User talk:John B123/Archive 27
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See Talk:Prostitution_in_Afghanistan#Wild_POV_pushing_by_User:John_B123. You started that nonsense again? You believe women are sold in Afghanistan? You believe prostitution is thriving there? This article is not a place where anyone can just anything they want. Only relevant content belongs there and there must be sufficient reliable sources to back up the claim.--39.41.79.238 (talk) 00:09, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- I haven't started anything, in fact I hadn't even edited the article since 20 March 2021 until you started POV pushing again and adding unsubstantiated claims such as The number of prostitutes in Afghanistan is relatively small. --John B123 (talk) 12:02, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Why do you get upset by that? When you compare Afghanistan with other countries, especially its neighboring countries, the number of prostitutes is relatively small in Afghanistan. There are many reasons for that and one of them is that it leads to death in Afghanistan, and nobody wants to die over such immaterial thing. Prostitution is not favored in Pakistan and Iran but it's openly everywhere. Nobody is denying or disputing this. In Central Asian states and in China, it's not only openly everywhere but also legal. It's always better to add accurate information in Wikipedia.--39.41.79.238 (talk) 23:16, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- About this, you actually believe that? Who is The Pakistan Frontier? If that had any truth it would've been openly talked about by all Afghans, especially the Taliban, and presented in every Afghan media outlet. This shows that you're here for other purposes than to improve the article.--39.41.79.238 (talk) 23:44, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- 39.41.79.238 I have reverted your large-scale removals of almost 1000 bytes from the article. If you have a problem with a specific source, like this one you've mentioned, the proper place for such a discussion is WP:Reliable Sources Noticeboard (WP:RSN). Buckshot06 (talk) 04:55, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Additional details about Afghan women being sex-traffic'ed to India are at https://www.newageislam.com/islam-women-feminism/syed-nazakat/human-trafficking-cattle-kabul/d/10419; State Department TIP report for 2020 says "Afghan men, women, and children pay intermediaries to assist them in finding employment abroad, primarily in Iran, Pakistan, and Europe; some intermediaries and employers force Afghans into labor or sex trafficking. Some Afghan women and girls who are sold to husbands in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, and India are exploited in sex trafficking and domestic servitude by their new husbands.." [1]; earlier TIP reports confirm such activities.
- Importantly, the 2008 IOM report specifically highlights how utterly taboo the subject actually is in Afghanistan: it is a subject of shame so great that even greatly abused victims prefer to keep it quiet: "It would, however, be wrong to conclude that women are not often trafficked or there are less cases of sexual exploitation in Afghanistan, given that a considerable number of women trafficked for the purpose of sexual exploitation have actually been referred to IOM Afghanistan. Instead, this could be explained by the social stigma attached to sexual exploitation, particularly concerning women, and people’s unwillingness to open up and discuss the issues with the outsiders. The extreme difficulty encountered by the survey team in identifying female trafficking cases has somehow confirmed the tendency of Afghan families to keep sexual abuse incidents undisclosed and unreported. With such constraints, one can conclude that it is impossible to obtain an accurate picture, let alone exact numbers, of trafficking cases in today’s Afghanistan." [2] (page 41). Buckshot06 (talk) 05:11, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Who are you? I wrote to John B123. The above references talk about women from China, Tajikistan, Pakistan, Iran and other places. Human trafficking does not always involve prostitution, and that human trafficking information is not contested. You have to find a reliable source for the 7,000 young Afghan girls in India. The Pakistani Frontier is obviously unreliable. Since you can't find any you're not allowed to put that propaganda in Wikipedia.--39.41.92.164 (talk) 20:42, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Who says The Pakistani Frontier is unreliable? --John B123 (talk) 20:48, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Who are you? I wrote to John B123. The above references talk about women from China, Tajikistan, Pakistan, Iran and other places. Human trafficking does not always involve prostitution, and that human trafficking information is not contested. You have to find a reliable source for the 7,000 young Afghan girls in India. The Pakistani Frontier is obviously unreliable. Since you can't find any you're not allowed to put that propaganda in Wikipedia.--39.41.92.164 (talk) 20:42, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- 39.41.79.238 I have reverted your large-scale removals of almost 1000 bytes from the article. If you have a problem with a specific source, like this one you've mentioned, the proper place for such a discussion is WP:Reliable Sources Noticeboard (WP:RSN). Buckshot06 (talk) 04:55, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Question
Hello, do you know what the purpose of this account is? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mohammad_Bilal.official-- Nasty bits (talk) 15:48, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Nasty bits, it looks like it's been deleted now. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 15:55, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar |
| You are an inspiration for many many. A barnstar for your work and contributions. RV (talk) 11:02, 24 August 2021 (UTC) |
- Hi RV, thanks, and thank you for all the articles you have created. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 15:20, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you so much and best regards. RV (talk) 02:09, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi! John Sir, Kindly review the Luster. Thanks and regards RV (talk) 11:10, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi RV, all done. Regards.
- Thank you so much and best regards. RV (talk) 02:10, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
HELP
St John's Church Thanks for your note. How should I request "help" = I have forgotten how - there is a way it should be done! However re St John's how should I enter a WWW site in this article please?Morton1945 (talk) 15:44, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Morton1945, the format for adding a website is {{cite web}}. If you let me know what site(s) you want to add, I can add them as a demo of how to do it. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 15:57, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. I entered "WWW St John's Malone, Connor.anglecan.org" - doubt if this is how it should be entered! See what I did: St John's Church.Malone.Morton1945 (talk) 16:19, 22 August 2021 (UTC) St John's Church Malone
- Hi Morton1945, have a look at the changes I've made to the article. If you look at them individually you should be able to see how the changes work. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 16:41, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Many Thanks - too much for m to read up and understand! Will return & study! Why the hell is this font so small?Morton1945 (talk) 19:35, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Morton1945, the font size is showing up normally for me. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 19:52, 24 August 2021 (UTC) Yes seems ok now - thanksMorton1945 (talk) 12:56, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello! John Sir, Kindly review the subject page. Thanks and regards. RV (talk) 14:49, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi RV, all done. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 16:33, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much and warm regards. RV (talk) 16:50, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Deletion Review for The Slink Management
Hello You recently tagged The Slink Management for speedy deletion.
The article in question wasn't created for any promotional reason I joined the Wikipedia community to improve articles in area of entertainment and music. Obus Siki (talk) 19:52, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Obus Siki, although it may not have been your intention it certainly came across as promotional. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 19:55, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi John B123, The article is not promotional The Slink Management cause I know the policy of the community and can't go against it. kindly remove the deletion tag so I can review it again and make amendments where necessary. Obus Siki (talk) 20:01, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Obus Siki, the article has already been deleted. You could ask the deleting admin, Materialscientist, if they would restore it so you could work on it. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 20:08, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi! John Sir, Kindly review the subject page. Thanks and regards.RV (talk) 06:04, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi RV, all done. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 07:39, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you so much and regards. RV (talk) 07:53, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Zembîlfiroş and Batel
Hi , I need your help , you can this articles , this user Mugsalot change every thing and change location in Zembîlfiroş . I see this is vandalism work , Please help me , I wait your answer , thank you Hamaredha (talk) 20:36, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Hamaredha, you need to discuss this with Mugsalot on the articles' talk pages. I do have to agree that {{infobox settlement}} is the wrong infobox to use on Zembîlfiroş. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 21:11, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- He have problem , he change every thing , you can see talk page . He do not have answer , he change answer , please see and some time he do not answer me and change article Hamaredha (talk) 21:15, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Morrison Lectures page
Hello, can you tell me what I should do to get the article set up properly so it doesn't need the reftag anymore? The list is derived from http://ciw.anu.edu.au/events/morrison-lectures#acton-tabs-link--qt-morrison_lectures_qtabs-ui-tabs2 which is cited, but it doesn't seem like one should cite it for every speaker, and not all the red names will have Wiki pages. Thanks! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Ernest_Morrison_Lecture_in_Ethnology#List_of_lectures Sheijiashaojun (talk) 20:28, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Sheijiashaojun, I've added the link as a reference to the whole list. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 20:43, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Much appreciated! Sheijiashaojun (talk) 22:08, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Wazobia FM Lagos
Good day John. Please check and help review Wazobia FM Lagos. Idoghor Melody (talk) 06:42, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
The review has been done by another page reviewer. Idoghor Melody (talk) 08:45, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello, JohnB123,
This draft popped up on the expiring drafts list but I delayed it with the thought that I would submit it to AFC. Then, I saw that you were the page creator and realized that you know more about creating articles than I do. I thought it was an interesting list though if you wanted to submit it to AFC or move it over to main space. Liz Read! Talk! 01:38, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Shouldn't this be Index of prostitute articles, or Index of prostitutes, thereby losing the double-plural 's'?--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 02:07, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, I try to avoid MOS discussions. Liz Read! Talk! 02:31, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Li and Rocknrollmancer: Thanks. Tbh, I created the article ages ago but wasn't happy enough with the title to move it to mainspace, and then after a while forgot about it. Index of prostitute articles sounds better. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 16:37, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- It reminded me of my brother commenting on something similar in the 1990s when I fell foul of a dodgy double glazing company (replacement windows) - he said it didn't make sense. Plastics Windows Federation, it was. They've dropped Federation in the current version; if you scroll to the bottom you'll see it with the double 's'. The window business was advertising 'insurance-backed guarantee', but I never received any paperwork (policy documents). It turned out they had massively mis-represented their turnover to get a favourable rate, and were issuing insurance details to only a percentage of customers. rgds,--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 23:31, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Rocknrollmancer, hope all is well with you. There were certainly some double glazing sharks about in the 90s. Often 'insurance-backed guarantees' have so much fine print that in practice they're worth nothing. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 13:29, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- It reminded me of my brother commenting on something similar in the 1990s when I fell foul of a dodgy double glazing company (replacement windows) - he said it didn't make sense. Plastics Windows Federation, it was. They've dropped Federation in the current version; if you scroll to the bottom you'll see it with the double 's'. The window business was advertising 'insurance-backed guarantee', but I never received any paperwork (policy documents). It turned out they had massively mis-represented their turnover to get a favourable rate, and were issuing insurance details to only a percentage of customers. rgds,--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 23:31, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Li and Rocknrollmancer: Thanks. Tbh, I created the article ages ago but wasn't happy enough with the title to move it to mainspace, and then after a while forgot about it. Index of prostitute articles sounds better. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 16:37, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi! John Sir, Kindly review the Trinjan. Thanks and regards RV (talk) 06:38, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi RV, looks like somebody else has beaten me to it. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 13:19, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks anyway. Regards RV (talk) 13:43, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Concern regarding Draft:Hosk
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Nothing to Prove (EP)
Good morning Mr John. Please help check and review the page Nothing to Prove (EP). A tag was placed while I was still editing, but I think now I've expanded it enough. Thank you. Idoghor Melody (talk) 08:49, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Idoghor Melody, that looks fine now. In future you may wish to add {{in use}} or {{in creation}} to the top of new pages so people know you're still working on them. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 13:23, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. Now I create in my sandbox before moving to main space. Once again, thank you. Idoghor Melody (talk) 14:35, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Wazobia FM Kano
Good day Mr John, I'm here again.😅 Please help check and review Wazobia FM Kano. Thank you. Idoghor Melody (talk) 16:10, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Idoghor Melody, you need to add references for the Shows and OAP's sections. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 16:17, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Ooops Ok I'll do just that. Idoghor Melody (talk) 16:20, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello Mr John. The citations has been added, please do review 🙏. Thank you. Idoghor Melody (talk) 16:40, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Idoghor Melody, that looks better now. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 16:42, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you John B123. I'll be adding more Wikipedia articles from now. Please I'll be disturbing you more often😅. Once again, thank you sir. Idoghor Melody (talk) 16:48, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Some baklava for you!
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You quickly reviewed the articles created. It's time to take a baklava break! :) 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 17:17, 27 August 2021 (UTC) |
- Hi Vikipolimer, thanks, that's most kind of you. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 18:00, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Yabasi (soundtrack)
Good day Mr John. The article Yabasi (soundtrack) is ready, please check and help review 🙏. Thank you in advance sir. Idoghor Melody (talk) 22:21, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Idoghor Melody, all done. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 22:49, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you John B123. Please check now if what i did was able to solve the page issue.
Idoghor Melody (talk) 23:18, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Idoghor Melody, that's fine now. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 06:45, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
John B123 Thanks alot man. The next article will soon be ready. Idoghor Melody (talk) 07:16, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Pending reviews
Hi @John B123 can u review my latest contributes, please? 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 12:59, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Vikipolimer, Menâpirzâde Nuri needs more references for the lead section. I'll merge Mirza Habib Esfahani and Habib Esfahani. What sort of works are those you listed in Mirza Habib Esfahani. (in Habib Esfahani they are separated into Persian Grammar and Translations). Regards. --John B123 (talk) 16:34, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @John B123 I've added more references for Menâpirzâde Nuri and also I added the "merge" tag to Mirza Habib Esfahani however thanks for your reviews :) 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 16:39, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Vikipolimer, Menâpirzâde Nuri looks fine now. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 16:45, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @John B123 I've added more references for Menâpirzâde Nuri and also I added the "merge" tag to Mirza Habib Esfahani however thanks for your reviews :) 𝗩𝗶𝗸𝗶𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 ℣ 16:39, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you
I wanted to thank you for moving three recent articles I created to the draft-space, rather than deleting them. I have been working on dozens of political pages recently, and am trying to prepare for the midterms. Let us continue to work together for a better Wikipedia! PickleG13 (talk)
- Hi PickleG13, good luck with the midterms. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 22:36, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello sir John, good morning from Ghana. Could you please review Sefwi Adabokrom for me?Boadu Emma (talk) 10:31, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Thanks
- Hi Boadu Emma, that looks fine. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 10:55, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
All the pleasure is mine sir Boadu Emma (talk) 11:56, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Review: Sefwi Bodi Hello sir John B123, pls if you're online, kindly review Sefwi Bodi for me. Thanks Boadu Emma (talk) 23:44, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Boadu Emma, all done. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 13:26, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Sir John B123, thanks for your constant assistance sir. It's my desire to edit more on Populated places in Ghana. I am so much grateful sir.Boadu Emma (talk) 16:19, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Sir John B123, thanks for your suggestions on Ghana Greentech Academy. It's now categorized with other issues resolved. With your indulgence, you can have second look at it.Boadu Emma (talk) 21:45, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Boadu Emma, it looks fine now. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 22:35, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Sir John B123, I appreciate your time. Thanks very much.Boadu Emma (talk) 22:55, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
Fully Loaded (Koliwater)
Hello Mr John . Good evening from this part of Nigeria😅. The article Fully Loaded (Koliwater) is ready for review. Please check and help review. Thanks in advance. Idoghor Melody (talk) 22:20, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Idoghor Melody, you need to add a couple of reviews of the album to show that it meets WP:NALBUM. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 22:39, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Mr John, I've added reception to it but at the time this album was released, there were really no articles or writers who reviews album, except on maybe TV and Radio programmes. I did the much I can but it's still good. Please check. Thanks. Idoghor Melody (talk) 23:10, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Idoghor Melody, I think it just about passes notability now. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 06:52, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Alright thanks for the review. The next article will soon be ready. Happy Sunday sir Idoghor Melody (talk) 06:54, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of 29 AD Regiment (Samba) (India)
Hi John B123,
Though the article has since be deleted, I will be rewriting the parts of the article to make it fit for Wikipedia standards.
Regards,
Akk7a (talk) 08:25, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Akk7a, you need to write it in your own words. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 07:30, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Original Barnstar |
| Thank you very much for the article, Sakineh Ghasemi. It is awesome, but also very sad, to read her tragic story. I believe the others you created are also very good. Egeymi (talk) 14:01, 29 August 2021 (UTC) |
- Hi Egeymi, thanks I appreciate your kind words. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 14:28, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Legacy (Ahamefuna)
Hi Mr John Good Evening from this side of Nigeria. The article Legacy (Ahamefuna) is ready, please check and help review. Thanks in advance. Idoghor Melody (talk) 15:13, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Idoghor Melody, all done. Regard. --John B123 (talk) 16:35, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you so much John B123. You're encouraging me so much but you don't know. Thanks alot. Idoghor Melody (talk) 16:38, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Antonio Castillo Hernández
Hello, can you help me to Wikify this article Antonio Castillo Hernández please. Thanks.--Nasty bits (talk) 19:05, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Nasty bits, I'm not sure how he meets the notability guidelines?
well known for the various jobs he has done throughout his career
needs expansion, what jobs? I don't understand why you have moved it out of draftspace? Regards. --John B123 (talk) 19:15, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Well the article is still under construction if I would also like to hear your opinion about this other article Alberto Gualde and which was not template by the user in turn.--Nasty bits (talk) 19:29, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Nasty bits, I don't see any notability for Alberto Gualde. Unfortunately the creator is WP:AUTOPATROLLED so their article don't go through the WP:NPP process. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 19:51, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Well Thank you for your help, that's what Wikipedia is about being able to meet her or learn from her every day. Nasty bits (talk) 20:58, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Nasty bits, I don't see any notability for Alberto Gualde. Unfortunately the creator is WP:AUTOPATROLLED so their article don't go through the WP:NPP process. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 19:51, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Well the article is still under construction if I would also like to hear your opinion about this other article Alberto Gualde and which was not template by the user in turn.--Nasty bits (talk) 19:29, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Ogbe-Ogonogo Modern Market Asaba
Hi Mr John, Good Evening from this side. Please check Ogbe-Ogonogo Modern Market, Asaba and help review. Please check the fire incident area and see if the photo is ok the way it is. If it's not, please remove and help review. Thanks sir. Idoghor Melody (talk) 21:51, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Idoghor Melody, all done. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 21:58, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. Idoghor Melody (talk) 21:59, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Page: Got me Started Tour by TINI
Hi. I saw you moved page for Got Me Started Tour to Tini's page, but please don't do it again. That tour was spectacular, successful and highly noticed, I will add more information to prove it, but I can't do everything at once, I need time. It would be easier if you would also help in editing and posting information, instead of just moving it again in the Tini's page.Yiwistar (talk) 22:20, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Yiwistar, please read WP:NTOUR. For a tour to have its own page it needs to show notability in terms of artistic approach, financial success, relationship to audience, or other such terms. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 20:28, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello again, yes I have already read the rules and this tour has shown great importance in terms of artistic approach, financial success, attitude towards the audience or other similar concepts. For example, look at the Lali's tour page A Bailar Tour. Its the same as Tini's Got me Started Tour and is not deleted, and I think that both meet the conditions. Yiwistar (talk) 23:17, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Yiwistar, the difference between the two tours is in the referencing. Got Me Started Tour doesn't seem to have any references that show the requirements of WP:NTOUR, just show that the tour happened. On a different note, Tini's site, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram are considered to be self-published and therefore not not reliable sources. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 21:30, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Need to ask something
Hi, so what I'm writing here is not about what you wrote on my talk page, instead, it is about two articles that were created on the same thing - Mixed individual BC1 events. I have written this on Boccia at the 2020 Summer Paralympics talk page. These two articles, Boccia at the 2020 Summer Paralympics – Mixed individual BC1 and Boccia at the 2020 Summer Paralympics – Mixed Individual BC1, both have different contents but covers the same topic - to key in the results of those events. And now it is a headache, on which should be used and which should not, and yes one of that created pages was mine but I don't mind anything. Thank you. Jr2006Venz (talk) 08:49, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Jr2006Venz, see Talk:Boccia at the 2020 Summer Paralympics. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 06:44, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Sure
I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Hughesdarren. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Church of the Ascension, Timoleague, and have marked it as unreviewed. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.
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- Hi Hughesdarren, can I ask why? Regards. --John B123 (talk) 13:06, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi John, Sorry, I thought I had just reviewed it myself. I don't know what went wrong with that one. My apologies. Regards Hughesdarren (talk) 13:14, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Hughesdarren, no problem, I've done the same myself. I think this occurs if somebody else reviews the page while you're still checking it over. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 13:23, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Please add categories
Hey, I would be grateful if you could add categories to List of largest ruling leaders by population.
I tried but failed to understand how to. Appu (talk) 10:28, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Appu, I've added one but not sure of what other categories are applicable. What categories did you try to add? Regards. --John B123 (talk) 11:17, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Oh! Ok. Now that you have added the template, I know how to add further.Thank you. Appu (talk) 14:00, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm DGG. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Salvatore Novo, and have marked it as unreviewed. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.
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I contested the Venktesh Shukla page you marked for speedy deletion. Input on how I proceed?
Hi John, I'm not sure all the steps I must go through to contest this, can you please advise? This is what I wrote on the talk page I contested it.
"This page should not be speedily deleted because: I wrote this page from the ground up, it has zero content derived from whatever prior page had existed -- I was not involved with and can't find the prior deleted page to compare it; it looks like it was written and deleted >3 years ago.
The person this page discussed (Venktesh Shukla) is noteworthy based on "receiving significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Further, they have had a noteworthy impact on the business climate for Indian entrepreneurs through volunteer service over many years, as president of two different major non-profit organizations.
I cited every fact on the page from independent, reliable sources that met Wikipedia's source criteria, including reviewing Wikipedia deprecated sources to ensure they all qualified sources.
If you have problems with specific elements of the page, please let me know. And I will repair them." --Mukis (talk) 16:19, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Mukis, an admin will look at the page and review taking into consideration your objection on the talk page. To me the article comes across as promotional, almost like a bio on a company website. It also seems to be more about the companies he is involved with than the man himself. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 17:20, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- I see the article has been moved to draft. You can work on it there and submit it for review when you are ready. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 17:51, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi John, thank you for explaining why you flagged it; that helps. I just deleted all but a couple company names -- I had mistakenly thought I was *supposed* to list all the relevant companies.
- Before I submit the Venktesh Shukla draft for formal review, would you be willing to scan the page to see if anything else strikes you as a 'flag' for me to correct? - Mukis (talk) 21:47, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- It's looking a lot better now. I'd try to include more personal information, childhood, education etc if that's available. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 22:08, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Umu Obiligbo
Hi Mr John B123, Good morning from this part of Nigeria 😅. I moved a work from one of my sandboxes to main space after finishing the creation. This time around I decided to wait and see if it will be checked or reviewed by anyone. Hmmmmmm. It wasn't. and that's why I come to you everytime since I started moving from sandbox. When I use to create in main space directly, it won't be up to one hour before a reviewer will tag it for an error or a mistake or something else or even review it in some cases. It seems like those articles moved from sandbox does not reflect in New pages feed. Please tell me if there's a tag I'm not adding or if there's anything I'm not doing right. Because coming to meet you everytime is... That aside, please check and help review Umu Obiligbo. Thanks in advance. Idoghor Melody (talk) 04:42, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Idoghor Melody, articles moved from sandbox show in the New Pages Feed. There are currently 5,000 articles in the queue. You have been fortunate in the past that your articles have been reviewed quickly, but there is no guarantee on this. I've marked Umu Obiligbo as reviewed. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 07:24, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you Mr John, what you're doing for me is really encouraging me to do more, and I'm grateful, Thank you very much. Idoghor Melody (talk) 10:39, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Polychain Capital (Draft review + Move request)
Hi John. I am creating an article for this company using a completely new format. Seeking your review and if its ok can you please help move it since the page, Polychain Capital is a redirect. Thanks-Imcdc (talk) 17:33, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Imcdc, it looks ok to me so I've moved it to Polychain Capital. You don't need any special permissions to move an article to a name already occupied by a redirect providing the redirect has no history, ie it hasn't been changed since it was created. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 17:45, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks -Imcdc (talk) 17:48, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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- Hi FWd82, thanks, most kind of you. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 20:13, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Contested blank and redirects
Hi John B123! I noticed that you were recently involved in a small dispute at Molly-Mae Hague, which is similar to the one you and I recently had the other day at First Middle School of Changsha. The proper procedure for this area isn't as settled as I wish it was, but I just wanted to point you to this CENT-listed RfC from last year, which considered the topic and found that Most users believe that AfD should be used to settle controversial or contested cases of blanking and redirecting
. I'd suggest following that protocol for future disputes to avoid any potential edit wars. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 22:28, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Sdkb. I don't think it's as simple as that. In the case of Molly-Mae Hague a sock was causing the problems, at least initially. These articles are not redirected for the fun of it, but are the problematic articles at the back of the NP queue. Simply restoring these problematic articles can cause problems with WP:BURDEN, such as at First Middle School of Changsha, and in the case of BLPs, WP:BLP. Sending these articles to AfD can also cause problems, look at the grief Onel5969 got for doing just that at ANI. There are some editors that will try and save everything, no matter how hopeless they are. In these cases sending to AfD just wastes people's time. I have no objections to redirects being restored to articles providing they make an attempt to resolve the problems. On a side note, I've never come across the {{Boosterism}} tag before. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 23:38, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for that perspective. I should add that I've certainly seen how prolific you and Onel5969 are at NPP reviewing, and I know how thankless of a job it can be, so I hope I'm not coming across as badgering you for doing it. Regarding how to handle these situations, though, I do think that if there's a reasonable question as to whether or not a topic is notable, it deserves to have its day at AfD, where article rescuers will at least come across it and have the opportunity to try to save it. If it's hopeless, yeah, they'll be wasting their time, but the community never has too much trouble finding consensus to delete/redirect when it's warranted, and it's important that that decision be made by the community rather than unilaterally. For BLPs, I agree that the presumption should be to remove material not explicitly supported, but otherwise, our standard for what warrants a page is notability, not quality (see WP:Deletion is not cleanup), so the path for articles with problems is just to tag as needed and preserving the content so that it can be improved in the future. I don't have any delusion that First Middle School of Changsha will reach the level of development of its U.S. counterparts like Stuyvesant High School any time soon, but there would never be any question about notability for those pages, and it won't be able to start developing unless it's allowed to exist. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 00:42, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Sdkb. I didn't take you comments as any sort of criticism. On the subject of reverting redirection of articles, there is already an established policy on that at WP:ATD-R. Whilst not disagreeing with the RfC, the policy puts the onus on those objecting to redirection to discus (either on the talk page or at AfD) before restoring the article. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 22:07, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for finding that paragraph. It's very confusingly worded with the current text of
A page can be blanked and redirected if there is a suitable page to redirect to, and if the resulting redirect is not inappropriate. If the change is disputed, an attempt should be made to reach a consensus before restoring the redirect. Suitable venues for seeking a consensus if a redirection is challenged include the article's talk page and Wikipedia:Articles for Deletion.
I read that to mean "If the change is disputed (via a revert bringing back the page), an attempt should be made to reach a consensus before restoring the redirect (i.e. before deleting and redirecting again). It appears you're interpreting "restoring the redirect" to mean the opposite, i.e. bringing back the page. Looking at the three relevant discussions (the 2018 RfC, the 2020 wording tweak, and the 2020 RfC I linked above), I think my interpretation was the original intention. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 22:22, 2 September 2021 (UTC)- Looking at it again, I think you're probably right. Definitely poorly worded. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 23:10, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for finding that paragraph. It's very confusingly worded with the current text of
- Hi Sdkb. I didn't take you comments as any sort of criticism. On the subject of reverting redirection of articles, there is already an established policy on that at WP:ATD-R. Whilst not disagreeing with the RfC, the policy puts the onus on those objecting to redirection to discus (either on the talk page or at AfD) before restoring the article. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 22:07, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for that perspective. I should add that I've certainly seen how prolific you and Onel5969 are at NPP reviewing, and I know how thankless of a job it can be, so I hope I'm not coming across as badgering you for doing it. Regarding how to handle these situations, though, I do think that if there's a reasonable question as to whether or not a topic is notable, it deserves to have its day at AfD, where article rescuers will at least come across it and have the opportunity to try to save it. If it's hopeless, yeah, they'll be wasting their time, but the community never has too much trouble finding consensus to delete/redirect when it's warranted, and it's important that that decision be made by the community rather than unilaterally. For BLPs, I agree that the presumption should be to remove material not explicitly supported, but otherwise, our standard for what warrants a page is notability, not quality (see WP:Deletion is not cleanup), so the path for articles with problems is just to tag as needed and preserving the content so that it can be improved in the future. I don't have any delusion that First Middle School of Changsha will reach the level of development of its U.S. counterparts like Stuyvesant High School any time soon, but there would never be any question about notability for those pages, and it won't be able to start developing unless it's allowed to exist. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 00:42, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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Hi! John, Sir, Kindly review the subject page. Thanks and regards RV (talk) 03:11, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi RV, all done. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 08:40, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you so much and best regards. RV (talk) 18:44, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
New Quantity System
Thank you for reviewing the article I started. 😁 Tewdar (talk) 15:51, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Tewdar, no problem. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 15:55, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- BTW, do I have to request that someone assess the article, or does that get done automatically? I've only created two articles so I'm not really sure how it works. Tewdar (talk) 17:33, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Tewdar, new pages get added the the Special:NewPagesFeed automatically which is the feed that new page reviewers use. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 17:48, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- Aha, found it. But why does it say, "No citations" in big red letters? I thought it was quite well referenced? Tewdar (talk) 17:57, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- The software behind the feed looks for <ref> tags to determine if the article is referenced. If you use {{sfn}}, {{sfnp}} or {{harvnb}} for referencing it doesn't pick up that it has references. It's not really a problem as things like referencing are checked manually when a page is reviewed. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 18:16, 4 September 2021 (UTC)--John B123 (talk) 18:16, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, okay. I used {{sfnp}} so that solves that. Thanks a lot for your help. Tewdar (talk) 18:53, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello John, Sir, Please review the winch machine. Thanks RV (talk) 04:02, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi RV, looks like it's already been reviewed. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 07:17, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks anyway! Best regards. RV (talk) 07:28, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello John, I'm working on the "one source" tag you added to this page. I found an excellent additional source from Harvard Business School but am having trouble bringing up the references list (there's only one at this point). Shenrichs (talk) 01:44, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Shenrichs, adding {{reflist}} will bring up the references. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 06:15, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks John B123. It's my first time doing an edit to add a source; also it's unusual in that the existing source in the original was for free-content material. You might take a look at it and let me if any problems. Shenrichs (talk) 16:03, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Shenrichs, it could do with some more link to other articles, otherwise it looks ok. --John B123 (talk) 17:09, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi John B123, Please can you review the Hans Airways page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Airways - which I have written. Hopefully I have created it properly straight away this time. Feel free to make any other suggestions to make this page better. Thanks and regards. MW1011 (talk)
- Hi Shenrichs, generally airlines are not regarded as notable until they get their operator's licence. Otherwise it looks ok. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 17:12, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi John B123, the Hans Airways post was actually from MW1011. I've added a heading for it here. Shenrichs (talk) 00:28, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Shenrichs, apologies for that. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 07:19, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi John B123, I take your point, however there are countless examples of other start-up airlines without AOCs which have Wikipedia profiles for example Norse Atlantic Airways (which you helped me publish before), as well as Odyssey Airlines in the UK - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odyssey_Airlines. I feel that its important to start telling the story of these airlines while they are in their formative months. Thanks again for your consideration. MW1011 (talk)
- Hi MW1011, there seems to be enough sources to meet WP:GNG so I've moved it to mainspace. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 18:56, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi John B123, Thanks again for your help. MW1011 (talk)
Hello John, Sir, Kindly review the Salu (cloth). Regards RV (talk) 12:37, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi RV, all done. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 16:40, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you so much and best regards. 00:46, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
Stubs
Hi John, Sir, Kindly review the following stubs.
- Cottonade
- Etamine . Thanks RV (talk) 11:00, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi RV, I've marked Cottonade as reviewed. Somebody else has already reviewed Etamine. I'm withdrawing from reviewing so this will be the last page I can review for you. All the best for the future. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 14:31, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- John, Sir, Please don't do that. Without your encouragement and guidance, I personally would not be the same. We respectfully request that you reconsider your decision. There are many who require your assistance. Your support and guidance has been invaluable throughout the process. I'll miss your reviews, which have a special place in my heart. Warm regards RV (talk) 04:54, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi RV, I'll still be about if you need any advice, although probably not as much as before. Thanks for your kind words. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 14:07, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- John, Sir, Please don't do that. Without your encouragement and guidance, I personally would not be the same. We respectfully request that you reconsider your decision. There are many who require your assistance. Your support and guidance has been invaluable throughout the process. I'll miss your reviews, which have a special place in my heart. Warm regards RV (talk) 04:54, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Unblock request
John B123 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Caught by an open proxy block but this host or IP is not an open proxy. My IP address is 185.69.144.71. This is a Vodafone mobile IP. John B123 (talk) 12:49, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Since this is an open proxy block I cannot soften it; it seems to be a Vodafone VPN as well. Better to refer you to WP:IPECPROXY and suggest you ask for your account to be exempt from these blocks. — Daniel Case (talk) 05:25, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
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@Daniel Case: Ok thanks. --John B123 (talk) 07:31, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Footprints (Duncan Mighty album)
Hi Mr John, greetings from this end... Please check and help review Footprints (Duncan Mighty album). Thanks in advance sir. Idoghor Melody (talk) 14:04, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Idoghor Melody, I've marked the article as reviewed. I'm withdrawing from reviewing so this will be the last page I can review for you. All the best for the future. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 14:22, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
Ooops.😑😑 Thanks alot for all the ones you've reviewed for us, we really appreciate sir. But why are you withdrawing? --Idoghor Melody (talk) 14:31, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Idoghor Melody, it's a long story.... Regards. --John B123 (talk) 14:35, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Mr John, I would really love to know why even if it's long, please can you email?--Idoghor Melody (talk) 14:38, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Mr John, I'll still be about doing other things. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 07:33, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Mr John, I would really love to know why even if it's long, please can you email?--Idoghor Melody (talk) 14:38, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Idoghor Melody, let's just say I haven't seen eye to eye with some of the admins. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 14:08, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, Ok. I wish you all the best Sir John. But hope you're not dropping all your current badges?🤔 --Idoghor Melody (talk) 14:45, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Non Review of new article
Dear JohnB123,
My concerns are that I’ve written an encyclopedic article for a while and it’s yet to be reviewed.
Kindly check it out for Me please - Lonadek B.Korlah (talk) 06:04, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi B.Korlah, I'm no longer carrying out new page reviews so I'm afraid I can't help you. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 07:14, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your response JohnB123. YOu have been one reviewer I’ve always admired. Kindly recommend someone who still reviews new pages for me.
Thank you B.Korlah (talk) 07:24, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
I’m still waiting
Hello Celestina, I’m still waiting on your update on the Lonadek you said you were gonna help me with.
Regards,
B.Korlah B.Korlah (talk) 10:34, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Sorry wrong message!!! B.Korlah (talk) 10:34, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi B.Korlah, no problem. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 17:32, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
I’ll miss you
We haven’t interacted that much but I learned a lot from following your taggings and was always in awe of your volume and accuracy. I completely understand why you’ve had enough and I hope you find more rewarding things to do instead. All the best. Mccapra (talk) 19:54, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Mccapra, thanks for your kind works. All the best for the future. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 14:04, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- I concur and 100% agree with how you described the brutality of some wannabe dictators among the administrators. You were doing the most ungratefui job on the project and that's how you're mistreated at the end of the day LouisAlain (talk) 16:12, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi LouisAlain, thanks. I know you too have had problems with certain people, but I've always found your articles well written and informative. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 18:25, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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- Hi Robertgombos, thanks, most kind of you. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 18:26, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
- You're welcome! Robertgombos (talk) 14:47, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021
Hello John B123,
Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.
Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.
At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.
There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.
If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software.
Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here.
To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here. Sent to 827 users. 04:31, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
Unfortunate to see you go from NPP
Hi John. I saw your comment in the NPP section.
Its really unfortunate the admins didn't give you or the others the support needed.
Its even more unfortunate that you are no longer doing reviews.
So I speak on behalf of many who would like to express our gratitude to you and your hard work in helping perform all those reviews.
-Imcdc (talk) 15:15, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Imcdc: Can you plese tell me what happened. John B123 was one of the top most reviewer. --Gazal world (talk) 06:40, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Imcdc, thanks for those kind words. All the best for the future. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 13:32, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
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Hello John B123 !
Could you please advise on how to properly post the contributions I am making to the Microcredential entry ? I never started a Wikipedia entry before but I think I am posting legitimate content on the matter, being deeply involved in the topic.
You have been reverting all my updates - I can't understand why, so I am looking for your guidance.
the last update is particularly significant as the starting point toward a universal definition of microcredential by UNESCO, Here is the webinar and soon the full report will be made public.
The entry was updated with the draft definitions provided by UNESCO - the idea of the expert team was to crowdsource the fine tuning of the definition by creating an entry in Wikipedia. We are all excited about this opportunity and I was asked to handle that, but unfortunately all my edits get reverted to "microdegree".
The entry has not global visibility and we want to continue to drive revisions from the global education community to it.
What is the right way to engage ? Why are my updates reverted immediately ?
Psykoreactor (talk) 8:35, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your guidance and support.
Simone Ravaioli (simone.ravaioli@digitary.net)
- Hi Simone. There seems to be some misunderstanding of the purpose of Wikipedia. It is an encyclopaedia not a dictionary - see WP:NOTDIC. Definitions are handled by the sister project Wiktionary. Wikipedia is also not a vehicle to garner public opinion. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 14:44, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hello John B123 and thanks for the response,
- The definition is only one facet of the articulation of microcredentials - it is a conversation starter that we would like the education community to build on, leveraging the momentum created by the UNESCO Report mentioned above. We expect there to be more sections like: Use Cases, examples, Policies references, implementations, technical aspects, recognition guidance, platforms etc.
- By many accounts, microcredentials are the currency of the future of learning.
- -> For these reasons, I think a Wikipedia entry is needed for microcredentials
- In some respects it is similar to the microdegree entry, only the conversation around microcredential is much wide in scope and relevance in the domain. In fact, microdegrees are a subset of microcredentials. Please refer to the recent comment made on the Talk page of microdegree by Phil Barker
- On Sept. 21st at 11am UTC, we will be hosting a follow up webinar open to anyone to continue the conversation "toward a common definition of microcredentials" started by UNESCO. This work if very much in progress and requires the contribution by the open community - we thought the crowdsourcing through Wikipedia was a great way to support the work. This is why I started this entry (with no previous wikipedia experience). During this event we intended to share the wikipedia entry and encourage the participants and community to direct the discourse there.
- -> I would like to ask if you could put up the starting prompt (draft definition) I had provided and refrain to revert back to microdegrees
- Sincerely,
Psykoreactor (talk) 09:51, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Simone. For a subject to have a page on Wikipedia it needs to meet the notability guidelines - see WP:N. These guidelines are based on
significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject
. I note the article was last reverted to a redirect by Scope creep, unless they have a different view then I don't see it qualifies for an article. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 13:29, 17 September 2021 (UTC) - Hi @John B123:, @Psykoreactor:. They seem to be a new thing that has come existance during covid in the UK, but whether it is notable as a subject, i'm not sure. I reverted the present article, as it read like a whitepaper with a single social media ref, that is unacceptable. If it is recreated it needs to be academic examination of what they are, why they came into existance, what need the serve and so on. I would suggest creating a draft article so it can be reviewed. scope_creepTalk 16:20, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Simone. For a subject to have a page on Wikipedia it needs to meet the notability guidelines - see WP:N. These guidelines are based on
- Hi @John B123:, @Scope creep:. Thank you for the feedback on the Wikipedia contributing protocol. I will take the advise and start a draft page in my "Sandbox" where I will try to catalyze reviews (content and format) before suggesting it again as a public page. I believe there is a compelling case for having an entry for microcredentials. The term is already mentioned extensively in the microdegree page, which is a good sign of evidence. As a matter of fact, what current research and practice seem to suggest is that microcredentials might be the parent term of microdegree. Thanks also to Phil Barker for the support in making sense of wikipedia things early on and starting to substantiate the case for microcredentials in the Talk page of microdegree
- Hi Simone. I'm happy tohave a look at the draft when you feel it's ready if that helps. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 16:48, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Moment (Dark Tranquillity album)
The album meet the criteria of notability, as it appear in many music charts
The recording has appeared on any country's national music chart.
World wide: ch Peak: 16 / weeks: 1 de Peak: 17 / weeks: 1 at Peak: 24 / weeks: 1 fr Peak: 181 / weeks: 1 be Peak: 196 / weeks: 1 (Vl)
Peak: 50 / weeks: 1 (Wa)
se Peak: 14 / weeks: 1 fi Peak: 9 / weeks: 2 it Peak: 96 / weeks: 1 es Peak: 71 / weeks: 1
https://swedishcharts.com/showitem.asp?interpret=Dark+Tranquillity&titel=Moment&cat=a
- Hi Realxsalo, there was nothing about that in the article. Articles need to show the subject is notable. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 22:03, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- First, excuse me for my late answer. The article shows that the album peaks in many european countries, im going to reverse your edit.
- Realxsalo the article mentions nothing of the sort although the single reference shows that. Please read my edit summary when I redirected the artcle: Redirected - virtually unreferenced - see WP:BURDEN before restoring Please comply with WP:BURDEN and add references to verify the content. --John B123 (talk) 18:21, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
- First, excuse me for my late answer. The article shows that the album peaks in many european countries, im going to reverse your edit.
Thoughts?
I note you did this which in my opinion is very much apt. The tag was removed here. I moved it to Draftspace due to notability concerns and possible COI here. It seems to have made its way back to mainspace, I’m not sure what to make of this, can you take a second look at the article and check to see if the notability threshold is met? I’d appreciate your thoughts and take on this. Celestina007 (talk) 14:22, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Celestina007, I don't see that it meets the notability guidelines any more than when I tagged it previously. As it has been draftified once and then moved back to mainspace you can't send it to draft again, so AfD would seem the only option. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 14:53, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- Exactly I wasn’t planning on draftyfing, I cross checked the article & I didn’t see it to be notable enough, since the
{{notability}}tag up until now, thus I decided ask for a second opinion from you, yes, AFD seems to be the only plausible course of action now. Thanks John. Celestina007 (talk) 15:01, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- Exactly I wasn’t planning on draftyfing, I cross checked the article & I didn’t see it to be notable enough, since the
Hi
Hi,sir.Could you please review Imarat tayfa.
- Hi Imarat tayfa. Sorry, I'm no longer reviewing new article so can't help. Reply. --John B123 (talk) 14:50, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Oh,OK...So who can I ask to do this? If you know of an active page reviewer, could you please direct me?
- Hi Imarat tayfa. There are many reviewers looking at new articles so I'm sure one of them will have a look at it. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 18:53, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
What’s your formula?
I’m looking to adapt new formulas when reviewing articles so I’m going about asking veteran reviewers their approach. My question is, I note that when you come across non notable article on mainspace you tend to leave the “notability” tag on the article, now, when you do so, do you mark as “reviewed” or do you manually “un-review” it? Celestina007 (talk) 17:17, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Celestina007. There are two different views on how reviewing should be carried out. The first is that when you look at an article, you tag it as neccasary and mark it as reviewed as you have reviewed it. The second is that you should only mark articles as reviewed if they are suitable to remain in mainspace as they are (although they may still have more minor issues). I subscribe to the latter.
- When I was reviewing the first thing I looked at was notability. If it was obviously not notable, I'd nominate for speedy or AfD. If I wasn't sure I'd add a notability tag but not mark it as reviewed. 'Not sure' would also include where there is no notability shown on the page. For example for a film article, if there were no reviews on the page (to satisfy WP:NFILM) I'd tag it. There may well be reviews for the film, but I don't see that it is part of the NPP remit to search for them. (Unlike sending them to AfD where you need to do a WP:BEFORE search). Leaving it in the queue allows other reviewers to look at it, effectively getting a second opinion. If you mark it as reviewed then the chances are no other reviewers will see it.
- The next thing I'd look at is references. If there were no references I'd tag it as such but not mark it as reviewed. Every couple of days I'd go through the unreferenced articles in the feed and if they had been previously tagged as such move them to draft. When there were a list of general references, I'd tag the article with {{no footnotes}} but not mark it as reviewed (WP:VERIFY requires inline citations). If there were some inline references but required more I'd tag it with {{refimprove}} or {{BLP sources}}. If a lot of the content was referenced then I'd mark it as reviewed as well as tagging, but if it was largely unreferenced then I'd leave it as unreviewed. One test you could apply here is if you removed all the unreferenced content, would the article pass the basic requirements to stay in mainspace.
- Generally if I came across an article that somebody else had reviewed that I though needed tags, I add add the tags but not unreview it.
- Hope this helps. Although I'm no longer actively involved in NPP, I'm happy to offer any advice I can if you need it. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 18:58, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks JB, it definitely did help. Celestina007 (talk) 21:30, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
can you fix some cite and grammar errors in 2021 Brazilian protests?
ok, so, i added new content to the page, but it has lots of cite errors and possibly some grammar errors, so, can you fix them for me, as im not good with that. 187.39.133.201 (talk) 21:48, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi. I've fixed the cite errors but grammar isn't one of my strong points so I can't help you there. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 23:08, 26 September 2021 (UTC)