User talk:IbnTashfin97
March 2020
[edit]Hello, I'm M.Bitton. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Almohad Caliphate have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the help desk. Thanks. M.Bitton (talk) 23:42, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
July 2020
[edit]Your recent editing history at Almohad Caliphate shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. M.Bitton (talk) 19:55, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Fatimid Caliphate, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. M.Bitton (talk) 23:00, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
Almohad caliphate
[edit]The Almohads were Etnicaly Moroccan Amazighs (Berbers) from Atlas Mountains of Morocco, you cant Say "north Africa" since North Africa was Ruled by Different Groups and States IbnTashfin97 (talk) 16:40, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
January 2021
[edit]Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Zirid dynasty, you may be blocked from editing. M.Bitton (talk) 17:56, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Ok so Keep Faking the History of North africa IbnTashfin97 (talk) 17:19, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Almohad Caliphate. VQuakr (talk) 17:39, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Almohad Caliphate; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Points to note:
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. M.Bitton (talk) 18:13, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Dispute?? So you can Debate with me with Arguments and you call it now edit war?? Seriously such a Pathetic move M.Bitton another Proof that you know Nothing IbnTashfin97 (talk) 18:18, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Almohads Caliphate and Almoravids
[edit]First of all My Friend The Almohads Berber Group of MOROCCO, they are Different groups amongs Berbers, Berbers of Morocco are not same as Algerian Or Mouretania Berbers for example the Kabyles in Algeria are not The same as Masmuda Of Morocco...is like Saying all Europe is the same, like Prussia is Western European Empire and Not German...its Make no sense. Do you understand now? About Almoravids... the founder of this Empire Was ABDALLAH IBN YASSINE a MOROCCAN Berber from SOUSS (Central Morocco) he was the First Emir and The First Capital Was Aghmat (city Near Marrakech), Mouritania Was conquered Later by Them. I hope you understand my Point, because i Studied North African History and myself i am North African. IbnTashfin97 (talk) 15:35, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion
[edit]Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:IbnTashfin97 reported by User:VQuakr (Result: ). Thank you. VQuakr (talk) 18:30, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Edit warring at Almohad Caliphate
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. Per a complaint at the noticeboard. EdJohnston (talk) 18:44, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
January 2021
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. Doug Weller talk 18:50, 4 January 2021 (UTC)February 2022
[edit]This is your only warning; if you remove or blank page contents or templates from Wikipedia again, as you did at Algeria, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. M.Bitton (talk) 12:24, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I'm Adakiko. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Algeria, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Adakiko (talk) 12:31, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Oh yeah there is an error in the Mapping... can You give the source for Example when The zayyanids or Ifranids Conquered Morocco and Tunisia? Thanks IbnTashfin97 (talk) 12:38, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Why do you keep removing the mention of Western Sahara from various articles? M.Bitton (talk) 12:40, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
You need to explain this before editing any more articles
[edit]Please explain what you meant by your question about "Petro dolar money" here? Is it some form of accusation against M.Bitton? Also, why did you state in the same post that you haven't removed Western Sahara in any other article than Almoravid dynasty, when you clearly had done so just 20 minutes earlier in Algeria?[1] Please respond below to these questions before editing any more articles. No hinting, but clear explicit explanations, please. This is a warning from an administrator. Bishonen | tålk 13:27, 20 February 2022 (UTC).
Ok...then lets talk about History. I removed some maping errors in Algeria History like for example the Ifranid and zayyanids map... Can you explain to me how these conquered Tunisia and Morocco? In what year and what Ruler? Can You give the sources? I just did a small edit not big change... i can give the sources. Thanks. IbnTashfin97 (talk) 13:53, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Also the Map of "ottoman Morocco" when its never Existed, the ottomans never controled Morocco, even the Capture of Fez was done by Moroccan Sultan Abd Al Malik and not the Ottomans... Again can you give me the sources.
IbnTashfin97 (talk) 13:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- No, thank you, let's not change the subject. Please answer my two questions in a straightforward way. That is all that is needed. I'm not here to discuss content or sourcing with you; I'm here purely as an administrator. No more evasive answers, please. Bishonen | tålk 14:04, 20 February 2022 (UTC).
- I didnt change subjetct, i started talking about History in First please, look at my first comment...
- Now you are Talking about acusation... and i am Talking about SOURCES, its not hard to understand.
- I said that to Bishonen as a joke, because with some money you can change Everything you want isnt it?
- Again i did a minor changes, the mapping and a small text, they are to many errors, the problem is that in other Wikipedia articles with the same subject but you will find contradictions...
- Again can you answer my questions?
- Sorry for my english and i hope i get responses IbnTashfin97 (talk) 14:21, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you don't seem to understand what I say. I do understand there's a language problem. But I'm going to assume that when you say you said something to Bishonen (that's me) as a joke, you meant that the "Petro dolar money" was what it sounds like: a personal attack and assumption of bad faith against M.Bitton (not Bishonen). As a "joke". Are you really on joking terms with M.Bitton, such that they'll be amused by an accusation of being bribed to edit? And you have nothing at all to say about the untruth that you posted at the same time, namely that you hadn't removed Western Sahara from any other articles than Almoravid dynasty. If I have misunderstood you, feel free to clarify further below, but please stop changing the subject. I started this section with two questions, which were not about maps and sources. Nothing to do with maps and sources. You then immediately and completely changed the subject. I do not understand what you mean your "first comment", since you didn't start this section; I did. This section is supposed to be about this edit of yours, nothing else. You have been partially blocked from article space for a month. That means you can't edit articles, but you can edit all other pages. Note that if you use that to attack anybody ("joke" with them), you will be blocked from the entire site. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Bishonen | tålk 15:37, 20 February 2022 (UTC).
- I'm sorry you don't seem to understand what I say. I do understand there's a language problem. But I'm going to assume that when you say you said something to Bishonen (that's me) as a joke, you meant that the "Petro dolar money" was what it sounds like: a personal attack and assumption of bad faith against M.Bitton (not Bishonen). As a "joke". Are you really on joking terms with M.Bitton, such that they'll be amused by an accusation of being bribed to edit? And you have nothing at all to say about the untruth that you posted at the same time, namely that you hadn't removed Western Sahara from any other articles than Almoravid dynasty. If I have misunderstood you, feel free to clarify further below, but please stop changing the subject. I started this section with two questions, which were not about maps and sources. Nothing to do with maps and sources. You then immediately and completely changed the subject. I do not understand what you mean your "first comment", since you didn't start this section; I did. This section is supposed to be about this edit of yours, nothing else. You have been partially blocked from article space for a month. That means you can't edit articles, but you can edit all other pages. Note that if you use that to attack anybody ("joke" with them), you will be blocked from the entire site. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text
Ok... i didnt ment to atack anybod, oh and i get confused btw you and Biton. So why you block me in Zirids dynasty Article with NO REASONS? Isnt that an atack from You? Explaim to me the reason then? IbnTashfin97 (talk) 15:42, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- (Could you please try to use colons to indent like other people do (look in edit mode to see how I do it), and especially not make every sentence a new line?) Ibntashfin97, I originally planned to block you from the whole site for a couple of weeks, to impress on you that you must engage civilly and reasonably with others. But I ended up making it from article space for a month instead, because it seems to me that your poor interactions with others is grounded in your article edits, which persistently remove sourced content without explanation, or change important content with vague and unspecific edit summaries such as "Some errors to correct" or "Minor changes" These are edit summaries that you used when removing Western Sahara from a couple of articles, as if you had merely made some minor corrections. I'm sure you know that Western Sahara is a disputed territory. It's a hot topic that must be handled with proper explanations and preferably after talkpage discussion. (Far from explaining anything, you evaded M.Bitton's question about these removals.[2]) But perhaps blocking you from article space for a whole month is too harsh. I have a question for you: would you agree to exchanging this month-long block for a 48-hour block from the whole site, for the personal attacks and untruths you have perpetrated? I'm willing to make that change on one condition: that you promise to hereafter use proper explanatory edit summaries, that tell the reader what change you made and why. Especially for article edits. As opposed to the kind of edit summaries that I quoted above. I hope you will reply to my question in a focused way, without changing the subject. Basically, you need to answer only yes, if you agree to my conditions, or no, if you don't agree. Bishonen | tålk 20:30, 20 February 2022 (UTC).
- @Bishonen: I just wanted to let you know that their claim, that they "didn't mean to attack anybody" or that it was a joke, doesn't hold much water given the fact that they have a history of personal attacks against me, such as
M.Bitton ... I smeal Algerian Money Here
[3] (also repeated here for good measure) and a lot worse (in the clearest possible terms). Best, M.Bitton (talk) 20:38, 20 February 2022 (UTC)- I know it's not a joke, M.Bitton. They were blocked for two weeks by Doug Weller for those Algerian money cracks in January; the diffs are right there in the log, so I've seen them. Bishonen | tålk 21:46, 20 February 2022 (UTC).
- @Bishonen: I just wanted to let you know that their claim, that they "didn't mean to attack anybody" or that it was a joke, doesn't hold much water given the fact that they have a history of personal attacks against me, such as
Well its the True Every body Know you pay for editing lmao that how Wikipedia Works lol and thats why nobody believe in it anymore speacially in historicall part... You have a nice day guys...
IbnTashfin97 (talk) 14:14, 24 February 2022 (UTC)