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Archive This is an archive of inactive discussion. Please do not edit it. If you wish to revitalize an old topic, bring it up on the active talk page.

May the Force be with you.

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Dear Hetar/archive3,

Thanks for voting on my RFA! I appreciate your faith in me, and was overwhelmed by the positive response to my RFA; for it shows that at least I'm doing something right. :) I've started working to improve myself already, and I hope that next time, things run better, and maybe, just maybe, one day we can bask on the shores of Admintopia together. Thanks and cheers, _-M o P-_ 21:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reading Terminal

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You tagged the Reading Terminal image. I added that it was GDFL. You then retagged it as PUI. It's not. I took the picture and posted it. The original picture, was from this webisite [1], and was replaced with a GDFL image. Stop being obtuse. --evrik 16:15, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's normaly policy to let images run their course on PUI. If you have relevant information, (such as what you just explained above) please add it to the discussion at WP:PUI. De-listing the image looks suspicous, and prevents others from verifying claims. --Hetar 16:26, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • While that may be true, instead of assuming good faith after I tagged it as gdfl, you went and escalated the discussion by listing it as PUI. I have also posted the image to wikicommons. --evrik 16:42, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Of course I escalated it to WP:PUI. Assuming good faith applies to other editors actions and intents. Assuming good faith does not apply to copyright status, otherwise, we could get ourselves into lots of legal trouble. Escalating the image to PUI is simply another way to to let other independent users look at it and verify its copyright status. Based on the earlier edit summaries, there was certainly a potential for copyright problems, which I was not willing to ignore. --Hetar 16:46, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So it's uncivil to list images at WP:PUI? Wow, we have quite a few RFCs that need to be filed then. --Hetar 17:15, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandal blanking

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I removed unsourced unverifiable information from the William Freund article. Please send me the URL of some reputable news source which verifies that the information in that paragraph is true. Perl 19:44, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you were removing information because it was unsourced, thats fine. However, your edit summary said you were removing "actionable" content, whatever that means. --Hetar 20:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding review.

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Thank you for responding to my interest in statistical validity of online polling. I wish to ask that you consider my previous post, if you will.

I believe that based upon your response, other members have deleted the NPOV flag from the article, and changed the text of the article without comment.

My interest in discussing matters of online sampling statistics is shared perhaps in another branch of the Wiki organization, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_survey.

I belive that I am just proposing a discussion congruent with the mathematical approach.

However, if others wish to keep the board as it is, I will bow to their desire. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SteveatWork (talkcontribs) .

zarar khan

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You beat me to the stub tag! :) Turnstep 23:40, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Photo Copyright tag for 7th Cavalry Drum and Bugle Corps Article

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Hetar, In regards to the [7th Cavalry Drum and Bugle Corps] article you reviewed, I understand that I omitted a copyright tag for the photo , and therefore it was removed. I would like to get the photo put back into the article. However, after reading through the information on copyright, and following various links to different explanations, I an unable to figure out how to tag it. I will explain the situation and I hope you can suggest the proper tag and how I can apply it.

The 7th Cav DBC has been active in our community since 1929. Over the years many thousands of photographs have been taken of Corps, both candid and posed. I do not know of any copyright that has been claimed by any photographer or by the 7th Cav DBC on any of the photos. It may not even be possible to identify the actual photographers of most of the photos, and even the year is sometimes difficult to ascertain. In any case, the photo I used in the article was one of several which the Corps has been using in promotions for years without credits of any kind. As a member of the 7th Cavalry Drum and Bugle Corps, I used the same photo on the official website, of which I am creator and webmaster.

With this information, can you direct me or suggest what form of tag I should use when posting the photo back into the Wikipedia article? Any help will be appreciated. David Mentalavenger 15:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unverified image?

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Howdy! I noticed you removed [Image:CoitTowerII.jpg] from the 49-Mile Scenic Drive and Coit Tower articles as being unverified. What does that mean exactly? Do you mean the source is unverified or the structure? Thanks! Schmiteye 16:25, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I just looked at the source page and see that the copyright is in doubt. This is a confusing issue for me. I can never tell which images are safe to use unless I took the picture myself. Schmiteye 16:30, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ZipmicSimon

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Hi Hetar

I didn't put a copyright information on, because i am the maker of it :). I was unsure what copyright i had to use then ;S

sincely

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MO Maps

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These are the same maps being used for all the other cities (see the one for Springfield, Missouri. I didn't create that one, and its as general as any of mine. These are the same generic ones used for every other state as well. I think Springfield is the original one, but I don't remember.Rt66lt 04:55, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PADRES

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Thanks for your vigilance. I'd be glad to provide my references and a defense for the PADRES as the title. But I have to run at the moment. Can I get back to you later on this evening?--Rockero 23:11, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but again, the article itself states that PADRES is an acronym. Page titles should not be acronyms. Acronyms should be redirects, as this one now is. Try typing in PADRES into your search box and hitting Go. See? Also, please add your references to the article, they are greatly needed. --Hetar 23:13, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I will! All I'm asking for is a little bit of time. And thanks, but I know how redirects work. 8)--Rockero 23:15, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I used the dissertation as my source, but the author has since written a book on the subject, published last year by UTA press (ISBN 0292706448). I have not seen PADRES written about in many other places, but if you would care to help expand the article, I may know where to direct you.
In case you couldn't tell, I am not finished with the article. It had been sitting in my sandbox for a while and I thought it a shame that no one else could work on it while I was busy with other things, so I thought I'd publish it to Wikipedia today. I had no idea the community would be so doubtful as to the veracity of its content. I have never been doubted like that before. Perhaps you mistook me for a new user? On that note, are you certain {{notverified}} was the best tag to use? Is the thought of a Chicano priest's organization that outlandish? According to Template:Not verified, the template is to be used "after a good faith attempt to verify information." Some wikipedians might take offense at your placing of not verified tags without making the aforementioned "good faith attempt". You may consider using {{Unreferenced}}, instead, to remind those careless (or lazy, as I was today) editors to cite their sources.
Finally, on the title. I know that acronyms are generally not preferred for article titles, but I titled the article so for a reason. For one, there is the English title convention. Secondly, there is a common names convention (taking note that PADRES is easily differentiated from Padres). Thirdly, PADRES is actually more of an apronym than an acronym, and thus is descriptive of the organization itself. Now, we can discuss the titling issue, and there is plenty to discuss, but you ought to propose name changes on talkpage before executing them. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, and we use consensus to decide many things. Some editors might not be so understanding about such unilateral action.
Thanks again for your suggestions as to how to improve the article.--Rockero 07:14, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly didn't think the name change would be so "controversial." It seemed like a common sense move from an acronym, to the page's complete name. I do these types of moves on new articles all the time and haven't had a problem yet. I suppose your welcome to undo the move, though it is probable that another editor will come along and move it back. As for the not verified tag - it had nothing to do with me doubting the veracity of your content, it only had to do with the lack of sources present. Because Wikipedia is a secondary or tertiary source, we are only as reliable as our sources. If we don't site these in our articles, we might as well be called Jimbo's Big Bucket of Trivia. --Hetar 16:48, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Still, consider using {{Unreferenced}}. And on the naming, under most circumstances, I would agree with you, but this is a special case. Gracias,--Rockero 18:18, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

7th Cavalry Drum and Bugle Corps Photo tag

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Hetar, Regarding the 7th Cavalry Drum and Bugle Corps article, I used the Gnu tag for photo credit, but it leaves a rather large Gnu dialog box at the top of the article. Is there any other appropriate tag that can be used that has the dialog box hidden, or is there a way to hide the Gnu box (to be called up with a mouse-over, for instance)? David Mentalavenger 23:38, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, that tag only needs to be on the image page, not on the article page - so it looks like your all good to go. I went ahead and removed it from the article. Thanks and happy editing! --Hetar 23:44, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

tags

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Is it more appropriate to place the expansion tag on talk pages? -- Jon Talk | Message.

In my opinion, yes. As it's a message that is intended for editors, it should be on the talk page. For more info on this debate, check out Wikipedia:Template locations. --Hetar 01:54, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyrights of Pictures of Public Places

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Hey there, this is Iamnotgeorge. I recieved a message from you about my upload of a picture of the Cave of Hira in Saudi Arabia. All of the pictures I have uploaded in the past were of art that was well over 100 years old, so this problem never came up before. Is a picture copyrighted if it is of a public place (in this case, a monument from the 7th century)? I have seen this image on many websites, and I can't find any source of it, or the photographer who took it. Just to be on the safe side, I have removed the picture, but if there is a way to use it, I would like to put it back. What should I do? Thanks for letting me know, and have a good day.

Pictures of public places are indeed copyrighted. Anything posted on any website is automatically assumed to be copyrighted, so we can't use this image unless we have a specific source that clarifies what license it was released under. Thanks for the quick response. --Hetar 20:00, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Hetar. Thanks for the help at my user page re the above. This is just to point out my longer reply there, in case it might be of any interest to you. Picapica 21:01, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Btw, <pedantry alert> ~~~~ are "tildes", not "tildas" </pedantry alert> :-)

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This is a typical example of many images in science. The images are automatically generated from data held in the Protein data Bank (data are effectively Open). The images are automatically generated for all data by a computer program. So it is almost certainly intended to be open, but there is no explicit copyright. I suppose I should email, but it would be nice to have a blanket agreement for all such images as there will be a lot that people are interested in. Petermr 23:01, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it would probably be best to email and find out what the images are licensed under. --Hetar 02:12, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dude

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Don't delete my comments, you sent me test1 then test3 but skipped test2 68.215.134.103 04:21, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I sent you test2 and then test4. Vandalism templates don't have to be given in a certain order, and since you were clearly escalating the vandalism, I skipped test3. --Hetar 04:23, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry if you've mistaken my addition for vandalism. I was merely adding a boarding school that the original user omitted. The Hill School is cited on page 47 of Lisa Birnbach's Handbook. As that list claims to be a list of all the boarding schools cited in the text, it was a mistake to omit The Hill. Please don't edit it out again. Thanks. - J.Churchill (email removed to prevent spam) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.161.105.71 (talkcontribs) .

stop deleting!!!

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Why can't I create a page about a local legend? I'm trying to add to the encyclopedia it doesn't help if you delete my contributions. Bob gets angry when he is disrespected-you won't like him when he is angry. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bobisfromafrica (talkcontribs) .

I can't delete pages, so I'm not sure what you are referring to.... --Hetar 22:29, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and as to why you couldn't create a page about a local legend, that is because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a free web host. We have many rules dictating what content we cover. I would suggest reading WP:BIO, WP:V, and WP:RS. --Hetar 22:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

your deletions

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Please revert your deletions. The woodcuts and lithographs are primarily from the 1830s please create the tags you want them to have. Deletions are easy it takes time and effort to illustrate esoteric articles that are 150+years old. The pictures have dates and captions in them as well. Did you look at them or just delete because they are not tagged in the manner you desire? —over 100yr is legal use esp. as the resolution is not that high. Also, battle diagrams contribute greatly to an article on that mêlée. Additionally, the stubs you removed: wikify? I think you should have left them as the article is already sparse. People of Denmark are more likely to contribute if there is a stub “sticking out”. How about fleshing out the article not shrinking it.

Let’s allow others the possible benefit of learning history [unabridged?] Avé 23:00, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read the comment just above this? I can't delete stuff. Which also means, I can't undelete stuff. I do a lot of image tagging, so I assume that is what you are referring to. Please realize that Wikipedia must respect copyright laws, in an effort to do so, images must have several things.
  1. A clear source: ie where did you get the picture from? did you scan it? did you take it? what website did you copy it from?
  2. A copyright tag, from WP:IT.

Without these two things, images will be tagged for speedy deletion and be removed from Wikipedia by an administrator (ie not me). With regard to the stubs, I assume you are referring to an article that had around 6 stubs. An article does not need 6 different stubs, try picking the most relevant ones, and weeding the other ones out. --Hetar 01:04, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hey man u dont have to be rude. what makes u better than me

editing of Los Angeles Mission College Page

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hello Hetar,

I am prof. David Jordan, Chair of Professional Development, member of the Tech Committee, and Chair of Distance Education at Mission College. I am just getting the hang of editing in wikipedia. I do have some wikis at http://abogado.pbwiki.com

I do have authorization from Mission to start editing their page. I received a message from you that I viiolated copright and so I am re-writing the Mission College page. could you look at the temporary page and see if I am doing it right.

thanks. you can contact me at abogado@pacbell.net

I will check for a response from you also at this page.

thanks so much for taking the time.

-- David Jordan, Esq. - Attorney at Law - Director Los Angeles Mission College Paralegal Studies Program 13356 Eldridge Ave, Sylmar, Ca 91342-3200 cell phone - 818-415-2015, school - 818-364-7720 fax - 1-866-371-5519 paralegal program webpage - http://lamission.edu/law Chair of Staff Development - http://lamission.edu/staffdev Chair of DDL - http://lamission.edu/ddl "desktop dave" - desktop training series - http://profj.us/desktop

end of article Abogado 15:53, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reverting the anonymous edit. The relevance of the version of the name that was under an attack is explained at talk and I summarized it again at the bottom. Thanks again, --Irpen 21:27, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, it is more than likely Yakudza, which is pretty sad. Anyways, please be careful of the 3RR as all sides will be treated equally if it gets reported. --Hetar 21:30, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No, 134 is not Yakudza. I know exactly who he is and these are two different people for sure, unless there is a personality split. But thanks anyway and you are welcome to add to the discussion at talk. --Irpen 21:33, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, my opponent finally bothered to talk. Very well. Please don't revert then to my version. Let's see what the discussion will end up with. I will continue this at the article's talk. --Irpen 21:55, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yakudza is correct, as Petro Mohyla (Peter Mogila) has never been known under "Pyotr" name. Hetar, it's not clear why you reverted it. KPbIC 21:54, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Because it seemed to be an obvioius attempt by Yakudza to circumvent the 3RR - thats why. --Hetar 21:56, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I keep asking KRYS to avoid editing logged out which he does on purpose. This is the main reason why I keep teliing him about that. He so far is often dismissive of this requests as he often keeps editing not logged in. Anyway, the talk page started to roll. We'll settle it there. Thanks for your interest and you are welcome to join the discussion if you have anything to say on the issue itself. If not, no problem. Regards, --Irpen 21:59, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]


From what I can gather, the article on Mushroommush is about a player's character, not an actual character in the game. I suggest a speedy delete rather than a redirect. If you agree, I'll do the work to change it, if you prefer. --Bayyoc 02:36, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

By all means, if its just about a player's character, lets nuke it. --Hetar 02:56, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Saint of 9/11

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Thanks for fixing the Saint of 9/11 info that was posted from me yesterday night. I apreciate that. Thanks again! ~~Ruben Perez~~

JersyJoe.jpg

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What am I supposed to do here? MrBlondNYC 20:32, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You need to read Wikipedia:Fair use and provide a detailed explanation for why the image qualifies as fair use. Incidentally, I believe this image is a clear case of an image that does not qualify for fair use, per item #5 from that page, "A photo from a press agency (e.g. Reuters, AP), not so famous as to be iconic, to illustrate an article on the subject of the photo. If photos are themselves newsworthy (e.g. Muhammad cartoons), low resolution versions of the photos may be fair use in related articles." A geocities source is also rather problematic for copyright verification purposes, as it is quite possible that the site is infringing on coypright as well. --Hetar 20:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll remove it then. Save you the trouble. MrBlondNYC 06:32, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moonflow 1.jpg

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Added licensing info Renmiri 10:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you from tOkKa

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Thanks,Hetar !! Your kind and non-confrontational intervention was cool and to the point in regards to the imagery i added to the Killer Klowns and potential copyright worries. I will add some new images and give sources to make it much clearer where they came from. I am sorry i failed to do this the first time. I am still adapting to Wikis and I am not always able to be here so i can practice and learn as often as i should. Thanks again for helping me to learn !! ~tOkKa .

TOkKa 01:00, 17 May 2006 (UTC) --- !! ---[reply]

Not a problem, let me know if I can ever be of any help to you in the future. --Hetar

Killler Klown figure Images have been replaced.

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Hey,Hetar !!

I replaced the Killer Klown toy figure images. I edited and optimized for swift download. The Toy company's standard press photo is the first image(they release this on their own sales page on the comapny website, as well as share this for distribution in magazines,trade publications, other sales websites;things like that). The second I created myself from my own collection. If there is still discrepancy let me know. I do think my formatting is a little off. I prolly should check out the help section and tutourials. The figures part of the page looks funny to me. Again thanks alot. Stuff like this is the only way i'll learn Wiki's properly. Hopefully I'll become the master you are one day. 8D .. ~tOkKa

[[User:tOkKa|tOkKa]] 01:52, 17 May 2006 (UTC) -- --[reply]

Image:Shivaffx800.jpg

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Hi! I changed the image with one I had scanned from my own book, and changed the licensing accordingly. It should be allright now Renmiri 17:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User Page Changes

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Per the numerous comments regarding potential proselytization on my user page, I have decided to remove entirely the section regarding the steps in my conversion to Islam. I welcome additional comments on what you believe may be construed as proselytization. Thanks in advance. joturner 23:03, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of image of Roger Iddison

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So then what do I need to do re:copyright. Roger was my great grandfather's uncle and the image you removed was from the Illustrated Sporting News in the late 1800's - now well out of copyright. So what do I need to do to get it included.

Dave62.49.62.194 18:31, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When you upload the image again you need to (1) clearly state the source (magazine name, issue #, exact date, and page would be extremely helpful) (2) apply the appropriate image tag from WP:IT, in this case {{PD-US}} is probably what you want. --Hetar 18:52, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hetar, i would like to ask for what in particular i could do to edit my page and safely retain the information i published for "Angelo colmenero", i would greatly enjoy keeping the article up on this great website. Thusly, i wouldn't be able to thank you enough if you help me in keepin' this page Jedi nerd111 02:03, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would deeply appreciate your feedback, in that i would like to keep the article i posted up

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Sorry about this, I stupidly forgot to give my last comment a heading and thusly would like for you to read this one (if you already haven't to the other one). Hetar i would deeply appreciate it, if i were to keep the article i posted up ("Angelo colmenero"), through this article, while available to the public, would serve as a short brief informational article on me (Angelo Colmenero), if there is any revision suggested so that i may keep my article please contact me, so that i can quickly edit the page, all in all, i would hope that i can continue using wikipedia to review and post information to the public (which from now on, if my "Angelo colmenero" article stays will be about mainstream issues), please consider this and help me out Jedi nerd111 02:12, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can't you?

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You reported me for vandalism. I just had no idea what to put, so can't you, yourself just type something to start out from, like "Hello!" and delete it once you have visitors? Profile: Scotty jasper2000 01:12, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. Wikipedia is not a playgrouond. If you would like to do experiments, or tests, please use the sandbox. --Hetar 01:43, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
What? It is my own space. Scotty jasper2000 19:42, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome to do pretty much whatever you want with User:Scotty jasper2000 and its subpages (within reason). Of course, the vandalism I reported you for was not for edits made to this page, but for edits made in the article space. These articles are not your own space, and indeed, Wikipedia is a not a free web host. --Hetar 19:45, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RUC-FALLS-ROAD.jpg

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Hello, I'm not sure what the dispute is on this image. Nor do I know what "PUI" is meant to refer to. Can you explain what the problem is? Thanks Fluffy999 02:41, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, the problem with this image is that it does not qualify for fair use. Example #5 of what is not considered fair use matches this particular case exactly, "A photo from a press agency (e.g. Reuters, AP), not so famous as to be iconic, to illustrate an article on the subject of the photo. If photos are themselves newsworthy (e.g. Muhammad cartoons), low resolution versions of the photos may be fair use in related articles." --Hetar 02:56, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Can you perhaps set out your reasoning on a point by point basis for rejecting it on those counts at the 'Possibly unfree images page'? Still unsure what youre reasoning is. Thanks again. Fluffy999 04:05, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Saw your comment reiterating the above in response to my query. Still dont understand your reasoning,but will see if I can find another image in the meantime. Bye! Fluffy999 04:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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i own the copyright on the irishtoothache.com logo, so you shouldn't delete it. I'm new to wikipedia, so please let me know if i'm going about the wrong way of letting you know that it should stay.

If you own the copyright to it, and want it to stay, then you should release it under an appropriate license for Wikipedia. I would suggest adding {{GFDL}} or {{norightsreserved}} to the image page if you want it to stay. Also, I just noticed that your article has been deleted, so I'm not sure there is much point in having the image around anyway. --Hetar 04:18, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah the article was deleted, i'm not too happy about that.

Photo Nomination

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I appreciate your nominating my photo of Mont St. Michel for Wikipedia Featured Photo section. I have only uploaded 4 photos from trips in the past until now, but I will be sure to throw more out there due to this encouragement!

USS JFK

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THANK YOU. You're the man. Living Large 06:26, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DG800.jpg

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I have loaded this image yet again. I have yet again tagged it with its copyright status and yet again stated the fact that I have got specific permission from the copyright holder. Is there some way to prevent this being a regular event? JMcC 07:22, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for troubling you. I thought the tag was added automatically if the corrected copyright status was chosen when the image was reloaded. I have now added the apppropriate tag manually. JMcC 11:21, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting vandalism on my user page

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You are quick. Thanks! --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 05:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again. You barely beat me to it :p --06:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Lol, its just so much fun! --Hetar 06:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hay mate Im still working on this article as per request from the Dinoteam. Thankyou Enlil Ninlil 07:07, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Social Choice and Individual Values

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Thx for the redirect and reviewing suggestions, Hetar. Thomasmeeks 07:45, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Platypus

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I have added the page to my watchlist to see what happens next.-- Kim van der Linde at venus 16:30, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

25 May 2006

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This message is regarding the article Hemorrhoid. Please stop removing content and pictures from Wikipedia that people have worked hard to create. It is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. --Yourname 19:49, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the removal of that image has already been discussed on Talk:Hemorrhoid#Image and I am not the only person who thinks it should be removed. Furthermore, you seem to be going against consensus when you continue to re-insert the image into the article even after it has been removed by several different editors. And also, there is no need to wait for a vote, afterall, Wikipedia is not a democracy. --Hetar 19:52, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Hetar. I dropped a message on Yourname's talk page about the above vandalism warning where I tried to explain what exactly is vandalism. I have confidence that you and the other interested parties can come to an agreement. Yourname obviously isn't quite familiar with Wikipedia's intricacies yet, but at least s/he is communicating so hopefully an agreement can be reached. If a revert war takes place, depending on its nature, be sure to drop a message on either WP:3RR or WP:RPP. Cheers! --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 00:11, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for cleaning The Lion King

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Hi, thanks for cleaning the external links in The Lion King. I was going to clean the links myself. I appreciate your help even when I didn't ask for it. Cheers! --Starionwolf 23:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. :) You might want to keep an eye on them for awhile to make sure that they don't sneak their way back in. --Hetar 23:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Pigeontower.jpg

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Hiya, glad you like the image - feel free to Commons it! Built under the instruction of Lord Leverhulme - as in Lord Lever..... Unilever, it was a gift to the local townsfolk, along with various other "follys"! http://www.walkingbritain.co.uk/walks/walksv0/vw032a.shtml --PopUpPirate 23:27, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So called "Vandalism" unintended

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I kept the image on as you have requested. Thanks for the heads up.(UNFanatic)

Thanks

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I'm a hobby photographer I've long been a Wikipedia reader, but recently decided to contribute some photos, after noticing just how many quality articles lack photos that do them justice!

Sorry

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Hey, sorry for the re-tag on MATTHIAS LUPRI, but the reason I had given the first time didn't show up, apparently because I included a link. I just wanted to make sure someone saw the reasoning: the page was blanked by the article creator (the only one who's actually edited the article), so I take that as a user request to delete. I won't tag it again, if you think it doesn't apply. Mangojuicetalk 18:56, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, thanks for the notification and kind words. I tagged the image with {{Non-free fair use in}} upon upload, but intended to provide information on its source a bit later. Believe it or not, I've got "You have new messages" while "preview"'ing my addition :) Cmapm 20:49, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome

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I do try to take good pictures, particularly of natural phenomena. I think images are one place we just kick butt on the Britannica, and any other encyclopedia, online or off, for that matter — since anyone can contribute, we can get images of things most photographers or photo editors would have to pass up.

As you were writing your message, I just uploaded a new one to support a new article I'm creating, Newburgh Bay.

Any in particular you liked? Daniel Case 04:30, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the Newburgh Bay picture was the one I noticed while I was doing RC Patrol. Image:Neversink Reservoir.jpg and Image:Winnisook Lake.jpg were some of my favorites but there were others that were interesting too. --Hetar 04:50, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PS3 Image

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I have a question, shouldn the picture of the black PS3 controller be removed, we have a pic of the gray controller, why don't we use that one.--Jrg dnn 17:57, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Free images (those that are pd or GFDL or a simillar license) should always be used over fair use images. You'll notice that one of the criteria in all of the fair use tags is, "in the absence of free images that could serve such a purpose." Anyways, if your talking about the main image in the PS3 article, I already replaced it. Are you talking about a different one? --Hetar 18:00, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I'm talking about the picture of the black ps3 controller located at the bottom of the article, i think you should check that article again, i thing it has 2 images that qualifies as fair use and we should replace them with free images. thanks. Jrg dnn 18:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the free ps3 pic and the black ps3 pic are equivalent, the new ps3 is fatter and bigger and most of all it is black. Jrg dnn 18:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
They are obviously not equivalent in quality, but the fact is they both represent the same thing, and for legal purposes, that erodes the fair use rationale. And yes, if we have a free picture of the controller, we should use that instead of the fair use one. --Hetar 18:17, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Warcraft WikiProject

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Hello Hetar/archive3! I see you contribute greatly to Warcraft articles, how about helping us over at WikiProject Warcraft? Your contribution would be greatly appreciated. Havok (T/C/c) 15:35, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd love to help out, but not on a formal basis (I'd probably miss role-calls). If there is ever a project or something you could use help with, just drop me a note and I'll be happy to contribute. --Hetar 05:52, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I will remember that. And we might even change the rollcall rutine, I just "stole" it from the Final Fantasy WikiProject. Havok (T/C/c) 06:21, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have got permission from www.gakei.com to upload its pictures

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Hi Hetar,

I have got permission from www.gakei.com to upload his photos for the websites, therefore, I am not violating any copyrights, rules or laws of Wikipedia. If you don't believe me, you can ask the owner, Joseph Lee, at web@gakei.com. My user name will be Julian and my e-mail address is s08331@stu.island.edu.hk or waitsunchan@stu.island.edu.hk if you have any further enquiries or problems.

JulianChan 16:11, 28 May 2006 (UTC)Julian Chan[reply]

Unfortunately, you need to provide proof that you have permission to use the images. And actually, we need more than just specific permission to use the images on Wikipedia. Because we sell our content to other organizations, the images need to be licensed under the GFDL, public domain, or a simillar "free" license so that anyone can modify them. More details at Wikipedia:Boilerplate request for permission. --Hetar 05:47, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You've been impersonated!

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(User:Hetare) Neat, huh? I've blocked the vandal and protected the relevant pages. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you. --Fang Aili talk 16:52, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! Another milestone in my Wikipedia experience, hehe. Anyways, thanks for the block. :) --Hetar 16:56, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good job getting the show/hide thing to work! :) --Fang Aili talk 00:00, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wish I could take credit, and I probably would have figured it out shortly after looking at your suggestion, but Pureblade was kind enough to stop by and beat me to it. :) --Hetar 00:10, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Signature adjustment request

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Hi, I noticed you asked me to remove the image from my signature. I'm afraid I won't be removing (don't get mad!) instead I've improvised by reducing it by 4x4 pixels so it minimises the effect on text formatting. I got the idea of having an image in my sig from other people doing. New adjusted sig - --Andeh 23:33, 30 May 2006 (UTC) anyone.[reply]

Instead, why don't you suggest another image instead?
I've reconsidered and it's gone, sorry for my 2nd reply above there (can I edit it out?). I'm still adjusting to wikipedia see and still a bit new!--Andeh 23:52, 30 May 2006 (UTC) <-- no picture![reply]

mynetspot.org

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this is an article that was deleted, I was trying to see how edits work, and accidentally submitted the item. Please delete immidiately. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Orions belt (talkcontribs) 00:50, 31 May 2006.

I speedy deleted it, so don't worry about it Hetar. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 00:58, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! --Hetar 01:31, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Question

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I'm trying to add a show/hide button to the States Visited box on my user page. I'm not quite adept enough to copy it from the AfD template, but if someone is willing to help me out that would be greatly appreciated. --Hetar

You should ask Nathan. He helped me with the show/hide button. I will post this on his talk. FellowWikipedian 00:57, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Show/hide

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I'v recently seen your question on the show/hide bar. To make one, simply add and fill out the following code:

<div style="clear: both; width: 80%; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto" class="NavFrame">
<div style="background: white; color: white;" class="NavHead">'''[[INSERT TITLE HERE]]''' 
</div>
<div class="NavContent" align=left>

******PUT CONTENT HERE******

</div>
</div>

And you should get this:

--TBC (aka Tree Biting Conspiracy) 01:31, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wait... nevermind, it seems you've already figured out, sorry for the incovenience :D --TBC (aka Tree Biting Conspiracy) 01:31, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I appreciate you dropping by, another user had stopped by and made the change for me, but this will also be helpful, since I should be able to use it for my future efforts. Thanks again! --Hetar 01:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I can't see it on Countries visited. FellowWikipedian 01:45, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, since the countries box is so small at the moment I wasn't planning on implementing it there yet. Maybe at some future point when my worldwide conquests er... travels are complete. :) --Hetar 01:47, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]