User talk:Jeslynra

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Hi Nick!

Thank you so much for your recommendations - I've made edits for years as an IP editor / non-official user, so despite that, I still feel so very new to this side of Wikipedia! I'm going to do my very best to follow what you said, but apologizes in advance if I mishap as I'm a bit overwhelmed with all the tutorials/guides. xD

Much appreciation,

Jeslynra (talk) 14:26, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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1. Did I appropriately disclose my COI/employment on my userpage?
2a. I attempted to upload some company pictures to be used - I can't seem to find where they go?
2b. I also am not knowledgeable with copyright laws, but my company has granted permission for the images to be used. How do I appropriately list this?

Thank you so much!

Jeslynra (talk) 14:04, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The disclosure looks good to me. Depending on the details of your contract and the interpretation of "affiliation" in the disclosure requirements (see Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure#Meaning of "employer, client, and affiliation" for additional explanations), you may want to name the temp agency, but in my personal opinion that agency's name doesn't matter much in your case.

The images were uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons, a central repository for freely-licensed images. You can look up your contributions to the Commons to find them. The English Wikipedia mirrors the file pages: For example, File:AriaLogo.png is the local page for the logo (which says that "This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons").

Regarding copyright, the Wikimedia Commons only accepts images that have been released under a free license that allows everybody to re-use and modify them for any purpose, including commercial purposes. The license of choice (though not the only "good" one) usually is the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 license. There's a standard release form at WP:Declaration of consent for all enquiries. I assume the company won't have much of an issue with releasing the truck image under that license; then they should send a confirmation by email to permissions-commons

wikimedia.org. They might be more reluctant to freely license their logo. It might be argued to not meet the threshold of originality required to be copyrightable in the first place; in that case the logo is in the public domain, and we can use it whether or not the company gives permission. If the company disagrees with that approach, there is another way: Wikipedia (unlike the Commons) accepts non-free images under some conditions. One such condition is that non-free images must only be used in live articles; a draft is not enough. So if you want to go that route, improve the draft so that it can become a live article, and then upload the logo to Wikipedia itself via WP:File Upload Wizard. Huon (talk) 15:48, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help, Huon. I have another follow up question in regards to copyrighting an image:

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2c. I'm a bit confused as to which types of copyrighted images can be used on Wikipedia. For example, can we choose to make the image "Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 Unported and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts)." Also, if so, would that be the correct wording to include in the email/submission to Wikipedia to grant this type of copyright?

Thank you in advance!

Jeslynra (talk) 17:44, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia considers images "free" (or maybe better "free enough") if they are released under a license that allows everybody to re-use and modify them for any purpose, including commercial purposes. The CC BY-NC-SA license you mention thus isn't free enough, and I don't think dual-licensing under the GFDL overcomes this shortcoming (though I'm not enough of a copyright specialist to be absolutely sure; if that were enough, however, I'd think that it would amount to cancelling out the "NC" part of the CC license, and you could go with CC BY-SA anyway).

All non-free images on Wikipedia are used under the doctrine of "fair use" (and we need to give a specific explanation why each intended use indeed constitutes fair use; the File Upload Wizard can help with that). So for Wikipedia's purposes there's no difference between content released under CC BY-NC-SA and content with "all rights reserved".

Regarding the release form, the first sentences should be adapted to read something like this:

I hereby affirm that I represent Aria Logistics, the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arialogisticstruckcut.png , and have legal authority in my capacity to release the copyright of that work.

I agree to publish the above-mentioned content under the free license: Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts).

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Personally I'd advise the company to release the truck image under a CC BY-SA license, either 3.0 or 4.0. Regarding the logo, it seems likely that it doesn't meet the threshold of originality required to be copyrightable in the first place (for comparison, the Best Western logo doesn't meet that threshold, and Aria Logistics' logo doesn't look more intricate to me). In that case the logo would be in the public domain, and no licensing would be necessary. However, I tend to err on the side of caution for such issues, and if the company prefers to argue that the logo is copyrightable, my advice would be to upload it to Wikipedia (instead of the Commons) once the draft has become a live article and to claim fair use. Huon (talk) 18:19, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there! Okay, so I'm getting increasingly overwhelmed with trying to follow, understand, and find everything, so if I miss something, I apologize.

3a. There was an image of a truck that I believe was deleted. Yesterday, I had someone with authorization from my company submit the image for CC BY-SA 4.0 using the email template, and she submitted it from a company email. Now that the image has been deleted, does that mean that the image was likely deleted before the copyright was received? Do I reupload the image? What is the appropriate measure to take.

3b. Additionally, I have no idea what to do with the logo, which looks like it was deleted, too. Here is a link to what I'm talking about: [[1]] (Also struggling with the different coding here - working on that learning curve. I'm used to HTML, although I'm rusty on that, too.)

Thank you for your help.

Jeslynra (talk) 14:10, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The email queue that deals with image permissions is somewhat backlogged, and not every administrator has access to that queue. It seems likely that the truck image was deleted before the email was processed. The company representative should receive feedback when the email is processed, and if everything is in order, the file will be restored. No action is necessary until there's a response to the email.

As I said above, what to do with the logo depends somewhat on whether it meets the threshold of originality - that is, whether it's intricate enough to be considered copyrightable. Apparently the admin who deleted it thought that it meets that threshold. In that case, wait until your draft becomes a live article, then upload the logo to Wikipedia (not to the Commons) via the File Upload Wizard, and provide an explanation why its use in the article constitutes fair use (the File Upload Wizard will guide you through that process step-by-step).

Regarding the code, you may want to check out the WP:Tutorial and, for a quick overview, the WP:Cheatsheet. Or you may want to try the WP:Visual Editor, which is a "what you see is what you get" editor that (for articles, but unfortunately not for talk pages like this one) provides an editing experience somewhat more in line with a modern text editor like Word or LibreOffice. Huon (talk) 22:51, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: arialogistics (November 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

not enough independent sources, we have no interest at all in what they say about themselves

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Theroadislong (talk) 16:48, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comics

Please don't do things like this—the article itself talks about the difference between the countable and uncountable usages of the term. The uncountable (not singular) version of comics is extremely well attested: Art Spiegelman and Scott McCloud, amongst many others, use it this way, and the fact is cited to multiple sources in the article. When you see a "not a typo" tag, your first assumption should be that it's there for a reason, and you'd better have a better reason for ignoring it than your gut feeling. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:08, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Jeslynra/sandbox/arialogistics

Hello, Jeslynra. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, User:Jeslynra/sandbox/arialogistics.

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it. — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:56, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]