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Autopatrolled granted

Hi Ian (Wiki Ed), I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. However, you should consider adding relevant wikiproject talk-page templates, stub-tags and categories to new articles that you create if you aren't already in the habit of doing so, since your articles will no longer be systematically checked by other editors (User:Evad37/rater and User:SD0001/StubSorter.js are useful scripts which can help). Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! – Joe (talk) 14:56, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Entry re: Rose Marie Toussaint

Hi. I recently encountered Rose Marie Toussaint and looked her up to find information and found her Wikipedia page that I believe you primarily edited? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Marie_Toussaint. I don't think I would be up to the task of trying to edit it and get it accurate but there is much there that is out of date or not correct. It appears she has not been practicing as a surgeon for some time--several years? Not sure. She appears to have transitioned from transplant surgery to some form of general medical practice with a very heavy emphasis on "alternative" medicine and sale of supplements and the like through her website https://drrmtoussaint.com/about/

Macavity1971 (talk) 22:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Macavity1971. I haven't actually edited her biography. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 22:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes--I was just figuring that out--misread things a bit. sorry 'bout that! Macavity1971 (talk) 22:15, 3 February 2021 (UTC)


An idea for Wiki Ed in general

It would be nice if instructors reminded students to not move drafts into the main encyclopedia until some kind of review. This could be a "wiki" review like WP:AFC, it could be a peer review with classmates with the focus being on "is it notable/is it ready/will other Wikipedia editors send it to Draft: or to WP:AFD?", or it could be a "Wiki Ed" review using whatever processes the Wiki Ed team comes up with.

Also, there should be some situations where students are told ahead of time "if this happens, stop and consult with a Wiki Ed person if you aren't sure what to do next" including "My page was nominated for deletion/deleted/moved" or "my page was changed into something completely different" (e.g. this replacement of Joanna Gualtieri with a temporary instructional page, or this replacement of that instructional page with a redirect to Federal Accountability Initiative for Reform#History and impact). davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 15:27, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@Davidwr: a lot of this is built into the timeline including peer reviews (though the quality of those varies a lot) and a pretty nice (in my biased opinion) step-by-step process to get them to build an acceptable draft. Some students ignore these kinds of guardrails and run ahead of things (like these guys did - they aren't supposed to make more than minor edits at this stage of the project) and others rush through training modules. We're working on ways to get students to pay more attention to the content in the trainings and to get them to follow the scaffolding more, and to help the outliers.
I will get in touch with this instructor and ask them to remind their students to stick to the plan outlined in the Dashboard. And I think I should probably modify my welcome message to students so that it helps more with the kind of problems you're mentioning. Thanks again for all your help and your suggestions. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:43, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from DerekJLoewen (talk)

Hey Ian,

I got your message yesterday. Nice to meet you. I've found a few resources that may prove relevant to my topic "Britannia Superior" and placed them in my biblio section. Where would be a good place to begin dissecting these resources? As I read them I would like to have a space or page to take notes which will become my first draft/edit. I typically do this with pen/paper but since this project will be all online I'd like to do this process on my computer. Is this what the Sandbox is used for? Let me know if you have any relevant info. Thanks. DerekJLoewen (talk) 23:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)



--DerekJLoewen (talk) 23:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

DerekJLoewen, Yes, your sandbox would be a great place for that. Wherever is convenient for you, I think, is what's best. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Bibliography help

Hi, I was working on creating my bibliography and I accidently redirected it instead of just wanting to post it on my talk page. I"m very lost and confused right now because now when I click on the Bibliography link that is under my "Articles I'm updating" tab, it doesn't show any of the sources I just added to my bibliography page. It brings up the redirect options. I can't see anything I had just put into my bibliography and I don't know how to reverse this process. AndreaNwilliams (talk) 00:16, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

AndreaNwilliams, Looks like you fixed the problem. Is there anything else I can help you with? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

That is all for now, I am just still trying to understand the ins and outs of Wikipedia so might have some questions later on but thanks 172.249.50.23 (talk) 18:39, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Sandbox Draft help

Hi, I am having trouble getting started with my sandbox draft the my assigned article. I will be adding onto the Uncompahgre Fritillary article and when I select "Sandbox Draft" under my articles, it brings me to a user page and says "Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact name. Before creating this page, please see Wikipedia:Subpages. Start the User:AndreaNwilliams/Uncompahgre fritillary page. Search for "AndreaNwilliams/Uncompahgre fritillary" in existing pages of namespace User. Look for pages within Wikipedia that link to this title."

I am confused about what I am supposed to do next to begin working on my sandbox page for my article. AndreaNwilliams (talk) 23:31, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

AndreaNwilliams, You're getting that message because the page doesn't exist yet. That's the standard message. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:18, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Maskewmo (talk)

Hello.

I need help with finding where to critique the articles. It's not allowing me to go to my sandbox.



--Maskewmo (talk) 01:31, 6 February 2021 (UTC)Myddi

Maskewmo, Looks like you sorted this out. Is there anything else I can help you with? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:57, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Article Edit Help

Hey Ian, I just edited a page and think I did everything correctly but was wondering if you could check it for me? I'm worried the citations don't make sense but I'm not entirely sure how to cite a CRS report. Thanks! Dudebob5420 (talk) 02:47, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Dudebob5420, The reference looks fine. Reports like that are hard to cite - I'm never quite sure how to cite reports myself. I usually just go with "cite book" (which is one of the options on the cite tool, if you switch from the automatic tab to the middle tab which says "manual"), but that isn't quite right. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:39, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Emmacedmonds (talk)

Hello.

I need help with...



--Emmacedmonds (talk) 01:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Emmacedmonds, is there something I can help you with? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 01:40, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Need some guidance

I am trying to determine if I have actually assigned an article to myself. When I go within my dashboard it says I have, however, I get a notification with the following "Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact title. Before creating this page, please see Help:Subpages. To start a page called User:Syrupyflapjack/2020–21 Denver Nuggets season/Bibliography, type in the box below. When you are done, preview the page to check for errors and then publish it."

I am trying to edit this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%9321_Denver_Nuggets_season but have zero clue if it is actually linked to where I have started.

I am in this circular trap, any guidance would be greatly appreciated

Syrupyflapjack (talk) 04:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Syrupyflapjack, What you're creating here is subpage in your user space to create a bibliography. That's part of the exercise on the Dashboard. Since that page doesn't exist (yet) you're getting that message. It's totally normal. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:14, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Got that squared away thank you. now I am trying to edit my article in my sandbox-

Ian Are you familiar with this template on the article I am trying to update? I am clearly not using it correctly as it keeps inputting my changes way down the lineSyrupyflapjack (talk) 20:00, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

User:Ian_(Wiki_Ed)are you familiar with yet another template- any guidance on how to edit this template will be helpful for my article contributionsSyrupyflapjack (talk) 05:06, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Syrupyflapjack, I'm not an expert with those complicated templates. I think they're easier to edit using the visual editor than source editor. Click on the template in edit mode, and then click on the edit button that shows up to edit the various fields. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:52, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Shalor

This course description says that Helaine (Wiki Ed) and Shalor (Wiki Ed) (ReaderofthePack) are the Wiki Ed staff for that course.

The note on User:Shalor (Wiki Ed), says to contact you.

If the information about the course is incorrect, please ask the Wiki Ed Staff member working with these students to look at my comments here.

Thanks. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 21:49, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Requesting review for publishing

Hello Ian,

I am requesting a review for publishing of a new article.

Thank you

Xla*1378 (talk) 20:08, 11 February 2021 (UTC)



--Xla*1378 (talk) 20:08, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Xla*1378, I left you feedback at User_talk:Xla*1378/Sherilyn_Williams-Stroud#Feedback Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:14, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from MycaAnn87 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with... I am struggling to understand how to assign an choose and assign an article to myself.



--MycaAnn87 (talk) 18:34, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

MycaAnn87, this training module should help: https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/training/students/keeping-track-of-your-work -- Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:18, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
@MycaAnn87: Did that help?
@Ian (Wiki Ed): Does the WikiEdu dashboard track such activity? Have you seen WikiEdu program's effective integration with Google Classrroom? ...any LMS, like Moodle or Canvas?azwaldo (talk) 20:04, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Yanakigel1 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with sandbox it gave the following message:

"This is a user sandbox of Yanakigel1. You can use it for testing or practicing edits. This is not where you should draft your assigned article for a dashboard.wikiedu.org course. For that, visit your Dashboard course page and follow the Sandbox Draft link."

I did the modules again but still don't understand where I can draft.


--Yanakigel1 (talk) 18:16, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

@Yanakigel1: "This is a user sandbox of Yanakigel1..." means that page can be created by you. There is already a Yanakigel1/sandbox (I did the same thing myself), but there is no Yanakigel1/Sandbox (note capital "S"). You should be able to open either of those sub-pages in your namespace to edit. azwaldo (talk) 02:17, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
@Yanakigel1: If you go to you class's page on the Dashboard you should see a section at the top of the page where you can assign yourself an article. That will create links to sandbox pages where you can build your bibliography and draft your contributions. While you are free to use your standard sandbox, it isn't going to be where the Dashboard points your instructor to look for your contributions. They can still find them - everything you do on Wikipedia is linked to your username, as long as you are logged in - but it's easier for them to grade your work if you follow the steps on the Dashboard. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:51, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Nvitug (talk)

Hello.

I need help with... Choosing article and putting it in my dashboard. I have an a theologian and a topic in mind. How do I start?Nvitug (talk) 01:45, 15 February 2021 (UTC)



--Nvitug (talk) 01:45, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Nvitug, follow the steps in this training module. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:53, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Ksoto12 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with... creating a sandbox.


--Ksoto12 (talk) 22:18, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Ksoto12, I recommend you follow this steps in this training module. Make sure you are logged into the Dashboard (check the top right corner of the page). Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:54, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Jsm81017 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with drafting in my sandbox for an assigned course article. I went to the sandbox link on my course page and drafted in the sandbox draft link, but there was no "get help" link at the bottom of the page to ask for expertise and critiquing. There was only the "get help" link as the bottom of my practice sandbox. I was wondering if you can see what is in my sandbox jsm81017/plainsong and if I am drafting in the correct location.



--Jsm81017 (talk) 23:25, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Jsm81017, Yes, you're doing it right. Thanks for catching that in the trainings - it didn't get updated when we changed the way drafting works. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Jsm81017 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with my Wikipedia sandbox draft for jsm81017/plainsong. I was wondering if the formatting and flow of edit is ok to post to the mainspace. And if there are any noticeable errors on the reference section. Thank you, Jsm81017 (talk) 11:53, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Jsm81017, It looks fine. One small formatting thing - there shouldn't be a space in front of references - the should look like this[4] not like this [4] --Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:58, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Mike Martinelli (talk)

Hello.

I need help with... I am using a loaner laptop that I received from my University only a couple weeks ago. When I first logged on Wikipedia I was told that this IP was banned because a previous user "vandalized". When I asked for the ban to be lifted, I was using a VPN and I'm not sure if my ban was ever lifted or not. Could you please let me know if I have the access I need to do this course Geo 423 Marine Policy? thank you



--Mike Martinelli (talk) 18:05, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mike Martinelli: It seems you are affected by an IP block. You'll want to apply for an IP block exemption here. Just put in your username, mark that you're under an IP block, and explain to them what you explained here. An admin can then come around to put an exemption on your account so you can edit. Hope that helps! bibliomaniac15 04:34, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Bibliomaniac15. Mike Martinelli I've give you the IP block exemption, so you don't have to do anything further here. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:39, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for taking care of that for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike Martinelli (talkcontribs) 02:26, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello.

I need help with my summary I am trying to types it in my sandbox, but I could no find the option to start it. thank you



--2601:88:8200:62C0:61BD:DCA4:522C:F50C (talk) 06:18, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Unfortunately the problem is that you aren't logged in to Wikipedia. You need to be logged in here and logged in on the Dashboard for this to work. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:40, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Ana Swanson KSU (talk) 01:15, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ian, I am working on citations for something in my sandbox, but I'm not sure what to cite my sources as. Both are official reports, one from the United Nations, and the other from an NGO that works with the UN whose report was submitted to the UN Universal Periodic Review. I'm not sure if they fall under the category of book, journal, or website. I would greatly appreciate your help. Thanks!

Ana Swanson KSU (talk) 01:11, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Ana Swanson KSU, I always have a hard time deciding what to do with reports. Cite book is usually the simplest. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:31, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Ian

Hi Ian I was wondering if you could look at how I cited my list of plainsong music by Hildegard of Bingen and see if I referenced them correctly? Thank you Jsm81017 (talk) 11:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Jsm81017, The citations look ok to me. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:32, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Ian I'm don't think I am doing the project correctly, and I am very confused. My subject is animation. I'm not sure what to add, I thought I was doing it right but now looking over it, it doesn't seem so.

Need help request from Julianloll (talk)

Hello.

I need help with...



--Julianloll (talk) 04:16, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Julianloll, is there something I can help you with? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:37, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Kent lippincott (talk)

Hello.

I need help with finding the work I have previously published in my sandbox. I published the evaluation of my article and I have been asked to add a summary section. When I click on my sandbox it is empty.



--Kent lippincott (talk) 18:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Kent lippincott, you can find all your edits at Special:Contributions/Kent_lippincott. You can always find that page by clicking on the "Contributions" link at the top of the page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:39, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Vewo22 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with moving my wiki article to the main space. The training says that there should be a "more" pull-down option next to the search bar on my sandbox, but I do not have that at all. There is only read, edit, view history, and a Star. Please let me know what I can do to be able to make my work live.


Thank you,

--Vewo22 (talk) 23:11, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:47, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

"Reverse Zoonosis/Zooanthroponosis/Anthroponosis" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Reverse Zoonosis/Zooanthroponosis/Anthroponosis. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 February 22#Reverse Zoonosis/Zooanthroponosis/Anthroponosis until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Techie3 (talk) 10:50, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Just reverted two students

See Sustainable diet -- and the talk page, -- students didn't get very good advice for some of these classes it appears, Sadads (talk) 05:00, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Sadads, <cringe> at the alkaline diet addition. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:58, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
I've sent the instructor an email asking them to intervene with the students. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:21, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
hahaha right :P Panera and fringe diets -- totally rediculous -- the one student got it right wit the FAO content, Sadads (talk) 15:03, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from HeidiCI26 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with... finding the designated sandbox that I can share with my group so we can start working on our article. Please let me know how to find it, thank you.



--HeidiCI26 (talk) 20:33, 24 February 2021 (UTC)heidiCI26

HeidiCI26, Any group member can nominate their sandbox to be the "group" sandbox. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 22:02, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Question

Hi Ian, some how my recent article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Services_for_post_secondary_students_with_disabilities made it on to the main Wikipedia page - did you need to review it? I am hoping to make a like into the Student Services page. Have I done something wrong? thanks so much!Linda Lindachamberlain1 (talk) 04:21, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:46, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ian. I declined a G11 tag on this article created by a student on the Winter 2021 Concordia "Arts and Aesthetics" course. I don't think it meets that speedy criteria, but I'm not entirely sure it's ready for mainspace. I haven't researched the subject to be able to determine this one way or another; I'm just wondering what should be done next. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:55, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Ritchie333, Thanks for the heads-up (and declining the speedy). I moved it back to their sandbox, and I'm going to give them some feedback on getting it up to standard. If encounter student work that isn't ready for mainspace, it's usually best to return it to their sandbox - moving it to Draft space tends to confuse both students and instructors. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:05, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help editing an article

Hi Ian, thank you for offering to help. For my assignment, I plan on editing an article that can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_justice_reform_in_the_United_States I plan on including "immigration reform" as one of the sections in this article. Do you think this will be a good idea? Thank you for your help. Cocobutter295 (talk) 20:51, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Cocobutter295, while I think adding a section there would be helpful, bear in mind that there's a full article on Immigration reform in the United States. Obviously what goes in the criminal justice reform article is only a subset of immigration reform, and you should read Wikipedia:Summary style for some more tips in that regard. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 23:09, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Julianloll (talk)

Hello.

I need help with officially selecting my article. I've chosen the page on the Baojuan because it interests me, but I don't understand how to officially select it.

Thankyou,

Julian



--Julianloll (talk) 20:35, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Julianloll, this training module should help. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:08, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Student reported at WP:UAA

Heya, just wanted to let you know about a student reported at WP:UAA, HomoeroticMikePenceExperience (talk · contribs). Normally this would be a username that I would username block, but I wanted to hold off because of their student status and see if you could talk with them about a rename? bibliomaniac15 06:16, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Bibliomaniac15, Thanks so much for the note. I've contacted the student and their instructor. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:41, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from CeceK15 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with reviewing my sandbox. I was looking through the talk page for the WNBA and someone mentioned in the Finance section that they were looking for information and sources about the profitability and losses for the league. I added 2 sentences about the losses for the WNBA for the 2010 season and cited the information with a scholarly source. I am new to Wikipedia and editing so after it is approved in sandbox, then I can add it to the article? Thanks for your help!

--CeceK15 (talk) 13:50, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

CeceK15, Sure. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:26, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Cocobutter295 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with...


I am trying to find the sandbox page where I draft my assigned assignment. Do I used the same sandbox as the one on the top right corner of my wikipedia apage?Cocobutter295 (talk) 13:58, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

--Cocobutter295 (talk) 13:58, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Cocobutter295, Use the links from the Dashboard page, in the "My Articles" section. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:25, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Image uploads

Hello Ian,

I am having trouble uploading two figures that I generated to my Wiki Edu article Sandbox. A dialog box appears stating: "We could not determine whether this file is suitable for Wikimedia Commons. Please only upload photos that you took yourself with your camera, or see what else is acceptable. See the guide to make sure the file is acceptable and learn how to upload it on Wikimedia Commons." I drew the figure myself, so how can I resolve this issue? Thank you!

Nanomaterials21 (talk) 22:18, 27 February 2021 (UTC)Nanomaterials21

@Nanomaterials21:, Don't upload through your sandbox. Always upload figures through Wikipedia Commons using the link on the left sidebar. You can also use this link: c:Special:UploadWizard. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:25, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Mg6384nyu (talk)

Hello.

I need help with...


choosing an article


--Mg6384nyu (talk) 20:48, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Mg6384nyu, What sort of article are you interested in? What general topic area? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:07, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Comment

I am interested in the chelsea hotel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:413D:F01B:54CF:8D2F:8AF:1249 (talk) 21:14, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I'm not sure who you are since you aren't signed in to your Wikipedia account. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:24, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at WP:THQ § Article is semi-protected so I can not edit. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:06, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ian. Perhaps you or Helaine could help this student sort out whatever issues they're having. They are part of Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/University at Albany/Information Literacy in the Humanities and Arts (Spring 2021) and the two of you are listed as the course's WikiEd advisors. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:09, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Marchjuly, Thanks for the heads up. They should be autoconfirmed my now, but I left them a note to get in touch with me if they still have problems. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:21, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from BelleKahlua (talk)

Hello.

I need help with... finding where to draft my article for my course. The sandbox link when I click on it says " This is not where you draft your assigned article for a wiki course."



--BelleKahlua (talk) 02:20, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

BelleKahlua, you need to assign yourself an article on your course page on the Dashboard. This training module will help. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:45, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

heads up again

Just wanted to let you know I've left some comments for a student editor in one of your courses, I really think someone needs to reach out to them. The comments are here. CUPIDICAE💕 13:56, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Praxidicae. I emailed the instructor asking them to intervene, and I'm going to leave the student feedback on their draft. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:53, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Ian, I moved the draft back to draftspace again - it's completely inappropriate for Wikipedia and I've tagged it for deletion due to its completely promotional nature. I don't know what weight you can pull but the subject of the article in my opinion also isn't likely to be kept even if it were written neutrally, so maybe a suggestion of a better subject would help. CUPIDICAE💕 14:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Duplicate Image Upload

Hi Ian, I noticed typos in the two diagrams I had uploaded earlier, before my correct final 3rd image. The two images that should be taken down are named File:Single Crystal Growth Methods Diagram .png and File:Single Crystal Growth Methods Tree Diagram .png

I would like these deleted and it was my own work, but I wasn't sure what the process was for deleting images I had uploaded. It seemed as though there was a request and approval process. Please let me know how to proceed, thank you. Bookrabbitwitch (talk) 22:06, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Bookrabbitwitch, you can edit the page on Commons and add {{delete}} and someone should be along to clean it up. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:20, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Question for my talk page watchers

Hi all. I got this question from an instructor

However, in case they use direct citation which they translate themselves (using quotation marks), how should they note that they are the ones who translated that citation from Chinese to English? in academic articles in journals we just note (my translation) but I imagine there is a protocol in place here for wikipedia?

I'm pretty sure there's a (semi)standard way to mark these things (I mean, there's always a template), but I don't know what it is. Spent a while poking around, and I still haven't found a good answer. Anyone know? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:58, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Ian, I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. So if they are translating a citation from, say, a Chinese medical journal? If that's the case it isn't really applicable because a direct translation would still be a copyright violation, even with attribution. CUPIDICAE💕 13:56, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
Praxidicae, I assumed it was for very short quotes, but I see they could also mean a longer quote. It's a good point to start with the copyvio explanation, and probably discourage any quotations that need to be explicitly marked. Excellent point. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:40, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
There are ways to cite non-English reliable sources using the parameters |lang=, |script-title=, |trans-title= and even possibly |quote= (see the documentation for Template:Cite web for some examples of how this can be done) that work with different WP:CTs; so, a summary of what's written in the source or a short quote might be OK to be used even for a translated source as long as WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE and WP:C-P aren't issues. I wouldn't think, however, it would be appropriate to add any type of WP:OWN statement/clarification like "My translation" to any article, but perhaps it would be OK to do so in an edit summary. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:33, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Marchjuly - Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:41, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Lexierennella (talk)

Hello.

I need help with...



--Lexierennella (talk) 20:40, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Lexierennella, is there something specific I can help you with? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:43, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikied q

Hi Ian, hope all is well. I created Elysia marginata as a stub this morning with the intention of expanding it tonight. Now I see a student in Wikied has been assigned it. So I’m wondering what I should do now— I don’t have a problem stepping back; there are more than enough other articles in need of attention. However, if no expansion will be made, I will likely not remember to check back in and it will remain a stub for a while more. Happy to do whatever you think would be the best course of action here. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 22:30, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Eddie891, I suspect the student just picked it because it was listed as a stub. You could just leave them a note explaining that you created it this morning with plans to expand it tonight. I'm sure they'd understand. On the other hand, if you want me to leave myself a note to ping you about the article in a couple months, I'm happy to do that. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 23:00, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Ian (Wiki Ed), If you could do that I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm happy to see what the student can do with the article-- besides, I have a few high profile article rewrites about 2/3 done that I really want to push through so I'll head over there. All the best, Eddie891 Talk Work 23:30, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from The Social Experimenter (talk)

Hello.

I need help with...



--The Social Experimenter (talk) 01:01, 12 March 2021 (UTC) Hello, I am trying to transfer my edits to my Cancel culture page to finalize my assignment and turn it in. My assignment is due tomorrow. Thank you and I look forward to hear from you soon. The Social Experimenter (talk) 01:01, 12 March 2021 (UTC) The Social Experimenter

@The Social Experimenter: how can I help you transfer your edits? What questions do you have? Let me know. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:16, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Need your advice with sandboxes

Hello Ian! I need your advice on using someone else's sandbox. I am working on a topic about "Deaf Gain" and someone in the past has created the article and post it on the wikipedia. However, according to my professor, it has been taken down due to several reasons. I would like to start edit and work on that article to improve its context. Is that appropriate to edit on someone else's sandbox? Or should I go ahead and edit on my sandbox? What should I do? Thanks in advance. Alanakay13 (talk) 17:45, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Alanakay13, I wouldn't edit someone else's sandbox without discussing it with them first. Unless it's someone in your class that you want to collaborate with, I think you should probably work in your own sandbox. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:18, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Help Request

Hi Ian! My name is Hope and I just finished a section of an article for my wiki ed class and feel as if it is ready to be moved into the live article page. I was wondering if you can look it over and also if I can move it to the live page or if that is something you have to do. Here is a link to my sandbox. Thank you, hope to hear back from you soon! Hrobertson2 (talk) 22:48, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Fahowlett (talk)

Hello.

I need help with...advice on how to proceed. I received a notification last night that at this point, the quality of the sandbox work was about a C (intermediate) without any clarification or suggestion on continuing work. I couldn't tell where it came from nor can I find the comment again. I would appreciate it if someone would suggest to me what if anything is strong, what is weak, and what kind of information needs to be added to make this a better entry.

Thank you, FelicityFahowlett (talk) 16:40, 14 March 2021 (UTC)



--Fahowlett (talk) 16:40, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

appropriateness of edits and Wikipedia policy

Hi Ian, I explained clearly in my edit summary here why I was reverting, only to have the professor revert me with no explanation and reintroducing extremely promotional material that appears to be closely paraphrased to a few sources. Aside from the promotional nature, I think it's still important for all editors to adhere to WP:BLP and WP:V, which means that we shouldn't be allowing or encouraging people to put things like "xxx is a shapeshifter" in the lead of a BLP. VAXIDICAE💉 18:33, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

@Praxidicae: even before all that, instructors should never, ever edit war. I will email them. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:37, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
I'll also note that I'm pretty offended by their accusation of colonial violence and general assumption of bad faith. Everything about this is inappropriate. I recognize that Wikipedia may not always appreciate Native (or other non-mainstream) culture but at the end of the day, it's still an encyclopedia with policies that are based on our ability to verify content and this isn't an exception. VAXIDICAE💉 18:40, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Ugh. I hear you. I'm sorry this happened. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:46, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
And it's still continuing. I hate doing this - I get that Wikipedia is often confusing in academia because academia allows for, as the instructor themselves said, more creative sourcing but we do not. If this were a regular editor, I'd have taken them to ANI but I haven't because I was hoping Wikied would deal with it but comments like: fact vs, fiction is, again, enacting white violence on indigenous cultures., why don't you try to understand more about "shape-shifting" and its relevance within indigenous cultures and two-spirit identity? Don't engage in more colonial violence on indigenous cultures. after me informing them of BLP and WP:V are unacceptable and if it continues, I will be requesting a block through the community. I really do appreciate the efforts to be more inclusive of BIPOC and trans figures but I think we need to err on the side of caution with regard to BLP, especially when editing articles about people who are extremely likely to face harassment and violence. Ignoring WP:V and WP:BLP for the sake of inclusivity does no one any favors. This is one area that frequently frustrates me with Wikied and I think a better effort needs to be made to really hammer home how important WP:BLP and WP:V are. VAXIDICAE💉 18:56, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
And I'd be willing to talk further with you (or anyone else from WikiEd) about that last bit off-wiki if you're interested. VAXIDICAE💉 18:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, and I'm really sorry about the trouble. I hope they heard my entreaty - I'm optimistic that at least I got their attention and we can begin a conversation. By the way, if you see behaviour that warrants a block, you can always ping me. I have less compunction about using (partial)blocks on students than on other editors (especially given the fact that I have other avenues to help sort things out)
As far as communicating V and BLP (and a lot of other things): yes, I know we need to do better at communicating that. The problems isn't putting information in front of students, it's about getting things in front of them in ways that stick. Sage (Wiki Ed) has been trying to do more of that with the whole new scaffolding around article writing (you can get a sense of what it looks like here). Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Sorry, I meant more getting it through to the instructors rather than students. I'm pretty sympathetic toward students because as I said earlier, a lot of academia is incompatible with editing Wikipedia (as a newbie and as a requirement for a class as opposed to a hobbyist) because it allows and even often requires original research, close paraphrasing and non-neutral tones and Wikipedia is an anomaly in that regard. But I do think that their instructors have an obligation to understand more of the ins and outs of Wikipedia than I think they actually do. Anyway, thanks for the help! VAXIDICAE💉 19:57, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


Need help request from Cmadison98 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with...

Moving my article out of my sandbox



--Cmadison98 (talk) 22:50, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Cmadison98, looks like you figured it out. Nice work on that article! Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:09, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Curtsy ping

Hej, I stumbled across an edit by one of the student editors and left a comment on their talk pages. I never encountered class assignments and related edits on wikipedia, so I don't quite know what is standard here. I thought I left you a note. Here is the link: User_talk:Thomasgraziadio Best --Mvbaron (talk) 14:39, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Mvbaron, thanks for the note. It's great you're interacting with the student, I think it's really valuable for them to see how their contributions to Wikipedia function in "the wild", and to learn more about the fact that Wikipedia is a community of people trying to craft knowledge. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:50, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
+1 thanks, I just noticed pinging you isn't necessary. :) Mvbaron (talk) 14:55, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
well actually since I'm here: I do believe the "peer reviews" aren't really doing their job... I noticed on another student editor that showed up on my watchlist that the peer reviews are generally positive - but don't actually look at the cited source and provide valuable critcism. Anyway, I don't know if there's a good solution, maybe make it clear to the peer reviewers that they should compare the cited sources? Mvbaron (talk) 15:00, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia Article on the mainspace question

Hey Ian,

You are the Wiki ED staff member that is assigned to my English class. I recently just moved my Wikipedia article titled, "Christ Community Health Services" from my sandbox, over to the Wikipedia mainspace. Although it is in the mainspace, when I search it up on the internet, I cannot find my article. The only way to access my article is via my Wiki Ed course page. Have I done something wrong? Here is the link to my article Christ Community Health Services HabeshaKid (talk) 15:11, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

HabeshaKid, It can take a while for Google to index a page, so you shouldn't expect it to show up right away. That's particularly the case if the article has no incoming links from other Wikipedia articles. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:14, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Brennan24 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with... I was editing something in my sandbox and I can't find it anymore.


--Brennan24 (talk) 16:53, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Brennan24, you can find every edit you've made my clicking on the "Contributions" link at the top of any page on Wikipedia. There are two things that could have happened - one is that you left the page without clicking "publish changes" (in which case your changes are lost, since until you click that button the changes only exist in your browser window). The other possibility (which is less common if it's your sandbox) is that someone changed the page after you made the edit. If you, it will still show up in the page history. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:17, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Creating Article

Dear Ian,

I am a member of a class that is learning how to edit Wikipedia through Wiki Ed. I have an assignment where I must either edit or create a new page on any concept. I was planning to create a new page about Mozart's Allegro in D Major piece that was recently discovered. I was told that creating new pages is not encouraged, however I was wondering if I could write about this for my assignment? Please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks

Helicopter331 (talk) 05:05, 18 March 2021 (UTC)Helicopter331

Helicopter331, it all depends on the sourcing you can find. If you can find enough high-quality sources (preferably academic works) to write something substantial that's about that piece (not background about Mozart or his other works) then it's fine.
I would start by adding it to this page: List of compositions by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, in the appropriate section (since it doesn't seem to be listed there, but it may be under a different name; I don't know). Have a look at some of the pieces that have their own articles - do you have enough to write something similar? Honestly, I'm surprised how short some of them are, so look around to see something that has at least three sections, maybe something like this one: Adagio and Allegro in F minor for a mechanical organ, K. 594. In the end, you'll have to make a call as to whether you feel like you have enough. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:13, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Students Needing Grades

I know. You appear to be addressing me, but I assume that you are actually addressing anyone who is paying attention. If there is one student with the idea that their grade depends on getting an article into Wikipedia, the student has usually misunderstood. If there are two students with the same idea, the instructor is probably misusing Wikipedia. I haven't seen two or three students with the same idea, meaning that it was the instructor's wrong idea, in the last few months, but I have seen it often enough for it to be an annoyance. I know. You aren't telling me anything I don't know, but you do have to tell students editors and instructors. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:00, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Robert McClenon, I never know how much someone takes in from the instructions we give them - I've seen instructors tell students they need to move their work to mainspace despite what we tell them. But I've also seen students insist that they need to move their work to mainspace even after I've been copied on an email from the professor telling them not to. With that many students, you see all sorts. Still, I'm going to add that to my list of things to take a careful look at how we word them across our training materials.
I know you know, but I think it's best to say "ping me" in as many places as possible. The more I can do to relieve the burden on volunteer time, the better. I know you deal with a firehose of stuff at AFC. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:11, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Nautas99 (talk)

Hello.

I would like to know if the plan I have in my sandbox for the deer article sounds good and get some feedback on the sources I have listed.

--Nautas99 (talk) 20:46, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Nautas99, if you're going to contribute to a top-level article like deer, keep in mind that what you're adding should be as broadly applicable as possible, not just applicable to a few species or a single country. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:55, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Help/Clarification with drafting an article for my class

Hello Ian. I need some help or clarification on properly drafting an article. I have started making small additions and working from my own page. I am beyond confused. I can't get a straight answer. --JACOBHARRELL17 (talk) 20:54, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

JACOBHARRELL17, If you assign yourself an article as outlined here you should have a lot easier time following the steps to draft your work. If you have more specific questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:12, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you Ian (Wiki Ed). --JACOBHARRELL17 (talk) 23:31, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Moving an article back into my Sandbox

Hello Ian, I apologize for a possibly silly question. I inadvertently published my article before receiving approval from my Professor. Is there a way for me to move my now live article back into my sandbox? Thank you, Aerindeleon3 (talk) 00:43, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Aerindeleon3, it's fine. Your article looks good to me. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:13, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from 77lemonpie (talk)

Hello Ian,

I need help with my group's sandbox and get feedback on our game plan so far. I'm chosen to house my group sandbox it is 77lemonpie/OrnothologistsL01 sandbox. It's not the red link on the top of my personal sandbox, that was just a mix up Dr. Schutz said would be fixed.

Thank you so much! Janet Chen

--77lemonpie (talk) 02:56, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

77lemonpie, your plan looks good to me, though I'm not an expert on vertebrate anatomy. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:39, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Knowl8dge (talk)

Hello Ian,

I need help with...

I would like for you to review my suggested edits in my Draftarticlesherpetology sandbox, for the Axolotl added citations as well as the Shark anatomy added citations in the Respiratory System section as well as the Skeleton section. I have only outlined a draft of other edit ideas, not word-for-word edits I would like to make. Thank you!


--Knowl8dge (talk) 05:08, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Knowl8dge, I can't say too much about content (that's what peer reviews from your classmates and feedback from your instructor might help with). I did notice that you listed a Wikipedia article among your sources. This might be a mistake, but I just wanted to remind you that Wikipedia isn't considered a reliable source for Wikipedia articles (though the sources used in another article might be good ones to use). Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:45, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Jessicavelo1 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with...

editing sandbox for my course


--Jessicavelo1 (talk) 21:09, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Jessicavelo1, can you explain what problems you're running into? Thanks. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:45, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Need Help Request from Ben Rininger

Hello Ian! Ben Rininger from Kent State here! I tried emailing you, but it didn't work. Could you take a look at my debt restructuring sandbox to make sure it is up to Wikipedia Standards in all relevant regards (sources, wording, grammar, relevance and structure of information, etc.)? The last time you commented I only had one paragraph, and I had barely gotten started. I really appreciate the help. -Ben https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BenRininger/Debt_restructuring

@BenRininger: It looks fine. You should avoid terms like "crippling" debt, since that's a term that's both imprecise and very emotionally loaded. Try to find more neutral ways to describe things. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:17, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Kspyle (talk)

Hello.

I need help with... finding were my sandbox link is to begin drafting.


--Kspyle (talk) 22:10, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Kspyle, you need to assign yourself an article as outlined here. They you'll see the link under the My Articles section here. Note that you have to be logged into the Dashboard to see this section. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:13, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Professor needs a wikiedu coach

Greetings Ian. Good work you are doing. I found your name on the course page for a course that worked on Climate Change in Mexico. Do you "assign" coaches for professors using Wikipedia assignments for the first time? I am an editor working on WikiProject Climate Change and a friend of mine is enthusiastic about making Wikipedia assignments. She clicked all the links she can click, and now wants to talk to an actual person who can help her. I've never taught a course, so am at my limit of usefulness. Her course is Fall 2021, but the planning needs to be done by the end of May. Can you help? PlanetCare (talk) 15:06, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi PlanetCare, we can only work with professors in the US and Canada, but if your friend is in one of those countries, we do provide quite extensive (free) support for instructors. There's an overview of what we do at teach.wikiedu.org. We have a wizard that helps them create a course page on our Dashboard, and we provide support for instructors and training modules for students.
If your friend isn't in the US or Canada, we can put them in touch with the Education Program in those countries. The level of support differs from region to region, based on the local infrastructure and chapters. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:01, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
She is indeed in the US, teaching at both MIT and Bentley University in the Boston area. I will send this correspondence on to her and she will have the links you mention.
Another question, a Wikipedia editor-friend told me she thought other MIT professors were making Wikipedia assignments. I looked in vain to see if I could find any evidence of that on wikipedia or wikiedu. If there are other MIT professors doing this, would you know about that? And could you put us in touch with them? With appreciation, PlanetCare (talk) 19:06, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Yes, there definitely are MIT faculty who run classes on Wikipedia in partnership with Wiki Education. It's possible to find this information by digging through current or past classes on the Dashboard, the easiest way for them to find out more would be to email my colleague Helaine (helaine@wikiedu.org). They could also chat with Phoebe Ayers (User:Phoebe) who works at MIT libraries. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:24, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Excellent. Thanks for this information.PlanetCare (talk) 19:43, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Need a reviewer for my article

Hello Ian! I was wondering if you can read this article and see if there are changes that I need to make to it. Thank you! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Regulinecoast1/Artificial_general_intelligence Luke — Preceding unsigned comment added by Regulinecoast1 (talkcontribs) 17:13, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Regulinecoast1, think about how your edits are going to fit into the existing Artificial general intelligence article. If you're writing a background section, try to do it in a way that complements the main artificial intelligence article. A brief summary that points to a longer section in that article is probably ideal. Your goal should be to give readers of this article enough information to orient themselves, while pointing them to the main article if they want more depth. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:06, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Question about sourcing

Hello Ian, I was wondering if it is ok to use a Mediawiki powered site edited by physicians and run by the american academy of ophthalmology as a source. the site in question is eyewiki.org. Thank youDshelby1 (talk) 20:08, 25 March 2021 (UTC) just to add to my earlier question the specific page I am asking about using as a source is https://eyewiki.org/Arcus_Senilis Dshelby1 (talk) 20:34, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Dshelby1, while it might meet the reliable source standards for non-medical content, I suspect it wouldn't meet meets the medical sourcing guidelines. You could ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine for a more definite answer. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:48, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from NEUwikiLL (talk)

Hello.

I am confused where to draft my article changes. In my sandbox, it says that is not the correct location and to follow the Sandbox Draft link on our WikiEd page - however, that link leaves me no place to save the page without directly publishing it, and also says that no page exists for that title.



--NEUwikiLL (talk) 22:00, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

NEUwikiLL, it looks like you've already assigned yourself an article, so just go here and you should see the links in the My Articles section. If you don't see them, check the top right corner of your screen to to make sure that you are logged in to the Dashboard. This training module should help orient you. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:55, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Dudu120 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with... where I will start drafting my article.



--Dudu120 (talk) 03:39, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Dudu120, it looks like you've already assigned yourself an article, so just go here and you should see the links in the My Articles section. If you don't see them, check the top right corner of your screen to to make sure that you are logged in to the Dashboard. This training module should help orient you. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:56, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

How to deal with redirect pages with same name

There are two pre-existing pages named Supernova neutrino/s which are redirect pages. I have created an article named Supernova Neutrinos and I want all the other two pages to be removed and rename my article to Supernova neutrinos (the standard protocol of Wikipedia). Astroriya (talk) 10:58, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Astroriya: A WP:Page mover can do this for you. Before we get to that, can you please fix up the punctuation on the page first? Semicolons, periods, and so on go before a <ref> tag, not after.
Also, to avoid an orphan article and help integrate it into the encyclopedia, the article will need in-links from other articles. Can you please start a section on the article talk page, which you could call "Possible in-links" or similar, and make a list of articles that are candidates for linking to it, once it's moved to the new title? See Talk:War guilt question#In-links and redirects for some ideas how to do this. {{Ping}} me when that section is ready, and I can help you with the move, if Ian is busy. Mathglot (talk) 11:13, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

@Mathglot: I have fixed the punctuation on the page. I have also made a Possible in-links section on the article talk page. Astroriya (talk) 11:53, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

@Astroriya:, Looks great. Turns out that Nathan2055 already moved your article and fixed up the redirects for you; now all you have to do now, is integrate it by clicking through your in-link candidates one by one, finding if and where in those articles you could add a link to your article, and link it. Sometimes the wording in the article might be slightly different, e.g., the text: "...neutrinos emitted by the supernova..." in Neutrino detector. In that case, create a piped link using the existing text as an anchor. You can also do a site-targeted google search, which yields more candidates, such as NOvA, Solar neutrino, Solar neutrino problem, Type II supernova, and you may find more if you page through the search results. Most of these will need piped links.
P.S. please read WP:THREAD about indentation and other Talk page discussion conventions. Good work on this article. Have you edited Wikipedia before enrolling in Astroparticle Physics? Mathglot (talk) 18:15, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you @Mathglot: for the help and suggestions. No, I haven't edited Wikipedia before and this is my first time. Nevertheless, it has been fun contributing to wikipedia. I am hoping to improve my articles to a good level through the help of the wikipedia community. Astroriya (talk) 04:35, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
You're welcome, and well done, you're on your way, and learning fast. Some feedback waiting for you at your Talk page, and at the article talk page. Mathglot (talk) 06:33, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks so much Mathglot. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:00, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Ed students choosing the institution they're attending as a topic.

I recently came across Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/College of DuPage/Technical Writing at YCHS--Spring 2021 (Spring 2021) and apparently one of the students is meant to edit the article on YCHS (the school they're attending). Looking back, I've noticed other students in courses taught by the same instructor have been assigned to edit or review the York Community High School article. I don't really believe this is a good choice of article due to the conflict of interest and I was wondering if you could advise the instructor/students on better assignment topics for the future. Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 23:29, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Chess, thanks for the heads-up. I agree, it's not a good choice. I will follow up with this. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:53, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Need Help Request Form Melisa Nur Temiz (talk) 18:55, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello I need help for my project. I am tryin to publish in real page but they are always deleting writing and they say its poorly written or not sourced even I sourced. Can you please help me what should I do? Melisa Nur Temiz (talk) 18:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Responded at your Talk page, here. Mathglot (talk) 04:50, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Accidental interference with a student project in an ongoing Wiki Ed course

Hello Ian, I noticed you are the Wikipedia Expert listed at the ongoing course, Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Fordham University/HIST 3626 (Spring 2021). One of the students in the course, Viviana2021vera, was assigned the article Charles Scribner's Sons Building on March 28, 2021. Without knowing this, I expanded this article for DYK purposes yesterday on April 1, before I noticed this article was tagged as part of the HIST 3626 course. I'm not sure what the procedure is for students who participate in this course, but I just wanted to let you know that I might have accidentally interfered with a student's work. If I did, I apologize for the inconvenience. Epicgenius (talk) 00:06, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher), Hello Epicgenius, this is just my own opinion (not Wiki Ed), but as long as you are there at the article making improvements, you're free to continue doing that, just like if any other editor were also contributing to the article. You're not "interfering", you're "helping" to build an encyclopedia. This is a collaborative project, and if a student is assigned to a project or contributing, that doesn't shut the door on the rest of us, regardless whether the other editors are students or not. So, just keep on doing what you're doing, if you're moved to. And thank you for your contributions. Just my 2¢. Mathglot (talk) 04:40, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Mathglot, thanks for your response. In the past, I've encountered Wiki Ed courses where I tried to clean up the page while the students were actively editing it, so I backed off for a bit until they were done. I was just wondering if I stepped on any toes this time around. Epicgenius (talk) 14:38, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: I agree with Mathglot - you aren't "interfering" with student work, you're improving Wikipedia. We encourage students to draft their work in sandboxes, and your improvements to the article don't stop them from doing that. You shouldn't worry about too much about it. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:33, 5 April 2021 (UTC)


Need help request from AshyCatInc. (talk)

Hello, Mr. Ian.

I need help with knowing whether or not the sources I'm using is appreciate for the Wikipedia format. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to use them as they seem to have reliable information in them, but I don't know if I should be. I just wanted to check with a professional with this situation before continuing my research. Thank you. --AshyCatInc. (talk) 00:34, 4 April 2021 (UTC)Jalin S. Lewis

(talk page watcher) AshyCatInc. hi, I'm Mathglot. As a general rule, Wikipedia requires what we call "reliable sources". You can read more about this, at WP:Identifying reliable sources. I hope this helps you.
In addition, it might help Ian help you, if he has a clearer idea which piece of writing you are talking about. I see the following pieces of yours, in your user subpages:
When you are talking about the "sources I'm using" for your project, which of these are you referring to? Mathglot (talk) 19:32, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Adding missed ping: @AshyCatInc.:. Mathglot (talk) 19:40, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Mathglot, great advice. In addition, AshyCatInc., you should look for the best sources you have access to. For a project like this, you should always look for scholarly sources first - peer reviewed articles, scholarly books. These kinds of things. You should have access to a lot of excellent resources through your university library's website. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:39, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from User Abby Tribe (talk)

hello I cannot find where I move my article out of sandbox and into an article form. please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by AbbyTribe2 (talkcontribs)

Responded on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:09, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from TaliaSnow5 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with inserting a citation for the adding citations module.



--TaliaSnow5 (talk) 18:13, 5 April 2021 (UTC)Natalia

Need help request from Xinlian Xu (talk)

Hello.

I need help with my sandbox. I have added a section for the article I am editing. It works after I click "publish" on sandbox or I need to edit on the main article?



--Xinlian Xu (talk) 02:02, 6 April 2021 (UTC) Xinlian Xu

@Xinlian Xu: "Publish" saves your changes to the page you're working on - in this case, your sandbox. To update the main article, you need to edit it separately. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:34, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from DaughterofAse (talk)

Hello.

I need help with...knowning how to get into my sandbox



--DaughterofAse (talk) 14:36, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

DaughterofAse, this training module is meant to help orient you and keep track of your work. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:35, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

History First Wave

She introduced this new form of therapy in the 1940s this was when hospitals were crowded due to casualties of World War II and just before the introduction of psychotropic drugs, she comes in at the perfect time because the medical profession was open to new methods to help treat patients. (written by Sukari W) (source: The Life and Work of Marian Chace (1993). Sandel. S, Chaiklin, S. and Lohn, A) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suforschool (talkcontribs)

Hi Suforschool, did you intend to post this here? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:36, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from JKatavi17 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with... how to edit on Wikipedia


--JKatavi17 (talk) 00:33, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

JKatavi17, I'm happy to help. What is particular are you having problems with? I think you should go through the process of assigning yourself an article on the Dashboard and going through the steps on drafting in your sandbox. If you run into problems, you can point me to your sandbox, so I'll be able to see what's going on. If you draft your work off Wikipedia, I can't be much help. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:10, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Isagreen (talk)

Hello Ian, My group has tried to move our article, Draft:Capitalocene, to the article space but it keeps blocking us. I was wondering if you could help us make this move? I believe it might have something to do with the redirect for "capitalocene" on the anthropocene article.

Thanks! Isagreen (talk) 17:08, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Crystaltsai97 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with article selection. i have written my options down and critiqued them and posted relevant sources, but am unsure if i have done it correctly. i will post an example below:

Option 1 Article title: Pity China's 'bare branches': unmarried men stuck between tradition and capitalism Article Evaluation: I view this article as an introductory article to the topic/ subject of Bare Branches. Although it seems to have been written by someone of Chinese descent, the article has been composed in a neutral tone. This article explores multiple reasons for the surplus of Chinese men including the creation of the one-child policy, and the availability of 'gender-selective abortion'. It also brings about the worries of the Chinese state, in regards to the excess of men, and its reactions to such worries. Something I had never read before was the idea that large amounts of single men can lead to threats in public security and social stability. Sources: https://theconversation.com/pity-chinas-bare-branches-unmarried-men-stuck-between-tradition-and-capitalism-68592 http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/epaper/2016-03/07/content_23769165.htm https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1081602X.2011.640544

-- As you can tell i probably dont look like i know what is going on hahaha. if you could help me get a grasp on the formatting i would very much appreciate it. also, i am not sure where to find the sandbox draft area...

thank you soooo much!Crystaltsai97 (talk) 13:16, 8 April 2021 (UTC)


--Crystaltsai97 (talk) 13:16, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

@Crystaltsai97: I think this probably should have gone to your instructor, not to me. I can provide your with help related to editing Wikipedia, but I don't have much to add here. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:43, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Question

Hi Ian! I have a question about references. From what I've read about Wikipedia,IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, and any other critic review are not reliable sources and should not be included as references, but can be used as external references. In my edits on the Carriers 2009 film wikipedia page, I was able to find entirely new resources to reference on the page. There were reference numbers cited throughout the page that was from the previous references. I was working on them to align with the new references. However, another user came by and deleted and replaced my work with the original references. How do I know my work is in/correct? They deleted almost ALL of my work in every section. The plot I had improved was completely changed, and I am confident it was concise, readable, and appropriate. What can I do when someone feels their work supersedes all other contributions and is unwilling to allow improvements that others provide? MarissaPAlit (talk) 17:18, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:05, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Emily313 (talk)

Hello.

I'm very confused with this project. I thought I was doing the right thing, but looking back it seems like I have been doing to wrong. I'm not sure what to add or what to do. My subject is animation.



--Emily313 (talk) 02:40, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Emily313, I'm guessing the animation article is too well-developed to be a good article to work on. Find something that's not well developed - maybe within Category:Animation or one of its many subcategories. Top-level articles are rarely good candidates to work on. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:14, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from MinnieWinnie99 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with editing my sandbox. It is not letting me edit or access my sandbox



--MinnieWinnie99 (talk) 18:53, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

MinnieWinnie99, what happens when you try to edit? Are you getting a message saying the page doesn't exist? That's to be expected if you haven't created the page yet. Or is it something else? I need some more details. Thanks. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:59, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ian, all I needed to do was edit in the sandbox and the message box that was popping up disappeared.

(non Ian) @MinnieWinnie99: what kind of message box? Also please remember to sign your post by inserting ~~~~ at the end of it. Asartea Talk | Contribs 19:07, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey, Ian !

Thank you for taking the time to read my message. The reason I contact you is that I want to create an infobox for a book. I want to add the cover of the book as an image to display for visual purposes. I was wondering if you could help me out. I am not aware if I can upload the picture myself and I do not know if it would be okay for me to upload it. I am planning on adding the cover of the book titled: A Child Called "It", by Dave Pelzer. Thank you for reading my message.

Sincerely, BenignoNBenignoN (talk) 19:08, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:36, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Responses

(User:Sienna). Hello! I am learning how to make proper responses. Let me know how I do on my format! --Sdiestler (talk) 04:36, 14 April 2021 (UTC)Sienna

Hi Sdiestler. Nice to meet you. To reply you just need to type your message and sign with ~~~~. You don't need to sign otherwise. When you add a response that's not connected to the previous message you can create a new section using the "new section" button at the top of a talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:23, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
(or by inserting == Section name == but I would suggest using Ian's method) -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 14:40, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Poldriev (talk)

Hello.

I was wondering if you could look over my article in my sandbox to see if I am able to submit it for publication. I am also unsure how to submit my sandbox draft for publication so if you can help me with that too that would be great!

Thanks so much!



--Poldriev (talk) 20:37, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:22, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Changing an article- help needed

Hello,

I created an article for Atz Kilcher in my sandbox. When you search Atz Kilcher in Wiki, it takes you to Alaska: The Last Frontier, which is the Discovery Channel's TV show about him and his family. It's not about Atz himself, it's just about the TV show. How do I change this to my Atz Kilcher article and have the Alaska: The Last Frontier be its own article?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Englishmademedoit (talkcontribs) 21:25, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Englishmademedoit, this is the page you want to edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atz_Kilcher&redirect=no When you click a link that redirects, there's a little link at the top of the page that says "redirected from...". That link takes you back to the actual page.
If you do edit this page, make sure you remove the redirect (the bit with the arrow). Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:24, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

When the talk header got lost

On March 23, here. You can use the WikiBlame tool to find things like this. It is linked from the top of every History page. Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 20:13, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Mathglot, thanks! I knew the tool existed, but I've never tried it out. My workflows are seriously old school sometimes :) Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:55, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Believe me, I understand ; I'm discovering things all the time. One of my faves the last few years, is the tool that finds articles in other language Wikipedias, that don't have an analog in English. Another I discovered this year, which I think you'll really like and is related to the Blame tool, is called "Who Wrote That?". Once installed, it's much easier to use than "Blame", and if you're old-skool, you may like it better. You can use it on desktop/laptop computers (not mobile), in the Chrome or Firefox browser, with a browser extension. (I use "Who Wrote That?" with the Vivaldi browser, which accepts Chrome extensions.) It will add an entry to the left sidebar in the "Tools" section, and all you have to do on any article page is just click the link, wait a few seconds, and then the page becomes dynamic, so that when you mouse over article text, it highlights it and shows you who wrote different parts of it, and when. If you've never installed a browser extension before, it's a one-time procedure; after that, it just works. Doc page is at mw:Who Wrote That?. Mathglot (talk) 00:13, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Deleting student articles

Hello, Ian,

I've been deleting a lot of articles from students of a UC Merced course who are transferring them into the main space of the project. They all duplicate material from existing articles. For some reason, have they been told that they must transfer them from user space to Wikipedia main space by April 15, 2021? Because I just see more and more content they created being deleted in the next 9 hours.

Please advise the instructor to evaluate their work in user space and not have the students move it into the main space of the project, especially if they are copies of existing articles. It would be a shame if all of their work was deleted before it could be evaluated for the course. Liz Read! Talk! 22:00, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Liz. Originally the "move to mainspace" training material discussed how to create new pages before it explained how to expand existing articles. We changed the order of the trainings a few years ago, so the "move" part was discussed second, but somehow it seems like this year a lot of people have ended up with the misconception that they should also move their sandboxes. I wonder if it has anything to do with the new scaffolding we created for article drafting.
I'm going to send this instructor a note, but I also plan to go through all our training materials and instructions this summer to try to figure out where people get on the wrong track. I'm hoping that will mean everything runs more smoothly in the Fall. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:51, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the speedy response, Ian. I just was cringing because I saw their work getting tagged for deletion and was worried that they would panic about it not being visible for grading purposes. The tagging was valid though, these pages were not in good shape, in this case they were duplicating existing articles and there was nothing on them that indicated that it was part of the coursework for a class. But it was primarily students from this one course so I wonder if the instructor gave unclear instructions.
Just as an aside, if these students actually want to publish their articles, and they aren't just concerned with their grade, they should submit their drafts/sandbox work to WP:AFC. Maybe that could be mentioned in the training materials if it isn't already. Thanks for the work Wiki Ed do, I had no idea how many classes there are that are utilizing Wikipedia until I went over to the Wiki Ed site. Liz Read! Talk! 03:53, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Question about an article!

Hi Ian, I have taken on the Genshin Impact article for a class assignment. I'm asking for a little guidance, I wanted to add a character section in the article giving names and brief descriptions and backstory, do you think that would be useful? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlahnaDickson (talkcontribs)

@AlahnaDickson: I'd say probably not. The article is currently a Good Article nominee, but there's a failed review from a few months ago here: Talk:Genshin Impact/GA1. Also given that NightFire19 has nominated it as a Good Article, I strongly encourage you to coordinate any changes you want to make to the article with them, and to discuss the things the article needs on its talk page.
Given how well developed that article is, I would really recommend working on something else. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:19, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from WillKBeatty (talk) 20:21, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello.

I need help with...

Formatting and revising an in-progress article, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WillKBeatty/America_3000 — Preceding unsigned comment added by WillKBeatty (talkcontribs)

@WillKBeatty: - the advice that jmcgnh gave you on your talk page is great. I would follow their advice. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:45, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

New message from Narutolovehinata5

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Did you know § Requiring the use of the Note WikiEd template for nominations by WikiEd editors?. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:35, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Eric.collazo94 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with... Seeing if I cited the article the right way.



--Eric.collazo94 (talk) 00:47, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Eric.collazo94, It looks ok to me. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:02, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Changing article titile

Hi, I need to change the title of my wiki article because I changed my topic, but I don't see a way to do this in my sandbox. How can I change the title? Lychee99 (talk) 04:25, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Lychee99

Lychee99, use the "My Articles" section on the Dashboard to first remove the article you assigned yourself, and then assign yourself a new one. If you don't see the "My Articles" section check to make sure you are logged in. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:01, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Maybe you can help

I asked Sage but he seems inactive: User_talk:Sage_(Wiki_Ed)#Education_dashboard_vs_Wikipedia:Dashboard. Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:40, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Looks like he replied now. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:22, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Can't get article linking to work

Hi, I am trying to link other articles to the one that I revised but cant get it to work. Specifically I am trying to link the perennial grain page I worked on through the perennial plant page under "list of perennials", "herbs", "grains" but when I try to link it is says the perennial grain page doesn't exist. Cat&Donkey (talk) 16:19, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

@Cat&Donkey: Hey there, I fixed your link here. The reason it wasn't working is because article titles in links are case sensitive after the first letter. The article is "Perennial grain" with a lowercase "g", not a capital G. bibliomaniac15 17:53, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Message

Hello Ian, I'm actually not a student in Emily Nodine's (Epssjj) WikiEdu class "Spring, Swamps, and Sinkholes." She added me as a student because I'm a librarian at Rollins with her who had some questions about her experience with the WikiEdu Dashboard and teaching; I'm hoping to learn more about it and help other faculty at Rollins use it in the future. I'm writing you because I'm actually aware of another project at Rollins through the Sociology department wherein Sociology students will be adding new articles using the New Article Wizard about civil rights activists that they've been researching all semester. In the past with a project like this, I've been told they have not been able to actually have their new articles added to Wikipedia, even though they do go through a training process and following all the standard rules. Is there a way for me to work with you so that their usernames can be recognized as trusted contributors, so their contributions can actually go on Wikipedia? They are doing good research with secondary and primary sources and I think it would be really helpful for online readers to have access to their new articles. Let me know if you can help me and feel free to email me directly if need be - rwalton@rollins.edu. I do have a list of all their usernames that I can provide if that is helpful. -Rachel (Walakoff) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walakoff (talkcontribs) 14:39, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Walakoff, I'm going to reply to email. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:26, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

If this is a Wiki Ed programme then it has escaped into the wild (note the talk page peer reviews, where a group of inexpert editors are having peer review fun). You can, should you feel so inclined, track the group with all the talk page activity

If it is not a WE programme, perhaps you can capture it?

I any event an editor of your stature may be able to bring it into line with policies, please. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 16:19, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

@Timtrent: It's easy enough to figure out what school they're from, so I emailed the two instructors active this term from that school on the off chance some of their students went astray and never signed up with the Dashboard. I also left them notes asking them to ask their instructor to get in touch with Helaine. It doesn't look like any of these three students have edited recently, but I'll keep checking back on them. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:48, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. You seem able to do these things by pure instinct. It's always a shame when this material escapes because we just can't keep it unless it meets quality thresholds, and the feedback from the hurly burly of mainspace is never kind FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 19:58, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
Timtrent, I learned it from ReaderofthePack. They're the real expert. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:11, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Please reach out

To this instructor and let them know what the standard is for mainspace articles (namely sourcing and NPOV, non-essay writing.) Thanks in advance! TAXIDICAE💰 13:40, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Praxidicae, thanks for the heads up. And...huh. I don't get it, they've done this more than a few times. I'll get in touch with them right away. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Elysia marginata

Pleasantly surprised that Elysia marginata seems to have gotten the necessary attention, so no need to ping me (if you had remembered). A good outcome for all, it would seem! Best, Eddie891 Talk Work 23:31, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Eddie891, that's great! I had pretty much forgotten about it, but I had a reminder set, so it would have come back up. I've given up trying to keep track of things in my head :) Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:49, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
I had solved the issue of faulty memory with a to do list, but as that is approaching 250 entries now (not to mention the off-wiki lists), it's almost making matters worse, because I can see the sheer amount that I intend to do but don't have to time to accomplish Eddie891 Talk Work 15:47, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Eddie891, on-wiki I've been using this, which has been a huge help. For everything else, I have gone with Todoist, which works as long as I only set due dates for what's important and ignore everything else. And when I say "works", I mean it in the loosest sense. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Fair use of images

Dear Ian,

For my article Mozart Allegro in D major, my partner and I were planning to add an image of the first few measures of a score of the piece. There is a score available on imslp.org. We wanted to screenshot the first few measures and use it in the article. I was wondering if this is considered fair use? It states that the copyright is Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 and I believe that the work itself is in the public domain. Please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks, Helicopter331 (talk) 21:50, 26 April 2021 (UTC)Helicopter331

Helicopter331, I think a screenshot of the piece itself would be in the public domain, but I've asked for a second opinion here. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:00, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
So it looks like that screenshot should be appropriate to upload to Wikimedia Commons and label it as being in the public domain. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:43, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Need help possibly creating a new article

Hi Ian,

Not sure if this is how I'm supposed to ask for help because talk pages are kind of confusing to me. But regardless, I have an article I want to create for a class that I think will pass Wikipedia's notability guidelines. After doing all the training exercises for my class, I'm pretty sure I know how to edit an article, but not how to create a new one and to whom I'm supposed to submit my notability requirements. Any help would be great.

Thanks Dcorso1 (talk) 22:40, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Dcorso1, you don't need to submit them to anyone. There's no editorial board. Just go through the steps on the Dashboard to create your draft. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 12:38, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Potentially conflicting WikiEdu assignments?

Hi, Ian! I've only had one taker this year to do a WikiEdu assignment. The student is "Untitled"404, and he's been working on the article Boom bap. You'll see here that my student put a notice on the talk page that he'd be editing the article between 2 April and 15 May. However, it looks like a student from another university, Teddybear255, didn't see that notice and added their own notice here.

What's best practice here? I'd hate for these two students to duplicate one another's efforts or, worse, get into an editing war over the same article for two different classes. Should we encourage Teddybear255 to choose a different topic? Should I reach out to the other professor? Or reach out to both students and ask them to divvy up editing responsibilities? Thanks for your attention. Abukun (talk) 17:16, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Abukun, I think the best way forward would be to ask the two students to collaborate. It would be good to contact the student's instructor, but despite what they say in that template, they don't actually appear to be in a course supported to Wiki Education. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:17, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Looks like their instructor is Ajcwritwiki. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:31, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, Ian. I've reached out to Ajcwritwiki. Hopefully the two students will be able to collaborate. Abukun (talk) 18:17, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Ed and AfC

Hi. As an AfC reviewer I reviewed Draft:Shacha noodle. It has had two declines. I have tried to help, but the student has undone my edits, for example reinstating a section which reviews some restaurants. I am not sure whether to edit the draft directly, guide them on their talk page, or stand back and let them do their thing with the likelihood that the draft will continue to be declined. Can you advise me? Thanks. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:43, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Actually, I think I just found the answer to my own question at WP:NOTTA. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:50, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Curb Safe Charmer, Thanks for the ping and, and especially for trying to help them out. I'm going to get in touch with their instructor and ask them to talk to the student about the issues. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:54, 29 April 2021 (UTC)


Need help request from Emaitt0316 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with checking my word count.



--Emaitt0316 (talk) 18:53, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Emaitt0316, you can see an estimate of the number of words you added here. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:28, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Juant459 (talk)

--Juant459 (talk) 15:11, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello.

I need help with...



--Juant459 (talk) 15:11, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Juant459, is there something specific I can help you with? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:33, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
I can helpM. Salarilak, Future UCSF PharmD (talk) 00:55, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Daisysofia13 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with... i cant find my sandbox page where i can do my drafting and editing to where itll save for my course



--Daisysofia13 (talk) 17:37, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Daisysofia13, this training module will help you with this. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:56, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Heads up BLP notice

Thought I should notify you that I've given one of your course instructors a BLP ds notice due to their extensive editing of BLPs and adding unsourced changes, including changing their name in page moves without a source. Please get in touch with them ASAP and reiterate what was previously discussed with regard to BLPs and our general sourcing and tone requirements. Grogudicae👽 10:47, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

If I take values of data from the plot shown in http://www.astrosurf.com/luxorion/Sciences/sn1987a-neutrinos-dwg.gif and plot these values myself, would it be considered copyright violation? Astroriya (talk) 14:24, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Astroriya, the data itself isn't subject to copyright, so plotting the data yourself is always an option. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:31, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ian, thanks for reaching out to me regarding the copyright and licensing status of an image I uploaded this morning. Here's a link to the image in question and the sandbox article it is associated with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jay_C_Dunlap.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aj.ruff/sandbox

The photograph was given to my student group by Jay Dunlap himself. That being considered, how should I classify it in terms of copyright?

Thanks! Gemperlik (talk) 16:15, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Gemperlik, the copyright holder is actually the person who took the photograph, not the subject of the photo. Ideally that person could upload the image themselves to Wikimedia Commons, but if they didn't want to create an account and upload it themselves you could follow the instructions at Commons:OTRS. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Adding a new article

Ian, for our class's course assignment this week, we have to begin migrating our work from our sandboxes into the actual articles that we are editing. For my assignment, I'm creating an entirely new article. Is there a way I can publish the work I have so far because there's no existing article for me to start adding my work to?

Dcorso1 (talk) 18:20, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Dcorso1, sure, just follow the instructions in this training module. Creating a new article starts on slide 4. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:19, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Clock at 13 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with...

Uploading my article.


--Clock at 13 (talk) 04:25, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Clock at 13, It looks like you've figured it out. Let me know if there's anything else I can help you with. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:01, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Sarahkadhium (talk)

Hello.

I need help with... --Sarahkadhium (talk) 08:11, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Sarahkadhium:, it isn't clear what you need help with. You can help Ian help you, by editing this section, and explaining your question in more detail, along with a wikilink to the page or article you are asking about. If this is about your evaluation subpage, which alludes to Category:Academic disciplines, categories are not articles, and are not subject to evaluation. Did you perhaps mean the article, Academic disciplines? Please elaborate, and clarify. Mathglot (talk) 08:57, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

need help with moving the article

Hello Ian, I couldn't figure out how to move the page to main article page since it says that I have to request the move? I am trying to upload the Deaf gain article. There may be some broken redirect links but I don't know how it can be resolved. Thank you Alanakay13 (talk) 21:01, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Alanakay13, it looks like it's not ready to be moved yet. There's some good feedback for you, in the Teahouse discussion you started. See Wikipedia:Teahouse#how to change the redirect link?. Good luck, Mathglot (talk) 08:41, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Nhugnu (talk)

Hello.

I need help with the Mind Uploading philosophies --Nhugnu (talk) 04:02, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher), Nhugnu, I've responded at your Talk page. Mathglot (talk) 08:48, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Ivonneraya1998 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with... uploading to sandbox



--Ivonneraya1998 (talk) 13:06, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:24, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Need Help with Licensing and Credit for Media File

Hi Ian!

I recently uploaded a collage I made of images from an old anatomical publication currently sponsored by the Smithsonian Institution Libraries. I included the source information below:

The uploaded media file got flagged for deletion since I got some licensing information mixed up. I went ahead and submitted a request for a undeletion here.

I got some great feedback, but there was some conflicting information. I updated the licensing info to be more accurate, but I want to make sure the I am not missing any information. The image is a remixed collage image that uses images licensed under CC BY 2.0 and PD-old due to its publication year. Here is an example of one of the images already uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons that I included in my collage for reference.

I created the collage itself and highlighted some important features, so I would appreciate if you could look over the media file and see if the current version is an accurate representation of all the licensing, source, and author information. The most recent version can be found here. Thanks so much for your help!

Curtisag (talk) 15:56, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Curtisag, I think it's fine as is. Even if the current tags aren't quite right, there's enough information there for someone to add the correct tag. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:03, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Ian (Wiki Ed), thanks so much for taking a look for me!Curtisag (talk) 16:52, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Reorganized content on: Online Deliberation

Hi Ian,

I'm a student on [[1]]. You had sent me a welcome message when I first joinedl

I wanted to let you know that I made a pretty substantial update to Online deliberation. It was listed as a start-class, but I think the changes are substantial enough that it could be upgraded. What do you think? UWCLStudentSpring2021 (talk) 23:26, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

UWCLStudentSpring2021, it's hard for me to say for sure, because I don't know that much about the topic, but I'd guess it's likely to be C class by now, if not better. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:44, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy ping

Hi! I just left some feedback for one of your student editors. I hope I wasn't overstepping but I felt since I had reverted/modified all of their additions that I should probably explain a bit since they're new. The article they picked (Critical Role) has kind of become a behemoth with a bunch of subarticles. Sariel Xilo (talk) 22:58, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Sariel Xilo, thanks for leaving them feedback, I appreciate you doing that. And no, you weren't overstepping - please treat students like you would any other new editor. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:23, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Student contest

Hi, Ian. Hope you're well and staying safe. I thought I'd found another class who needed your help; they're making the usual new-editor mistakes in Machine learning in bioinformatics. As it happens, they're participating in a student contest run by WikiProject Molecular Biology/Computational Biology. The page suggests using it as a class assignment, so I thought I'd mention it to you. This particular contest's ending, but I expect they'll continue. They also cite a 2020 PLOS One article which talks about Wiki Ed, "Ten simple rules for designing learning experiences that involve enhancing computational biology Wikipedia articles". (Catchy title, eh?) Take care, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 17:30, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks BlackcurrantTea. It looks like Amkilpatrick is the organiser. It's a little outside by my purview (since our role is limited to higher ed in the US and Canada). Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:30, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
I see. I didn't know Wiki Ed had a particular area - I should have looked it up on Wikipedia! The students in question seem to be from a university (or several) in Mexico, so that would be out of your area, even if the contest weren't. (One would think that with the amount of money the WMF are taking in, they'd pass some on to Wiki Ed to expand. They keep mentioning 'the Global South'; they should do more than talk.) Thanks for explaining. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 22:57, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
BlackcurrantTea, obviously I'm happy to help if I can, but generally speaking programs outside the US and Canada are handled by local affiliates (where they exist); WP:ENB is often a good place to find support for things like that. There's a reason for the particular arrangement, but it's before my time.
On one hand, I would love to expand where we work, especially in the Global South, but even the best intentions need to navigate the reefs of neocolonialism (real or perceived). After all, when an org based in the US decides what's best for the rest of the world, that risk always exists. Even for me - I am from the Global South, but I'm based in the US, and while it might just feel like me saying "I know what's best" because I'm full of myself, it can be perceived as something worse.
That said, I'd love to try. Maybe one day WMF will decide that our model is the best one to draw in more editors from the Global South and throw money at us :D Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 23:22, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Help request from JoshGanesh

Hello, my name is Joshua Ganesh. I am enrolled in the English 1102 NET 48 class. Can you look over my article because it keeps getting taken down. The link is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Caring_for_Elders_through_Fall_Detection#cite_note-1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoshGanesh (talkcontribs) 22:50, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

@JoshGanesh: How do you mean taken down? I'm not seeing a deletion log entry for that article. -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 09:09, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
JoshGanesh the article is now at Draft:Technology Adoption towards Fall Prevention. The reason it keeps getting moved back to draft space is that it isn't ready for mainspace because the tone and structure aren't right for Wikipedia. You've written a good essay on the topic, but you haven't written an encyclopaedia entry. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:22, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

DYKs

Hi Ian: We've recently had a couple of DYKs submitted by students in the California State University, Monterey Bay/Biochemistry (Spring) course that don't meet DYK requirements. Articles must be either brand-new and more than 1500 characters, or expanded by at least 5x if they're already-existing articles, and in both cases they have to be nominated within 7 days of moving them to mainspace (or beginning of expansion). These are two nominations that were rejected on procedural grounds recently – something we'd prefer not to have to do with new editors.

Can you please have a chat with the instructors and see if you can help them to clarify what needs to be done? The DYK rules are here, in case the instructors need a refresh. I'm happy to serve as a contact point for questions or help, if you need one. Thanks! MeegsC (talk) 15:22, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks MeegsC. I try to decline obviously ineligible noms (like the Charles Drew one), but I don't always get to them quickly enough. My big project for the summer involves trying to figure out where students get the wrong idea of what to do. For example, I've noticed a lot of students moving their sandboxes to mainspace this year after they've added their improvements to an existing article which is just baffling...but the fact that several people in different courses are doing it means that there must be something in the instructions they're getting that leads that to think they should do that.
Helaine has been piloting some work sending out tips and reminders to instructors that are timed to a course's milestones. That might be a good place to build in some reminders about the requirements for DYKs. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:16, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
And another one. This one has a great article behind it, but a completely blank nom! Insert puzzled emoji face here! (I've pinged the student and their tutor. This one's from University of Sydney.) MeegsC (talk) 11:58, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
@MeegsC: We only work with classes in the US and Canada; an Australian class should be supported through their local chapter. You might check at WP:ENB to see if anyone is working with the class. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:34, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Serena Dudek

Hello Ian! I was about to review Draft:Serena Dudek. The submission contains very minor issues related to the Manual of Style, like MOS:REFPUNCT and MOS:BOLDTITLE (plus a few others). Since they are very tiny things, I can fix them easily myself but I don't know if I'm allowed since it's a part of a course. Can I edit it or should I simply leave a comment explaining the problems and how to solve them? Thanks! ~StyyxTalk? ^-^ 19:12, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Styyx, you should treat student editors are you would any other Wikipedia editors - by all means, feel free to make small fixes! Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:03, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Alrighty! Thanks. ~StyyxTalk? ^-^ 13:06, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from I-Chia Wu (talk)

Hello.

Please proofread my sandbox draft page, and the page has not error, please let me know how to move the Sandbox draft to Article page, Thank you



--I-Chia Wu (talk) 00:38, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:56, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Rainyyang (talk)

Hi! I am a university student currently working on the China PX protest article. I was wondering if you can proofread the edits I have made so far on the Wikipedia page and offer some tips on how to upgrade it to C-class? Thanks a lot! Rainyyang (talk) 23:15, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Rainyyang. It looks like you've already made the edits to the page in mainspace. As far as quality assessment goes, check out this section for details about the quality scale. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:58, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Uncommon leaders course

Hello Ian, could you check Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/University of Washington/Uncommon Leaders - Women and BIPOC in Science (Spring 2021)? All assignments in this course are BLPs, a good number of then about colleages in the same University, some of them purely promotional, sourced to primary sources, etc. Best, MarioGom (talk) 00:15, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Ian, Helaine, this is a very odd one from a class that ended nearly a month ago. The DYK nomination form was created (but not transcluded) back on March 27, while the article was still in userspace; the nominator's final edit on Wikipedia was on April 7, but another editor from the class moved the article into mainspace on May 10.

The entire final "Efforts" section consists solely of three bold external links, so if this is to run as a DYK, it would need to be deleted entirely; similarly, there's at least one subsection elsewhere that is a header without any text, something also not allowed under DYK rules. However, the article looks reasonably solid and otherwise eligible, though the hooks could be a problem: the first is not mentioned in the text, the second is a stronger statement than I find supported in the text, and the third just doesn't work: "methods are being done" is too vague (and thus problematic on the "interesting" front as well).

I guess what I'm saying is that this needs someone willing to do a bit of clean-up and shepherd it through the DYK process, including transcluding the nomination under May 10 and being willing/able to deal with any issues that might arise during the review. Are either of you willing to do this? If not, I can check at WT:DYK. Please let me know. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:41, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

BlueMoonset, I'll see about it later today. Thanks for the heads-up. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:27, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Any news, Ian? BlueMoonset (talk) 00:53, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Ian, the lack of a response has been very disappointing. A simple "no time" would have been helpful two or three weeks ago. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:01, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Radiotropic fungi

The citation given does not support the presence of fungi on "the exteriors of Low Earth orbit spacecraft". See Radiotrophic fungus talk page for more detail. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a00:23c6:5b83:8100:1da0:8303:8bfc:5840 (talk) 10:33, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure what this is about, and since you aren't logged in, I don't know what class this is connect with. Sorry about that. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:25, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
My mistake, I thought this account was an alternate name for User:Sgpete. Apparently they wrote (or worked on) the Radiotrophic fungus page. I don't have an account, this is like the third time in 25 years I've edited something in Wikipedia. Lol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a00:23c6:5b83:8100:a857:cf3b:ab11:9979 (talk) 19:28, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Feedback Request

Hi there! I have recently made a request for an assessment of the article Puppetry of the Penis on various Wikiprojects. I have been editing this article for over a month as a university assignment, adding almost 3000 words, new sections, an infobox, media and more references for verifiability. I noticed you were a very active (and helpful) editor specialising in assisting student contributors, and was wondering if you had the time if you could have a look at the article and provide me any feedback. Any general feedback would be much appreciated and possibly an assessment of the article for importance and quality. Thank you very much. Rubyredgirl (talk) 10:35, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Alkahest

Dear Ian Ramjohn, It may have come to your attention that on 3 June this year, in the normal course of following ideas around wikipedia, I made what I thought were some "improvements" to the article on Alkahest. It was only after I had done this that I realised the page was part of one of your tutorial projects for this spring, and that 5 people were associated with this page. I see that the tutorials ran only up to May so I'm hoping I have not wrecked anyone's project, and I sent a little note of apology to a User called Barelybeard to explain and have kept off that page ever since. Although I have been a Wikipedia editor since 2006 I am fairly exopedic in my social interactions and hadn't come across your projects before. Can you briefly explain to me what would be the bad effects on your project if I or anyone else from "outside" were (inadvertently) to modify a page while your tutorial was active? I have no wish to spoil anyone's party! Thanks, yours Eebahgum (talk) 14:36, 17 June 2021 (UTC)


issue moving my draft to wikipedia article

Dear John, I am a student of the above course on wiki and my user name is Tunjesh.I attempted to move my draft from sandbox to wikipedia article but it appears its not showing as a wikipedia article. can you help check? The artile is a new one - Cybersecurity Capacity Maturity Model for Nations

Hi Tunjesh - I am going to reply to your email message. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:41, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Jcander7 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with... Moving my new info into the sandbox, then moving it to my wiki article



--Jcander7 (talk) 03:11, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:48, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Jcander7 (talk)

Hello.

I need help with moving my work to sandbbox. Does it have to be done one by one? How can i move it into the main article?



--Jcander7 (talk) 17:57, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Mirella Hernandez (talk)

Hello.

I need help with the section of reference [1]. Also, I need help on how to remove the box is on top of my article about birria?



--Mirella Hernandez (talk) 21:08, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Replied on their talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:20, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Need help request from Mirella Hernandez (talk)

Hello Ian,

I already add more references and citations to birria's article, but I couldn't remove the rectangle that is on top of the article.


Thank you

Elba

@Mirella Hernandez: I removed the warning message for you. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:03, 4 August 2021 (UTC)