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Contributing to FEB24
[edit]Thank you for contributing to the backlog drive.
I reviewed [these edits] that you made to article Avtonom Golovin, and noticed that you added two links to Wikisource entries and tagged the edit with WP:FEB24. There are two problems.
- While Wikisource may be a great way to FIND reliable sources, it
isMAY not ITSELF be a reliable source (see WP:RS) for Wikipedia; see WP:RSE and in particular this section. - The goal of the backlog drive is to add inline citations (see WP:INLINECITE), and while any citations and links to sister projects are welcome, only the first addition of one or more inline citation may be tagged with WP:FEB24.
I have therefore moved your links to Wikisource as {{Wikisourcelang-inline}} into an External links section (as per WP:MOSSIS). I also noticed that there was already a prior link to a reliable source in the article, but not properly formatted as a citation and not used as an inline citation either, so I put it into a {{cite journal}} and moved it into a General references section.
I hope this doesn’t annoy you too much, and doesn’t put you off contributing. Betterkeks (talk) 12:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Betterkeks. I think there is a misunderstanding. Wikisource is not the source, the sources are the Russian Biographical Dictionary and the Brockhaus and Efron Encyclopedic Dictionary, both are dictionaries known to be useful sources about the history of Russia. Wikipedia's policy is that encyclopedias may be cited. WP:TERTIARY They are both hosted on Wikisource, which is why I added the Wikisource URL, as it is convenient for those who want to check the source. Jaguarnik (talk) 15:22, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Jaguarnik, I’ve been doing more reading and it seems Wikisource needs to be assessed on a case-by-case basis, contrary in particular to this section. Furthermore, there is even template {{cite wikisource}} that COULD be used to add inline citations that use Wikisource! (Note self-corrections above.)
- Still, I notice that both Russian Biographical Dictionary and Brockhaus and Efron Encyclopedic Dictionary have externals links. I am curious why we would not use these instead of Wikisource?
- (I also think this section needs to be updated to state clearly that Wikisource data may be sourced IF reliable, and how in practice that reliability may be established.) Betterkeks (talk) 20:05, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Betterkeks, I honestly wasn't aware of the external links of RBC and B&E dictionaries; I think those links can also be used, I just used Wikisource as it was more convenient. I also wasn't aware of the cite wikisource template, thank you for that!
- I would go back if possible and put inline citations for the information in Avtonom Golovin and Ivan Mikhailovich Viskovatyi, but I am not sure how to put inline citations without simply making the same citation over and over again, as most of the information in those two articles are contained in the encyclopedic entries. Jaguarnik (talk) 21:12, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Personally, I would use the external links with a {{cite book}} or {{cite encyclopedia}} for inline citations. But I would also include links to Wikisource in the External links section, using {{Wikisourcelang-inline}}. Using {{cite wikisource}} isn’t common (it is only used on approximately 5,800 pages), and establishing reliability for Wikisource seems like an unsolved problem, at least to me ... at the moment.
- Referencing the same citation from multiple places is done by giving the
<ref>...</ref>
a name such as pol18 (see WP:NAMEDREFS); that is,<ref name="pol18">...</ref>
. Have a look at article Vic Schwall as an example; the inline citation<ref name="pfr">{{cite web ... }}</ref>
is also re-used elsewhere as<ref name="pfr" />
. To refer to specific pages, you could do this:<ref name="pfr" />{{rp|2, 5–9, 11}}
. - If you want to keep the main text light by keeping all the citation definitions in a single place outside of main text, you can use list-defined references (WP:LDR). An example is article Digital timing diagram, where
<ref name="ptd24" />
is used twice. - Alternatively, you could use shortened footnotes (WP:SRF), which seems to be the "system" preferred by contributors in humanities.
- I tried coming up with citations, but as I can’t read Russian, the below is as far as I got (using both {{cite book}} and {{cite encyclopedia}} as examples). Note that for the {{cite encyclopedia}} I left it spaced it out for the moment while completing it.
- {{Cite encyclopedia
- | last =
- | first =
- | author-link =
- | editor-last = Sytin
- | editor-first = Ivan
- | editor-link = Ivan Sytin
- | encyclopedia = Martial Encyclopedia
- | title = Головин, Автоном Михайлович
- | trans-title =
- | url = https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/ВЭ/ВТ/Головин,_Автоном_Михайлович
- | access-date = 2024-02-24
- | language = ru
- | edition =
- | date =
- | year =
- | publisher =
- | series =
- | volume =
- | location =
- | id =
- | isbn =
- | oclc =
- | doi =
- | pages =
- | archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20230927094924/https://runivers.ru/lib/book7666/
- | archive-date = 2023-09-27
- | url-status = live
- | quote =
- | ref =
- }}
- "Avtonom Golovin". Энциклопедический словарь Брокгауза и Ефрона [Brockhaus and Efron Encyclopedic Dictionary] (in Russian). St. Petersburg: Semenovskaya Typolitography (I.A. Efron). 1907. Archived from the original on 2023-10-22. Retrieved 2024-02-24.
- Betterkeks (talk) 13:22, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- One more question: are the two encyclopaedias being used as general references (see WP:GENREF)? Betterkeks (talk) 13:38, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your aid. The encyclopedias were originally being used as general references but I will try my best to convert them into inline citations. @Betterkeks Jaguarnik (talk) 20:52, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- One more question: are the two encyclopaedias being used as general references (see WP:GENREF)? Betterkeks (talk) 13:38, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
February 2024 WikiProject Unreferenced articles backlog drive – award
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This award is given in recognition to Jaguarnik for collecting more than 25 points during the WikiProject Unreferenced articles's FEB24 backlog drive. Your contributions played a crucial role in sourcing 14,300 unsourced articles during the drive. Thank you so much for participating and helping to reduce the backlog! – – DreamRimmer (talk) 18:29, 8 March 2024 (UTC) |
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[edit]Welcome to the 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest, Jaguarnik! The contest is now open for submissions. List your work at your submissions page to earn points. If you haven't done so already, please review the following:
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Your GA nomination of Hadriana in All My Dreams
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GA review
[edit]Hi Jaguarnik, many thanks for your detailed review of my Ukrainian composer article.
I am super busy for the next 5-6 days, but I want to do a good job addressing the issues you have raised. Could I by any chance have more than a week to get the article sorted in the way you have described? It would be sorted by July 16. Regards, Amitchell125 (talk) 11:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good! Please take your time. Jaguarnik (talk) 15:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Hadriana in All My Dreams
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DCWC August update
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Your GA nomination of Ivan the Terrible (1945 film)
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Ivan the Terrible (1945 film) GA
[edit]Congratulations! I'm happy to nominate it for DYK, if you'd like. BorgQueen (talk) 19:00, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @BorgQueen:, it's very kind of you to offer! I have a few DYK hooks from the article that I'm considering, and if you have any ideas for hooks, I would be honored to see them. Jaguarnik (talk) 21:18, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, I don't. I'm not familiar with the film. I've heard it's a masterpiece though. BorgQueen (talk) 21:21, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
DYK for Hadriana in All My Dreams
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ITN recognition for Salim Al-Huss
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Thank you ...
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... for reviewing Berezovsky! - Today's story has 3 composers, I couldn't decide for him, the one on the Main page, or the one who didn't make it on his bicentenary, so took both, and the pic has a third. Listen if you have a bit of time. The music, played by the Kyiv Symphony Orchestra in Germany in April 2022, impressed me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:10, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Recommended reading today: Frye Fire, by sadly missed Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the messages; it's a shame that Vami IV could not see his own article be featured. Jaguarnik (talk) 21:29, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. -- Today is Schoenberg's 150th birthday! On display, portrayed by Egon Schiele, with music from Moses und Aron, and with two DYK hooks, one from 2010 and another from 2014; the latter, about his 40th birthday, appeared on his 140th birthday, which made me happy then and now again. - See places for a stunning sunrise, on the day Bruckner's 200th birthday was celebrated (just a few days late). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
DCWC September update
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DYK for Ivan the Terrible (1945 film)
[edit]On 6 September 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ivan the Terrible (1945 film), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Sergei Eisenstein's Ivan the Terrible (scene pictured) has been named as both one of the worst films and one of the greatest films of all time? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ivan the Terrible (1945 film). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ivan the Terrible (1945 film)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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- Wow, congratulations! BorgQueen (talk) 03:29, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! Jaguarnik (talk) 08:57, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
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Part 2 of Ivan the Terrible
[edit]Looking over this recent GA you did, I am impressed with your work on this article. The plot summary for the second part of the film, however seems a little disjointed and I suggest you look at the same plot summary on the Russian language version of the article. If not that is fine, if you are interested in working on some articles I have suggestions. Happy editing my friend. Paleface Jack (talk) 01:28, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Paleface Jack:, I appreciate your kind words. I did look at the Russian language version while writing the article, and watched the film to make sure everything was correct; unfortunately the plot of the second film does not always flow logically, so it's hard to have it less disjointed. I will keep in mind that feedback though, as I hope to make the article a FA. Any suggestions for articles to work on are deeply appreciated. Jaguarnik (talk) 19:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Understood. FA is always tricky, and tightening up your prose, verifying sources, and general copy-editing can be tenuous but necessary. I myself have gone through countless failed FA projects but have not given up. I can give you a hand here and there if you need it, now a days I have been focusing on my mountain of revision drafts (Texas Chain Saw being a massive undertaking), improving my failed featured articles and research. I don't know if your interests span beyond just Russian articles but I have a few non-Russian ones you might find interesting. Paleface Jack (talk) 20:18, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Anything you think I would find interesting is good; while I do work primarily on Russian articles, it is not my only area of interest. Jaguarnik (talk) 20:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- What genre sparks your interest? Paleface Jack (talk) 20:40, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I do like art films like Angel's Egg, so I would be interested in articles like those. Jaguarnik (talk) 21:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Art films are always fascinating. Me, I specialize on horror/art films but have been known to branch out. There are a couple Japanese art films that are in fact quite good though their articles are sorely lacking. Films such as A Page of Madness, The Face of Another, and Pastoral: To Die in the Country are just a handful I have my eyes on. Page of Madness I have tried my hand at with some help from another user though I have had waning interest in perfecting what I wrote. Paleface Jack (talk) 22:57, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the recommendations. I do like the music from Face of Another - Takemitsu is a great composer. Will look at those to see if I can't improve them. Jaguarnik (talk) 19:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- If you wish for help, advice or general talk message me on my talk page. Paleface Jack (talk) 20:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the recommendations. I do like the music from Face of Another - Takemitsu is a great composer. Will look at those to see if I can't improve them. Jaguarnik (talk) 19:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Art films, especially Begotten will always be my soft spot. Paleface Jack (talk) 20:04, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Art films are always fascinating. Me, I specialize on horror/art films but have been known to branch out. There are a couple Japanese art films that are in fact quite good though their articles are sorely lacking. Films such as A Page of Madness, The Face of Another, and Pastoral: To Die in the Country are just a handful I have my eyes on. Page of Madness I have tried my hand at with some help from another user though I have had waning interest in perfecting what I wrote. Paleface Jack (talk) 22:57, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I do like art films like Angel's Egg, so I would be interested in articles like those. Jaguarnik (talk) 21:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- What genre sparks your interest? Paleface Jack (talk) 20:40, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Anything you think I would find interesting is good; while I do work primarily on Russian articles, it is not my only area of interest. Jaguarnik (talk) 20:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Understood. FA is always tricky, and tightening up your prose, verifying sources, and general copy-editing can be tenuous but necessary. I myself have gone through countless failed FA projects but have not given up. I can give you a hand here and there if you need it, now a days I have been focusing on my mountain of revision drafts (Texas Chain Saw being a massive undertaking), improving my failed featured articles and research. I don't know if your interests span beyond just Russian articles but I have a few non-Russian ones you might find interesting. Paleface Jack (talk) 20:18, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Some more potential sources for your Ivan article
[edit]In a lull in between edits, I did a little digging for more sources you could or could not include in your article.
- Leyda, Jay. “Two-Thirds of a Trilogy.” Film Quarterly, vol. 12, no. 3, 1959, pp. 16–22. JSTOR, https://doi.org/10.2307/3185979. Accessed 30 Sept. 2024.
- Maddow, Ben. “Eisenstein and the Historical Film.” Hollywood Quarterly, vol. 1, no. 1, 1945, pp. 26–30. JSTOR, https://doi.org/10.2307/1209585. Accessed 30 Sept. 2024.
- Jacobs, Lea. “A Lesson with Eisenstein: Rhythm and Pacing in Ivan the Terrible, Part I.” Music and the Moving Image, vol. 5, no. 1, 2012, pp. 24–46. JSTOR, https://doi.org/10.5406/musimoviimag.5.1.0024. Accessed 30 Sept. 2024.
- Pipolo, Tony. “Eisenstein: The Sound Years.” Cinéaste, vol. 28, no. 1, 2002, pp. 42–44. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/41689556. Accessed 30 Sept. 2024.
Paleface Jack (talk) 20:08, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- These are really helpful, thank you. I'm taking a break from the article so that I can look at it later with fresh eyes, and I'll look at these sources then. Jaguarnik (talk) 17:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Any particular film's you are aiming for in terms of expanding or watching? Paleface Jack (talk) 18:07, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- My long-term goal is to have all of Eisenstein's films at good or featured article status (2/10 of his films are at that status). Outside of Eisenstein, I would expand The Cranes Are Flying ( the article as it is currently is not much better than a stub) and maybe Face of Another (I would expand it more if I could, but I can't read Japanese, and I guess a good amount of information about that film is in Japanese...)
- By the way, you mentioned earlier that the plot for part 2 seemed disjointed; if you don't mind, it would be nice if you could look again and see if it reads better now. Jaguarnik (talk) 19:05, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sure thing. I will help you out on expanding things. I have been on and off working on expanding The Texas Chain Saw Massacre in a separate userspace (A helpful thing if you ever want to do edits of articles without having others intrude upon them), and some other projects. I do have an acquaintance on here that helps me with things from time to time, he knows more Japanese than I ever could and I can message him on Discord if you like. Paleface Jack (talk) 21:26, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- I did some minor edits. it's better than it was and will need only minimal copy editing to touch up. As for your eventual FA nomination of this article. word of advice, copy edits will go a long way, and you have been pretty good with that so far. If you can find any historical info on its american/international release it would be good to flesh that out somewhat and have a paragraph in reception and release sections that give some dedication to that, though it does not need to be major or substantial by any means. If you require assistance on this or other projects I am on here and Discord quite regularly. Keep up the great work and happy editing. Paleface Jack (talk) 16:19, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Any particular film's you are aiming for in terms of expanding or watching? Paleface Jack (talk) 18:07, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
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ITN recognition for Kiril Marichkov
[edit]On 13 October 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Kiril Marichkov, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 22:04, 13 October 2024 (UTC)