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Proposed deletion of Rule of threes (survival)

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I made this article some years ago before I knew what really belonged on Wikipedia. I have no clue how it survived this long (pun intended), but it's time for it to go to a faraway farm now. I say this since it's more of a how-to article (and has been tagged as such since 2017, and from the rationale from the talk page.

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Thanks

	Gratitude of the Kākāpō
	These baby Kākāpō and I want to thank you for your close of the recent move discussion. It's not every day you see a close with a result of "page moved/not moved"! Firefangledfeathers (talk) 02:47, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I saw your talk message at WikiProject_Indiana about your proposed Purdue project. I could support it, but will not contribute to it. Happy see another Indiana user. I have a distant dream of an Indiana meetup someday. Interested? --Jaireeodell (talk) 01:08, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jaireeodell maybe one day! It would depend on location and timing. Invinciblewalnut (talk) 06:44, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, Invinciblewalnut,

Is there a reason to have a second category for Wikipedians who went to Purdue University besides Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: Purdue University? If this was a mistake, please tag it for deletion, CSD G7, as the page creator. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:27, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Tropheryma

Hello. You appear to have made lots of changes here. Please could you explain your actions?

Thanks. YorkshireExpat (talk) 13:08, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@YorkshireExpat Sure, I was removing the random " marks from the article title and body, as well as fixing redirects. I'm assuming the italics issue stemmed from a misunderstanding of ' ' (with a space for clairity) vs. " If you think the page should be just Trophyeryma and not Trophyeryma whipplei that's fine. Invinciblewalnut (talk) 13:12, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I admit I'm not an expert in the taxonomy of bacteria, but according to LPSN the names of taxa that aren't validly published are placed quotes. I don't know whether that is widely used notation, but it does serve a purpose.

Also, per WP:MONOTYPICFAUNA, these pages should reside at the genus level, if you accept that bacteria are fauna.

Cheers. YorkshireExpat (talk) 13:23, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Huh, the more you know. Tbh I was not aware of that, nor am I accustomed to most of wikipedia's naming rules. I was going off of what I've seen in other articles and personal experience. I've never seen T. whipplei used with quotations (at least in the medical context, as I am a medical student), so it's perhaps not a widely used notation. I wonder what they mean by "validly published," seeing as the corrected name was, well, published in an international journal. What makes it valid? Invinciblewalnut (talk) 22:52, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Valid" is term of art and means that certain provisions have been adhered to (see Rule 27 on pages 28-29 of this PDF if you're interested in details). Among the provisions is that it is necessary to make an explicit statement that a new taxon is being described ("sp. nov." is an acceptable short hand way to do this), a description must be provided, etymology must be provided, and (for a species), a type strain must be designated, and samples of the strain must be publicly accessible in institutions in two different countries. Genera must have a designated validly published type species, and families must have a validly published type genus. The type strain of Tropheryma whipplei (per LPSN), only held in a single country (France), and thus isn't validly published, which leaves the genus and family also not validly published. "Effectively published" is another term of art that is closer to the normal meaning of "published" (rules out scrawling on a napkin, posting photocopies on a utility pole, as well as "publication" in the form of a newspaper advertisement). Plantdrew (talk) 15:51, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Invinciblewalnut, YorkshireExpat, and CambridgeBayWeather: as of this morning I'm joining those who better should have left the name structure along. I thought that only the species name was invalid and the genus article & family should thus be at locations w/o quotation marks, but nope - it goes right down to the family [1][2][3]. I think I have managed to undo all of my zealous moves and retargets. Sigh. Also added a mention of this to the article, so that the next guy doesn't fall into the same pit.

One thing I am not sure about is whether these temporary names should have representation in the automatic taxobox system. Currently we have {{Taxonomy/Tropheryma}}, which displays as '"Tropheryma"', and {{Taxonomy/"Tropherymataceae"}}, which actually is in there with quotes. One of these is clearly inappropriate but I don't know which. Plantdrew, can you comment? --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 10:19, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Elmidae:, I've held off on implementing automatic taxoboxes for bacteria for this reason. There are only 16 taxonomy templates with quotes, and most of them are for frogs where there's debate about whether the taxon should be treated as a genus or subgenus (and it appears that none of the quoted templates are actually being used). "Tropherymataceae" is the only bacterial taxonomy template with quotes (there may be others that don't have quotes in the template name, but which have quotes in the displayed output). Much of the higher level taxonomy for bacteria isn't validly published. "Bacteria" itself isn't validly published according to LPSN, and many phyla and classes aren't validly published. All of the validly published phyla were only validated in 2021 (but we can probably expect more validation of higher ranks in the near future). I'd suggest that Wikipedia shouldn't include quotes in taxonomy template names or displayed output, but that should probably be discussed at TOL (with a notification at WikiProject Microbiology). Plantdrew (talk) 15:51, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Plantdrew: thank you! I did not know that this was such an endemic issue with bacteria. It might be best to make that taxobox manual then for the time being, so the content is not dependent on any particular taxonomic template configuration. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:41, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Elmidae I seem to remember doing some experimenting when putting this together to achieve the right output on the article, so some of it may not be entirely neccessary, and I suspect it is the quotes in the family taxonomy template title. The genus_text and species_text params for the automatic taxobox let you add quotes at those levels, but creativity was needed to get them on the family name. YorkshireExpat (talk) 18:01, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Not trying to troll you, but FDU! Tails Wx 21:27, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh trust me, I know. I literally puked watching that game when it ended. Invinciblewalnut (talk) 21:31, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, man, it was a wild game! Our team went down as well, both men's and women's! It's all Miami's fault. And FDU's cinderella story ended early, BTW. Tails Wx 21:33, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Purdue University in Indianapolis

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