User talk:Karcha

Hello Karcha! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. If you decide that you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some recommended guidelines to facilitate your involvement. Happy Editing! —Khoi khoi 00:40, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Your comment at Azerbaijan (Iran)

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Khoi khoi 21:48, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't feel like reading the whole talk page—can you please point out specific examples? Khoi khoi 22:19, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pardon, i have given iinsufficient link, you can read only AkHun section, not the whole talk page.

Secondly, please say me is 'perso-nazi' a personal attack? This is a politic attitude i think.--Karcha 22:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please follow tajik and khosrow's edits. They are working together and this must be illegal...--Karcha 22:29, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, calling someone a Nazi is a personal attack. Secondly, following someone's edits is a form of harassment. If you feel they are tag-teaming on pages, report it somewhere. Stalking users is not the solution. Khoi khoi 22:40, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, i didn't say nazi is a good thing, but if a person's behaviour is like a nazi, in this case what can i call it? I ask. Also, why this blocking warning is unilateral? Look at the scenario please; A is saying to B 'You are a killer'. B is really the killer. Calling B as a killer is a personal attack according to you and bad thing. Ok why are you warning only A? Is B right?--Karcha 22:53, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another user's actions do not excuse your own. Do not refer to other users, especially with such a derogatory tone. --InShaneee 23:21, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You've now been blocked for 24 hours for constant racist characterizations of other users, such as here. Do not refer to other users at all, discuss things on a content basis alone. --InShaneee 18:36, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This blocked user's request to have autoblock on their IP address lifted has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request.

Karcha (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Block message:

personal attacks

Blocking administrator: not provided.

Decline reason: You were blocked directly, and not autoblocked. As stated when you added this template to your talk page (see here), you are using the wrong template and therefore your case for unblock will not be reviewed fully since you have not provided a reason for unblocking. Please use {{unblock|your reason here}} instead. Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 01:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your request for comment

Why don't you bring your issues to WP:ANI or WP:RFC instead of spamming individual user's talk pages? —Wknight94 (talk) 01:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, i'm a new wikipedian and as i see that the users were writing admin's discussion page.--Karcha 02:13, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Hi Karcha, I have noticed that you've been following around Tajik and Khosrow II lately...could you please stop? Doing so violates Wikipedia:Harassment, and discourages users from contributing. If there is a problem please report it to admins; stalking is not the solution. Thanks, Khoi khoi 04:18, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Khoikhoi, you are right in one point, yes i've been around tajik and khosrow, however you are wrong in another point; i'm not stalking them, İ'm not a stalker, that's a good film only. I've been problematic issues. For instance, my last edit is in 'Rumi', after my editing iranian team reverted the article. They followed me in this example, however i don't accuse them. They have been confused issues too. I have reported it to noticeboard 2 times, but this is not working...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:ANI#Nation_Based_Vandalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:ANI#Systematic_Vandalism
--Karcha 12:39, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They probably noticed your edits to Rumi because the page is on their watchlist. And there have been some suggestions in response to your post at WP:AN/I: try dispute resolution! If that fails, try making a request for mediation. Cheers, Khoi khoi 03:08, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok Khoikhoi, i will take into consideration your suggestions. Best regards...--Karcha 10:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Protection is not an endorsement of the current version, see m:The Wrong Version. Khoi khoi 22:59, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ottoman Turkish

Karcha, why are you deleting Ottoman Turkish from these articles? During Sinan's time, they didn't use the Latin alphabet, but the Ottoman Turkish alphabet. Khoi khoi 01:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because, we don't need these. These have no value for readers. These languistic definitions are making confusion and readers are geting bored because of this word crowdedness. Besides, we have to put sumerian language definitions to Sumerians article and other relevant articles. You have to begin to learn Sumerian language if you are still insistent on your's. Please, have a look; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sumerian_26th_c_Adab.jpg --Karcha 01:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes,during Sinan's time, they didn't use Latin alphabet, they used Ottoman Turkish alphabet, however this language is a dead language now. It's only a lesson at several universities. Nobody uses this now. --Karcha 01:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Of course we need them, it's very important for readers to see how these people's names were written at the time. I haven't seen anyone confused with it so far, and it the Ottoman Turkish hardly takes up any space. If you know Sumerian, by all means please add it to the article. Khoi khoi 01:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone knows that Ottoman Turkish is extinct, but so is Hittite for example, but we still have the Hittite name for the Kızılırmak. These names are there for historical interest, not for modern-day usage. Khoi khoi 01:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We need but not for all of these articles. We need them in "x languages" articles. If readers want to see that time's alphabet or language, they can look Ottoman Turkish Language article or x language article. There isn't an example like this in other sources. Also, these definitions have connotations. In these example we are manipulated by arabic alphabets. All of the middleasian related articles are teeming with persian alphabets.--Karcha 02:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I beg to differ, and I think most users do as well. The name for the Ottoman Empire in the Ottoman Turkish alphabet is 100% relevant. For example, Christopher Columbus is the name that he is most commonly known by in English, but we also have his Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, and Catalan names up there. And I also disagree that this has anything to do with Persians. Khoi khoi 02:19, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, and Catalan languages are not dead languages like Ottoman Turkish language. --Karcha 02:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, and Catalan peoples can understand Christopher Columbus name variations, but nobody speaks and writes Ottoman Turkish and alphabet.--Karcha 02:32, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ottoman Turkish is dead today, but was alive at the time of Sinan. Khoi khoi 02:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TfD nomination of Template:Turkish History Brief

Template:Turkish History Brief has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Khosrow II 23:32, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Personal attacks again

Regarding edits such as this: Please stop. You have been blocked for this type of behavior before, and it will not be tolerated. --InShaneee 20:04, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Click the link I provided above. You call a user by a highly offensive name. --InShaneee 20:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do what you like, but if you continue to be disrespectful to other users, you will be blocked again. --InShaneee 20:14, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, here. --InShaneee 20:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding this situation, InShaneee is not "acting" (so far, only discussion on user talk pages) nor "unilateral" (I agree with him -- the edit appeared to be an incivil personal attack). Also, threatening "I'll complain you" to other users is not particularly civil either, and does not help your case. --Ginkgo100 ^{talk · e@} 23:13, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do not threaten other users with "action". Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 23:49, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

unblocked

After examining the evidence I have judged that there are valid reasons to believe that the block was the result of a terrible coincidence see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#I_want_to_unblock_User:E104421_and_User:Karcha. Thus, I am unblocking you. Sorry for all the pains but such incidents sometimes happen.

Karcha, some users find your overall edit contributions so far to be disruptive. This is probably not the right moment for this warning, but please be more constructive in editing or you may be blocked again, that time for disruption Alex Bakharev 04:01, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]