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Notability and credibility on sources
Hello! I was hoping to get your input on the page you recently put a tag on Ngô Ngọc Hưng. As per the suggestion I replaced several user-made content sites with news and media reporting websites (Such as pinkvilla, soompi, republic world, etc) and replaced a few links and such.
I see the issue with the other links, hopefully this edit has fixed some of the issues but I was wondering if there was more that I could do to further bulk up the article to remove the warning and secure it on wikipedia? I apologize if this is not something you normally advise on, I figured you may know since you added the template to it!
Thank you regardless, and Hopefully the article will be up to par! Jayb.rd98 (talk) Jayb.rd98 (talk) 07:21, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Jayb.rd98: Hello and thank you for the message. As per the suggestion, many of the sources that exist are generally unreliable like Twitter and YouTube. For Korean sites, you can refer to Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Reliable sources to see a list that can and cannot be used as a source. Soompi is considered unreliable as per WP:KO/RS. KRtau16 (talk) 08:21, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- I checked the talk page for the project korea and the discussions of soompi on the page seemed to agree that it was generally reliable as it simply translates other pages but the list was never changed. But to fit the letter of the law so to speak I simply linked the source article, since the translation was considered unreliable.
- For the youtube link, since it’s a link to the primary source, how would I replace it? Same with the twitter link, since it was simply a link to the media for the show that it referred to.Jayb.rd98 (talk) Jayb.rd98 (talk) 08:35, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Jayb.rd98: Soompi is useful if they provide their original source, use that source instead (that if the original source is reliable). Also, Republic World is unreliable; see WP:REPUBLICTV. For YouTube and Twitter, they are considered generally unreliable unless the accounts are verified and are subject-matter experts. It is advisable that you look for secondary sources that covered the YouTube videos you cited. KRtau16 (talk) 09:05, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
David Lambourne
Ko batin rabwa for the creation of Kiribati constitutional crisis: a great work that shows how you are able to contribute very well, bravo ! I think now we can create an article on the suspended puisne judge as the Kiribati Court of Appeal will hear his case next Friday. It will be very interesting to read the ruling of the Court. Arorae (talk) 02:28, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Arorae: Mauri and sorry for the late reply. Thank you for acknowledging my contributions. Really appreciate it. It is indeed a sad development about the crisis unfolding; we'll leave it to the Justice System to do its job.
- I am preparing for Semester 2 at the University of the South Pacific which will begin tomorrow (15 August 2022) which means I'll be rarely active on Wikipedia. Nevertheless, I'll contribute during my spare time and the weekends. Tekeraoi. KRtau16 (talk) 08:28, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- I will visit soon my son that studies at USP too and starts on Monday. Perhaps he knows you (he is I-Kiribati too). Don't worry, your contributions will stay and will be improved, even if you are busy most of the time.--Arorae (talk) 09:42, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Arorae: Oh wow, good to know. There are a lot of Kiribati students here. So great to see them in huge numbers. KRtau16 (talk) 09:55, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- I will send his name by email if you dont mind. He doesnt study journalism but computer science.--Arorae (talk) 10:00, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Arorae: sure :-) KRtau16 (talk) 10:03, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- mail sent to you. Tekeraoi am bong,--Arorae (talk) 19:32, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Arorae: sure :-) KRtau16 (talk) 10:03, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- I will send his name by email if you dont mind. He doesnt study journalism but computer science.--Arorae (talk) 10:00, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Arorae: Oh wow, good to know. There are a lot of Kiribati students here. So great to see them in huge numbers. KRtau16 (talk) 09:55, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- I will visit soon my son that studies at USP too and starts on Monday. Perhaps he knows you (he is I-Kiribati too). Don't worry, your contributions will stay and will be improved, even if you are busy most of the time.--Arorae (talk) 09:42, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- mauri / do you receive my mail?
- I have started David Lambourne. But there is a lot to improve it.--Arorae (talk) 01:40, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Arorae: Mauri. Yes I did received your mail. Apologies for not replying back. Anyways, thank you for creating the article. I'll try to help and improve it. Cheers. KRtau16 (talk) 01:44, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Arorae: many of the contents in this article are from the 2022 Kiribati constitutional crisis. David Lambourne is notable as a result of a single event, therefore as per WP:PSEUDO: An article under the title of a person's name should substantially be a full and balanced biography of that person's public life. If the person is notable only in connection with a single event, and little or no other information is available to use in the writing of a balanced biography, that person should be covered in an article regarding the event, with the person's name as a redirect to the event article placing the information in context.
- There should be a full and biography life of David Lambourne such as his detailed tenure as Judge in Kiribati or others. If you could provide sources of his biography life, I would be happy to help (since I'm not really familiar with Lambourne). Ko rabwa and I hope you understand. KRtau16 (talk) 02:31, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- I am not familiar too. And there is no resume or CV of David Lambourne online, as also any general info about his life. It took me a lot just to find from which part of Australia he was and when he arrived in Kiribati as People's Lawyer (1995), 27 years ago. But of course, you are right, all the info is centered on the last 5 years, when he became a puisne judge (2018). In the career of judge, only the last functions are really relevant, not when he was only a magistrate. I also think that you have a very strict vision of SINGLEEVENT. First of all, it is not a single event, as his wife became essential to political life of Kiribati when she was appointed ambassador, then when she decided to leave Taneti's party in 2019, and because this judicial crisis started when he was stranded in Australia in 2020, just a few months before the election of his wife. So it is not only a single event but related events that you cannot comprehend without the whole picture of the crisis who started with Taiwan/China switch. There is a very interesting article but written in French. "Aux Kiribati, la crise constitutionnelle bat des records d’absurdité"--Arorae (talk) 12:57, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- The link is here: [1]. With Google Translation you could have an idea of its content.--Arorae (talk) 13:00, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- Here is the intro translated by me: "In the Republic of Kiribati, the president's vindictiveness against the leader of the opposition is leading the country into a constitutional crisis. The Kiribati Islands, a parliamentary republic grouping three equatorial archipelagos in the Pacific Ocean, independent from the United Kingdom since 1979, are sinking into a constitutional crisis worthy of the great hours of Monty Python. It has reached the stage where the separation of powers is no longer respected by its president and where the highest court in the country, the High Court of Justice (which fulfills both the roles of Supreme Court and Constitutional Council, to quote equivalents certainly approximate but better known in our latitudes) is disappearing, literally. If you love stories of betrayal, denial, revenge, and abuse of power, then here's a tale you should enjoy." (I underlined some words).--Arorae (talk) 13:04, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Arorae: Mauri. I initially thought that the 2022 Kiribati constitutional crisis was a single event. Thank you for clarifying on that. Nevertheless, about the article in French, it is indeed interesting that the constitutional crisis dates back to the Taiwan/China switch. I hope there are more reliable sources out there about Lambourne's biography though. I understand how hard and frustrating it can be to look for such sources. KRtau16 (talk) 00:56, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- Statement by the OB (Office of te Beretitenti) published before the sitting of Kiribati Court of Appeal on Friday 19 August 2022, another breach in the Separation of powers: "Ana kaotioti ami Tautaeka imatan te Boowi ni Manga Tang ibukin ana keti David Lambourne are e ongoraeaki n te bong aio Kanimabong 19 n Aokati 2022."
- @Arorae: Mauri. I initially thought that the 2022 Kiribati constitutional crisis was a single event. Thank you for clarifying on that. Nevertheless, about the article in French, it is indeed interesting that the constitutional crisis dates back to the Taiwan/China switch. I hope there are more reliable sources out there about Lambourne's biography though. I understand how hard and frustrating it can be to look for such sources. KRtau16 (talk) 00:56, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- Here is the intro translated by me: "In the Republic of Kiribati, the president's vindictiveness against the leader of the opposition is leading the country into a constitutional crisis. The Kiribati Islands, a parliamentary republic grouping three equatorial archipelagos in the Pacific Ocean, independent from the United Kingdom since 1979, are sinking into a constitutional crisis worthy of the great hours of Monty Python. It has reached the stage where the separation of powers is no longer respected by its president and where the highest court in the country, the High Court of Justice (which fulfills both the roles of Supreme Court and Constitutional Council, to quote equivalents certainly approximate but better known in our latitudes) is disappearing, literally. If you love stories of betrayal, denial, revenge, and abuse of power, then here's a tale you should enjoy." (I underlined some words).--Arorae (talk) 13:04, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- (Bairiki, Tarawa Kanimabong, 19 n Aokati 2022)
"Government position on the Motion by David Lambourne before the Court of Appeal sitting on Friday 19th August 2022."
"The Government of Kiribati jealously guards the independence of the judiciary and is consistent with the principle that “no one is above the law, especially the judiciary."
"The Government believes that David Lambourne as a former judge and as an officer of the court, betrayed his Oath of office and the honest men and women of the honorable judiciary when he created a scheme to violate both Kiribati’s Constitution and to raid her national treasury by demanding to be paid-for-life as an illegal judge-for-life, a position alien to the Constitution and every nation within the Commonwealth, including the United Kingdom, Australia and New Zealand." [false: in many Commonwealth states, there are lifetime judges]
"David made it clear that when he was appointed in 2018 that he was “aware that all previous appointments to the High Court had been for a fixed term” he went on to further admit that “those fixed term appointments were for both Kiribati citizens and foreigners appointed as Kiribati Judges. David’s continued insistence to have a life-time contract has no basis and is an unconstitutional attempt to profit by getting paid and supported for life from the Government of Kiribati public funds."
"The Government of Kiribati had made many attempts and will continue to correct this fraudulent scheme by David including the now suspended CJ’s biased judgments in 2021 in support of David’s efforts to illegally secure a life-time appointment as Judge in Kiribati."
"This is a clear last chance by the Judiciary to restore law and order in Kiribati, and the Government of Kiribati entrusts the Court of Appeal to see this case in a balance way and cease any attempt to alter the constitutional power sharing in Kiribati by reducing the Executive’s powers. The Court must correct itself if the rule of law is to deliver impartial justice as a predicate for meritocracy and democracy and stop the continued attempt to use court orders as a weapon to deny natural justice to the people of Kiribati." (OB).
As says the French newspaper, "betrayal, denial, revenge, and abuse of power". OB statement is very dangerous. I kananokawaki.--Arorae (talk) 02:06, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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I'll try to look for more reliable sources and improve it there. Happy editing. KRtau16 (talk) 21:06, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
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- @SunDawn: Likewise. Thank you for reviewing it. KRtau16 (talk) 20:44, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
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Gilbertese project
Hi! I've seen in your user page that you speak Gilbertese. I would like to ask you whether you could possible help out developing the Wikipedia in that language. --Caro de Segeda (talk) 07:24, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Caro de Segeda: Yes I do speak Gilbertese but with a Banaban dialect practiced by most from Rabi Island, Fiji. I only know the basics i.e words used in everyday conversations, however I'm totally lost with the big words. We hardly use em anyways :-) KRtau16 (talk) 08:12, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- I see. Would it be possible for you to translate simple sentences about everyday life items like food or clothes? Maybe from the Simple English Wikipedia? Caro de Segeda (talk) 08:15, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Caro de Segeda: Surely can help with that. I'll see what I can do. KRtau16 (talk) 08:26, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks :) Caro de Segeda (talk) 09:00, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Caro de Segeda: Surely can help with that. I'll see what I can do. KRtau16 (talk) 08:26, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- I see. Would it be possible for you to translate simple sentences about everyday life items like food or clothes? Maybe from the Simple English Wikipedia? Caro de Segeda (talk) 08:15, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
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