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Slovak list of castles

Hi you deleted link from slovakia list castles i just wanted to give for people more complete list of this topic. i found very helpful webpage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:CA00:E600:6106:AA67:59F9:265E (talk) 01:29, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Luther Strange Page

"Big Luther" is a nickname he earned when playing collegiate basketball. It is a name he has carried with him throughout his political career. I am heavily involved with Alabama Politics and know this to be true. Also, Politco has the info on "Big Luther."[1] Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rtrota (talkcontribs) 15:31, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

That's fine. Add it back with the reference then. It just looked like it was going along with Marvel Comic vandalism and it wasn't referenced at the time. IronGargoyle (talk) 17:45, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Joe Posnanski Page

I added info on Posnanski's page which he himself announced on his blog. But if you want to edit it out, I have no problem. No big deal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.184.119.160 (talk) 04:50, 17 December 2016 (UTC)


Wikipedia:Plankton (Character) was not vandalized

The things I added to Plankton (Character) where events that actually happened in the last episode. I do not appreciate you marking it as vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.200.173.138 (talk) 17:40, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Season 10 hasn't even happened yet and you had a history of making dubious edits to that page. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:22, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

...need to put back redlinks, if you agree

@IronGargoyle and Checkingfax: Hi User:IronGargoyle. I am working on the List of flamenco guitarists. I find the redlinked guitarists noteworthy, but unfortunately sources or Wikipedia articles only exist in Spanish, French, and German. This makes it easy for me since I have several mother tongues and I intended to give these guitarists an article, albeit sometimes a stub, in English. To do so, I need to restore the redlinked names you removed, if you don't have any objection, in order to have at hand precisely which guitarist I am researching and translating. Thus, would you mind if I undid your recent redlink removals? I should be finished translating all guitarists in about 2 months. Many thanks for your kind consideration; ...much appreciated. PS. I would be amiss not to congratulate you on your amazing Wikipedia accomplishments—so many created articles and contributions! Bravo! best wishes, Natalie --Natalie.Desautels (talk) 12:20, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

@Natalie.Desautels: Thank you for the note and I appreciate the compliment. You can certainly work at this in userspace. I've taken the liberty of copying the redlink-filled article for you to work on at User:Natalie.Desautels/List of flamenco guitarists. That way you can easily keep track of the missing articles and then add the links back to the main article (List of flamenco guitarists) as they become available, satisfying WP:LISTPEOPLE and keeping the main list tidy while you work. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:57, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Dear IronGargoyle. Natalie.Desautels, myself, and others have determined that the redlinked artists are notable. The non-notable ones have been previously deleted. I have therefore restored the list. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 12:08, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
Dear IronGargoyle:

The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been. Because the group or set is notable, the individual items in the list do not need to be independently notable

The list has been restored again. Ping Natalie.Desautels. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 23:13, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
@IronGargoyle and Checkingfax: Many thanks! Having the complete list available at a glance will make my time working on this list more efficient. There are quite a few sources available, mostly in my various languages, and I'm eager to roll up my sleeves again. You may not have noticed, but some of the names which were not redlinked were actually linked to non-English articles. I indicated these after the name, (with a little [es] for Spanish for example) as a reminder to myself, with the intention of translating them as well, but someone took away all my guidelines, and together with the redlinks disappearing, ...well, the redundancy started to accumulate and I had moved on ...after all, there's no shortage of interesting articles needing translation on Wikipedia ...some great ones in French!! But I am passionate about flamenco, so I'm glad this list is now in order, with a clear, visible path to follow. Many thanks once again; very much appreciated. very best wishes, Natalie --Natalie.Desautels (talk) 23:38, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
@Checkingfax: I understand where you are quoting from, but you seem to be willfully ignoring the WP:LISTPEOPLE guideline. And I quote: "A person is typically included in a list of people only if all the following requirements are met: *The person meets the Wikipedia notability requirement. *The person's membership in the list's group is established by reliable sources." Please knock it off. You two have what you need in userspace. IronGargoyle (talk) 02:17, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

PCGS article

Please do not waste your time arguing with the axe-to-grind troll who regularly vandalizes the PCGS article. He is a coward who uses a VPN to hide his identity.--PhiladelphiaInjustice (talk) 00:30, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Revoke talk page access of a blocked user

Based on what this user has done with their talk page while blocked, it may be a good idea to revoke talk page access from User:Jose rico taco nacho quesadilla mandela jones, whom you recently blocked. Thanks! 2607:FB90:2700:E2D0:0:2A:A39C:C101 (talk) 19:12, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Page access revoked. Thanks! IronGargoyle (talk) 19:18, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Uechi-Ryu--Help with Edit War

Sorry to bother, but a user: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/32.97.110.58 keeps changing the order of the Major Organization section without explanation. I reverted the edit and requested this person discuss it on the Talk page for Uechi-Ryu. I also asked for a more senior member to vet the situation.

As I explain on the Talk: It is very subjective which organization "is more bigger important awesome" than another. For example, currently, the first organization listed is very small, the third is bigger than the second and the first, but advocates of the fifth could argue their organization is bigger than all of them!

I am not aware of a way to OBJECTIVELY resolve such fights, but I would like it to end. I fear members of every organization could potentially play with the order to satisfy whatever personal agenda the member has. For the record, I have not ordered/re-ordered the organizations based on what I think since it is not objective and the situation changes.

Thanks!98.227.140.14 (talk) 07:02, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Good work on clearing out all those redlinks from the lists of orchestras. It was much overdue. I'll try to keep an eye out for the redlinks creeping back, but these days I'm often away from Wikipedia for long periods so I miss a lot of what's going on. --Deskford (talk) 17:17, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

I'd like to serve as a 3rd party in between you and User:BlackAmerican. I think that most of these *can* be referenced as existing, though notability will definitely be more of an issue. The 60 miles google maps ref on the other hand needs to be Nuked from Orbit.Naraht (talk) 16:05, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

That's fine. I have no problem letting the entries be re-added if independent, reliable sources can be found for them. In fact, I selectively left the entries that User:BlackAmerican referenced. At the moment, however, you'll notice that the editor seems to be more interested in blindly reverting and ignoring the improvements that we've made to the article. IronGargoyle (talk) 16:27, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
I referenced everything in quick fashion. Sorry I have to get back to work. The 60 miles google maps, shows that the original black fraternities Alpha Phi Alpha was influenced by Gamma Phi and Pi Gamma Omicron via CC Poindexter who went to the school that Pi Gamma Omicron was founded. He later went to Cornell and established Alpha Phi Alpha. Everything is inter connected and the 60 miles away is original research unless a reference is given. BlackAmerican (talk) 16:37, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Let's move the discussion to Talk:List of African-American Greek and fraternal organizations, OK?Naraht (talk) 16:45, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Battle of Karnal edit

The Battle of Karnal took place on February 24, not February 13. Even the Wikipedia entry for that battle says so. I deleted the line from the February 13 entry because it's wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.208.33 (talk) 18:17, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

You are invited to discuss a controversial article you edited previously

You are invited to comment on the article "List of expeditions ordered by Muhammad" in the Wikipedia Administrators Notice Board. Your input is highly valued as you edited this article previously.

Click here: Controversial Islamic Article-90% of page wiped out by Muslims, possible bias to comment--Misconceptions2 (talk) 03:33, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Misattributed IP 70.119.101.208

Hello IronGargoyle

Not terribly important, I recently got this message, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:70.119.101.208&diff=cur. I believe that is my ip address, although I did not make the changes. I do have a account, although I tend to not log in just for viewing.

Just let me know if there’s anything I should do, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeff.hykin (talkcontribs) 02:05, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Vroman's Bookstore

Hi,

You have removed the content that I've added to the Vroman's Bookstore page. I'm wondering why you thought this information was not neutral. It was all information that described the history of the store. Thanks. ACVroman (talk) 20:57, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

It was clearly promotional and your username indicates that you are likely affiliated with the organization in question. Please review WP:NPOV and WP:COI. IronGargoyle (talk) 21:37, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi about the google cast

So you deleted the page I made, I would like to say that, it was no mistake Google did change the name of the Chromecast to Google Cast so I redirected the page to what it now is.


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Please discuss at Talk:Chromecast before moving the page and never perform cut-and-paste move. If there is consensus, the move function should be used instead. IronGargoyle (talk) 22:26, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Would I be able to send a request to an administrator who can move the page to Google Cast — Preceding unsigned comment added by LegendUK4WIKI (talkcontribs) 22:31, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Transilvania

Simple the wiki should live the true not bidding so I got something to say First in Transilvaniaef Carpii whas the name of free Dacians Second the Roman empire take just 40% of old vulgar Latin DACIA The history of Transilvania or old DACIA is the nation born of -romanians and is very important to notice and don.t ignor the Dacians born Flavius Aetius a Roman general got a final and decisive victory over Attila all this are true and more like jhon huniadis who whas born from the Romanian family with Romanian name wich is ignored and this is not all I wonder why and wich interested is in this situation? Adrian focsa (talk) 23:39, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

IP 67.5.192.83 and Terry Bean

Hello. The IP you just removed TPA from is the latest incarnation of user Lurie2 who has been going after Terry Bean since at least October of last year, obviously feeling they have a score to settle (see this section on my talk page, linking Lurie2 to both this IP and a long string of other IPs, all geolocating to Portland, Oregon). So it's not a temporary problem that will go away after the 24h block has expired... Thomas.W talk 19:55, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

I didn't set the block length, I just saw that the editor was using the talk page for disruptive purposes while blocked. IronGargoyle (talk) 20:01, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
I know, I just want more people to know what it's about since I'm tired of watching the page, and also won't be here as much as I used to be. Thomas.W talk 20:08, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Jamie Masada

I'm wondering why you insist on adding all that non-neutral stuff and keep interfering with my trying to get rid of it? Miep2 (talk) 20:29, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

I didn't see that version as particularly non-neutral and you just removed a bunch of maintenance tags and a bunch of referenced content without explaining why. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:29, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Well excuse me, but most if not all the 'stuff' that's mentioned on the Wikipedia-page *now*, is already on the www.laughfactory.com-site (doesn't Wikipedia want all those 'sob-stories' (like Richard Pryor handing him a bill of $100) gone? Don't they want an objective story? Like one single line for, say, how he opened the LF, supported by a reference, and then one line for the Comedy Camp, supported by a reference, and then on to the Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners, with a reference, and then the free Jewish services, with a reference?). That was EXACTLY how it was, you know, before people started butting in on March 24. Look here, Gargoyle, Mr. Masada has asked me to clean up this English Wikipedia page as good as possible and then translate said page into Dutch and French, likewise with the Laugh_Factory page. And I was just succeeding in that, I thought, with WORKING links or references. Miep2 (talk) 20:47, 30 March 2016 (UTC) Oh, and something else? I 'explain myself' on the history-page (you know, to the upper right of the page you see tabs 'read', 'edit source', 'edit', 'view history'?) Miep2 (talk) 21:18, 30 March 2016 (UTC) I'm very tempted to get rid of the 'march on Pennsylvania Avenue' but that's actually *not* mentioned on the site, so I'll leave it be for now.Miep2 (talk) 23:21, 30 March 2016 (UTC) I also just removed that 'this page has issues'-box, as that dated from 2014 and a lot has been done about it since then. Miep2 (talk) 23:37, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Lord Rothschild

Hey, was I wrong about Lord Rothschild? You reverted my edit, and I thought I was accurate. Leonig Mig (talk) 08:04, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Can you identify the edit more specifically? I may very well have, but I'm not seeing where I reverted your edit. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:25, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

If we consider the "List of..." articles as informative in themselves, can you just removed the wikilink code, leaving the actual name? If not, the "List of ...." becomes a "List of ... with wikipedia article" which defeats the purpose of having the list in the first place. It is not a NavBox. I appreciate your hard work. I was just wondering, since by removing the names, the lists become incomplete. Thanks for you consideration on this.--Coquidragon (talk) 16:51, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

I've been careful not to remove redlinks and non-notable entries from comprehensive lists (i.e., lists that contain every member of a certain category) nor to remove well-referenced list entries. This follows the logic of WP:LISTPEOPLE and WP:LISTCOMPANY. Can you be more specific about the list(s) you have a concern about? Thanks. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:22, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Pash Bash

I *suspect* they're not actually a sock, just raiding my recent contributions for random material to use in their nonsense, and that pagename is exactly the one from that bunch that I CSD-tagged earlier and thus is in my CSD-log. (They also just welcomed a new user without contributions that I reported to UAA for a blatant username violation--not someone they'd have come across--copied my user page to their own for a bit (then messed around with it and blanked it. Earlier, they copied-then-pasted-then-blanked Bongwarrior's user page...shortly after Bongwarrior reverted their edit to my userpage)

Still, they're blatantly not here for constructive purposes. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 22:35, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

I recently blocked another editor for a username violation that was editing with a very similar modus operandi to Pash Bash. IronGargoyle (talk) 00:30, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Ah. Part of a longer chain/well known case, or no/no clue? Looks like several of the puppeteers' sock-drawers opened up again over the past week or so, anyway. At least, been seeing a fair few blockevaders, IPsocks, ducks, attack usernames and similar come past. (Spread over several puppeteers, for the cases where I could figure out which string of discarded and blocked socks they belong to) Too much folks having too much time on hands due to Easter holidays, maybe? AddWittyNameHere (talk) 00:55, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Why was KAUU removed?

About KAUU, it does serve Central Utah but it moved to Farnsworth Peak now, making it not a Central Utah station anymore as there are no other Salt Lake City stations on that list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.185.205.62 (talkcontribs)

Ok, that makes sense. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:32, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

linkspam ref

Hello, what does "linkspam ref' mean in this edit you made? DGtal (talk) 21:51, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

One should generally avoid linking to the organization's own website as a source in a list. Sources should be independent. See WP:ELNO and the section below on the same page, as well as WP:LISTCOMPANY. IronGargoyle (talk) 07:28, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
So if the hebrew language article on the group (he:חב"ד למען ילדי צ'רנוביל) has independent sources (this is probably the best) I should pick one of them as a source? DGtal (talk) 08:35, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
As far as I can tell from a rough Google translate that reference would probably be adequate. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:32, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
I found an English version of the page, so I hope now all is in order. Thanks for being diligent. DGtal (talk) 06:54, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Not every IP is a vandal

Appreciate your correction to my talk page, but please try to remember that not every IP is a vandal. 32.218.32.184 (talk) 18:03, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

I have never visited this wiki page and got a message from the mod regarding an edit I supposedly made. Is this a sign I am being hacked (confused) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.33.243.49 (talk) 23:08, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

April 2016

My edit was from a neutral point of view. It was explaining what animals are designed for. --Trisha Gaurav (talk) 20:59, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

That would be original research in addition to a non-neutral point of view because it wasn't referenced either. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:30, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Why'd you cancel my edit?

My source is me. I'm the person that the article is about. IDK how all this works. Email me directly. Petemittler@gmail.com BigRed1025 (talk) 16:02, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

You removed referenced material. Please see WP:RS for a description of what a reliable source is (it's not the subject), and you might also want to see Wikipedia's guidelines on conflicts of interest. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:32, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Help to correct George Aguilar pg.

phy pg is not true george born in 1930 is not married to Josiane Balasko My brother George born in flint Michigan february 25, 1955 is married to Josiane our mother was born in 1923 .you may check on google images or in Georges IMDb it is not correct for George Aguilar to get credits for a life of work what hurts is that this error even takes note of mt two nephews who passed away. i need help to move this wrong info off the page Thank you Yoliemom — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoliemom65 (talkcontribs) 05:22, 14 April 2016 (UTC) IMDB is not a reliable source. Please see WP:RS before making further changes. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:34, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

2016-17 NBA season

That's Not Fair why did you redirect the 2016-17 NBA season Article for 68.102.40.154 (talk) 14:26, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

The information wasn't sourced and the sources you were using seemed to be bogus. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:28, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Blanking of Angola, Indiana

The blanking of Angola, Indiana was a result of some student, as this is the IP address of a school. --165.139.22.113 (talk) 15:13, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Stop Vandalising Sardinian People Article

Sardinians are related with corsicans, italians and catalans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.39.122.204 (talk) 15:56, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Please see the discussion on the talk page. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:32, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Deleted contribution to the List of wine personalities

Dear IronGargoyle, I am contacting you to find out why my contribution is being rejected? Thank you in advance, Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Milimar71 (talkcontribs) 18:14, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Please see WP:LISTPEOPLE. You should generally only add people to lists if they already have an article about them or their notability is attested to by independent, reliable sources. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:27, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

wasserman schultz

Why did you remove the additional race that I added? You claim it is disruptive? How is adding the only missing race to the almost complete list as disruptive? I have reverted your revert. Please review the list before disruptively removing...okay? Perhaps, you don't like that I included it? Please explain! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CE98:1510:4CEF:D74C:D98C:4A0E (talk) 18:22, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Ok, that makes sense. The question mark was throwing me and it seemed like it was some sort of political statement, but I see you've removed it. Sorry about that. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:26, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Well surely you can remove that if a place keeper offends you. Other would call that a typo. I have just about reached my fill of people who interfere and vandalize work of others who TRY to help in this project. I have had my fill with others that are disruptive to people trying to help. I suppose wiki doesn't need my help. Thank for the encouragement and assistance and false charges for others to form a judgment. Do what you want friend! Perhaps you can get a barnstormer award. Besides, I shouldn't have to explain myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CE98:1510:4CEF:D74C:D98C:4A0E (talk) 18:33, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

It was just a misunderstanding and I apologized. Relax. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:37, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Squealbot

Is posting gibberish on its talk page even after being blocked. Feinoha Talk 21:28, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Jaunpur

Hi, reverting my corrections in Jaunpur article was a mistake on your part. The names in the native languages (Hindi, Urdu )are misspelled. I am more into real life, so I have no time to discuss that with you. Enjoy keeping the mistyped names, if that pleases you! :] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yak~cswiki (talkcontribs) 01:11, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

I fixed it back. Sorry about that. I saw "hi" get added to the infobox and thought you were saying "hi" and not noting, as I considered upon further reflection that you were noting the language was Hindi. IronGargoyle (talk) 20:51, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

List of Breweries in San Diego

I do not understand why you keep taking down the breweries in San Diego that I have added or the organizational structure that depicts where breweries are in San Diego. Within San Diego, many of the areas have much higher density of breweries and the new organizational system shows that. Going through, you can now see that North Park and Miramar, for instance, have many more breweries than Downtown or Pacific Beach. This also provides room for future growth of the brewery industry (which is happening). As for not having articles for each page, that is work in progress. Many of the breweries on the page do not have wikipedia articles, but are still allowed on the page. Trev_fro (User talk:Trev fro) 2:43, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Trev_fro, and thanks for your interest in San Diego breweries. I am not IronGargoyle, but I am a frequent editor to that page (and in fact I was the original author of it). I'd just like to say that I agree with IronGargoyle's changes. In order to be listed here, a brewery has to have received significant coverage, written about it by independent reliable sources (such as general-circulation newspapers). Breweries that have a Wikipedia article already meet this standard. A few others are included with a reference to show significant coverage. San Diego County has more than 100 breweries, but we do not list them all, only the most noteworthy. As for the neighborhoods, that was a nice thought, but not really helpful for the list; some have multiple locations, others are in poorly defined neighborhoods, and there is little or not sourcing to support what neighborhood we assign it to. (For example, you listed Karl Strauss in Bay Ho, which is not a bad guess, but the company itself says it is in Pacific Beach.) I know you worked hard on these additions and I'm sorry they don't meet Wikipedia's criteria. If you want to try writing articles about individual breweries, you should realize that we pretty much only have articles about breweries that have won multiple medals in international competition. There certainly are some such breweries that we don't have articles about yet, and if you'd like to start a draft of an article in your sandbox. I'll be glad to help you with it, and I will copy this note to your talk page where we can continue talking about it. --MelanieN (talk) 00:14, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism?

That looks like vandalism. Grammar's Li'l Helper Discourse 19:36, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

fire department editor doesn't add sources or communicate

Your recent edit to the article for Elizabeth, New Jersey removed edits made by User:69.125.36.151 as "unhelpful". I agree. This editor makes a wide range of edits related to fire department articles and sections about fire departments in municipal articles. I can deal with formatting issues, such as this editor's desire to use initial capitalization for every word. The real issue is that no sources are ever added. I have never been able to verify the changes, even in cases where there are sources available about the department. I've left warnings about sourcing and messages on the editor's talk page. I'm not sure that the edits are incorrect, but I have been utterly unable to communicate with this editor.

Any ideas. Alansohn (talk) 19:06, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm going to call B.S. on the edits. The editor adds that Patterson, NJ has a fire boat but the navigability of the Passaic River is pretty dubious that far up river and I scoured Google Maps for anything looking remotely like a dock in Patterson and I found nothing. IronGargoyle (talk) 19:55, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
After the IP troll had edits reverted, it looks like we have a new user making these same edits (see these recent contributions). I agree that the edits are problematic, and wonder again if you have any ideas on dealing with this editor. Alansohn (talk) 14:38, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Doesn't look like an editing test on whale shark

Hi, IronGargoyle. I saw your revert of User:Squid404 on the whale shark article and the editing test warning you gave them. Why would you think this is an editing test? The edit seems to be an attempt to fix (what they thought was) a grammatical syntax issue and I'd imagine that receiving an editing test issue removal notice after their edit would be rather annoying to the editor. As for the grammar, I support the change back to "whale shark" so that's not the topic, it's the dubious use of the "edit test" warning template. Here an edit summary like "I believe 'whale shark' is the proper capitalization", an link to the manual of style, or something similar would have been appropriate. Jason Quinn (talk) 04:21, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

I believe the editor in question already got a related note regarding the manual of style issues. I agree that it's probably not blatant vandalism (hence the test template), but when someone makes a nonconstructive edit and their only edit summary simply describes the edit without any sort of justification, I don't think a level one test template is too bitey. IronGargoyle (talk) 14:11, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
I think even calling it non-constructive edit seems uncharitable. Despite the January warning given for the same mistake, it is very likely the user still thought they were improving the article, and we ought to still think so here. The user appears to have tried to edit only three periods, in January and March and now. I find it very likely the user did not see the edit summary in January explaining the incorrectness of these capitalizations and is too inexperienced to make sense of a general "use the manual of style" warnings they've been given on their talk page. What they need is a personalized message about these edits pointing them to MOS:LIFE. A belated welcome message would also be nice. I will do it. This is the difference between being welcoming and cold to newcomers. This is a user that appears to want to help the encyclopedia and it is somebody who has demonstrated long term interest in editing. This is a person we want to stick around and help get up to speed. Jason Quinn (talk) 18:25, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Boomerang

Hi! Please could you give me the link for this? Thanks... 81.141.40.109 (talk) 18:15, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Sure. Follow this link through to the individual coaster pages (they are already linked individually in the list of installations) and you will see that every installation of Boomerang has the same particular height, speed, and seating characteristics. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:19, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
Thank you.
http://rcdb.com/914.htm says 'Height: 85 ft' - ?
Why does RCDB say 3 inversions yet Boomerang (roller coaster) says 6?
81.141.40.109 (talk) 18:39, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
The height is an odd issue. Maybe it is a model variant? I think 116.5 ft is probably consistent enough that we could footnote the different one. I fixed the inversion issue. Presumably they were counting the ride-forward inversion and the ride-backward inversions separately (experienced inversions vs. physical inversions). I don't think that's appropriate, so I changed it to 3. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:46, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

regards to the slippering article

I thought back in the day, they slippered people in the face. I just don't understand why it was removed. 24.218.101.82 (talk) 20:30, 16 May 2016 (UTC)24.21.28


Regarding Diabolic (rapper) article

My sources were very accurate, plain and simple. It was proof that I personally researched and witnessed myself. Please read the citations and reference links next time and you will see that it's all based on facts and not speculation. Regardless, I shortened the section down significantly and left the two paragraphs someone else wrote about it with a link to the comments section.

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.248.94.218 (talk) 16:14, 18 May 2016 (UTC) 

Valarie Kaur Page

Hi -

I removed the autobiography flag on the Valarie Kaur page as she did not create the post herself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.204.40.120 (talk) 16:26, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Subhas Gupta

Apologies for the misplaced speedy notification earlier, I must not have noticed the move or else there was a brief glitch in the Wikimatrix. Judging by the log for the page, I'm guessing the editor created it with the disambiguation in the title to get around the fact that Subhas Gupta is salted after repeated A7 deletions. RA0808 talkcontribs 17:19, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Delaware Military Academy

Please link verifiable sources...your cites are dead... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phils8008 (talkcontribs) 14:00, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Can we talk about Huggle?

I’m reaching out to you because our logs tell us you’re a highly active Huggle user (top 20, actually). The Wikimedia Collaboration Team is researching a project that we hope will be useful to people who use Huggle and others engaged in edit-review and anti-vandalism. Using artificial intelligence programming (in ORES) and other means, we believe we can create feeds of Recent Changes that are better tailored to the type of work you do, helping you to be more effective and efficient. (The technology will have other benefits as well, which we can talk about.)

We're in the early stages of planning this and want to speak with people like yourself to better understand your work, goals and issues. If you’re interested in helping, I’d like to set up a time to meet by video conference, so that you can explain and demonstrate (via screensharing) some of your workflows, and we can ask and answer any questions.

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Electronic harassment

I already put in a request for page protection, but I get the feeling the IP is going to continue making as much of a nuisance of themselves as possible until that happens. Since you seem to be active, I figured I'd let you know in case you were willing to semi-protect the page yourself. Thanks either way, MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 21:08, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey

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Beer discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Beer#Awards which you may wish to participate in. Thank you. --MelanieN (talk) 18:01, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection

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Request for page protection of the Sardinians and Corsicans articles

Hi, IronGargoyle. There are in fact two anonymous IPs engaged in edit war on these two pages (1 and 2). In particular, one of them tries to remove the reliably sourced info the first one has posted on the basis of his/her own personal POV, without the consent of other users. It's always the same guy, even if it has different IPs (I also tried several times to tell him/her it'd be time to create a single account, to no avail). I hereby make a request for the protection of these two pages... For a long time.--Dk1919 (talk) 11:07, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins

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Please note that TOTP based two-factor authentication is now available for all administrators. In light of the recent compromised accounts, you are encouraged to add this additional layer of security to your account. It may be enabled on your preferences page in the "User profile" tab under the "Basic information" section. For basic instructions on how to enable two-factor authentication, please see the developing help page for additional information. Important: Be sure to record the two-factor authentication key and the single use keys. If you lose your two factor authentication and do not have the keys, it's possible that your account will not be recoverable. Furthermore, you are encouraged to utilize a unique password and two-factor authentication for the email account associated with your Wikimedia account. This measure will assist in safeguarding your account from malicious password resets. Comments, questions, and concerns may be directed to the thread on the administrators' noticeboard. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:33, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

A new user right for New Page Patrollers

Hi IronGargoyle.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.

If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins).MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

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Pakistan has no immigration policy. The Afghans arrived to Pakistan after Soviet invasion in 1979. Unlike in other countries, they cannot ever become Pakistanis. They will all go back to Afghanistan and then there will be NO MORE Afghans in Pakistan, except those who visit the country for up to 3 months (period of visa limitation). Your version of Afghans in Pakistan is giving readers the wrong idea about Pakistan.

Look at Immigration by country — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ranginkhantheonefromswabi (talkcontribs)

Immigration doesn't have to be legal for it to be immigration. IronGargoyle (talk) 20:36, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Armenia

Varj26 (talk) 21:19, 12 December 2016 (UTC)Stop changing it to Western Asia. For Azerbaijan, it has NO MENTION of Western Asia, why do you want it to say Western Asia for Armenia's page only? It's ridiculous. Stop changing it.

This has been extensively discussed in the past on the talk page and the consensus favors Western Asia. Furthermore, the new target makes very little sense as it is only to a disambiguation page. IronGargoyle (talk) 02:04, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Ren & Stimpy episode guide change

Could you pls redo my changes, and fix the season 1 page so it just shows the eps on the list of eps? i tried all i could, and i'm new to doin' that. The Ren & Stimpy Show (season 1) - Fix that so it just shows episodes on the list o' episodes, PLS --TheJasbre202 - REAL (talk) 02:00, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

It's fine as it is for now. The list is not too long. A sub-page for individual seasons is not needed. IronGargoyle (talk) 02:03, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Okay, i'll try to do it myself (try) and the reason is because theres a ton of info on each season that should be on the seasons, and i think it needs the sub-pages, but just my opnion. I'll let ya know if it doesn't work, thx again! :) --TheJasbre202 - REAL (talk) 02:21, 17 December 2016 (UTC) Finished! - Hope ya like it, the page is completely updated to the MAX! List of The Ren & Stimpy Show episodes --TheJasbre202 - REAL (talk) 06:50, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Outback Steakhouse Article did not need to be protected

Unprotect the Outback Steakhouse article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.199.160.101 (talk) 14:33, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Nope—there is a large amount of persistent vandalism, recurring over several days from multiple IP addresses. Unprotection is not warranted at this point in time. You can use {{Edit semi-protected}} on the talk page to request edits if you wish. IronGargoyle (talk) 20:32, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks for the heads up

Iron Gargoyle,

Thanks for the heads up. I've fixed my signature. KoshVorlon 21:38, 3 January 2017 (UTC) This text should appear as plain black text on your usual background

Tag/filter tripping

Is it possible that my account could be confirmed so I can stop tripping filters like this? Home Lander (talk) 18:22, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

New Wikiproject!

Hello, IronGargoyle! I saw you recently edited a page related to the Green party and green politics. There is a new WikiProject that has been formed - WikiProject Green Politics and I thought this might be something you'd be interested in joining! So please head on over to the project page and take a look! Thanks for your time. Me-123567-Me (talk) 18:37, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Smile!

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13:38, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Stoney Curtis Bio Edits

Hello,

I recently had updates that I made on the Stoney Curtis Page deleted. The name Stoney Curtis, Celestial Inc, and Lethal Hardcore are all names that I have trademarked I own the company Celestial, Inc and Lethal Hardcore is my brand name. I have been directing under the name Stoney Curtis for over 20 years. I have proof of this I can submit if necessary. Please let me know the necessary steps I can take to have my bio on here updated as previously submitted or what parts of said submission are not acceptable, etc.

Thanks, Stoney Curtis Celestial Inc/Lethal Hardcore — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigasslover123 (talkcontribs) 11:35, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

I'm guessing Special:Contributions/Bperks1 is the same as Special:Contributions/70.172.220.190. Home Lander (talk) 22:22, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Afro German page

Hello! Thank you for letting me know about the information that I added. I re-added the information with a link to an external source to verify it. I am new to Wikipedia, so I appreciate your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sascha.samedi (talkcontribs) 00:17, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
For your active role in reverting my edits. Take this barnstar as a sign of goodwill. SethMakaiWamboi (talk) 20:49, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

ARE U A BOT?

ARE U A BOT? FactCheck1723 (talk) 18:30, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Nope, I'm not a Bot. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:36, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

The Book of Henry synopsis

Hi! I'm with Focus Features and I'm updating our films' pages to reflect the correct content for each. Please let me know if there's any issues with the edits I'm making.Kcarag (talk) 19:51, 3 March 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcarag (talkcontribs) 19:48, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Please see my note on your talk page about editing with a conflict of interest. You should not be removing independently cited material and adding links to your own company. IronGargoyle (talk) 20:02, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Editing a film's page

How can I edit a film's page to reflect the right content if I work for the film's studio? Is it a conflict of interest if the materials posted aren't accurate and I'm merely updating?Kcarag (talk) 20:03, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Ashkenazi Jews

Check the Khazar Hypothesis section of the talk page for the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ultrabomb (talkcontribs) 23:06, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Yuan Dynasty sexist trolling by chinese ethnocentrism

There is a lot of content from Chinese wiki users who highlight the enslavement of various peoples of non-Chinese origin during the Mongol rule of China. In fact, this page should focus on the social environment of Han Chinese people during Mongolian rule. It appears to be based on Chinese nationalistic intent and skews the page incorrectly. Please enforce a truthful and balanced account of history. Even if it is referenced to a source, the intent is damaging to students who may study Chinese and Mongolian history. Please keep this site free of harmful political, sexist, and ethocentric racist content. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tongolss (talkcontribs) 23:38, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Bots Newsletter, April 2017

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KK

The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been. Because the group or set is notable, the individual items in the list do not need to be independently notable, AND IT WOULD NOT BE VERY PRACTICAL TO MAKE A DESCRIPTION EXPLAINING THAT MY FRIEND AND I ARE REAL BECAUSE WE ARE NOT "FAMOUS" AND JUST WHO CARES Caitlin and gracie (talk) 18:33, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Added citation for C Street House

I added a citation as requested by you and restored my edit but need help putting the citation in theright format. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.5.186.122 (talk) 18:37, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

About your reccomendation.

  I don't really know how to add a source for this, since they feature "dp" on every video. Should I put youtube?

Sportseditor (talk) 15:04, 10 May 2017 (UTC)sportseditor.

Sorry, that was my mistake. You're fine. IronGargoyle (talk) 15:17, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

PalmerSport

Do you agree with me that page reads like an advert? And any genuine encyclopaedic content in it could be included in one single line on the "Jonathan Palmer" page

It is clear advertising in my view which is ridiculous because that's not what Wikipedia should be for. The entire article goes on about positive reviews and then lists the features of the business. It resembles marketing copy very heavily — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThebeOkonma (talkcontribs) 18:32, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

It's not a good page. I agree. Nominating it for deletion (as you've now done) is a better solution though than blanking it. IronGargoyle (talk) 23:17, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Brewmeister (brewery) (section)

I edited the page because the controversy was around the claim that Brewmeister knowingly sold beer that did not reach it's advertised ABV, rather than focusing on one of the many blogs that called them out on it which is what the article currently does. It calls out said blogger for making comments on the brewery, then states that there is no evidence that his job affected his opinions therefore negating the reason for him to be mentioned by name. I think the change was warranted to clarify? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gracebw (talkcontribs) 13:23, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Gotcha. IronGargoyle (talk) 23:17, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

I'm curious as to why you are removing redlinks. They are a convenient way to identify what work needs to be done. - kosboot (talk) 21:56, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

I'm not removing all redlinks. I'm just removing them from lists of people so that these lists comply with WP:LISTPEOPLE. While ordinarily redlinks can serve exactly the purpose you suggest, they are problematic in lists of people (and to a lesser extent, lists of organizations). These lists often have problems with non-notable entries being added. Without independent reliable sources supporting their notability, it would be impossible to distinguish between a valid redlink and an indiscriminate or vanity entry on a dynamic list. IronGargoyle (talk) 23:16, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

DYK

Hello! Your submission of Soo Yeon Lee at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! North America1000 02:09, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi IronGargoyle. Congratulations on your 100,000th edit! It is good to see you back at deletion review with your closes at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2017 June 9.

For "Redirects to Wikipedia:Good articles", I have redirected Good articles, Good article, Good Articles, and Good Article to Wikipedia#Wikiprojects, and assessments of articles' importance and quality and nominated the redirects for discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 June 18#Redirects to Wikipedia:Good articles.

For "Michael Mangini (record producer)", would you undelete Talk:Michael Mangini (record producer)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 08:35, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Tantalus

Hi, thank you. I don't have a source. How do I find one? I have a book by Frieda Benedikt, pseudoname: Anna Sebastian, who have wikis. Tantalus is the name of the vacuum cleaner in her novel, that's why I looked it up. I didn't see it in the influences section, and I thought it might as well be in there. I'm not internet savvy. How do I go about adding it correctly. Its legit, here's a quote: "Tantalus! cried Jonathan. 'You know me! I'm your friend, I'm with you! You can't kill me. Not me, Tantalus, not me!"

Thanks for any help. Ohioturnpike (talk) 23:14, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Zachary Ailes

You left a message for me about how Wikipedia writes about living people. I made a mistake when posting an edit and just now took it down. I replaced it with a number of proper sources. Bigskyusa1776 (talk) 01:37, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

User: Doug Coldwell and I did not get credit for the DYK. We were belatedly added as co-creators. Could you help? Thanks. 7&6=thirteen () 00:17, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Moving DYK preps to queues

IronGargoyle, thanks for your recent moves of prep to queue for DYK. It really helps.

I wanted to let you know that there's one final step to the process, after you've copied the prep into queue, added the DYKbotdo template to the latter, and cleared the prep of the hooks and credits: updating the next prep number. The page that's on is Template:Did you know/Queue/NextPrep, you can get to it by clicking on the link on the Queues page immediately under the Preps header (it says NOTE: The next prep set to move into the queue is with the prep number that you just did move: click on the "update count" link and increment the number there to the next number in line; I just updated "3" to "4" after you moved Prep 3 to Queue 3. (Of course, the "increment" from Prep 6 is to Prep 1.) BlueMoonset (talk) 02:02, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Oops, I missed that in the instructions, sorry. I will try to remember that for next time. IronGargoyle (talk) 02:10, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Soo Yeon Lee

Hello! Your submission of Soo Yeon Lee at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:00, 22 June 2017 (UTC)