Helen Marshall". I have created a wikidata record for her. She appears to be the first! and we had no article. Roger aka Victuallers (talk) 22:16, 10 October 2019 (UTC) (I did get to re-meet Helen Pankhurst on the day that the WSPU formed (today!) on the spot that it was formed by her g.grandmother!) 

   Thanks Victuallers have posted a special barnstar on your talk page.

Kaybeesquared (talk) 13:50, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi WomenArtistUpdates (talk found another Holloway brooch recipient in Australia, WSPU Louie Cullen. Lovely image of her 'brooch' in the National Library of Australia archive, perhaps ask to use? Thanks for the 'fair use' one in Commons meantime.

Kaybeesquared (talk) 23:13, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Kaybeesquared - actually "fair use" means we will only use the image on the Holloway Brooch page. Any other uses of this image, on Wikipedia or elsewhere, might be copyright infringement. I will remove the image from Cullen's page and figure out if we can use the other one tomorrow. Best, WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 02:05, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
well, kick me in the head and call me stupid, but I can't get to the photo of Holloway Prison brooch belonging to Louie (Louisa) Cullen (Item 2004/3/309) how did you see it? advice please. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:45, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Spacing

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Also, on an unrelated note, based off of your recent edits, you make like to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Feminism and/or Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's History, as I notice you have been editing multiple pages related to these topics. Helper201 (talk) 02:00, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
@Helper201: thank you for these invitations, I have looked at these Wiki projects and may join the Women's History but I am really focussing on the suffragettes for quite a while yet, with odd foray to other areas, for a wee change but happy to look in them now and again if I need help.

Victuallers and Stinglehammer have been my patient guides, encouragers and teachers. Kaybeesquared (talk) 22:45, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Louie Cullen

Hi Kaybeesquared! I just reviewed the article you created on Louie (Louisa) Cullen. I think it looks great! I did some minor cleanup/formatting.

I did note that the "Other details" section might read better as prose. And are any of the noted artifacts available as photos on the Wikimedia Commons? It would be great to have a gallery, if possible.

Keep up the great work, and feel free to reach out if you have any questions or need help with anything! = paul2520 (talk) 13:20, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

editorial advice

Thank you paul2520 and Helper201 for these tips, I have edited list into prose. I use the VisualEditor and like more space to make things easy to read, but will try to remember this advice in future edits. Thanks Kaybeesquared (talk) 22:06, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

The article looks great, Kaybeesquared! It definitely meets the requirements to be nominated as a Did you know... article and get time on the front page. Are you interested in nominating it yourself? I'd be happy to help -- or nominate it for you, since I'm guessing it would be your first "DYK". Let me know; more folks should know about Cullen! = paul2520 (talk) 22:21, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

WOW thanks! @Paul2520: I would prefer someone else to nominate it so thanks if you are willing. I found her a fascinating person and so unknown apart from NLA blog which was superb.@Victuallers: and @Stinglehammer: have been my patient teachers and encouragers and have done so much for Women In Red. Kaybeesquared (talk) 22:33, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

@Kaybeesquared: I submitted the nomination here. I'll keep an eye on it, but I'd encourage you to check on it, in case there are suggestions.
My one question: is Cullen one of the women in the photo of the Women's March? If we have a reliable source that says so, it would be great to include the photo in the DYK nomination. If not, it's okay. = paul2520 (talk) 03:40, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Ellen Crocker

Hi Kaybeesquared - I moved Ellen Crocker, 'cos I don't think we do aliases in the article title. Better way to handle it is to put redirects together for the other names - Nellie Crocker, Nelly Crocker - which I've done. --Tagishsimon (talk) 20:54, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

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thanks

Thanks Ipiggott I thought I had joined during an earlier WiR meet up wiki-edit event with help from Victuallers so thank you for alerting me. I began and continue under the auspices of the wiki-edit events at the University of Edinburgh kindly supported by Stinglehammer but as you see have become bolder - but hopefully not rash! Tried to load an image of the WiR badge 2019 for my profile but no luck. Best wishes to this important project and everyone involved in recognising notable women across the globe. Kaybeesquared (talk) 13:02, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

suffragettes continued

As well as working through a list of Women in Red suffragettes identified as holders of the Hunger Strike Medal and others connected to them, and added a super image of Irish suffragette Lillian Metge, thanks to the National Library of Ireland, I have returned to the monthly sessions of Women In Red at the University of Edinburgh Library and as always so well supported by Stinglehammer discovered that we were working on the very site of the first female undergraduate accommodation (Masson Hall) named for the husband of Emily Rosaline Orme, suffragist, David Masson supporter of women's university education - just as we were updating her article with information about their joint activities. Kaybeesquared (talk) 22:33, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Louie Cullen

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Wiki markup, etc.

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A pie for you!

... and a pie for you! I think when you have done a DYK then you are a fully paid up Wikipedian. Still hoping to see you next year at Ed Uni. Till then ...... Suffragette DYK success! and Merry Xmas hug! Victuallers (talk) 22:24, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks for the cupcake, that was very nice to receive! Merry Christmas to you too! MurielMary (talk) 20:26, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks for the coffee! Appreciated Kaybeesquared (talk) 14:05, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

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Suffragette Handkerchief

Thanks for the message and the Barnstar! It is always nice to get a bit of recognition from one's peers. As for the image, I took it myself so I don't suppose there's much they can do about it. It is after all an artifact from 1912 so thy cannot claim to own the copyright. Someone just found it in a jumble sale! Jack1956 (talk) 14:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Hear! Hear! It is great to see the women’s signatures close up ( I once embroidered a tablecloth of 50 year old signatures for a local church). Thanks again for encouraging a wiki-beginner. Kaybeesquared (talk) 17:50, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks - it is always good to get words of encouragement! Appreciated! Kaybeesquared (talk) 16:25, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

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{{Re|Doomsdayer520}}: Thanks I agree! - used both names in full in case there was enough significant sources to generate into two individual articles. Is there enough as it is, duplicating the joint material references and so on? if it is thought not - will do as proposed and change to the simpler name suggested, pending any other edits.

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first 50 pages

Created my first 50 articles, two rated B class, over 20 rated C class. These are mainly women, mostly suffragettes, odd suffragist or nurse and rare man. High Constables of Leith an unusual topic as it was a request by contact. Still a beginner and trying to learn, and remember what I learn to do better.

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  • Hi just dropping in to congratulate you on your fiftieth article. Well done! It’s great to see a new editor working so hard and contributing so much. Happy editing and please ask on my talk page if I can help you in any way. All the best. Mccapra (talk) 03:57, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Hunger Strike Medal

Hello Kaybeesquared, thank you for your help !!! And for your many thanks, best regards, --Pierrette13 (talk) 04:41, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello again Kaybeesquared, I created the same category on French Wikipedia this morning and I intend to translate the Hunger Strike Medal page, as well as The Suffragette Handkerchief, I'm pleased to notice that you used Diane Atkinson's book, I recently translated her page into French, best regards, --Pierrette13 (talk) 15:06, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello again Kaybeesquared, that's very nice of you, and a "clin d’œil" to all these women who received a medal for their courage (braver than me...), best regards, --Pierrette13 (talk) 06:18, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

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Maud Arncliffe Sennett

Hello Kaybeesquared, I hope you're doing well. I translated Maud Arncliffe Sennett into French and you improved a lot the English article (thank you). The reference to her career (especially Shakespeare Memorial at Stratford-upon-Avon, her husband's career, and others. doesn't fit with the reference [2]. The ODNB mention "G. Pownall, oils, 1913, Swan Theatre Gallery, Stratford upon Avon, Warwickshire". Best regards, --Pierrette13 (talk) 04:50, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello and thanks @Pierrette13 thanks so much for correcting Maud Arncliffe Sennett reference used, so I have revisited the reference and amended the text, the point it was used for was that these early career reviews highlighted her strong delivery of the spoken word, which assisted her promotion of the suffragette cause. I hope this is now clearer and appropriately cited. Best regards - Kaybeesquared (talk) 10:48, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello Kaybeesquared, thank you for your answer and improvement, have a nice day, --Pierrette13 (talk) 10:58, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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my talk page Thanks Lirazelf I enjoyed the session very much and want to keep editing women and protests, and especially suffragettes. Although I do practice fairly often, I make simple mistakes and wonder if you could recommend a short but easy-to-follow wiki-online or video-learning course on the Wiki source edit mark up language. It would need to be absolute beginner level. It could help me to correct my own mistakes!

Thanks again for the workshop. Kaybeesquared (talk) 19:24, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

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@Mccapra Thank you so much for this suggestion, I appreciate it and have 'gone for it'. I have found comments helpful but feel I should be brave but not reckless now. So here's hoping autopatrolled is approved. Still need to learn more about wiki mark-up but here goes! Best wishes Kaybeesquared (talk) 14:08, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you. I will tread gently ! Kaybeesquared (talk) 10:45, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Error?

March 2012? Is this correct? MiguelAlanCS (talk) 20:10, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

@MiguelAlanCS thanks it should be 1912 of course! Apologies -feel free to change Thank you Kaybeesquared (talk) 07:48, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

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All corrected - thanks. And added Beamish and Stephenson to the notable people lists for their birth place. Kaybeesquared (talk) 10:10, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

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@Hmlarson and @IanTheArchivist Thank you for the invite, maybe more Ian as I was looking at Suffragettes angle. Best wishes for your project and if not already please link to international WomenInRed

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Hello, again! Let me attempt to play the wise old codger: when adding material to an existing article you must take care to follow the existing formatting style. Your addition chez Lansbury put the book title in the References list when it ought to be in the Sources section. I keep an eye on this article and others by our much missed colleague (and my friend IRL) Brian Boulton, and I see I have missed at least one other such violation of WP:CITEVAR. I shall put it on my list to clean up. Meanwhile, a bit of advice about changing Featured Articles: it is advisable to propose changes, other than minor ones, on the article talk page. The texts of FAs have been approved by reviews by experienced editors, and alterations or additions should be made with caution. Best wishes, Tim riley talk 17:02, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Tim riley all very welcome advice, and I apologise in my enthusiasm. Noted in the past that there is an alert on 'Featured Articles' so tend to steer clear - but not popped up as I went along - today. Sorry for causing you extra work.. your beginner and appreciative friend. Kaybeesquared (talk) 18:14, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Please don't hesitate to call on me for advice if wanted. I'm 100% behind you in your drive to boost articles on women. Tim riley talk 21:44, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Very grateful for your kind help and support for the WIR project. Kaybeesquared (talk) 22:07, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

She to surname

May I ask why you keep changing instances of "she" to the surname? In a paragraph, the first reference should usually be to the surname, but subsequent references should be to "she". "Smith did this. Smith did that. Smith did this," is weird English. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:55, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Necrothesp There are three driving forces for changes like that to both remove ambiguity and non-NPOV gendered content.

1) where there is use of given name ...to remove any use of first name except in full or in early years e.g. Jane did... which would not happen on notable male biography pages (IMHO) Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Biography#Subsequent_use

2) to remove use of gendered pronoun (see essay guides re writing about women, for men editors or authors tend to use surname more often) Wikipedia:Gender-neutral_language

3) to ensure each statement can stand alone for future editing in new material so the citations are not inadvertently covering a different statement(avoids 'who is she?' where there are different women being referred to in the article not key person.)

As still a relative newcomer, I am happy to be corrected. Thanks. Kaybeesquared (talk) 14:18, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Indeed, first names should not be used. But the surname does not need to be used every time. "She" is perfectly good English when referring to someone who was or is a woman, unless they are on record as objecting to gender-specific pronouns (highly unlikely before present times and pretty rare even today). This is not what WP:GENDER means. It simply means we should not use male or female pronouns when referring to someone who could be either male or female, not that we shouldn't use gender-specific pronounds when referring to a specific person. See WP:GENDER#Precision and clarity. As to (3), we try to write in clear standard English. If it is obvious who "she" refers to, then we use it. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:31, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

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Since my first Wiki-editathon in FEB. 2018, pleased to have created 60 new articles and more to come!

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Thanks to all Wikimedians, editors, reviewers and archivists who have helped me, such as but not only

Stinglehammer
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Apologies for any frustrations I may have caused you - by not learning from previous advice/mistakes. It has been superb having such excellent teachers! Thank You. Kaybeesquared (talk) 13:50, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Delighted to have been of help. Don't hesitate to demand further advice if ever wanted. Tim riley talk 20:29, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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I'm sure this is yours Victuallers (talk) 16:33, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Apologies

I'm having zoom issues so pass my apologies to Ewan, yourself et al, Roger aka Victuallers (talk) 14:20, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

A WIR barnstar (with Bar) for you!

The Women in Red Barnstar
I present this award to you in recognition of your exceptional hard work and tireless effort in helping WP:WOMRED. The recent article on Dr Morris was really impressive. Do take a virtual sprig of Blathwayt holly to plant in your own garden. Victuallers (talk) 14:36, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for these accolades

It is very kind of you but certainly Mary Morris and Jessie M.Soga research by IanTheArchivist made it even possible. Will pass on the accolades to him Kaybeesquared (talk) 16:29, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Ooops - I tried to nominate another DYK for WIR and only realised at the last that it was another of yours. Good work Victuallers (talk) 10:41, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

See the talk page - research was work of the Women EmpowerED in creating the hitlist and finding reliable sources. That is at least two DYK nominations from your events for International Women's Day 2021, good teamwork.... thanks Stinglehammer Kaybeesquared (talk) 12:06, 12 March 2021 (UTC)


Thanks & I think you graduated from the Template:This is a new user

Thanks for the edits on Meg Meeker. She is obviously a notable person. I'm thinking with 7,597 edits (cool graphs showing your edits), you probably don't need to put that new user template when adding to a talk page. I just passed 2000 and did most back in 2012-2013 and I figure I'm past it (although sometimes I'm rusty). >> M.P.Schneider,LC (parlemus • feci) 00:28, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words of encouragement User:MPSchneiderLC but I don't yet know source code editing, and fall foul of protocols such as in an AfD which is why I added it.
Thanks for support on the keep....more articles on notable women of all sorts needed in Wikimedia. Kaybeesquared (talk) 08:35, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
You're welcome. (I just edited your comments so they appear right and you don't have my whole user page on your talk page.>> M.P.Schneider,LC (parlemus • feci) 16:13, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Mary Morris (doctor)

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DYK for Christina Adane

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suffragettes and criminal biography category

Just noted today that Jessie Kenney was categorised in WikiProject Criminal Biography https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jessie_Kenney&diff=next&oldid=1006334363

Looking at this category there is not a section for political prisoners treated as criminals or UK suffragettes specifically?

But if Jessie Kenney is categorised that way, should her family and the rest of the Eagle House (suffragette's rest) suffragettes or the Holloway brooch and Hunger Strike Medal recipients be in this category too?

For consistency and connecting with the treatment of women's suffrage prisoners??

I am happy to help categorising articles for the women imprisoned if it is needed.

User:Victuallers User:Stinglehammer WIR

Kaybeesquared (talk) 10:54, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Pinging

Hello! My ping was entirely inadvertent, caused by my technical incompetence when archiving my talk page. Nevertheless, at your service if I can be of any assistance with anything. Best wishes, Tim riley talk 20:08, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Tim riley Thanks Tim - nice to hear an expert like yourself also gets wiki a wee bit wrong sometimes, as I do - very often.. (joke!)

Cannot think of any special requests unless you have access to sources/knowledge of the musical career of contralto Jessie M. Soga or her tutors Alberto Giovannini at the Milan Conservatory or Jacques Bonby whilst in Paris. Kaybeesquared (talk) 20:22, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

My prose may or may not be expert, but I am fumble-fingered with the technical side of Wikipedia, and kind colleagues often rescue me. As to Soga I have no Italian sources, but I'll see if I can find anything from Paris about her and/or Bonby. More anon. Tim riley talk 20:28, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks muchly. Kaybeesquared (talk) 20:33, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
I don't know that you're going to thank me all that muchly for this, because I don't think Soga studied with Jacques Bonby. The source cited for ref 23 in the article doesn't support the statement that she studied with him and indeed makes no mention of her anywhere. The book (p. 540) mentions Bonby as someone else's teacher, but I think it is a misprint for the well-known Parisian voice teacher Jacques Bouhy. I can find no mention of Bonby anywhere in the French press archives, but Bouhy, after a successful operatic career, became a well-known voice teacher, with an impressive list of pupils including at least one Briton, Clara Butt. He, in my opinion, is probably the Parisian teacher with whom Soga studied, but unfortunately I can find no actual evidence that she did so. On the whole, failing a reliable source for the sentence I'd be inclined to remove it, which won't materially affect the article. – Tim riley talk 10:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Tim riley How could I not thank you muchly - for such a rapid fulsome and helpful reply! We IanTheArchivist and I have been wondering why nothing findable on this tutor, so your investigation is great and so fast. She was a musician but also a (first tbc?) woman of colour suffragist in Scotland.

Thanks again for researching this question so very fast. Kaybeesquared (talk) 16:35, 9 May 2021 (UTC)


Tim riley Hello - you may recall that tou kindly offered to help...here is another wee beginners query - if you would be so kind.

Discussed with IanTheArchivist

How to properly reference a concert programme as a source? See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessie_M._Soga#cite_note-28

It was created on a 'journal' cite template but is there something better or a model for concert programmes? I tried searching help and style guides, looked at some singer's articles - if used they linked 'image of programme'?

Is there a standard approach you would recommend as best practice?

Sorry to bother you with something that must be guidance for out there in the wikiworld already.

Thanks again if you are able to assist in this query. Kindest regards and apologies for pinging if you are not. Kaybeesquared (talk) 20:50, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Glad to be of use, and pray never hesitate to ping if so inclined. It seems to me that a theatre or concert programme is as much a published source as a book or newspaper. If you have access to the published programme, then citing the concert details, date, location and publisher will, I think, meet the requirements of WP:V. If you have seen the programme it is ipso facto available somewhere: see WP:SOURCEACCESS. But I take issue with the statement that the composer of Soga's solo was Herbert Howells – he was aged nine in May 1902. And to be frank, I don't think the fact that Soga sang the solo, whoever wrote it, at a church social evening is even faintly noteworthy. Sorry to be a wet blanket. – Tim riley talk 21:35, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Tim, for your time & help...learning every day. Kaybeesquared (talk) 08:15, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

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Bearcat (talk) 14:08, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
I've been watching your contributions to the Charlotte Despard wiki and I'm very impressed. Loving the great work :) BulgeUwU (talk) 12:27, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
BulgeUwU thank you so much, appreciate this! - the new research is coming from findings in collaboration with IanTheArchivist on Women in Red - he deserves recognition for finding sources and is a new(er) user.

I will post a barnstar to him too.. Kaybeesquared (talk)

KaybeesquaredOh that's cool, in that case he deserves one to. I made a few pages myself for British feminists such as Dorothy Kuya and Jessie Eden but finding reliable information on their lives has been extremely difficult, so I've been watching a few other users including yourself to learn how to become a better editor :) BulgeUwU (talk) 13:19, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
BulgeUwU great articles - you may be interested in two Scottish women with some similarity Marjory Newbold and Mary Barbour. Thanks for your kind words... why not join Women in Red to help add more women! Monthly (virtual) meet ups are on offer to learn in a helpful community Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red.

Kaybeesquared (talk) 13:49, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

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Alumni or alumnae ??

Hello Kaybeesquared, could you help me ? According to me, the category [[Category:Brearley School alumni]] should be renamed into [[Category:Brearley School alumnae]] because it's an all-girls school. But I didn't succeed. Could you rename this category ? Best regards, --Pierrette13 (talk) 13:23, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Pierrette13 thanks for getting in touch on this. However I think the only way that I know to rename a category (or article) is to Move it i.e. to the new name. However the category area no doubt has its own special rules, and it may be that main category is 'NY school alumni' to cover male and female (a guess - I don't know for sure) anyway there is guidance on renaming a category saying we must first allow discussions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion#Speedy_renaming_and_merging Kaybeesquared (talk) 18:11, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello Kaybeesquared, thank you for your answer. I did so, and discovered that Category:Brearley School alumnae already existed, hmmmm ! --Pierrette13 (talk) 04:41, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

The wonders of Wiki Kaybeesquared (talk) 19:50, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Overlinking

Thank you for adding links to Jan BĂśhmermann. Only, some of them are considered WP:OVERLINK. Example: Poland - we don't link to current countries and their capitals. Example: mascot - we don't link to everyday words. Please read the guideline, and then remove some. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Ok dok thanks Kaybeesquared (talk) 22:22, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Thank you for creating Mary McNeill (doctor).

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Thank you for this message but credit is due to IanTheArchivist who did the research and the collating and the drafting. Thanks for making known another remarkable woman! Kaybeesquared (talk) 19:33, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Edinburgh event

Good to meet at this afternoon's event. This is just a hello to facilitate getting in touch during or after the event. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:48, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Andrew for this hello Kaybeesquared (talk) 13:32, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
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