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Tailings

Hi, thanks for fixing cailings in Hatti Gold Mines. Did you find the error by following templates from "Fix a typo in one click"? (In which case I won't ask about asier in Evil Ernie.)‎

By the way, do you have any ideas for "Drag reiss" in International Workers and Amateurs in Sports Confederation, which I removed rather than templating it? TSventon (talk) 11:22, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

@TSventon: No, I had Hatti Gold Mines on my watchlist - though I can't remember why I started watching it originally. I can't immediately solve "asier" or "Drag reiss", sorry. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:47, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Do projects like "Fix a typo in one click" affect your work much? There doesn't seem to be a shortage of typos yet. TSventon (talk) 14:05, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

@TSventon: No. I work through the common misspellings every two years or so, I have my own list of over 4,000 Find+Replace rules, and a "to do" list of odd misspellings that I happen to notice. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:31, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:47, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Cheb Nasro

Hi, I added links about the birthday of Cheb Nasro, he is realy born on 1969. if you go to his official facebook page [1], you will see that on 1988, he was 18th years old. Best regards. --Fayçal.09 (talk) 13:40, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

@Faycal.09: OK, thank you for adding sources. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:46, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

John from Reading

Except to hear from Chris’s lawyer. You don’t have a right to remove his bio HE IS THE SOURCE! Flamingroovies1965 (talk) 18:11, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

I'm confused - what article is this about? If this is about the article Flamin' Groovies, its history shows that I have never edited that page. Meanwhile, I refer you to the Wikipedia policy on legal threats. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:27, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you John of Reading

On a milder note, thank you, John, for spotting this this. 86.140.161.248 (talk) 15:33, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

It takes some heavyweight search tools to find those! -- John of Reading (talk) 15:38, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks John! If you'd care to run a scan of MIS-C, you may well find more chaff for your rock (and any other fixes or hints gratefully received :-) Cheers, 86.140.161.248 (talk) 16:01, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Done I spotted only one real spelling error, though both my rules and the built-in AWB rules found some other stuff to change. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:18, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much John! I owe you a drink one day... 86.140.161.248 (talk) 17:40, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Danielewicz

Hi. Please do not make any action on redirecting Danielewicz to Danielewicz family as this is not correct. I will report action of moving the art. as it was done without any communication with the author. Please await conclusions. It is not correct to redirect to Danielewicz family as it is missleading. There is no one family with this surname but many. Mind the WP:3RR rules Camdan (talk) 10:31, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@Camdan: There is no need to notify everyone who has edited the article. My only edit, I think, was to add a missing space. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:32, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

In the notification, it say that you reverted. Never mind, sorry if what i wrote was mistake. I think that if anyone wish to redirect art., one should notify the author of the art. Asking people to behave in polite way and cooperate is not much to ask. Camdan (talk) 11:45, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Opinion if you have time or even inclined

Help talk:Contents#Small addition.---Moxy 🍁 05:22, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Removal of Links!

Hello John,

I would like to tell about External Link added by me on [[2]] . I have added that page as a kind of Summary where students can read in simple words or can read a sort of summary of wikipedia article.

Most of the students motive once they find article or lesson which are lengthy but takes time.

Would you like to tell me where I can add extenal links(informative content)?

Shahab — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shahabuddinwp (talk • contribs) 17:16, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

@Shahabuddinwp: The Wikipedia guideline on external links is at Wikipedia:External links; it is more restrictive than many editors realise. The links you added lead to a site that contains adverts, so someone is hoping to make money out of that site. Since all your edits at Wikipedia have added links to that same site, I suspect the site is your own. If that is the case, then by adding the links here you are trying to make money out of Wikipedia, and that is a clear conflict of interest. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:34, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Need some help

Hey John I hope you are doing great. I needed some help in adjusting the barnstar. I want barnstar to be displayed below the commons image which you had adjusted as you can see on my user page. Can you please fix it for me? Thanks.LearnIndology (talk) 15:43, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

I added a {{clear}} -- John of Reading (talk) 15:45, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Thank you for helping me again! LearnIndology (talk) 15:47, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Awkward

Hey John, I hope you are having a good time. I know it's awkward but I need some little help again. Please check my user page, you will see a userbox which is a little imbalanced. Can you please fix it? Thanks! LearnIndology (talk) 22:24, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Done -- John of Reading (talk) 06:03, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

So how do I register on Project Islam?

John, how do I become a member of that group which you gave me?

Also, is that group which you gave me created by a Muslim organization? if no then by who? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex Abood (talk • contribs) 09:42, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

@Alex Abood: Over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Islam one of the tabs is labelled "members". If you click that, you go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Islam/Members, where, if you wish, you can add yourself to the "List of active members". The project is run by Wikipedia editors for Wikipedia editors, those who are most interested in improving the encyclopedia's coverage of this topic. These editors may or may not be Muslims. The history of the page shows it was created in 2003 by an anonymous editor. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:27, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for fixing typos on Wikipedia! HeyItsFedor (talk) 13:04, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

@HeyItsFedor: Thank you for the barnstar! -- John of Reading (talk) 13:05, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

AWB question

AWB will change a tag from "Unreferenced" to "Refimprove" if it sees there is at least one reference. But on a re-parse, it changes "Refimprove" to "More citations needed". So where do I report this? It's not a problem with the core software. Does this fall under a "typo" or something else? Thanks. MB 21:06, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

@MB: This is logged as phab:T185676. @Rjwilmsi: Did I log this correctly? -- John of Reading (talk) 06:28, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

The phab ticket says you reported this in Jan 2018 and it was fixed today? So it sat around unresolved for 2.5 years and then got fixed immediately after your ping to Rjwilmsi? Am I following this correctly? And it was a coincidence that I asked the person who already reported this where to report it? MB 14:28, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

@MB: Yes to all those points. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:24, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Infobox image syntax

Just noticed you wrote Help:Infobox picture. Maybe you are interested in commenting at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_October_5#Category:Pages_using_deprecated_image_syntax.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MB (talk • contribs) 14:33, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

@MB: I was involved in the creation of a different category, Category:Pages using infoboxes with thumbnail images, and did some work on removing several thousand articles from that one - see User:John of Reading/AWB settings/Pages using infoboxes with thumbnail images. Those pages display an image within an unnecessary extra frame, often off-centre within the infobox.

I wasn't involved in the creation of Category:Pages using deprecated image syntax. I never understood why the old syntax was deprecated, in those cases where the image was displayed correctly. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:35, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

AWB question II

First, do you mind me asking here instead of at the AWB talk page. You seem to have so much experience/knowledge with AWB and that talk page seems to be geared to bigger issues. I just saw an article with {{italic title}} down at the bottom near the categories and AWB did not move it up to the top where it normally is.

I haven't found any documentation that says it SHOULD be near the top, but it usually is. At {{Use dmy dates}}, it says "The template should be inserted in one of the first few lines of code of an article (to improve performance)." Any idea if this applies also? Even if it doesn't, should it be put near the top because that is standard convention and should AWB move it there? MB 14:52, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@MB: Yes, you can ask here if you wish. However, I don't have a copy of the source code, so I can't tell you how the program really works. And I do watch the AWB talk pages. Up to you!

I can think of two reasons for AWB not moving the {{italic title}} template to the top. First, the template documentation states If you are still having problems, try putting {{italic title}} after the infobox, so there must be articles out there that would be broken if the template were moved to the top. Second, "the top" is defined by MOS:ORDER, and the AWB developers rely on the consensus there to tell them how to sort the templates and things at the top of an article. Date-formatting templates such as {{Use dmy dates}} are listed there; DISPLAYTITLE and its variants are not. There's a discussion about this at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Layout#DISPLAYTITLE. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:38, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

I was unaware of that discussion. I have some MOS pages on my watchlist, but not layout. (and I don't read everything I watch to leave time for content work!) It looks like there will be an easy answer if that discussion reaches consensus to specify a location in MOS:ORDER. Thanks. MB 15:49, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Don't get to excited, even after consensus is reached on MOS:ORDER it could be a year or two until AWB gets a release update. An issue with AWB ordering(MOS:ORDER) was reported here, nearly a year ago. Sun Creator^(talk) 17:51, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I'm not holding my breath on that one. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:53, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Undone

Hi John! I've had to undo this automated edit [3] which broke the table in the article. Just thought I'd let you know. ◦ Trey Maturin 17:41, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Trey Maturin: Thanks! I saw the notification and am looking into it. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:43, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Trey Maturin: (More) One of the AWB configuration pages has been wrong for a year, sadly. Thank you for catching this bad edit. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:53, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Quick Question - Delete after

On the Anthony of Padua article, would there be any objection to me adding a section regarding his relics? I wrote an essay about them for a masters project and I thought it might add some content. SZRMedieval (talk) 11:17, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

I think the usual procedure would be for you to add the new material and see if anyone objects. If anyone does, then begin a discussion on the article talk page. Be sure to cite the published sources that you found when writing your essay, not your essay itself; and be sure to include only the material that comes from those sources, and not any new ideas that are only in your essay. (I've included links to some guidance notes in this reply) -- John of Reading (talk) 11:23, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Latin Music in Canada Reverts

Hello. I must apologize in advanced as I am still becoming acquainted with the Wiki platform. I noticed you reverted some significant latin canadian acts that I had added to the article. It appears that the reason was that it lacked an article? Would you be kind enough to clarify to me. I am quite familiar with the canadian latino arts & entertainment sector as I have been following it for the past 35 years. If the reason was pertaining to the artist not having a Wikipedia article, there is 2 other acts on that list with no article; Salseros with Attitude & Ricky Franco — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexanderBarrio (talk • contribs) 05:07, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

@AlexanderBarrio: If you look at the article history, you'll see that your edit was undone by a different editor, Atlantic306. My edit, on 21 October, merely fixed a grammar error. But, yes, the usual rule for lists like that one is to avoid adding red links; there's an essay about that at Wikipedia:Write the article first. I've removed the other two red links from the list. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:54, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. Like I mentioned, I’m still new to this platform and would like to learn more and improve. Thank you 174.91.68.200 (talk) 16:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Regional English

Hi John of Reading!, I noticed you changed "amoung" to "among" on A Course of Modern Analysis I accidently reverted without an explanation and wanted to let you know that, because the author is English, the page uses British English rather than American, so some words are different. Thanks! Footlessmouse (talk) 15:47, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

@Footlessmouse: I am pretty sure that "amoung" is incorrect; I am in Reading, England and speak British English. "amoung" is at best an archaic spelling, according to Wiktionary. Compare this list of US and UK dictionaries that define "among" with this rather short list of dictionaries that define "amoung" - and the page at Wordnik says it gets its definition from Wiktionary. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:15, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Wow, thank you! I read it in that form in his old book (over a hundred years old) and never questioned the spelling. I appreciate you letting me know, it can be fixed, then. Sorry about that. Footlessmouse (talk) 17:20, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Another AWB question

In this edit, AWB added Category:1943 births (I had added a birth date template in a prior manual edit). My question is, shouldn't AWB remove Category:Date of birth missing (living people)? I think I have seen it do so on other occasions. I have also done another pass with AWB and it made no changes the second time. MB 02:36, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@MB: According to the GF documentation, AWB will remove Category:Date of birth missing (living people) if it finds a full date of birth in a {{Birth date and age}}. This article uses a different template {{Birth-date and age}} [note the extra hyphen], which AWB may never have been taught to decode. I'd need to download and explore the logic in the source code to answer this one properly. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:46, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

I usually use the hyphenated template because it accepts a more flexible form of input. But it accepts year, or year & month, or year, month & day. So AWB would have to parse the parameters to see if there was a full dob. That may be the reason. MB 15:07, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@MB: OK, I've downloaded the source code. Yes, it doesn't handle {{Birth-date and age}}, and it added Category:1943 births by looking at the start of the article text, picking out born: ... 1943 from the first line. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:29, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

That's interesting, I always assumed it added the birth year category based on there being a template in the infobox. I guess looking in the text allows it to find a birth date when there is no infobox. So that begs the question, why does it use the {{Birth date and age}} to decide when to remove Category:Date of birth missing (living people) - why not use the birth date in the text also? MB 18:02, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@MB: I guess that's because no one has got round to writing the extra code! Yes, born: 12 March 1943 and {{birth-date and age|12 March 1943}} could both be caught fairly reliably. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:26, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

It is reasonable to open a Phab ticket asking for such improvements? The documentation also says that it "Changes {{Uncategorised}} to {{Cat improve}} if categories added." But if there are no categories and no Uncategorized tag and it adds "yearxxxx births" and "living people", it neglects to add {{Cat improve}}. MB 04:31, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

@MB: Yes, both of those could be logged as enhancements on Phab. But remember that the AWB developers are volunteers like the rest of us. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:22, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

T268395 and T268396 created. MB 05:01, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Now a typo question involving dashes. In Boeing KC-135 Stratotanker, it suggested this change:

-Given the Boeing model numbers 717-100A, 717-146 and 717-148.
+Given the Boeing model numbers 717-100A, 717-146 and 717–148.

I've figured out that it changed the dash only on the last one because of the period. These obviously should all be the same, so I have just skipped this. I know very little regex, so need to pass this on to someone. Should I just post this on the typo page?

@MB: This is an incorrect change, I think, and you were right to skip it. The WP:AWB/T rule involved is the one named word="2–1", and it tries to identify ranges of numbers N-M and change the hyphen to an ndash (MOS:NUMRANGE). Presumably there are lots of false matches, so the rule has been coded to fire only when there's punctuation or a newline immediately afterwards. Then, someone tried to an exception for "Boeing 123-456"; if the previous word is "Boeing", the rule doesn't fire, since these are two-part model numbers, not number ranges. In your example, a human editor can see that these are Boeing model numbers, but the regular expression isn't clever enough.

This is one of the reasons I keep WP:AWB/T turned off most of the time. I am not a hyphenation expert, and in the diff window a hyphen and an endash look exactly the same to me, so I am not able to check the edit when this rule fires. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the explanation. I've learned to watch typo changes very carefully and skip if in doubt. MB 16:46, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Guillermo de Cun

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Thank you, but my only input into that article was to fix a grammar error, ten years ago. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:26, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

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I am Peter Evans

Please do not make unnecessary changes to my wikipedia page. I am trying to correct misinformation. I intend to make the updates and explained myself — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.255.67.177 (talk) 17:38, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

If you are who you allege, then this is a conflict of interest and you should not be editing the article. Your additions were unsourced — Wikipedia has a policy on no original research, so please support all of your additions with reliable sources. — Twassman [Talk·Contribs] 17:44, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Solid WP mentor

		The Friendship Barnstar
		Thanks for your many kindnesses over the years. You've greatly added to my experience here. Cheers! --LilHelpa (talk) 14:28, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

@LilHelpa: Thank you! Is it too early to wish you a merry Christmas? -- John of Reading (talk) 15:57, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Never, good sir! May yours warmly touch your soul as well. --LilHelpa (talk) 16:02, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Haje Jan Kamps's article

Hello.

I have proofread the article for Haje Jan Kamps. Please, give it a look. I removed many phrases that had a promotional tone and added new relevant sources of information.

--QuinteroP (talk) 21:13, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes, that's improved it. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:43, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Saw you on tv yesterday

more four ... Black death ... cheers ... 46.69.62.56 (talk) 16:48, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

How curious - me, or my namesake? Can you post a link? -- John of Reading (talk) 17:03, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

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@Bearian: Thank you, but my only input into that article was to fix a spelling error, seven years ago. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:15, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

We wish you a Merry Christmas,

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And a Happy New Year!

May your holidays be filled with peace and joy. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! LearnIndology (talk) 16:24, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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@LearnIndology: Thank you! Blessings upon you and yours. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:29, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Elio Deejay's article!

Hey!

I have created a new article for Elio Deejay , please help me reviewing it! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xhoel.m (talk • contribs) 12:57, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

@Xhoel.m: Sorry, despite editing here for over ten years, I am not confident in reviewing articles. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:27, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

@John of Reading: Who can i contact to ask for review? Ps. can you tell me if the article is good enough or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xhoel.m (talk • contribs) 12:45, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

@Xhoel.m: The usual advice given at the help desk is that you should be patient; as the box at the bottom of Draft:Elio Deejay says, "Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 3 months or more". And the question is not whether the article is good enough, but whether the sources you've added are enough to show that this DJ has received "significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject" -- John of Reading (talk) 13:00, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

^{Walter Elmer Schofield, Across the River (1904), Carnegie Museum of Art.}		Best wishes for a safe, healthy and prosperous 2021.
		Thank you for your contributions toward making Wikipedia a better and more accurate place. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 15:10, 26 December 2020 (UTC) Oneupsmanship: This painting turned the friendly rivalry between Edward Redfield and Elmer Schofield into a feud. Schofield was a frequent houseguest at Redfield's farm, upstream from New Hope, Pennsylvania, and the two would go out painting together, competing to capture the better view. Redfield served on the jury for the 1904 Annual Exhibition of the Carnegie Institute; at which, despite Redfield's opposition, Across the River was awarded the Gold Medal and $1,500 prize. It was not until a 1963 interview that the 93-year-old Redfield revealed the painting as the cause of the 40-year feud between them. Schofield may have painted it in England, but a blindsided Redfield knew that this was a view of the Delaware River, from his own front yard!

@BoringHistoryGuy: Thank you for the reminder that history doesn't have to be boring! -- John of Reading (talk) 15:57, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes, but I might be. It's too good a story not to share. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 16:00, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Translation

Hi. When you edited article Blokovi, you translated "Zelenilo" to "Greenery" in reference's translated title of the source article. Since it is name of the public (city owned) company, I left it non-translated, especially since it was in the reference and not in the article. Given the subjects I am working on, names of communal companies appeared, and will appear often, so for the future reference, should I translate names of those companies or not? Or to keep names but to indicate that they are companies? Some names are combinations which are never used even in Serbian language (for example, city rivers are handled by the company "Beogradvode", or literally "Belgradewaters"). Btw, the translation you used is grammatically correct :) Take care. PajaBG (talk) 21:14, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

@PajaBG: I didn't realise that "Zelenilo" was the name of a company, and should not have translated it. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:57, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. No problem, no harm done. PajaBG (talk) 22:12, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

wmflabs.org

Use the link to request opening an account. Ipv6 is a really big number.

https://accounts.wmflabs.org/

😊 Happy New Year 2021! ChrissyPhotosOfficial (talk) 15:13, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

@ChrissyPhotosOfficial: Thank you, but why do you think I need a WMF Labs account? -- John of Reading (talk) 15:22, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

You don't. It took me six months to join this site because I am using a cell phone by T-Mobile. ChrissyPhotosOfficial (talk) 15:24, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Help Desk

Thanks! Spicemix (talk) 20:58, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Mughal Karkhanas

Sir, Kindly help me in copy edit for the subject.Thanks and best regards RV (talk) 08:06, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

@RAJIVVASUDEV: I've run my usual spelling and grammar checkers on the text. Can you check one of the quotes against the book source? I've marked it with a {{clarify}}. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:27, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt response. Further, I shall try to fix it. Best regards RV (talk) 10:05, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

I have provided another source. Because the quote is a part of the reference hence allow me to remove. Thanks and regards RV (talk) 10:14, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Sharecare article assistance

Hi John of Reading. I work with Sharecare and am helping flag appropriate updates to the article (reaching out instead of making the edit myself per Wikipedia Terms of Use & conflict of interest rules). Do you have a moment to review my request at Talk:Sharecare? It remains unanswered, though I included the edit request template and have posted to a few relevant WikiProjects.

I noticed you're among previous contributors to the article, so I thought this could be of interest to you. Any feedback would be welcome, and thanks for any consideration. Thanks! SCbhaynes (talk) 16:54, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@SCbhaynes: I'm sorry, I rarely make substantial changes to articles, because I don't trust my judgement. My edits to this article were both very small, one a technical fix and one a spelling correction. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:17, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

I understand, John. Thanks for the feedback here -- it's still more than appreciated. Be well!SCbhaynes (talk) 23:00, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Rampal

Thanks for fixing my error here. Cheers. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 12:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Question

Hi, at WP:NOTPEOPLE you removed three of the four search tools from the "External links" section with the edit summary; "Four near-identical tools? Removed three, leaving only the one used in the Special:Contributions footer)". I can see where you (or anyone) could have the initial reaction that four is excessive, but it's actually practical to have alternate sites available, as sometimes one or two of them will be down for one reason or another. I've run into this myself actually, which is why I'm writing to ask you to restore those links. Thanks - wolf 09:19, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Done -- John of Reading (talk) 09:25, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks John - wolf 09:26, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

User:John of Reading/Typo fixing with AutoWikiBrowser

followup > followup-up (adjective) - About 500 of these

I hope this is a typo. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:16, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: Fortunately, yes! My January 2013 edits confirm it. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:23, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Lancaster Gazetter

Re this edit, whilst the fixing of my typos is appreciated, please do not chang the name of the Lancaster Gazetter to that on a non-existant newspaper. Mjroots (talk) 17:10, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mjroots: My apologies, I clearly didn't check that edit well enough. I think for the "Lancaster Gazetter" the correct fix should have been to "Lancaster Gazette", as shown at britishnewspaperarchive, though without a subscription I can't read anything except the newspaper title. For "Daily Gazetter for Middlesbrough", britishnewspaperarchive only mentions a "Daily Gazette for Middlesbrough". "Gazetter" would have been an unusual spelling, as the word is not listed in any major dictionary. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:03, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

It's what comes up at the British Library Newspaper Archive. Was the Lancaster Gazette originally, but seems to have changed its name at some point to Lancaster Gazetter. Agree that Daily Gazette for Middlesbrough is correct. Mjroots (talk) 18:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

"TimedText:Neeraj dulare" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect TimedText:Neeraj dulare. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 February 3#TimedText:Neeraj dulare until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:32, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Regex help in AWB

Hi, I am trying to change "map_locator ={{Infobox mapframe|zoom=14}}" to "mapframe=yes|mapframe-zoom=14"

I have find=

map_locator\s*=\s*{{Infobox mapframe|zoom=14}}

replace with=

mapframe=yes|mapframe-zoom=14

The find part is working, but the replace is duplicated:

mapframe=yes|mapframe-zoom=14|mapframe=yes|mapframe-zoom=14

What is causing this? MB 20:26, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@MB: In the find part, the pipe character needs to be preceded with a backslash, \|. Without it, the pipe character is acting as a logical "or". You are asking it to find the string map_locator\s*=\s*{{Infobox mapframe or the string zoom=14}}, and it finds both of those and replaces each one with your "replace" string. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, that certainly did it. Thanks. MB 20:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Special:Search/"rather then"

Hello, would you mind looking through these? Thanks, 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: OK, I'll give that a try. I've just finished my current spelling list. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: Fixed a few, but left some quotes unchanged where the source is incorrect or inaccessible. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:23, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 18:33, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Category:Houses in in Winneshiek County, Iowa has been nominated for discussion

Category:Houses in in Winneshiek County, Iowa has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Regards, SONIC⁶⁷⁸ 17:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Redirect question

Here is something minor but still unclear to me.

Miguel Hidalgo y Costillа is a redirect to:

Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla

The both look identical to me, but I finally figured out that the last character is not a normal "a", although it displays as one (at least on my browser). Can you shed any more light on this. Is this a valid redirect because it is plausible (for somebody, maybe with a different character set enabled)? If so, I want to tag the redirect with some Rcat (like R to ASCII-only) to clarify the situation - it really confused me at first. MB 04:46, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@MB: This Unicode code converter is good for cases like these. It confirms that the last "a" is Unicode character U+0430, lowercase A (Cyrillic). Since the article is about a Spanish person, I can't see any use for the redirect. Looking at Special:Contributions/Rahib7777, I'd even call it vandalism - I just reverted this edit by the same editor, which broke a reference URL by replacing an "e" with another Unicode lookalike. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:55, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@Liz: Since you declined the speedy deletion, could you have another look at this? I've also requested speedy deletion of two other redirects created by this editor: Minecrаft and Peninsulаrs. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:07, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

OK, that converter tool looks better than the one I used, I'll bookmark it for future use. If you saw the edit history, I CSD'ed it once already as I see you have done to the others, but it was declined (with no reason given). I'll nominate it again. Thanks. MB 14:11, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

It's a Scream!

Hi John -

I noticed you posted a tiny image of "The Scream" by Edvard Munch on your User page. Thought you's appreciate this, found on another talk page:

I...You...We all...For...

--Lord Such&Such (talk) 15:31, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Lord Such&Such:And there's a fine selection of images on your user page! -- John of Reading (talk) 17:54, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Appreciation

Dear John,

Appreciate your explanation in comment!

Blessings,

Yaakov W. Yaakov Wa. (talk) 17:54, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Location where this person was last seen

Hi John, Do you know where this person Jacques Vergès disappeared from and was last seen before turning up many years later? I need this information so I can add a category to his article. Davidgoodheart (talk) 06:35, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

@Davidgoodheart: No, this was just one of the thousands of articles in which I fixed a spelling mistake. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:15, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Do you know anyone who might know the answer to this? Davidgoodheart (talk) 17:18, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

@Davidgoodheart: Looking at the article history, A.S. Brown (talk · contribs) has been adding to the article for years, so may know where to look for sources. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:25, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

@Davidgoodheart: Thank you John for mentioning me. I'm very flattened. David, this is tricky because it is hard to very reliable sources about M. Vergès and where he was from 1970 to 1978. The documentary Hotel Terminus interviewed a number of people who knew Vergès and as well Vergès himself, and it is mentioned that he was either in Lebanon or in Switzerland. Vergès was close to a wealthy Swiss financer, François Genoud, who was very active in supporting far-right causes and seems to paid Vergès's legal bills when he defended Klaus Barbie in 1987. I don't know if that qualifies as a RS. Sadly, the university liberies are closed, so I cannot access them at present. In February 1970, he left for France for Spain, and then vanished. On page 120 of The The Costliest Pearl China's Struggle for India's Ocean by Bertil Lintner, London: Hurst, says that the most people that Vergès was either in Cambodia (he attended university with Pol Pot in the 1950s) or in Lebanon. This article Against the Law by Stephanie Giry states that went to to China and that he worked alongside the terrorist Carlos the Jackal. All that can said for certain is that Vergès was last seen in Paris in February 1970. You can use the article as a source for that statement. I've see if I find more sources, but unfortunately I don't think there is a definite RS saying precisely where he was and what he was doing. Best wishes and Happy Easter! --A.S. Brown (talk) 20:29, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the correction of the typo on the Mark Aguhar page, not sure how it was there for so long! Good work in catching it. Jooojay (talk) 16:15, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes!

Re: this edit... Archaeology. Shearonink (talk) 17:05, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi

Hi John how are you? I hope you are having a great time. I hope you remember me[4][5]. I needed some help regarding adjusting tables. I was editing Draft:Warina Hussain and I am unable to adjust the table in the Filmography section. What I basically wanted to do is to adjust the 6 songs in one section of the year 2018. Can you please help? I will list the name of music videos which I want to add in the section of year 2018.

Akh Lad Jave
Tera Hua
Rangtaari
Dholida
Love will take over
She move it like

Thanks! LearnIndology (talk) 13:34, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

@LearnIndology: I'm well, thanks. I've made an edit to the draft - is that what you wanted? I've made various other changes too. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:31, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, thanks a lot. You are a life saviour. LearnIndology (talk) 14:39, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Thank you for helping. You deserve this:) LearnIndology (talk) 14:41, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --182.1.214.87 (talk) 23:39, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

This message seems to be misplaced. To contest the speedy deletion of a page, place your reasoning on the talk page of the page concerned. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:58, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

The message was left by a long-term abuser that now is harassing admins. I'd recommend denying any similar incident performed by Indonesian users. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 17:13, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

AWB ref merge

In Neelix, refs 1-4 are identical yet AWB isn't combining them. Any reason that you know of? This is not a case involving templates. MB 22:59, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

@MB: It's because none of the references have names. Adding the first reference name to an article is a change of referencing style, and therefore an editorial decision that cannot be made automatically by a tool - can you imagine the amount of talk page discussion that resulted in that software change? To get AWB to merge the references, click in the AWB edit window and add a name to one of the duplicates, and then right-click in that window and select "Re-parse (F5)". -- John of Reading (talk) 07:46, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I didn't realize that this would be a change in ref style - it's not switching to Harvard or parenthetical for example. But I'm sure this makes sense to someone more fluent in ref nuances. Thanks for the answer. MB 13:29, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Have a very happy birthday on your special day!

Best wishes, CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 04:36, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

@CAPTAIN RAJU: Thank you! It's a big round number today... -- John of Reading (talk) 08:15, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Re/your message.

Hi, I hope I’m doing this right. I didn’t edit or even visit the page that you said I edited. Maybe it was someone else that did it? I don’t know how IP adresses really work. I feel like what I’m saying is coming off kind of hostile but I don’t mean it that way.

Sorry for bothering you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:B81B:6EBF:AC7B:90D1:D080:C946 (talk) 21:20, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, IP addresses are often re-allocated by the internet service providers. If you've seen a message from me that doesn't apply to you, please ignore it! If this is happening frequently or is bothering you, you can stop it happening by logging in with a user name - see Wikipedia:Why create an account? for more on this. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:50, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Lake Arrowhead, Lathrop, Missouri

An article that you have been involved in editing—Lake Arrowhead, Lathrop, Missouri—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Ken Gallager (talk) 14:36, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

High heels

But @John of Reading I want extraordenaey heels ,drawing ,dresses Anonimiese (talk) 10:55, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

@Anonimiese: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so you are asking at the wrong website. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:45, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Intelligence+bureau+SouthAfrica

Do these men work state side as well as south Africa? Are there agencies all over America? Is there private sectors in Illinois? I'm asking because a man claims that this is all true Familia86 (talk) 21:00, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

@Familia86: I have no idea what you are asking about, or why you are asking me. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:59, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Greetings and an help for Alberto Magliozzi

Good morning to you, I am writing to greet you and to know how you are. I am quite well for now, I am writing to ask you for help with the page of Alberto Magliozzi, the much appreciated and respected glamor photographer. I wrote down a few lines, but I ask you for help if you can, right and no more than 10 minutes of your precious time. Looking forward to hearing from you I wish you a good day and a greeting from Calabria.--Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino (talk) 12:30, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:46, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Thank you for the reminder! -- John of Reading (talk) 11:47, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

very welcome, on my 12th anniversary here and a birthday, on DYK in a few minutes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:55, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you John

Couldn't figure out how to reply to your post so created a new one. I knew it was wrong when I saw it posted but am just floundering around. I've looked at the article on creating a new page but I'm gaining traction very slowly. Not even sure I can sign my name. Geeneeg (talk) 16:39, 30 July 2021 (UTC)geeneeg

@Geeneeg: Yes, there's a lot to learn. I got started by fixing a spelling mistake or two, and, ten years on, that's still my main activity. Have you seen the tutorials at Help:Introduction?

I've had a look at the draft article in your sandbox. That has a long way to go before it could be accepted as an encyclopedia article, as there are no references. Those are needed so that readers can check for themselves that what is written is true, and to demonstrate that other people, independent of the show, have already thought it is a subject worth writing about. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:23, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

You seem like a swell guy, I appreciate having a human connection out in cyberspace. THANK YOU. I am working on my new article and realize I have a lot to do still, but I wasn't sure how to save it so I published it in sandbox. Will be working on it more this week. I think I see now that those are one and the same. I have read through a lot of the very helpful Help pages, but I learn by doing and really just have to jump in and try. A little at a time, that's how I roll. Thank you for all of your years contributing. What a wonderful way to spend your time, and so rewarding. Happy Monday from smoky Idaho! --Geeneeg (talk) 15:21, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

There's so much to learn!

Hi John, I don't think creating a page is for a newbie like me. I can't even get past uploading an image and all of the copyright hoopla, let alone finding references for things on my page. I'm not sure how to even move forward - I'm overwhelmed and stressed. It's 5:00 somewhere, right? Thanks for listening. --Geeneeg (talk) 21:14, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

My talk page

Best regards John. I am requesting your help in archiving my discussion page. It is more than 7 years old (if it could be archived by year I would appreciate it very much). Thanks in advance for your time and help.Jairon Levid Abimael Caál Orozco (talk) 03:48, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

@Jairon Levid Abimael Caál Orozco: I've adapted one of the examples from Help:Archiving a talk page. Once the bot has turned up and created the sub-pages, I'll add an {{Archives}} template to display links to the archives. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:17, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

@Jairon Levid Abimael Caál Orozco: The bot has left the "Welcome" message behind. Would you like me to archive that for you? -- John of Reading (talk) 07:23, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

All your work is perfect. There is nothing to add. Sincerely, thank you very much for your help.--Jairon Levid Abimael Caál Orozco (talk) 09:37, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

AWB on short descriptions

I know that AWB typo fixing skips template parameters. However, I think is might be reasonable to make an exception for {{Short description}}. A short description is supposed to be plain text (no markup). Short descriptions on biographies often have birth-death dates per WP:SDDATES, and AWB could cleanup up the type of dash and the spacing around it. Do you think this is reasonable? If so, would the best place to get other opinions be the main AWB TP? MB 01:37, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

@MB: Yes, this would be useful. It's a special case of phab:T100732 which I logged in 2013. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:43, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

It sounds like you think this is non-controversial and doesn't need any discussion (it is just typo fixing that no one would question doing manually). Since it is not as complicated as the above situation (looking for a parameter within a template), I'll open a new phab for SD specifically. MB 00:51, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

I finally opened a request.

Do you know what is going on with dashes? Weren't there some fixes a few months ago? In this edit, it changed a dash to an endash in a year range (2020-2021), but left one alone right next to it (2019-2020). MB 20:37, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

@MB: This is the rule named "0–0" in WP:AWB/T - I worked this out by copying the relevant text into User:John of Reading/Sandbox, running AWB on it, and looking at the "Typos" tab at the bottom right of the AWB window. This rule tries very hard to make only MOS-compliant changes, but isn't clever enough to catch them all. Here, someone has worked out that "Y-Z academic" is almost certainly a year range and has coded the word "academic" into the rule. However, "the X-Y and Y-Z academic" has not been coded into the rule and is left unchanged. This is one of the reasons I keep regextypofix turned off nowadays, as I am not familiar with the dash rules and cannot tell the dashes apart in the diff window. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:59, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Editing

I noticed you edited my great grandsons Father's page Stanley Dye after my nana his daughter had edit it and you went and deleted it I'm just wondering why if anyone should be editing it it should be his kids as they know more info about there dad then anyone . 2605:8D80:503:AC3D:8156:57B6:6BDA:4A4A (talk) 19:56, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia only aims to summarise what has already been published in reliable sources such as books, newspapers, respected online news outlets, scientific journals, and so on. Each Wikipedia article should contain footnotes that explain where the information has come from, so that readers can check the information for themselves. Without sources, information at Wikipedia is pretty much worthless - for example, I found evidence of someone whose ten-year hobby was adding fake birth dates to Wikipedia biographies. The information that was added to the Stanley Dye article might well be correct, but there's no way for a reader to tell.

Further, a Wikipedia article should concentrate on its subject: for a politician, that would be the election results, posts occupied, political views held, and so on. Details of children and other descendants are less relevant. There's formal guidance on the suggested contents of the box at the top right of the article at Template:Infobox_person#Parameters. To quote, children ... Typically the number of children (e.g., 3); only list names of independently notable or particularly relevant children and relatives ... Names of siblings or other relatives; include only if independently notable and particularly relevant.

I hope this helps! -- John of Reading (talk) 09:17, 12 November 2021 (UTC)